The Spotlight goes inside McNeil Island: Home to Washington's most violent sexual predators 

In Germany they have the Dukenfeild program for petafyles & Germany has significantly low malestation rate compated to America the guy they let out in America that said he was going to reoffend they should have let him out but this program proves that people can rehabilitate I mean I'm a victim I was sexually molested and I'd rather people get help and forgiving because people become destructive again if they're not forgiven I can understand not wanting to trust them again it is hard to trust again maybe they can do cats scans to see if the empathy part of their brain has grown cuz there's cognitive empathy building therapy and but also an adult people fly over to Germany for the programming so I think they need to do a lot more to prove that they're not going to offend again and they shouldn't be around kids for certain amount of years improve themselves that they're not going to repeat their mistakes 80% of the boys we're sexually harassing girls including music they listen to that said it was okay to do that it was sexist religions cuz they're really bad influences on men and boys especially Grand Theft Auto video games and need better presidents that aren't pedophiles got to get rid of capitalism to that lowers empathy and people and politicians sexist religions is one of the leading causes of domestic violence and sex crimes in America I think we need to focus more on getting rid of the bad influences in the Netherlands they got rid of the death penalty in the middle of the 1800's and it's because they have significantly less crying because their Rehabilitation programs are amazing and people are forgiving same with Sweden Belgium New Zealand very low crime there get me wrong I mean they need long punishment in jail but I actually knew a guy in a shelter I lived in when I was waiting to get on Section 8 cuz I have a bone marrow condition megablast anemia and I collapsed and couldn't move cuz the bus doesn't go down the road I needed them to go down and I'm on Paratransit disabled buzz and usually it stops in front of building a man but some roads they just won't go down and I was in front of an area where drug dealers sell drugs and they kidnap women and the guy I met at the shelter he was really old by the time he got out of jail and he went in jail when he was 20 and he killed a bunch of officers during a bank robbery any raping women and he picked me up he ripped the stitches helping me and carried me to this shelter and he didn't try to harass me or sexually assault me back to the South cuz he couldn't find housing up here cuz of his record begin with a friend that he knew and so and I did research that some people are molesters because they have no empathy and they just need cognitive empathy building others become molesters are pedophiles because they can't get along with adults so they go for someone younger and some of them commit suicide because they don't like themselves and then there's some that become letters 50% because they've been molested themselves not everybody who is molested becomes a molester everybody deals with trauma differently what happens as a they develop hypersexuality but they don't realize what it is and the sex drive in blagada gland is also the gland for flight or fight response and when the trauma happened and they want to feel control and their sex drive turns on at the same time when they remember what happened to them and they may go into psychosis or partial cut psychosis and repeat the offense and then there's molesters that have been influenced by like what I was talking about before they don't develop their empathy part of their brain very much because of the bad influences of abuse p*** and sexist religions and likes Christianity and strip clubs and toxic media and two boys 8 and 10 played Grand Theft Auto video game or prostitutes are killed and prostituted and they went out and murdered and raped a little girl on the playground after playing the video game I mean so that's another cause and then there's more but I didn't go through all of them to read I guess I just wanted to understand why the person that hurt me hurt me and cuz I have to forgive in order to not attract toxic people in my life and I don't want to stick toxic validation from my effusive of relatives anymore and I want to have hope that they'll change and in my life again and get the people family member that is a rapist in molester in our family cuz he hasn't gotten better and I'll never leave the kid alone with him even if he did get better and was legally allowed to be around kids but there's a cause and it can be fixed they're not just stuck that way according to psychological studies

Only GOD can fix them.

@@lightwarrior432 that's right, they can make their peace- then the death penalty! These crimes are worse than murder! They've deflowered and scarred their victims for life!

You are wrong, there are treatments that work for (some) individuals. You cannot lump every-single induvial of any group together.

@@leonardothefabulous3490Found the chomo You need your hard drives checked

I PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST OVER YOUR FAMILY FOR HELP AND HEALING AND PROTECTION.

That's so heartbreaking! I'm so sorry that your daughter & your family are going thur such trauma, I pray that y'all find peace & healing.

