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The Southern Aurora 50th Anniversary at Southern Cross Station - Australian Trains 

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English - Welcome to another train video from Schony747! This time it is the Southern Aurora 50 Anniversary Special seen at Southern Cross Station in 2012.
The Southern Aurora was one of a number of overnight trains that ran between Australian Capital Cities. This train ran between Sydney and Melbourne. The first service ran in 1962 and 24 years later ran the last train under The Southern Aurora name 2nd August 1986.
Many of the carriages were preserved which enabled this 50th anniversary re enactment back in 2012. The train left from platform 2B at Southern Cross and back in the Spencer St days would have arrived and departed on either platform one or in rare case platform two.
Preserved New South Wales locomotives 4490 and 4306 were the power for the departure out of Melbourne.
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Filmed 26th May 2012 Southern Cross Station Melbourne
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@charki40
@charki40 4 года назад
I went on this when I was a kid. Shared a sleeping carriage with my Mum. I had the top bunk and drifted in and out of sleep to the rocking of the carriage and clickitty clack noise of the track. It was heaven. I wish it was still running. I would do it all again even now at 52.
@philipper68
@philipper68 4 года назад
Loved this train. I travelled on it many times in the early 80's I wish they would put it back on a regular service again. So many great memories just loved the whole travelling experience by overnight rail to Sydney.
@Schony747
@Schony747 4 года назад
My father and late grandmother share The same sentiments. They used trains quite a bit back then.
@malthompson653
@malthompson653 3 года назад
My father Malcolm Thompson senior worked on the Aurora for many years he was on board the day it crashed left after that only to return to the Aurora again. Went to the 50th Anniversary of the crash last year at Violet Town it was very moving ( Miss You dad xx )
@Schony747
@Schony747 3 года назад
That's a sign of respect for the train and how much your father enjoyed the job.
@carolyns99
@carolyns99 3 года назад
Traveled on the Southern Aurora, the Overland and the Indian Pacific all in the 80's. They were all a bit rough around the edges by then but I loved them. There is nothing like being rocked to sleep on a sleeper train.
@Schony747
@Schony747 3 года назад
Still a quality train none the less
@johnclayden1670
@johnclayden1670 4 года назад
Loved it! Wish it were still running - I'd use it on my next trip to Melbourne.
@Schony747
@Schony747 4 года назад
Yes unfortunately it's cheaper to fly in a tin can these days
@beagle7622
@beagle7622 2 года назад
They used to bring the 2 trains , the Spirit & the Aurora from Dynon Rd about 5.30. I would see them coming home from my girlfriends house. In early 82 I had one the best Roast Beef meals I ever had on the Aurora . Good food on that train back then. I would travel on it whenever I could.
@Schony747
@Schony747 2 года назад
Back in the day when people appreciated and paid for quality and service.
@jamesgovett3225
@jamesgovett3225 5 лет назад
Great filming, really enjoyed watching as it brought back a few memories when l started working for the VIctorian Railways back in 1970 as a lad trainee at the train lighting depot at dudley street opposite festival hall, I would often travel to newport workshops by train with an employee pass to collect important small pieces of equipment manufactured for electrical dynamos etc for the fitment to the carriages whether for the overland or the wooden stock, I remember we made all the batteries, the foot warmers were also were serviced there as well as the lovely aroma from the VR bakery, anyway getting back to the southern aurora, on my trips to Newport l remember seeing some of the carriages that were waiting for repairs from that terrible Violet town disaster also its 50th anniversay and l can remember how sad l felt knowing of the reasons and loss of lives, thanks again l intend to subscribe shortly.
@Schony747
@Schony747 5 лет назад
Thanks for looking 😀😀
@muhammadchalidafin5644
@muhammadchalidafin5644 2 года назад
The best of streamliner,Famous locomotive in the world!
@Schony747
@Schony747 2 года назад
Yes indeed!
