Even though they can be warm and great team players one thing I noticed is that SFJ's seem to sometimes have an intolerance or at least don't understand people that do not fit within the context of social norms and groups and will often facilitate group think and fight against people that go against unspoken rules. I know your trying to paint a nice picture of them, but also talking about their potential darkside would help as well, since you talked about the potential darkside of other types.
I agree. I think because of their tendency towards routine and planning and aversion to conflict causes them to conflict with for example NTPs, who loves upsetting traditional values and arguing change and innovation into their daily lives. Though they are usually nice and warm, the SFJs I've known have been surprisingly hostile towards people trying to shake things up or challenge conventionality in some way.
dpolaristar Agreed. An ESFJ I know becomes offended for himself and others when ideas that are condemning of others or politically incorrect (in his opinion) are presented and makes statements "that's not right" or "you cant just say that." This happens frequently seeing I'm an INTJ speaking my mind as to how I see things and how logic is dominate to emotionality with myself.
Yeah, they are also a fairly common (abundant) personality type as well. I know you're not supposed to make preconceived, or biased, opinions on people by type but I find them to be so boring and a bit dumb. Or, to put it more "nicely"; short-sighted people with the intellectual depth of a saucer.
Ding, ding, ding. I'm an INTP who has lost his faith after 10 years of intense study into its origins. My ESFJ wife really doesn't care about all the damning info and just wants to stick with the program and the community.
@@CandyKoRn What a rude, unnecessary comment. Not really unnecessary but could have been worded better. I would assume if they actually put in effort and developed their Ti they would be intellectual. However it can be difficult (at least in my experience) to get an ESFJ to do such a thing. We have great ESFJS like Jacksepticeye who has helped so many people with mental health, he has raised awareness many social causes and has donated much of his money to help others.
Cheers to You, Michael, for the most superlative typology video series yet released! It's been a pleasure and I hope we'll see more of you soon. You're a sound mind in this field and the sky's the limit as to where you can take this. Thank You for all the time and quality You've poured into this. :) Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! :D
I don't know why people are saying this video is only about healthy ESFJs. He does mention unhealthy aspects in this video. He just mentions them politely.
i wish you a happy holidays too, my friend. when everyone tries their hand at something, and can't quite hit the nail right, there is always that one person who comes in and slams it square on the head, wowing everyone who had the good fortune to witness it, that person, in the case of MBTI, is you Micheal^^ Thank you, for making the effort and taking the time to explain it properly, and in decent time, this will greatly help me and everyone else in the future, *!cheers!*
I am watching all of your videos, trying to educate myself about typlogy. My mom is an ESFJ, and I understand her so much more now. In the past, I never understood why she could suddenly become stubborn about the oddest things. SHe can just go in complete lock, and no matter what I ask or say, she won't move away from this stubborness. I now understand a little bit more of why she does this. I'm an ISFJ.
Juni that’s really interesting! Can you please share your personal insight into how ISFJs and ESFJs differ? I’ve been struggling to figure that out, they just seem very similar to me, any help would be appreciated.
The video on ESFJ hits my nail on the head. Excellent work. I have taken 4 type tests at various times. I took the 16 types today on the Internet and this one sounds like me. Does this type tend to form small social groups around one purpose, for example a music group, book club, de-cluttering support group, when no one is previously available, but resent it when no one will step up to help?
Imelda Pear Yay! I'm glad it hit home! And yes, that has been an observation by CelebrityTypes.com that I agree with: perfectly capable of leading if that's what's needed, but what's the point of leading if there isn't cooperation from anyone?
I think the ISFJ/ESFJ attitude is what we need more of in America. The U.S. kind of operates along the Te-Fi dimension, quite individualistic, but lacking a sense of interconnected community. I say SFJ, because there is also a lack of sustainability, which comes from Si--no one is enjoying the simple pleasures and are opting for opulence. Not saying SFJs are incapable of demonstrating the negative aspects of society, just that U.S. culture in particular lacks the Fe attitude mixed with Si--basically the "guardian/provider/cooperative" attitude toward one another. This is a big thing for me to say, since my mom is an ESFJ, and we can't stand each other often, lol (I'm INFP).
