The Sino-American War | Fallout 

Could you do the Greater Korean Republic/World War III from Homefront?

Khajit has wares is you have coin

Hey im not sure if the simulation from the anchorage dlc is confirmed as a definitive canon on the lore's history.

Oh templine institute. A channel for nerds

Khajiit has coin if you have wares!

That and the US government refused to share any research on Fusion technology so as to keep a monopoly on it for their military.

The thing is, you've also got to figure China's historical context into account. The US was, quite literally, getting technologies that were basically 'keys to the kingdom', and China _would never_ bow down to another power without _a lot of_ incentive (i.e., in our timeline, hooking China into the world economy). The post-Opium Wars treaties screwed China that hard. The US was willing to sell systems, _for a price_, which is something that any China not hooked into the world economy would not abide by.

@@TheTrueAdept Even in our own timeline the C C P refuses to tolerate anything that doesn't give them complete Control and Dominance, or at least the appearance of it. So the Fallout C C P would be unlikely to have simply purchased technology from the US, if they couldn't steal and replicate it they would have done everything they could to undermine and destroy it (as they do in our timeline) leading to war (as it seems to be in our time) :/

I wonder if the war couldve ended if the US was just like "wait China we made these things called fusion cells, if the whole world knows about it then we can end the resource wars!"

@@dilgrit1598 You have to remember that the Fallout series is also a parody of America. The American government in Fallout was absolutely pure evil. It conducted horrific, tortuous biological experiments on its own innocent citizens. The Nuka Cola corporation had test recipes that made people's teeth decay into nothing in a matter or hours. "My teeth feel really itchy." Pre-packaged foods were basically poison full of chemicals that would slowly kill anyone who ate it over their lifetime. Local governments and companies had no qualms with murdering people to make money. The pollution was SO RIDICULOUSLY BAD that the Earth was already destroyed decades before the bombs dropped. There was a lake near Boston that killed dozens of swimmers because it was irradiated and it was covered up by the government. American soldiers were sent to die in the war with China like cannon fodder. Vault Tec and the pre-war Enclave were the top of the American government and were the worst of the worst. Fallout has its campy, silly moments but it is also one of the darkest depictions of America in any work of fiction.

Hearts of Iron 4 has a mod called Old World Blues that takes all the post war factions if you're looking for something similar.

@@perrinbesch40 I played that, it’s really an amazing mod!

@@perrinbesch40 that sounds amazing

@@perrinbesch40 Yes, it even has submods, with Capital Wasteland and Enclave. You can restore Enclave to it's former glory and decide if you want to purge all mutants or not.

The game you're looking for exists. It's called Fallout Tactics. Fallout Tactics is turn-based but playing in "continuous turn-based" mode is as close to real-time as you can get without abandoning VATS combat completely.

The last Domino falls here

Liberty Prime makes good communists.

@@jesupcolt If by good means dead, then yes. He is a great commie creator.

@@OfficialJohnnySinsGaming, there isn't any other kind of good commie.

@@jesupcolt good one

The whole geopolitical lore of Fallout is quite realistic. The Sino American rivalry of today to the coronavirus pandemic and its effect on society, upcoming fuel crisis, automation, nuclear power, etc. Great stuff.

Eh, it'll never happen. Edit: I like how I say just four words and everyone's on my ass for it. Lol.

@@nexuslord6831 don't jinx it buddy

@@nexuslord6831 first mistake, assuming it will never happen

At least we aren’t so reliant on fossil fuels as to become cucked when they run out in this timeline…

This. We need this.

This would be euphoric

Yes!

Don't forget the tripods enemy HMS Thunderchild.

Aye... I know it'd be hard but try to do the original one rather than the fucking shit ass movies.

War does change. Now it's a war of propaganda and political battle over information and who can censor the other first.

@@funveeable DO YOU MIND? I was quoting the narration from Fallout Tactics!

shit really, I had my money on guns of the patriots quote

Meanwhile in metal gear. "War has changed."

@@funveeable That's not literal war. We have plenty real war in the world as of today, and the reasons haven't changed. Just as the Fallout intro says

Their games aren't really for me, and I don't think they deserve much praise for their many, many flaws, but I'll say this; This studio has intellectually written and nigh-prophetic lore.

F1 and F2 are both realistic and corny. The creators said that they made a lot of ridiculous stuff and added dark humor because the game would be unplayable if the game would have only "almost everyone is dead and most of survivors will fight each other and die too.