@samuelanketell8190
@samuelanketell8190 2 года назад
I love the GM 2 stroke gen set reving it's berries of in the PHN power car 👌
@Schony747
@Schony747 2 года назад
Ah yes. Something the new generation won't know as power cars are virtually non existent these days
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 5 лет назад
For those outside Australia, prior to 1962, rail travel between Sydney and Melbourne required a stop at Albury where the NSW system, using the "Stephenson Standard" rail gauge would meet the Victorian system, using the "Irish Broad" rail gauge. Albury was known as a "break-of-gauge" stop and passengers had to disembark from one to embark on the other gauge's carriages, often in the early hours of the morning. In 1962 this break-of-gauge was removed by laying Stephenson Standard gauge tracks to Spencer Street Station in Melbourne, the station now known as "Southern Cross Station". The "Southern Aurora" train was inaugurated in 1962 in celebration of this then-new ability to go between the two capitals without the need to change trains at Albury. An instrumental piece by The Joy Boys called "Southern 'Rora"(Festival FK-227, issued in June, 1962) celebrated the train as well.
@youtubeviewer7030
@youtubeviewer7030 5 лет назад
Neil Forbes if I want take a trip from Albury to Broadmeadow (Newcastle) it would be twenty one hours and forty seven minutes
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 5 лет назад
@@youtubeviewer7030 Not quite. You'd have to chop 3 to 5 minutes off the journey as trains no longer terminate at Newcastle. They terminate at Wickham instead.
@suej9329
@suej9329 4 года назад
In those days, it was also an easy way to travel by rail between Adelaide and Sydney. You could take the Overland, overnight train to Melbourne arriving at 7am, change at Sunshine and then catch the Southern Aurora via Albury, arriving in Sydney at roughly 6pm, a 22 hr, continuous rail trip.
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 4 года назад
@@suej9329 Prior to 1962 this wasn't such a simple trip. Trains coming in from Sydney would stop at Albury as NSW had the 4 foot, 8-and-a-half-inch Standard gauge which terminated at Albury, as did the 5 foot 3 inch Victorian Broad Gauge line. This made Albury a "break-of-gauge" station. Passengers traveling in either direction had to change trains, often very early in the morning, and in Winter teeth would be chattering! 1962 was the year the Southern Aurora was launched when standard-gauge lines were laid all the way to Melbourne, thus cutting out the need to change at Albury. The XPT, the great-granddaughter of the Southern Aurora now does this trip. Though you can still travel to Albury from Melbourne by V/Line broad-gauge train.
@suej9329
@suej9329 4 года назад
Neil Forbes I did the trip in 1969. From what I remember it was pretty straight forward at Albury, but thanks for the help no. I still look back on it as a great travel experience.
@edmundcarew7235
@edmundcarew7235 2 года назад
A decade later than your excellent video, the 60th anniversary special departed Sydney at 2000 hours tonight (23 April 2022) with locos S303, T357 and P22 (not sure of the order). It should arrive in Albury just after 0830 hours on Sunday 24 for a ceremony and then at Southern Cross (slow timetable) at 1445 hours mid afternoon. I gather it has 16 cars this time, with all 140 available berths sold by St James Rail. See the latter's FB page for photos and a brief video.
@Schony747
@Schony747 2 года назад
It's running late and there will be plenty of coverage today as everyone is out for the train.
@everogers4435
@everogers4435 3 года назад
That was so wonderful, thanks so much for sharing this with us x
@Schony747
@Schony747 3 года назад
Thanks for having a look 😁😁
@jimcrawford5039
@jimcrawford5039 5 лет назад
I remember so well, never travelled on it, only the s
@brucewilliams8714
@brucewilliams8714 5 лет назад
The Southern Aurora began as a non-stop, 1st class only train. At both Sydney and Melbourne the trainsets sat at Platform 1 for over an hour before 20.00 departure. This allowed passengers, who wanted to do so, to have early dinner in the dining car with family and friends. A suitable warning was given for non-passengers to leave. Each twin-berth sleeper had its own ensuite toilet and shower, single-berth roomettes, toilet only. In the early days there was a 'drawing-room' compartment at a premium fare. Third-sitting breakfast was best because the crew were not pressured to hurry passengers out. Slipping down the hills south of Sydney at breakfast or in the lounge car was a great start to the day. Its replacements, based on the British HST, are much faster but not as luxurious.
@Schony747
@Schony747 5 лет назад
Thank you! You can't find this sort of information on a computer!
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 5 лет назад
@@Schony747 You can, if you're looking for info on the record I looked up the details of the record on 45Cat.com. The info on the break-of-gauge practice came from a book on steam locos and travel, written by former Deputy Prime Minister Tim Fischer. I'll find my copy of the book and get the title to you as soon as I can.