American culture reflects certain tendencies. Some cultures are more introverted, but the U.S. is more extroverted. There are roughly the same number of extroverts as introverts, but some cultures chose extroversion and others chose introversion, so it is not a matter of quantity of a given type or dimension that a given dimension (extroversion) is favored. It does not matter how many Fe types are in the U.S., the culture reflects a lack of Fe...as I said it is individualistic (Te-Fi). We need every single type. I think ESFJ and ISFJ have been degraded by the type community, and I honestly do think Fe and Si are valuable functions, and that U.S. does not reflect the Fe+Si combo in its culture.
I think another example is this: I have a friend who is an ENFP from Japan. Japan does not reflect his type tendencies well at all, so he felt quite repressed. When he came to the U.S. he can better express himself.
ESFJ's can be really warm until they realize that you are different from them. That's the less developed ESFJ's, anyway. If you really are an Fi dominant, I find it hard to believe that you haven't felt this before. I think the balance of the world is fine the way it is. But if you really want the world to be more ideal than it is today, look at it this way: Since the forces of natural selection are largely based on simple physical interactions, you can expect those who pay most attention to physical interactions (xSxx types) to have an advantage over individuals who bring more long-term value to the table (everyone is strong in some way, it's only a matter of where). I think every technological revolution has shown that the most long-term value comes from the subtle and abstract solutions. So if the goal was greater human happiness in the long run, you would want less of the physical types and more of the abstract types. However, the danger of utilitarianism is misperceptions, and I am not arrogant enough to assume that my ideas are flawless. One potential pitfall is in my understanding that type is influenced by genetics. If I understand this article correctly, I think that it is: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9529660 Still, every type should be treated with the same level of respect.
Michael Pearson Hi Michael, you don't know how much I respect and look up to your opinions on matters, as it is usually quite well informed and fair-minded. I am still up in the air about genetic influence...the thing is that the MBTI in itself is a behaviorist instrument, but Jungian typology is about cognitive functions. Therefore, I suspect people within a family might type more similarly than they actually are if administered the MBTI. Just as an anecdotal example, my mom is an ESFJ and my sister is an INTP...how is that possible? You can argue my dad, my sister, and I are "IN" types and so inherited "IN-ness", but we are different IN types. My dad is an INTJ, and shares no functions with my mom or sister. In fact, he is very different from them, and my mom and sister think alike in certain respects. I am kind of the only person who can relate to him in the family, since we are on the Te-Fi axis. So the genetic question is quite complicated to me...is intuition heritable (regardless of whether it is Ni or Ne), or are the individual functions heritable (Ni begets Ni, Ne begets Ne)? I think the balance in the world depends on each culture. The proportions of each type, regardless of culture, is a good balance. As for the favored dimensions and cognitive functions of each culture, however, that varies by culture and therefore lacks balance, and each culture tends to favor certain characteristics. I think the U.S. tends towards the Te-Fi axis, not the Fe-Ti axis. I do feel that Fe-Ti spirit generally lacking, unlike other cultures where a sense of community, interconnection, and "greater good" is higher. America has this rugged individualism feel to it, which is great, but is one-sided and misinformed. What is interesting is that the early Europeans who moved to America are intuiting types...I mean, who would think about going to a far off land for the sake of ideals? Most Americans are sensing types, yet there is still a bit of this intuiting vibe in its culture...the desire for entrepreneurship and change. This is great and all, but at the same time, the sense of cultural values established in Europe, which is preserved through Si, is lacking in the U.S. The U.S. is ever