Except in Pre-war Fallout communist sympathizers would be shot dead. Then there's the Starbucks slurping socialists who post on Twitter about how horrible it is that they have to work, whining all day. Y'know, the ones that stop anything from _actually_ getting done to fix what's wrong with American capitalism, because the people who actually have half a brain get lumped in with them.

@@jakobinobles3263 You realize you folks down there have two socialists in the Whitehouse, right? The dementia patient and little miss race supremacist who'll replace him once he (inevitably) kicks the bucket. They're not working with the Twitter commies, they _are_ the Twitter commies.

@@AiluridaeAureus blame the socialists for capitalism not working. gg.

The actual quote was, "It's said war - war never changes. Men do, through the roads they walk. And this road... has reached its end." - Ulysses

In reality, both powers would back down from the nuclear weapons after one side has wiped out the others navy and air force.

@@theawesomeman9821 no, if they are losing, i bet the enemy would drag his opponents into blaze together, 'launch the nuke!!!!!'

@@theawesomeman9821 Nah, I feel like if US were to whoop China's ass Xi Jinping will just nuke the world out of pure anger. The guy gets mad over whinnie the pooh jokes, so probably would just destroy the world before seeing the great country he built defeated.

"no one knows nuclear weapon more than me, my red button is bigger and better ask gyna"👐

@@bionx9098 “The Great Country” that does what it does to Tibet and Muslims

I think we will all get back to this comment soon enough.

Ehm, covid is not a threat. How many people died from it? 2-3 Million in two years? You realise that these numbers are nothing compared to 8 Billion, right? So calling covid a "New plague" is really silly.

@@capitaldcolon1795 bruh what?

@Spawn compared it to black plague or spanish flu,2-3 million dead cannot change humankind too much,compared it to world war 1 and 2 with 18 and 60 millions death

hopefully we don't get nuked this time and we still manage to slaughter the CCP

Indeed Bitching every step of the way..

They could only wonder when that day comes, the day where they reach the end of the road.

I think you missquoted

@@luska5522 The entire quote was, "It's said war - war never changes. Men do, through the roads they walk. And this road... has reached its end." - Ulysses

@@loopslytle hell yeah i knew there was something wrong with the original post. Thanks bruh

Eerie stuff, man. Eerie stuff.

Do you think China and USA are very different in our universe? ^^

They're not so different in real life either, both are obsessed with themselves, both driven by profit above all, and both pretend to be a democracy.

@@ImperativeGames I had not said that

@@WrathOfGrapesN7 I like this summary, particularly the last part.

It feels so real, like could reach out and touch it. Oh....

Maoist Metro with propaganda of PLA soldiers fighting super mutants 🇨🇳

@@LeviathanSpeaks1469 Too bad most of these game companies are too absorbed in creating "Online experiences" which apparently gives you a license to be lazy af and not just not create anything new but also try and stop Modders from creating something

It'll never happen because anything related to China is a minefield, especially on RU-vid and Steam. The devs might include a teddy bear in the game, and the real-world chinese government will perceive it as an analogue for Winnie the Pooh, and thus an attack on Xi Jinping, and thus whip up an army to review bomb the game. This isn't a joke. Look at the South Park episode "Band in China" - the CCP is that petty.

@@alexjgilpin Winnie the pooh isn't banned in China you brainwashed ldlot

Unfortunately, China is shown to be an ocean of glowing slag from the view in Mothership Zeta, so nothing can actually survive there. We're not gonna get a game set in China for a long time, until a time skip of hundreds of years allows us to explore the glassy wastelands there.

well, Fallout 76 is trying not to break the lore. If you cut off every plot of Fallout 76, nothing will be lost.

@@exilestudios9546 fallout 76 is shit

Fuck Fallout 76. It doesn’t exist. It’s developers never existed. Anyone who says otherwise also doesn’t exist. BIG JIMMY IS WATCHING YOU

I actually like Fallout 76 as it gives us more stuff on the Old World. Like how big corporations have bought almost all of Appalachia. And how they moved using almost full automation causing worker riots paralelling with the Coal War or Bloody Harlan during 1920 in West Virginia. One thing I also like is how Appalachia wasn’t a direct target like other places we’ve seen in other games. On October 23rd people woke up had their breakfasts. Those who had a job went there and did their jobs (at least for a few hours), as communications were down they were informed of the war later which is again something I really like considering what we saw from the other games.

That’s exactly what’s happening in China too 😬😬

Nah, that:s just the BBC and other mainstream news exaggerating the fuel issue. Local news networks across Britain merely reports delivery delays and supplies are not an issue. Since the likes of the BBC wanted to remain in the EU, they make every situation bad by bullying the current PM with exaggerated news.