@125sloth
@125sloth 4 года назад
The Aurora, from the start, actually stopped at Albury to pick up passengers, and change locomotives up until the late 70's, at around midnight, and also stopped at Goulburn to detrain some passengers, the following morning. Carriages and dining car also had water tanks topped up at Goulburn, This is where the morning newspapers were collected by conductors to distribute to passengers. Bread for toast was also collected there.On the Sydney to Melbourne trip this was done at Albury.at 5am. Passengers from Sydney could also alight at Albury. I was a conductor on this train so know the system well.
@dweller6065
@dweller6065 4 года назад
I used to love the old southern aurora. But i never slept too well on its replacement, the XPT. Harsh ride, sharp bumps. Terrible food. It turned what should have been a pleasant evening into an ordeal.
@125sloth
@125sloth 4 года назад
@@dweller6065 The XPT's were really a cheaper version of the British HST's. Of course they were modelled on the HST, but in general, the Australian versions turned out to be lemons. They are to this day I would suggest. I never worked on the XPT as such, I have travelled on the XPT many times and also on the HST's in U.K.(most of which have been withdrawn now), and the HST's run rings around even the later Australian version of the XPT for comfort, acceleration and reliability. The earlier XPT's required proper regular maintenance. It was hardly ever done on time in NSW, so what happens? Just like a car not serviced properly, they can break down. And they did. As for the Aurora, as you mention, yes the food was much better and the ride a lot smoother. I really enjoyed working on that train, and the Spirit of Progress as well. The SOP was a very smooth and quiet train. Opposite to the Daylight, but the Daylight was fun. It could be taken over maximum permissible speed in Victoria on occasion, only when going down certain hills, but it was great hearing passengers saying how much faster it was than when in NSW. We only worked that train from Melbourne to Albury and return. Its funny how many people also forget or did not know that there were two of each train, running in opposite directions, and passing in NSW along the way.
@youtubeviewer7030
@youtubeviewer7030 5 лет назад
@1:47 that diesel sound brilliant
@HazptMedia
@HazptMedia 3 года назад
I wish this would run again
@Schony747
@Schony747 3 года назад
It will next time there is a charter down this way.
@HazptMedia
@HazptMedia 3 года назад
@@Schony747 yay
@mikevale3620
@mikevale3620 3 года назад
Contrary to some of the notes for this very good video, the 'Aurora COULD depart from Platform 2 as Platform 2, like Platform 1 was dual gauge, however I never saw it depart from Platform 2 as the Overland to Adelaide was due out from Platform 2 at 20:55. Platforms 1 & 2 were particularly long platforms like Platform 2 today at Southern Cross station which remains as it was. Platform 1 at Southern Cross these days has been cut back and allows the station forecourt to be more prominent.. The timetable for the 20:00 departure Southern Aurora was easy to maintain, I'm told by a mate who used to drive the Melbourne/Albury leg as the train only stopped at Albury and Goulburn and it was in the late 1970's I think that the train actually took passengers for those two stations and before then, you could not travel except between Melbourne and Sydney. The Sydney bound 'Aurora departed Spencer St station at 20:00 and crossed with the Melbourne bound 'Inter-capital Daylight' at west Footscray and I think the 'Daylight arrived at Spencer St at 20:20. There was actually a song called 'Southern Rora' by Col Joye and the Joyboys and the link is below: The song came out to celebrate the launch of the new air-conditioned 1st class express. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3XSmSERQakY.html&ab_channel=5GTRFMDJ ...which I well recall was played over the public address system at Central Station upon the last ever departure of the scheduled Southern Aurora before it was the next night amalgamated with the sitting and buffet cars of the 'Spirit of Progress' to become the 'Sydney Express'/'Melbourne Express', or comically the SEX/MEX! (Sydney, long known as the Sex capital of Australia and Mex, being for Melbourne as Melburnians are Mexicans...south of the border). The Sydney Express name plate replaced the Southern Aurora name plate on the Lounge car and coincidentally the name plate facing Platform 1 at Central was Sydney Express. On arriving in Melbourne, because Platform 1 was on the opposite side of the train, the name plate replacing the old Southern Aurora name plate was Melbourne Express...so that worked out perfectly. Due to the popularity once again of overnight sleeping car trains in UK and Europe, there is probably a market in Australia for a revamped overnight sleeping car train between Melbourne and Sydney...however that may depend on the amount of business travel that re-commences post the COVID-19 pandemic.
