The Sopranos - Tony Soprano vs Carmine Lupertazzi Sr - all disputes (2001-2004) 

Yeah that would never happen in real life though, haha.

@@evyatarhadar8867 Real life mob guys love the Sopranos, so ironically they probably dont care if people see shrinks anymore

@@DeadManSinging1 I don't see how that's really relevant whether they love the show or not. There's too much risk nowadays for guys like that. They always have to make sure they keep everything to themselves and within the family. The government has too many weapons nowadays.

In real life they'd whack Tony and probably Milfy too, who knows what he's told her about their thing. And it doesnt matter if they like the show ir not, associates talking back to made men would never happen in real life like it does on the show either.

@@DeadManSinging1 Actually, Michael Franzese the ex mob guy repeatedly said that Sopranos is highly unrealistic in that aspect Because in real life if the mob found out the boss was seeing a psychiatrist? The boss and psychiatrist would be found in the trunk.

Watch the suit!!!

@@LeJobastre1215 hey if i was gonna break your balls i tell you to go home and get your shinebox..

@@purplesword5536 I known ya awwl My Life

They didn’t handle the gherkins too well...

"My son was a big help.." Yeah. Carmine Jr. was always the instigator.

You don't survive as long as Paulie has in the game, with little jail time that we know of, by not playing both sides and looking for yourself....nearly got him killed though.

funny how Pauli thought Sac was talking to Carmine about him the entire time only for him to find out that Carmine doesn’t even know who he is lol 😂

Stigmata?? I saw that movie i thought it was bullshit

@@stevejones148 Playing both sides is likely to get you killed though and Paulie isnt shown to be bright enough to pull it of for long. He probably survived as long as he did because he was never important enough to be taken out. As far as I can remember he was the oldest soldier in the Soprano family. Everybody else his age was already a capo by the beginning of the show and Paulie was only made capo the second season. He probably flew under the radar for most of his life, because he was never an important member of the Jersey crew.

​@@tjanderson5892 to still think how moron paulie was

not "the Don"...it's "Don..." get it right fucking misquoting fanoyk

@Del Boy 😂😂😂😂😂

It was added because real life mobsters told them that the Don would never wear shorts.

@@Tkieron Michael franzese said it was untrue

"Get that egg salad outta his mouth"

Some of the realist shit ever said on this show

Person Of Interest why fuck around?

I appreciate your concern, really

@@harpo6254 Wonder where Harpo's eat'n his Sunday dinner ?

@@adamchewy2284 under the boardwalk

No cowboy shit, nothing. Real old school

Allways with the dollars the fucking dollars.

healthy as a fucking rhino this guy!

Lil Carmine (genetically) had the makings of a good Mob Boss ...but he never became one....because Carmine Sr. neglected him by not teaching his son his Principles and Strategies. Hell! Johnny Sack and Phil Leotardo understood Carmine Sr.'s teachings & examples MORE than Lil Carmine!

@@1sam-ef Lil Carmine in my opinion was mildly pompous, he acted educated, attempted to speak wisdom but ultimately didn't know half of what he talked. besides his wife not wanting him in the life anymore Lil Carmine really didn't suit it, he did shine however with Chrissy on that movie,,, js.

He was the dying ember of the old ways. A better time for organized crime

Jackie Sr. was the same

What’s sad is that if he wasn’t so stupid and ignorant, than he could’ve made a killing without actually facing the threat of death and incarceration everyday of his life. For all his “smarts” he was a real dummy that took the life of crime over actual hard work

I don’t think it’s that cut and dried, the show questions whether Tony would have become a boss without the influence of his community and father. At the end if the day, I think Tony is cursed because he purposely refuses to change, but there’s also some sneaky ambivalence in there. “ya born into this shit, you are what you are.” Tony blames his genetics for his son’s depression because he is a determinist

@@colechapman3382 Moron. You think honest work will get you anywhere? Why don’t you tell that to a professor or surgeon? Criminal life is the easiest way to make money. Corruption of infrastructure business is the best, the Hungarians made millions this way after ‘91. As long as you can cover your trail and steal a fraction of a project’s budget, you can escape court in these shithole countries.

Indeed I don't.

@@borko1990 not even at a barbeque??

There's no stigmata these days.

AGAIN with the shorts?

@@harpo6254 Yeah, again with da shohts! it's settled, Harpo, so either name a price or get da fuck over it!

At same time i am sure he just "put it to bed" just to stop any conspiracy between Tony and Johnny to kill him and with just this words he stop that conspiracy and still make a profit out of it.

No. Carmine was owed.