@@Johnlanzer "Since the likes of the BBC wanted to remain in the EU, they make every situation bad by bullying the current PM with exaggerated news" Which alternate reality are you role-playing at the moment?

@@HiringHamblin I live in the UK, and there isn't an issue of fuel shortages anywhere near me. As usual it's our media blowing things completely out of proportion.

Great Britain is just LARP-ing as a Democracy while being invaded by the freaking 7th Century. O.o

That's going to be very confusing for the poor soul who finds it

I doubt it, we don't see the Troy as fact in today's age, dispite the story being loosely rooted in fact

Or when they find a copy of metro 2033.

@@Sophie-mv7bd Digital Paleontologist: now we see here a recipe for Nuka Cola I remember reading an article about some folks burying cement cuss words. We humans are a jovial bunch, no wonder Jesus is coming back with a firey sword

@@deadskrillaskrit2078 lol

A Chinese American tax collector…my god you must look intimidating in a suit

For now......

@@ethanmcfarland8240 Yeah, it’s scary…especially for folks like I.

@@N7-WAR-HOUND I’m 5’5” bro, the only thing that would possibly intimidate people is how fast I can seize their anime figurines through the legal process of finding how much debt they have and using those figures to cover said debt…nah bro, I’m just a couch potato taking my college gap year.

Personally, I think a Sino-American war is likely, with the way China aims to expand it's economy and territory. It's directly threatening US interests. USA has to strike before China becomes the worlds superpower. If they don't, I think it's just a matter of time before China overtakes them. And mindset wise, most Americans don't really know about China, only the tyranny of CCP, communism and Xinjiang, so they will gladly kill Chinese. Meanwhile I'm sure China also has very effective anti America propaganda.

More to come!

@@TemplinInstitute Fantastic!

@@TemplinInstitutebit of an odd request but bring a furry, I’m kinda curious if you have any recommendations on videos that I and fellow furries might enjoy?

Thanks for the recommendation

Or just look at the news lol

I’ve read that book, I thought it was really good. I also a read a book about why America will remain the worlds only superpower.

@@michaelandreipalon359 war is approaching in the coming months… probably, remember that democracy is non negotiable!

@@michaelandreipalon359 Here's hoping, I could see US taking out North Korea as well because the reason, it still exists is China. Also I could see some countries released and returning to Nations like Tibet, southern mongolia returned to Mongolia, Xingjiang, and maybe Manchukuo.

@XCOM Commander no matter the cost we will push those alien bastards off our planet

Ethereal fighting ethernals 😂 in a nutshell

Doubt it. I think it will happen, I just hope we will be spared a nuclear exchange.

It’s looking less like fiction and more like reality everyday now…

It maybe inevitable however the fall may not come in centuries or it may come in decades, the choices we make are still within the realm of possibilities.

Of course it'll be kept fictional. No way we invent practical power armor before the bombs start dropping

Nah, we need a dossier on CLEM

True. That would help, because I understand jack shit of the Warframe lore to be honest.

They should do Destiny races while they are at it.

It would take an hour to cover the Grineer. I know because someone already did. It would be at least an hour each to cover the full scope of understanding these factions.

DE would like that too. but first everyones gotta decide what they are

Same thing.

Wouldn’t it be a coincidence rather than an Irony then?

Irony would be more, you were playing Fallout 3, were avoiding the Operation Anchorage DLC, but got thrust into it anyway, in spite of your efforts to stay away. This is more a coincidence or perhaps providence or serendipity. You were thinking about it, and this video just popped up at the right time like something inspired. The DLC is great, btw. The textures of the environment and tools you encounter there is beautiful and neat, and the rewards you get are pretty nice, not to mention the extra experience you can get from Operation Anchorage, if you have the Broken Steel DLC and aren't yet max level. In some regards, an big irony was what the DLC was. There you are, a descendent of war survivors, the Lone Wanderer, trying to find peace and security, away from ever present conflicts while looking for dad, and find this intact bunker that's safe from ghouls, mutants and raiders, but in the act of exploring this safe bunker, you get stuck in a simulation of one of the most brutal military campaigns, and you can't get out until you finish it, being simulated as one of the reasons the bombs fell. You didn't want to be there, canonically, but you got stuck there anyway. Really, who wants to be stuck in and live in the time and situation that resulted in the Great War, after living so long in the aftermath of that devastation caused by it? Fallout 1 and 2 kinda toy with this idea of paradoxical and simulated cause and effect, because of a strange, random discovery by the Chosen One of Fallout 2 that directly resulted in forcing the Vault Dweller of Fallout 1 to embark on the mission of that game (trying to avoid spoilers if you didn't play either of those games).