@Schony747
@Schony747 3 года назад
I doubt if overnight trains will make a comeback here. Unless airline travel becomes cost prohibitive, price and time will always win over elegance and style.
@atkinja
@atkinja 4 года назад
Great video - great train!
@Schony747
@Schony747 4 года назад
Yes my father has memories of this train and travelling on it.
@sylphil51
@sylphil51 5 лет назад
Brilliant.
@Schony747
@Schony747 5 лет назад
Thanks 😀😀😀😀
@davidparry8514
@davidparry8514 4 года назад
took that train down to Melbourne in 1964
@Schony747
@Schony747 4 года назад
It would have been a fantastic experience back then I'm sure!
@125sloth
@125sloth 4 года назад
Another great video. I love the raw, yet professional way it is done. Real sound, wind, the works. How it should be. If people today, who pay heaps to ride these "specials" actually knew what it was like to work on this train and other famous Australian trains "back in the day", they would get a true understanding of how rail operated in the past. The carriage sets used today are nothing like what the regular consist was back in the 1970's even. I worked on this train regularly as well as other interstate trains of the day. (Fares were reasonably cheap back then, even for that era). The Spirit of Progress today is even more "inaccurate" with the consist. This is such a shame. Since private companies taking over most historical and interstate trains, the efforts of so called "preservation" have been nothing to brag about i would respectfully suggest. The problem is compounded by certain individuals, with their own self interests, being involved in the "preservation" of the trains. The interior of some Aurora cars for example are an embarrassment, if the goal was to retain the interiors as they were prior to withdrawal of regular services. And don't get me started on the so called "original" Spirit. This is what happens when private companies take over the "historical" runnings, at an exorbitant cost to "customers", and the real consists of the old times are not even available or able to be accessed. And they are still around. However the most disappointing part is the lack of knowledge by the operators today, of what these trains were really like, to even pass on to passengers who wish to know. I am not intending to be negative, but having travelled on both the Aurora and Spirit in recent times, it is not worth the high price. And I am speaking for many other people who find these trips not to be value for the prices paid. That's my whinge over, but that said. I take nothing away from the dedicated volunteers who try and keep other trains running, and the staff on the trains are great as wel.l But if the government wants people to travel and holiday in Australia it has to be a reasonable cost, and until that happens, people will go overseas and travel on trains of all types there, which is often cheaper than staying home and holidaying in our own country.
@Schony747
@Schony747 4 года назад
I never had a ride on any of these trains. I was on the loco hauled Shepparton service a week or so ago and really enjoyed that.
@125sloth
@125sloth 4 года назад
No doubt you got some good video of that also, The Goulburn Valley line brings back memories, I often worked the old combined broad gauge Albury and Tocumwal trains way back. The two trains were combined weekdays at Spencer Street and split at Seymour with front section going to Albury and rear to Tocumwal, No mobile phones or 2 way radio even on trains in those days either. If someone for Albury got off at Seymour for the refreshment rooms and didnt listen to announcements, the Albury train left without them, usually with their luggage on board in rack in compartment. Or you would get passengers for Shepparton for example getting back on Albury train instead of Tocumwal one because they panicked and thought Albury section about to leave was theirs.It didn't happen a lot but how many announcements and one on one advice does someone need. At least the Goulburn Valley passengers could be taken to Benalla where the station master would organise a taxi to Shepparton, and Shepparton would hopefully had their luggage taken off by the time they got there. Great times indeed. I saw your recent video about the new No 58 tram Terminus at Coburg too. Very informative.
@simonmitchell4800
@simonmitchell4800 4 года назад
Brian Sloth I’d like to know more of the background on your comments above. Would you be happy to give me a call on 0428 421100?
@125sloth
@125sloth 4 года назад
You are a brave guy Simon, anyone could ring you purporting to be me. You did not like my comments? I was not having a go at your company who obviously run good trips for those who wish to do it. I was merely stating that I, along with a few other ex rail people have issues with all historical organisations prices running trips, because the costs are way over the top. Personal opinion. Even the Ghan is bit of a joke, yet always booked out. What people want to spend their money on is their business. I am fortunate to be able to afford these trips but after being on some I no longer go on principle. I will say that your upcoming Riverina tour would be great for those going. Having lived in the Riverina I would recommend that trip to those who wanted to go. I know your trains target a niche market so that is fine. It is other organisations who run "excursion" trains that I mainly aim my comments at. Often poorly organised and way over priced.And people have to put up with certain groups of"enthusiasts" who have no consideration for others travelling.