@rudy2fat its more just the idea of the possibility. Carmine rubs me as the kind of character that would accurately weigh the situation without any idealized outcome biased by his own perceived immortality. Most the mobsters in this show felt like they were untouchable except for his son (and in my opinion) him.

This show was always pointing at the fact that New Jersey was new Yorks bitch Carmine was the boss of everything really. Carmine was owed just for being the boss of New yokr

Doesn't this just ignore the "we share Zellman" argument? Tony would benefit from New York's relationship with Zellman too. He wouldn't have the leverage over him alone.

Only gabagool right??

Imagine your last meal being egg fucking salad. Disgusting.

@@purplesword5536 Gabagool??!!?? Ova heeerrreee!!

@@multiplesifl I imagine that egg salad is all they serve in hell.

@@multiplesifl Imagine, your last meal being a egg fucking salad, some peoeple are stuffing themselves..H'es in no position to go intohe unknown not knowing

Never lied. Health Is Wealth.

More like words of a ball-breaker. Carmine is not concerned about Tony's health at all. He just wanted Tony to know that he knows about Tony's weaknesses ("spells"), and that Tony is seeing a psychiatrist. The rest is just bullshit. Carmine was all about these power moves.

@andraspongracz5996 of course. It was a nice way of saying he knows what's going on in NJ. But that aside, the quote on its own, it's a nice piece of wisdom.

One other thing tho, a Velez doesn’t wear shorts without re-sodding them.

Except He was not being nice but manipulative and passive aggressive. He just wanted to flex the fact the he knew he was seeing a therapist and by mob standards that’s a reason to whack Tony

@@smileyent.3055 thank you. How nobody sees this is beyond me

He's not genuinely trying to be nice. He's trying to show that he's more powerful and sees everything that Tony is doing while Tony has no idea what he's up to. He brings up something that he thinks makes Tony feel weak, so he looks more powerful and then acts merciful or fatherly toward him.

​@@TheMisterGuyyup. Don't think Carmine respected Tony at all. He probably realised that Tony was extremely unprofessional and not a suitable "good boss"

Another important question we’ll never get the proper answer for.

I dnt think so it was something 2 do with chickory

it was done by a couple a black guys from jersey.

The greenkeeper was in a beef with the Jew

Liam 67 What?! Goddammmmit what?!

Pass the bread

ya gotta cut him some slack i mean, he hasnt been boss of a family that long.

@@deathrager2404 family?? They’re a glorified crew

True, though as Tony reflects later Johnny liked to create tension between the families, but with little Carmine going off script here pissed him off cuz it’s out of his control.

I fuckin' hate that shi'

Very allegorical..

@Сергей Шаруев Well NJ was always much weaker than NY. They say Philly alone had more than 200 soldiers in his family. To allow NJ that degree of autonomy for decades was quite dispensative, and it proved to be a wise strategy as when the two eventually did go to war due to Phil's temperament, it ended up gutting both NJ and NY's top leadership Of course, NJ was forced to do errands for NY as well for the duration of the series, but they were never outright annexed

The Sopranos always were a glorified crew

Quite a few poseurs in the comments using words like dispensative, autonomy and annexed but I dont know I guess you deserve some slack you've not been posting on Sopranos Borko videos long. Probably been posting on some glorified mafia channel living off the scraps Borko leaves them. After reading some of these, kids were going to have sit down and get some things straight. Theres no scraps in Borkos scrap book.

@@joshschaeffer3300 Me and Borko have been friends for years. I use sock accounts. Talk on it once, then toss it... it's what the Taliban used to do

Rat move

​@@SovietRoscour low iq

Raise the banners! - Rob Stark

organized crime's influence on labor unions is anything but admirable.

​@@missbelled6700 how do they work?

It’s a shame someone burned hair around him, whatever happened there

​@@fezilemkohli6844whatever happened there??

@@yourex-zq2shGod rest his soul.

@@shriharihudli8596 whatever happened there?! I'll tell you what happened. This piece of shit's cousin put six bullets in my kid brother without any provocation whatsoever!

Business before leisure. Thats Carmine.

a pint of blood is worth more than a gallon of milk

RU-vid: You got nothing coming to you. You or Borko

20 years in the can. I wanted manigot. I compromised, i ate grilled cheese off the radiatior.