@@solarianstorm I played all of the Fallouts (even Tactics...)so yes I know about the guardian of forever Easter egg... Solar Scorcher is fun. Wish it'd make a return in some form.

Texas is moving towards more nuclear power so the future is looking bright.

@@funveeable no china said it'll plan on taking tiwain by 2025.

@@jbone9900 yeah good luck with that....china doesnt have the logistic warfare knowledge to do anything as it can be their downfall in the first seconds

@@alexandrep.-morin3897 nah I live by fort Bragg nuclear war is not in my interest to say the least.

It’s happening right now

Well there is a difference between that world and this one: there's no vaults. No Vaults, no chosen one to take down the Not-Enclave when they start purging the populace.

@@Lightscribe225 No vaults YET. I'd imagine that if nuclear war was as serious of a fear in our world as it is in fallout, the government would fund public fallout shelters. They did so at the height of the cold war. It's up in the air if they'd be used as sick twisted experiments or not.

@@theluftwaffle1 Oh they won't be public anymore - they'll be paid-for-survival vaults unless you have a critical skill for their needs.

@@dm121984 So actual vault tec. I guess those experiments are a given then.

@@Lightscribe225 no vaults you know about, I'm sure bezos and musk, hell even Warren Buffet and Ted Turner all have secret vaults.

It was WW2 style war. You can play HOI4. It also has Fallout mod, Old War Blues

It would be trash

@@thedoggo5139 couldn't be worse than fallout 76.........

@@majorplothole2620 76 isnt as bad anymore though

@@thedoggo5139 Its really good now tbh

Yeah, Pre-history seems to be more and more common in this timeline. And "Conspiracy Theories" get proven true at a rapidly increasing rate. :/ I want off this ride.

@@grayeaglej Well at least in this timeline we have the Internet. Imagine how the Internet would react to a nuclear exchange, nvm that makes it worse.

@@captain-chair Technically the Fallout timeline did have an internet. Terminals and Pip-boys had become capable of sending and receiving Emails, video files, and images just prior to the Great War, that puts them at an odd place because its less advanced than our timeline was with Home Computers (Terminals) by the 1990s but FAR more advanced than we were with early internet technology where it came to Mobile Communications, but it took them until the 2070s to get there, most likely because they didn't develop the micro transistor until the 2050s where as we had it in the 1970s. BUT, that also means that in Fallout thier technology which is more reliant on Vaccum Tube Transistors and Macro Circuits is FAR more resilient to Radiation and EMP than our Modern MicroCircuts are, which means that Fallout technology is more likely to survive the GreatWar and subsequent Wasteland than any of our Consumer or even Military equipment. There is a very good reason all American Nuclear weapons systems still use Computers and Control Systems built in the 1960s and 70s. Its just not viable to upgrade them since it would make them More susceptible to attack. O.o

@@grayeaglej That does make sense, but I assume the Internet remained a nerdy computer science thing and not widely adopted as it is in our timeline.

@@captain-chair Business and government seem to all have had it for communications, same goes for the rich. Vault-Tec as well. So it was actually fairly well established. The problem is most Consumer Grade Terminals did not survive the Great War so we have very limited information on what the Average American may have been capable of doing with off the shelf equipment. Most Pre-War Businesses, Government/Military, and Vault-Tec were using Hardened and Reinforced Equipment. And the Pip-Boys were originally developed for Military Use before being Coopted by Vault-Tec, so that equipment was able to withstand more, have longer battery life, and therefore be available to the player to show Emails, Files, memos etc 150-200 years later. O.o Also, unlike in our era, the United States and Vault-Tec went through the trouble and expense of Burying Communication and Power Lines all over the Country, particularly between Military installations and Vaults, so that even with surface lines destroyed a large portion of the "internet" system is still intact even 200 years later allowing the Pip-Boys to function and communication between Enclave remnants/eyebots, Vaults, Brother-of-Steel, etc throgh those buried land lines, and a scattering of remaining radio antennas and satellites still connected to those lines. Long Story Longer... Fallout Lore makes some working technology viable, if the Great War happened today in our world we would be set back to the Iron Age with practically zero people that know how to survive using iron age technology. :/

Any tool can be used as weapon. And truth is - the use of tool as weapons predates humanity by hundreths of milions of years... that is just way of life itself.