changeable given its consumerist culture, lacking a sustainable lifestyle that Si provides. I do feel very different from an ESFJ, and I mentioned, my mom is one and we can't stand each other (I'm an INFP). However, I forced myself to realize my point of view is as valid as hers. It is really easy to fall into the trap in the MBTI community to think that Si, though useful, demonstrates a sort of inferiority...like some lowly worker bee function. I realized, after a long time, this is simply not the case. I enjoy Si now. When I practice a hobby like singing, I experience all my internal sensations and focus on my internal physical impressions...instead of abstracting from my experience with intuiting too much. This sense of enjoying the simple and "what is there" that Si demonstrates is what is lacking in U.S. culture. We gulp down our cookies and want more, since we don't experience each and every bite (Si)...and hence consumerism and lack of sustainability. In order to grow, intuiting types should stop feeling "special", as if they were born better than everyone else. I think everyone is "unique", including sensing types, but no one is "special" (this is the notion that one's uniqueness is better than another's). Once this is realized, then the true worth of intuiting and sensing can be understood. The goal of greater human happiness in the future is to respect the balance of physical and abstract types, not the increase of abstract types, for to be honest intuiting types (if they are stuck intuiting) are NOT happy with life, and do not encourage others to be, taking everyone else out of the moment, yearning for an image that never manifests, spending a lifetime like this. The integration of the physical and abstract, and of the Te-Fi and Fe-Ti axes are what leads to a healthier society. U.S. is tilted a little too much towards the Te-Fi axis, and though there are a lot of Si types, Ne is more greatly appreciated here than other countries. It is a good thing, but goes to show intuiting (at least Ne) is not as repressed as we think it is. The U.S. loves innovation (Ne), which is good for me since I possess an innovative tendency.
I love all these videos, they are very insightful and have been very interesting for someone like me who is trying to expand his knowledge about all the different types. Fascinating. I was very surprised to see Adam Young (Owl City) typed as an ESFJ though, I'm almost certain that he is INFP! He has such an obvious INFP quality to me, from his imaginative lyrics to general vibe. I wonder what made people type him as an ESFJ, he certainly identifies himself as an introvert as well and INFP seems like THE type for him.
depending on which test we take we get different results, i have 4 different types now, which one is it(?) INFP, INFJ, ISFJ (and one more i don't remember now, but began with E)?.
what's with the Ne Fe bit? I feel left out, with the capital letter followed by the lower case. Never heard of it. It's probably thought-I-er than I want to put my mind around
Imelda Pear I think what you're talking about is a common abrieviation for the cognitive functions these days: Ne = Extroverted Intuition while Fe = Extroverted Feeling.
but Micheal, i have to point out that you scarcely elaborated on the ESFJ tertiary function at all, i was just wondering about that; is there like a reason for it? or perhaps the amount that the typical ESFJ uses Ne is actually rather repressed? Thanks man ;)
Matuvo Namiikaze I was actually wondering about that while I put the video together. I'll be honest, I'm not that familiar with how the ESFJ expresses Ne, so I didn't say much. I don't believe ESFJs repress their tertiary any more than any other personality does, but I, at least, am not aware of any overt ways that it manifests other than being perfectly willing and interested in new untested possibilities or ways of doing things, unlike the typical ISFJ.
I think Ne is a lot more commonly expressed than I realize as an Ni dominant. My ESTJ sister has written several young-adult fantasy novels, which I think is a sign of highly developed Ne. I think the Ne of ESFJ's could also be expressed well in some people. Maybe nothing too earth shattering will come from it, but it's definitely there and does its job.
The Ne in an ESFJ typically comes out when interacting with others. I've seen them use it to carry the conversation forward. I could be wrong. It could just be their Fe.