I believe when Carmine said "there is always a compromise", he meant it with the exact opposite intention as you understood it. Johnny Sack suggested that they should find a compromise with Tony Soprano to settle their dispute. Carmine answered "there is always a compromise" in an annoyed tone. I think he meant two things. One of them was addressed to Johnny Sack: "no shit, is there?" as in "thanks for the deep insight, you moron". Secondly, he meant that they should first try to put pressure on Tony and see if he gives way (as they did), and compromise should only be a last resort. Look at the scene again, and pay attention to the context. You will see that Carmine didn't lean towards a compromise at all. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kR1IB5inyX8.html

@@andraspongracz5996 I diagree. He looks at Johnny Sac and agrees, there is always a compromise. However, he is then intentionally wound up by his son. Carmine Jr is saying Tony hasn't a been a boss for long and almoat saying that Tony is getting one up on them.

@@karlparratt1730 Carmine Lupertazzi is a subtle ball-breaker. Look at the scene I linked, or this compilation we were watching (the one whose comment section we are in). In the linked scene, he starts out by asking "did you put sunblock on?". This is classic Carmine: something that sounds like a caring question a father would ask his son, but really, it's just getting under others' skin. He means "you guys are feable". He does the same thing with Tony all the time: How are your spells? Does the psychiatrist help? I'm sorry about the marital situation... All these are power moves: he is not really concerned, he just wants Tony to know that he knows, and to twist the knife. In the linked scene, he first insults his son by saying that he thought about Tony as a son. Then he insults Johnny Sack by the compromise comment. He is clearly annoyed and impatient by Sack's advice. He doesn't want a compromise. If you watch the series, you see. When Tony counters his 40% offer by 5.5%, he immediately hangs up and orders one of his low-level thugs to beat up one of Tony's associates. He was trying to force his will on Tony, not making a compromise. This was already clear in the linked scene when little Carmine tells him that Tony approached him and they talked. Carmine clearly expresses that he is unhappy that this happened.

Well given Ralph's weird fetishes that would be boththe most normal and bizarre thing he did with sex.

Again with the money??

@@Lupinthe3rd. Ralph is a masochist. He probably wouldn’t mind Ginny crushing his skull under that bakery she carries around.

@@Srinidhi00726 Yeah, again with the money.

HBO: welcome to my world

refresh my memory; why did Johnny want Tony to go lower. I know he wanted Carmine clipped because he was costing everyone money, but once Carmine settled wouldn't Johnny benefit from a larger cut for New York?

@@drunkdave5677 another good point my friend, however I believe in that moment he was helping him out as a friend. Because Tony at this point agreed to whack Carmine and Johhny left him holding his dick in his hand. They had too whack those two moolingans now etc.. I think he believed he owed Tony. Little did he know Tony would fuck him the same way later on. I believe. By pulling out of the next attempt on Carmine's life.

"Tony won". Yeah. Carmine starts at 0%, begins a feud, and gets 15%. But Tony "won". lmao.

Tony was always happy to accept 15 percent and as carmine said.. in the interest of putting shit to bed.. they sorted it out. If you have an opinion just share it you don't have to be toxic about it lol

Seemed more like Johnny's facial expression was less a signal to Tony and instead simply John's acceptance to the situation.

You and coco, whatever happened there

Dick Jackman The little cream on da mouth

Finn and Felicia, what ever happened there? @Meadow Soprano

@@1122reyes Finn and Vito, catching and pitching.

I think he's loosely based on Carlo Gambino, who was the prototypical silent but deadly Mafia boss.

Social club? He's gadda GO!

i appreciate your thoughts

I didn't say nuttin'

And the thing with the Vito whatever happened there.

@@greatdude7279 what happened there ? See if I can make that happen for you.

Akshay some real Guinea stuff.

I never understood why people find this funny. It's an eloquent statement, perhaps a bit unusual, but it makes perfect sense.

@@andraspongracz5996 because it's "stigma" not the fucking "stigmata" haha.

@@syok1107 Stigmata is the plural of stigma, haha.

​@@andraspongracz5996 You know, that's really funny, I had no idea that's another legitimate way to say stigmas lmao

“There’s nothing to be ashamed of, even Julius Caesar was an epileptic.” “I’m not epileptic.”

Bit of a poseur if u ask me..

What they reshine that green?

@@harpo6254 No more shines, Billy

@@batefather4457 wondah wheah harpo's eatin his sunday dinnah

Turns out it was Kermit the frog.

What!!?? How did I not know this!!!???

I had no idea Tony Lip had even acted!

@George Kafiridis Tony Lip was an Italian bouncer/tough guy from Brooklyn who was hired as a driver/body guard for a very famous blank piano player who wanted to do a concert tour of the southern US in the 1960's. They famously became good friends. They're both gone now but they made a movie about it called "Greenbook". ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6MgbNVbIaEs.html

@George Kafiridis no worries! It's a great movie!