​@@Paerigos Tis life

It's just not fallout without power armor and super mutants though, and both of those are US exclusive..

@@DeepLyricist not necessarily, plenty of American troops were in China when the bombs dropped. You could hypothetically do a game set in China, playing as a descendent of the US troops that survived the bombs. Plenty of power armor would be left over, since they were being used to cut through the Chinese troops. You could even [and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Fallout 76 presented it as a thing] have those surviving US troops become an East Asian Brotherhood of Steel if Maxon was able to contact them like he did the soldiers in Appalachia. As for mutants, it would be a good way to introduce new enemies. You’d still have Yao Guai, Ghouls, Mirelurks, Radscorpions, Bloatflies, Bloodbugs, etc but can take advantage of more Asia-specific fauna that was corrupted by radiation. FEV can easily be present, just say that some US scientists were present experimenting on Chinese POWs or something. Long story short, you can still get a very familiar Fallout feel in an unfamiliar setting just using pieces put in place by previous titles

it is sad that interplay got bankrupted, they planned for fallout extreme wich even if bad would show china as the main villain wich means we would have a notion of what is left. now we just have fallout 3 mothership zeta as reference and from what we see it's just a hole

@@DeepLyricistyou'd make a great poster boy for bethesda

I would play Fallout: Shanghai.

Thats because those dang Europeans at CERN used thier particle accelerator to shift our world into the Fallout timeline about 70 years ahead of schedule. :/

I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that, it’s scarily similar

Fortunately, this isn't the Fallout universe.

@@grayeaglej El Psy Kongroo

@@albertjordan3249 DO NOT PUT BANANA IN MICROWAVE!! O.O YOU DOOM US ALL!!

it's not new it was definitely mentioned in fallout 3 maybe even earlier I think it is usually referred to as the blue flu or the new plague

*2053

You might have read stuff in game about blue boils and flu like symptoms in people in the games thats what they were referring to

It's not mentioned much in later games, but it was a big part of the backstory of the first Fallout game. The New Plague was bio-engineered as a weapon by the US government, but got out of the lab and led to a global pandemic in the 2050's. FEV was originally developed as a treatment for the plague, but of course, it failed and we see the results in the games. The Point Lookout DLC for Fallout 3 involves the New Plague in the region's backstory, and in fact it is implied that the New Plague is the same disease that McCready's son has in Fallout 4, as his symptoms are mentioned as being identical to those of the New Plague.

New Plague was mentioned in Fallout Bible(Dev's Q&A back when F1 and F2 were released)

Australia was always a target tbh

@@Fr0st1989 what the hell does a mutated emu look like Nightmare bird.

It's not mad if a large population center survive. It's a scorched earth policy. (still, in reality, only allied states will be attacked too in that situation, but the nuclear fallout is still global)

From what I know, in the fallout universe many more countries had nukes, unlike IRL

this, the new plague and lockdowns... seems familiar

I'd gladly be there protecting Taiwan from an incursion.

@@jakespacepiratee3740 why tho?

Thucydides Trap, when tensions rise because a rising power threatens the position of the dominant/ruling power. Happened between the French and British many times, America and British in 1812, both world wars, Cold war, and now between China and America.

That's not gonna happen. America and China's economies, along with the world economy, are too tightly entwined for there to be open war between those two superpowers. The United States is no longer the old United States of the Western Bloc, and China isn't Soviet Russia.

War was always changing getting so modern at this era after the Iraq War and Afghanistan war that military theorist know that war war is changing in our universe but theirs is perfect it never changes

Cyber warfare: hold my beer

@@Commissar_Eiven The point of the quote is that the core aspects of war never change. People suffer, countries are destroyed, and in the end it only benefits the ruling class.

@@pixel6698 s*** brother I've been playing since fallout 2 to 3 and New Vegas which is the best one you can't change my mind that's deep I never thought it like that pixel guru

Sabble Dash war Sino American war

Except the US population in Fallout never reacted like that.

and the plague

@@TornadoADV it was nonsense thrown in here by whoever wrote this video. the blue flu is WAY more dangerous than what we're dealing with anyway

Freedom isn't selfish. I'm tired of being locked in my house or wearing a mask for a disease I've already had and recovered from. People wouldn't be dying from this thing if they took care of their health anyway. The government just wants control, don't get it twisted.

@@Walter_Stroud its a video game story, who cares

We haven't built Liberty Prime, yet. Funny thought, Liberty Prime sponsored by Amazon Prime.