***** honestly, your mother sounds fun :) wish there were an ESFJ guardian in my life to make everything alright like they're so good at doing... you lucky ;)
Lovely vid Sir. One note/offering of refinement: I get what you mean by "cooperation." I don't believe you mean "cooperation" with an archetypal & tyrannical leader (or just Tackleberry) shouting out: "You will do it & you *WILL* do it *NOW* ant legs!" type of "cooperation." And, I get you were basically saying that. The word I feel like/sense that you were really intuiting was/is: *collaboration* Seems like the intro quote (basically) said exactly that. Hmmm... So, I wonder how many NFL players running all those foundations are actually ESFJ's... You know? PS... A funny set of imagery I get is one of the original Independence Day (Movie). All those Aliens seemingly unstoppable in their collaborative "effort(s)." But, too bad. Because, on the inside, they were just poor, fragile, & weak little INTP's... ~{Tea time}~
I'm a bit confused again. What kind of an influence does the introverted sensing has on this type? You explained it a bit, but I feel like they are very one-sided after seeing this video. Like al they are is extroverted feeling. Have a nice holiday! and take your time :)
Si is an introverted function, it's not as easy to talk about it. If I understood well enough, it's knowing about people (since they are very interested with Fe), and what's generally accepted as rule for society.
ekneinniuk Yeah, I don't think I expained it as well as I could. From what I understand, I think the hallmark way Si manifests in the ESFJ is the focus on detail, the practicality of their ideas, and their groundedness. Those traits that I described in the video are mostly the result of auxiliary Si.
Naked girl at 7:09, i the only one who caught that so far? XD No worries Micheal, we know you didn't put that there intentionally or for any suggestive reason ;)
ESFJs seem like the perfect role models to me.Anne Hathaway is pretty and she seems like such a nice lady. Even though I'm a guy, I really like her personality. That is, from what I know about her. I don't want to know about the bad stuff she's done. Everybody does bad things that they later regret. The sad part is that celebrities have almost no privacy about their mistakes so the media seems to never let them live it down. Sorry for the negative ramble but I wanted to express that.
eightypuff01, not necessarily. There are statistical measures of "intelligence" based on standardized test scores that correspond with type. Not that I agree with the OP. I don't. I know some very bright ESFJs and enjoy listening to what they have to say and who they are as people. But I've also had some really, really negative experiences with a couple. Nothing I said or did seemed to register quite right, which was very, very irritating. And they were extremely nasty and insulting to me, too, hiding behind a facade of pleasantries. I won't say what they did to me, but it was extremely manipulative when I was feeling emotionally weak. I saw her doing it to someone I cared about too, and it was a totally unfounded secret hate to boot. This person she took a disliking to wasn't doing what she wanted her to, based on the gossip she'd heard from her friends, and so she developed a two-faced, gossiping campaign against the person who continued to cluelessly support her and speak well of her. Ridiculous. It turned everyone against the ESFJ eventually because she just wouldn't give it up and admit the situation was more complicated than siding with her friends just for the sake of it. And it isn't the only time I've seen that happen with someone who had an ESFJ preference.
mc 563 Were you completely sure she was ESFJ to begin with? Secondly, even if you were completely correct in your assumption and she was ESFJ, two people don't make up the total number of them. Thirdly, even if standardized test scores did have correlations to personality types (where is that study by the way?), the problem with MBTI in general is the dichotomy-based self-assessment tests just present an image of a person who has taken the test in that instant. MBTI confuses any details of your personality being a product of your environment for being a product of your genetics. I don't think that one type is smarter, but that smarter people test as one type.
I tested as ESFj and ENFp, but Jesus Christ I CANNOT HANDLE this guy's voice. Chinese water torture, this is fucking Chinese water torture I couldn't last two and half minutes.
@@thesevenkingswelove9554 Replying to a 4 year old comment that I forgot about, nice. 17 y/o me had worse misophonia (hypersensitivity to certain sounds i.e. whispers, whistles, heavy breathing, chewing, etc. triggers extreme discomfort and often an anger response) than current me, the narrator's voice triggered it. And there's nothing racist about referring to the literal name of an ancient method of torture originating in China. Chinese water torture is a form of psychological torture in which a "dripping machine" drips cold water very slowly onto the restrained victim's face for an extended period.
@@villainessy omg then you could have simply existed the video out if you hated it so much. It's really sad you have this condition but imo this video is nowhere that brutal as you are implying
