How Did the Fallout Timeline Diverge From Ours? Fallout Lore DOCUMENTARY 

This make no sense. In actual fallout technology was identical to ours, until energy crisis strike.

Not sure there's ever actually been an exact mention on transistors invention date. Even amongst the devs (Both of the originals and the bethesda games) there's a lot of debate over if they were never invented, invented at the same time but never caught on as much, were invented much later and so were only just getting going when the bombs dropped... etc.

@@Hatypus There is a space shuttle in Fallout 2 and some experimental weapons known from the 90's. So it would be safe to assume that at least until 2000, world was unaltered. The decline later was direct result of resource shortages.

@@TheRezro That's just patently incorrect, the Americans literally get the first man in space for example. And the reorganisation of the US into 13 commonwealths is in the 60s too. And more besides.

@@Hatypus Bethesda basically made up nonsense contradictory to actual Fallout Lore. There was never a alteration to our timeline (at least until 90's), beside stuff from secret labs.

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Everyone else got nuked while Yugoslavia advanced with the tech levels comparable to The Institute.

​@@Bionickpunk it's likely Yugoslavia Fell due to Radioactive "Fallout" I would say Fallout shelter was built but over time Leaders of these Fallout shelters become there own thing which over time other nationalities would form their own Nations within the Yugoslavia ultimately Leading to the alternate Yugoslav Wars considered the last Wars of World War 3 I would say Yugoslavia would fall due to raiders radical factions ultimately savages and plus Nationalist movements In new countries formed similar to how new California Republic and Caesars legion and the brotherhood of steel similar to North America Yugoslavia would probably fall to those too and remember its Fantasy Its a Game and TV Series

Everyone else is fucked while Yugoslavia is vibin Equivalent exchange is real.

@@Bionickpunk Nah, pretty sure Serbia tried to exploit other south slavs and all of them turned on them and kicked Serbia's ass. It's always Serbia that ruins any south slavic union.

@@texdillinger6173 Nah, that's just dumb western stereotypes and grossly racist of you to think of. I mean Serbs are the ones who created both Yugoslavia's, without them, Croats and Slovenese would have be assimilated by the three larger countries after WW1, not even mentioning post WW2 Yugoslavia. In the Fallout timeline, communism/socialism and the Soviet Union continued onward, which means one of Yugoslavias largest economic and political support structures never fallen and the country survived it's late 80s economic crisis. If you actually learned Yugoslavia's history, you would know that tensions started due to economic problems and the fall of the iron curtain. Despite Yugoslavia being in non-aligned movement, it was still a socialist country. The fact that Soviet Union and USA were in good relations in the Fallout timeline means that Yugoslavia had a way better political position that the lopsided unipolar state it had in the 90s. If a more disfunctional Soviet Union continued, Yugoslavia definitely did.

Our dedicated boys keep the peace in newly annexed Canada. I was so happy to see that at least one artist on the team knows his history.

Actually, Nuka-Cola was made in the 2040s.

And the Cabot Family

Ah Bethesda breaks lore like its games.

​@@Dante-mr3rz Sunset Sarsaparilla is from New Vegas, but yeah, all bethesda fault!

You gotta prove the Zetans aren't real and didn't kidnap people prior to the 1940s then.. Or did that happen in our world too. hmmm

I guess it was his son or someone who just happens to have the same name and lastname.

183 year old General: You think I am a joke?

Even shortly after WW2 you have the crashed B-52 from 1948, the collapsed bridge from 1968, and Nixon that shows that divergence is more of a ripple than a clean separation

This channel is giving me Uranium fever

​@@johndanes2294 You're only going to set the world on fire you know. 😂

It’s all over… but the Wizards and Warriors

Cringeee

Don't make me reach for my Big Iron

Fallout 1 takes place 84 years after.

Yeah I hate that aspect of Fallout. It all falls apart when you see rubble/pieces of walls lying all around inside of a bar located in "major" city 200 years after the war. Like wtf? Couldn't they picked it up and threw it away? That's like the first thing you would do if you try to set up a place to live in...

That is just bugthesda fallout. On the west coast the Ncr depending on the endings you take is reapairing trains, fielding an airforce and large groundfore, while having a gold backed currency. Thats even before fallout 4 in the timelinie.

Has no one here seen impoverished areas

@gallendugall8913, Fallout 1-2, & NV is totally different from Bethesda Fallout. Bethesda has screwed a lot of the lore up actually, yet Fallout fans (a majority now) have never played the first 2. The world was rebuilding in FO: 1,2 & NV, it's only in the Bethesda were you see the stupidity.

Foreshadowing

I mean, if you had a nickel for every time you'd still only have two nickels.

Foreshadowing

Long story short. Mexico continued, without cartels, much like our real world. Raul, voiced by Danny Trejo, details working at Petró-Chico, rodeos, and American media played over the TV and radio in Mexico. In real life, Mexico would help produce war time production and workers to American factories in the labor force vacuum created by able-bodied, military age men being drafted to war. After war, told by Raul, Mexico was no different than America with raiders and settlements happening. That and Mexico city being a massive bombed out radioactive crater.

maybe lore-wise its not widely adopted at civilian levels, just like the transistor

@@Bayofthe91st But in Fallout 4 we see civilian Fusion reactors, so it had to be being implemented at least

​@@PopeMetallicusyes but it took several decades to invent this technology and by the time the first fusion battery rolled off the production line, the existing infrastructure was deemed too costly to replace and thus fusion was implemented slowly.