Theyre really not. the only real similarity is china and america disputes and nato allies having rough ties at the moment. Other than that soviet russia is still thriving in 2077 and actually on good terms with america. Irl china is starting to become the power economy of the world. Plus because of covid, businesses run by independent entrepreneurs are going extinct and corporations are replacing them. in fallout america uses sanctions to destabilize mexico inorder to have the excuse to march their troops in and take direct control of their oil. Then just so that they can have easier access to the oil pipeline running to alaska america actually annexes canada. However, oil isn't necessarily used as fuel. It gets worse. America completely solved the energy crisis on their own. They had actually developed the technology to totally harness nuclear energy as a totally endless power supply. But they deliberately didn't share it and kept the technology to theirselves. Irl, plutonium nuclear energy is levels above uranium and is starting to prop up around the world. The world in 2077 looks nothing like what we're approaching irl in 2021.

@@gpheonix1 irl china is actually coming apart. hundreds of companies are moving shop to indea, vietnam, taiwan and korea. The chinese economy is about to crash 08' style look up evergrande crisis.

@@therealmaxilist china is actually going to demographically collapse because of the 1 child policy

@@therealmaxilist interesting and especially so to see if China will let any of that happen. The thing is companies in China aren’t really independent companies. They’re all state governed in a sort of way. Basically the cop has all control over the companies, the CEOs can make business decisions. However, the cop has ultimate control and can force the whol company to do what they want it to do. This is why they say China a capitalist economy, but not exactly.

Vaul-Tec had intentions to do so- but is stated china struck first.

Lol my dude that was an underrated comment

Awesome idea!!! Would those children pick it up as cautionary tales or just for entertainment value?

Glorious indeed

It's hard to say for sure. I have the same fears, but the best thing we can do for ourselves and our own is to stick together and find solutions as the potential scenario progresses.

Those are the kinds of questions that make survivalists. I'd suggest you start reading.

Always depend of what scale (number of targets) and what type of bomb (conventionnal ICBM or cobalt bomb) would be use. Worse case scenario (full scale multinations nuclear war with over 18000 warheads, with is still not realistic since a lot of it are not ready to launch at anytime. Combined with the use of neutron/cobalts bomb. We are looking at a tomb earth scenario, alias a mass extinction event).

Luzon would be glassed first. Visayas and Mindanao due to its numerous islands would probably be left alone.

Hows your lumbago?

"Everyones favorite Uncle" - Arthur Morgan - RDR2

Until Europe and the Middle East burns in nuclear fire first...

Yep

You dropped your Ushanka, Comrade.

@@TornadoADV In fallout, people who resisted mandates to quarantine were the communist traitors. Something you wanna tell us Ivan?

@@Lightscribe225 I never said I liked the feds. Hate em.

@@sparta2705 Sounds like commie talk

The Americans lost their land long ago european settler make sure only some of them survived

Preston would like to differ

for real though that mod can go dark path something Remember Anbennar whit the Star Elve where you can casually use the ruinborn as fuel

@@aoki6332 Or the Black Crusade... That ending is just ambivalent.

Ah yes, The best mod for Hoi4 that no one talks about.

...fair...

When cooperation died...

I can only assume they mean greatest as in best not biggest.

@@RussianNikolaiDa No, I understood thats what they meant.

the united nations is a total joke. us military hegemony is what maintains world peace--for now...

Probably nuked aswell, american forces managed to invade peking (again) during the mainland campaign. China was losing hard the campaign there

That depends on how well shielded their vehicles are from initial emp and radiation as well as how good their supply lines were.

@@arevalones I think similar to the Chinese submarine in the Boston harbor I can see maybe a small American colony trying to get back home to the states. Only to come home to a new republic in the former state of California

@@yaboichangkaishek3460 that would be so weird for the poor guys.

@@arevalones or even the West coast enclave could’ve gotten in contact with U.s soldiers in mainland China during the early years in fallout

Believe or not, my positions in real-life are not pessimistic, as defeatism and discouragement just help sociopaths continue to rule, without hope. EDIT: I forgot that I must specify I do not follow nor support conspiracy theories of any sorts. I am only referring to hardline, factual, violence (notably wars) and injustice (international injustice is massively deadly). Climate change also will have an impact and is a current challenge.

Not really, but somewhat similar. We're going to run out of resources on this planet soon but we can only hope we come up with a solution instead of progressing highly dangerous weapons.

I'll happen if politicians are not calm enough