@simonmitchell4800
@simonmitchell4800 4 года назад
Brave enough to buy 15 ex-Southern Aurora carriages, 7 re-activated to date. I’m very interested to hear anything about working these trains, and we want the best experience for our guests, so understanding things to avoid is of great interest to us. I’d love to have a chat.
@291281
@291281 4 года назад
¿Es de metal?
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 5 лет назад
0:59 Shhhhhhh...... Be very, very quiet! The carriage is trying to get in some snooze time!......We-ell, it is a "sleeping" car! LOL
@youtubeviewer7030
@youtubeviewer7030 5 лет назад
the good old days of train travel
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 5 лет назад
@@youtubeviewer7030 Though this material was shot back in 2012. Schony(Brendan) must've been waiting for a good opportunity to upload this video.
@youtubeviewer7030
@youtubeviewer7030 5 лет назад
Neil Forbes this is the style of travel I miss
@youtubeviewer7030
@youtubeviewer7030 4 года назад
Neil Forbes yes he would have
@jimcrawford5039
@jimcrawford5039 5 лет назад
Sorry, only the Spirit. I do remember Violet Town well. Those were the days. Riverina, NSW.
@Schony747
@Schony747 5 лет назад
I only remember small bits as a kid visiting from the country
@skippybingham5715
@skippybingham5715 5 лет назад
Ah, Lazy sound of an ALCO 251 series. Always knew when I had crossed the state border
@brianwilliams9706
@brianwilliams9706 4 года назад
This is a great video. Where do they store the carriages
@Schony747
@Schony747 4 года назад
Carriages would have been stabled at Dynon. The same place where the Overland consist is stored.
@brianwilliams9706
@brianwilliams9706 4 года назад
@@Schony747 Thanks for the update, I presumed that as I had never heard about them that they were being stored somewhere in NSW. It's too bad that the NSW or Victorian governments never had the foresight years back to do what they did with the incredible railway museum in Strasburg Pennsylvania.
@mervallan1822
@mervallan1822 2 года назад
Rode on it from Sydney to Melbourne late June 1962 on my way to OCS at Portsea. I was the Leader of a group of 12 Junior Class Cadets!!!
@Schony747
@Schony747 2 года назад
I recall my grandmother taking the Overland and back then the Trans Continental to Perth back in the 80s. By all accounts the trains back on the day were an awesome way to travel.
@Djr67
@Djr67 4 года назад
Did the XPT replace the Southern Aurora?
@Schony747
@Schony747 4 года назад
It actually replaced the Melbourne Express which was a combination of the day and overnight interstate trains.
@johnd8892
@johnd8892 4 года назад
@@Schony747 Southbound was the M.elbourne Express. North bound Sydney Express. Railway codes MEX and SEX !
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 5 лет назад
3:52 Diesel loco #4490 often seen at Maitland's Steamfest.
@Schony747
@Schony747 5 лет назад
Yes. And steamfest is a great event as well
@neilforbes416
@neilforbes416 5 лет назад
@@Schony747 It is a great event, though at 30+ years it's starting to get tired. Only two steam locos took part in the 2019 staging, though both were making returns after long absences, 3265 "Hunter" in her traditional burgundy-coloured livery and 3526 in new green livery.
@youtubeviewer7030
@youtubeviewer7030 3 года назад
@@neilforbes416 due to social distancing the government let the organizers run the event because of crowed size
@Traintrooper
@Traintrooper 5 лет назад
What contry is this in
@geoffreyfield6686
@geoffreyfield6686 5 лет назад
Australia
@Traintrooper
@Traintrooper 5 лет назад
Oh ok they look a lot like Amarcin e and f unit locmotivs also do Australias trains have bells
@brucewilliams8714
@brucewilliams8714 5 лет назад
@@Traintrooper Not normally, but the NR class are fitted with bells. This is unusual, as the American practice is not adopted here.
@Traintrooper
@Traintrooper 5 лет назад
Ok thx
@Palifiox
@Palifiox 4 года назад
"Australian Trains", English language, "Southern Aurora" The clue is in the title,
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