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Not really. There's numerous ideas that are geopolitical stretches and geographically improbable. Canada not being 100% on board from day 1 of the invasion of Alaska? No way. China being able to successfully field troops there while the US strains logistics? No way. A counterinvasion from the GOBI DESERT!? Nuh uh. It's a serviceable enough setup when the game plots generally begin a century later, but would be baloney as a stand-alone story.

Yes, unless you can point out some similarities? The latter half of the 1900's sure wasn't familiar.

Unless you still use vacuum-tube appliances and computer, safe to say we are divergent to that universe.

There's definitely some parallels isn't their.

You can find some similarities. But still no armor battle suit or energy weapons.

Yes

At this point I have assumed they just gave up on finishing it

They probably weren't military historians.

Jet, probably.

The only real reference to the Gobi Campaign comes from the Desert Ranger Armor you acquire in New Vegas, which mentions Marine Recon units fighting there, so we don't really know what all they were doing there.

Maybe the Americans pushed the Chinese out of Korea and Manchuria and then moved into the Gobi desert. For some reason...

Yea at best all I could think is that it was a spearhead into the country only meant to put pressure on China but I dunno.

Then it's probably time for you to stop. A suggestion or request is nice, nagging is not.

For the sake of supporting your recommendation; why do you think Fraggle Rock should get a lore video?

@@richardthomas9497 Fraggle Rock is a foundational piece of contemporary fantasy and a touchstone of a generation. One could even break up history into pre- and post-Fraggle Rock; abbreviated as BFR and AFR. It is no coincidence that some of humanity's greatest agreements and achievements, for example the Paris Agreement of 2015, the passage of the US Affordable Care Act of 2010, the launch of the James Webb Telescope; have all occurred in the AFR era, as a result of the influence of Fraggle philosophy. If not for Fraggle Rock, we may never have developed CRISPR or conquered AIDS or develop biotech that churns out medical miracles that used to take generations, now taking years. Fraggle Rock is too much of an influential force to not have the lore discussed, and inspire a new generation to even greater heights.

Please give this men his video

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I'm not very well versed in Fallout lore but I'll try to give you the expIanations I can. 1. From what I remember, it was a general shortage of resources and not just oil and nuclear material. I always assumed there was also a lack or huge increase in cost of food and water but I'm not sure and the two things could be connected anyway. If you're running out of stuff to put in nuclear reactors and you can't rely on oil either, prices of everything will skyrocket. 2. Plot reasons, I guess. They thought they could do one last push and defeat China and take its resources, maybe? 3. Same as above. China didn't want to lose, I guess? The devs needed a reason for a world devastated by nuclear war and someone had to launch the nukes first.

As far as I remember the lore: 1. Not everything in Fallout universe is powered by fission. Although it was getting more and more widespread as oil was running out (the bulk of Fallout lore was written in 1990s, when the expectation of world's oil supply running out by 2020-2030s was in full swing). And if you have fission reactor in every toaster you'll need the metric shitton of Uranium, that is also was running out in Fallot universe. There were no wide spread fusion at the time of the WW3 starting... And this topic is actually a one of the main plotpoints in the new TV-series. (And obviously because lore writers needed to have a pretext for WW3 scenario) 2. Because war usually contimues untill both sides decide to end it or at least one side would have absolutely no power to continue. Initial invastion to China happened to break the almost decade-long stalemate on Ancorage front. Even after chinese evacuation from Alaska US couldn't just abandon mainland China front as without a peace (or at least cease fire) treaty it would only meant another invasion to alaska as soon as China would feel ready. (And obvoisly because lore writers needed to have a pretext for nuclear exchange scenario) 3. In the pre-series lore China hoped to strike first as swiftly, massively and decisively as they could in a gamble to "kill" US before they'd be able to retaliate (during the Fallout 2's finale, President of Enclave, recounting the history of "the Great War" mentioned that US was barely able to retaliate at the final moment). In the new TV-series it is revealed that Vault Tec was directly involved in the nuclear escalation either by launching nukes themselves or by provoking escalation by false flag operations or by any other means (And obvoisly because Fallout developers needed to have a nuklear post-apcalypse setting)

Basically if the era of Brezhnev's stagnation continued on and Gorbachev's reforms didn't push through

@rbgerald2469 they were essentially bankrupt in OTL and were dependent on financial aid mainly from Western Europe to even get by and distribute food to their citizens. Before the hardliners coup against Gorbachev, he was negotiating for a huge aid package with West Germany just to fund the USSR for a few hundred days more.

@@EarthForces ..Maybe that's how they survived, by being like the Russia of today but communist

Space!

Yeah and semiconductor chips were invented in 1958 bcs of transistor invented in 1947

Lol yeah doesn't make a y sense