@@Caesar316 It really was. And Linda Cardellini was in it. She's no Angie Dickinson, but still.

Meh, Bobby wouldn't be the man i'd put in charge. Maybe third in command. Carmine represented the old timers, the dying breed of gangsters.

Bobby had the makings of a good modern era boss, but nobody was gonna respect where he came from. A glorified babysitter with no bodies under his belt.

@@MrRyan-wu4jx he murked that one Canadian guy. Not that he was some big gangster but he still did it.

I thought Rusty would've made a good boss

Carmine was the only one who conducted himself like a true mob boss. Junior and Carmine Jr. weren’t respected enough, while Tony, Phil, and Johnny Sack were too hotheaded and let their emotions get in the way of being rational in their decision making.

he resods it every mornin

All combovers in his hair are irrigated

What if he cuts out 15%

Early 2000s dats what happened dere!

Up in da club!

LOL

What ever happened there?!?11?

But He wore em at Hugh's 75th B-Day party

I wore them in his pool

If you want, I could blow a couple of his security guards

ironically thats correct usage

Congenital learning disability, maybe?

Rhinos are a commonly known endangered species lol

andrewschannel sounds like a real stagmire.

Stigmata is plural of stigma

That Dude Merriam Webster ova hea

@@ongbruhlol you mean charles schwab

@@thatdude3938 Christians stole the word apparently

A Purple doesn't wear swords.

@@adamchewy2284 shudd up ill give ya a crack..

There's no stigmata these days

@@James_Price79 Thank you Mr Price Jr.......SIR...

Story goes the writer was eating at a restaurant and two mob guys came up to him, told him they liked the show, etc. But the scenes of Tony wearing shorts=Unrealistic, because “the don doesn’t wear shorts”.

everyone got under Tony's skin

apparently gandolfini was approached in real life by someone in the mafia after a few seasons and told him that line, which is why they incorporated it into the tv show.

Really ?! What about his cousin the Animal. "Boy are you fat!"

@Courtney Clark the character Carmine was played by " Tony Lips " he was thr original lead bouncer at the famous mafia hang out spot " cococabana " in ny

@John Juarez Tony b was out of line ..you don't put down your family memeber in front of others especially THE BOSS

Christofer who...Moltisanti? Acknowledge what?

@@chochopav Didn't his father get run over by a trolley?

He was too low in the hierarchy, lol.

He's a nobody.

He’s a zero with shoes

No way. Sharing Zelma doesn’t mean that after Tony literally himself put together a major scam that involved far more than just Zelman that NY should get almost half of it. That’s ridiculous. Don’t forget, Tony should then get 40% of whatever NY earns thru running scams with Zelman.

60/40 is not the lion's share.

@@davidanspach1624Lions Share means the largest portion of something, even if it’s only 51/49, the 51% is still the lions share. Yeah Tony would be getting the lions share

and now you're in a stagmire.

AIDS??!!!!??

@@1122reyes NOBODIES GOT AIDS!

never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

Even if this is bs it’s a great line my friend

Said to James Gandolfini in a anonymous phone call in the middle of the night

I agree.

CharlesSchwab ova here

That is the essence of capitalism, taking a cut off other people's labor. Usually is getting a lot more than what you initially put in or what you deserve, but if you are smart enough to present yourself as necessary and inevitable...you take things out of nothing

@@bartzhang391 Leon Trotsky ova here

Pay attention to that scene, Carmine Sr. Saying that was a very calculated move. By saying that, he’d get little Carmine to spill the beans on tony. Very intelligent.

But he never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

@@arodgefan589 I don’t think you’re wrong but I think If you compare little Carmine to Tony, Carmine Sr. Would much rather have Tony as his son. Only because Tony was quite literally born for that shit lol, where you can see how dumb little Carmine is in comparison to Tony and you can tell how incapable he would be as a boss of anything. Then you look at Tony who’s got complete command and control of his crew and Carmine Sr can clearly respect that where his son does pretty much nothing until he decides he wants to be boss.

@@sergiomendoza4850 does Tony really have command of his crew, when he’s got several members leaking to the FBI?

he loved him like a brother in law

Jackie would've been kissing ass

so what you're sayin is that borko is a glorified crew

I always thought of HBO as the feds

As long as the shinebox is irrigated....alright w me

Truthfully Speaking.....

Facts. I rewatched the show and Tony really did come out on top over Carmine in some situations. Plus Carmines own underboss was planning with another family to get rid of him. The only reason Carmine was still alive was because Tony backed out at the last second

Instinct 100% spot on