Prayers; never give up, it takes time and time heals.💖🙏

She has to stop being a victim/survivor. She has to move on. It can’t be undone. Don’t let him take the future too.

@@kumstayne4884 👈🤔 What's up with that name??

I agree if they trust they won't re-offend, then you can rent out a room in your house. Or next door, then they can be monitored and get all the sympathy they don't deserve.

Exactly. Why even take the chance.

Yeah well then again you know everything nowadays just seems to be a Bizarro world

These people have already served their time and without this treatment facility would already be walking freely in society. Washington seems to be doing everything they can to protect their citizens by at least attempting to get these criminals mental health treatment. I don't know what more can be done unless those convicted of this type of crime received life sentences (which I'm not necessarily opposed to myself; I'm just pointing out that this is not currently the case).

They will reoffend

It's crazy! They have 2 staff members for every offender, that was my first thought. And these are doctors, and social workers, and counselors. I'm sure their salaries aren't on the low end.

Used to be over 150000 per resident back in 2011, I can only imagine now….

Split shifts. Staff has to go home. But yes keep them on the island

Yes…he needs to be sexually violated to ‘ get it’ !🤬

Let them move next door to Inslee! He's the one who is promoting these releases!

Him, not worrying about them, is a reason to worry about him.. This is a disaster waiting to be unleashed on society.. 🤯more dreamers 😴

Good for them, then take them home and let them babysit your children or grand children..Leave them on the island..

You missed the whole point of this video. Being behind bars won't help them change and become better people. They deserve to get help that they so obviously need. If 10 years down the road after treatment they are released and they don't offend again because they received that help then what's the problem. This facility isn't releasing people weeks after they get there they are there for years until the staff feels they are ready

@LilRae Like I said, you think they are able to be rehabilitated, invite them to live with you and take responsibility when they reoffend Because They Will, just like a rabid dog.

@@DeAnne1233 it's sad that you think of other humans as a rabid dog. I hope you never experience a mental health crisis because you seem to think people deserve to die rather than receive help.

@@lilrae1458 ​ 🤦‍♀️ okay here’s a much needed FYI for you honey: Literal *CHILD MOLESTERS* are not put behind bars to “ *change and become better people.* ” They are there to receive punishment & due justice for their horrific crimes. And, of course, to keep them away afrom the vulnerable population they prey upon. I also think you may be confusing pedophiles with child molesters. Pedophilia is the mental condition, while molesters are the actual offenders. There’s some overlap, but there are plenty of child molesters who don’t even have a compulsion to hurt kids, & are instead just sadistic psychopaths who get off on causing pain & happen to choose to attack children bc they’re easy targets. Treating pedophilia may be helpful, but even when that works, it has very little impact on keeping our kids safe, because so many of these offenders arent pedos in the first place! They’re just pure evil. I say keep ‘em locked up where they belong.

@@g.h.7661 I'm not saying that they shouldn't also do their time for the crimes they have committed but they should also be allowed to get help after prison or in prison if they want it. Being a psychopath is a mental condition that can be helped through therapy and medication. people who have committed crimes likely were never offered or had the opportunity to receive help for their problems. Throwing people in prison for a set amount of time then releasing them straight back into society isn't going to change anything or help anyone. Institutions like the one in this video exist as an extra layer to actually rehabilitate people after they have served their time and help them not become repeat offenders. We can never undo the harm that they have caused but we can help them to not do it again

I second this

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@@lonewolftrucker3955 That's a myth!

kid touchers i agee. but what about men whose animal instincts took over against grown adult women?

@jaden park yes them too. Certain animals need to be caged because they're dangerous.

Yes and no. "Sex offender" unlike, "murderer" or "arsonist" is an umbrealla that encoomposes many-many different types of acts. You're lumping 'peeping toms" in with child molesters.

Tell that to the Liberals they're going to keep trying to let these people out. None of these people come back into society and don't reoffend

@@andrewbochicchio2232THAT’S IT!! It’s the demonrats that WANT THEM to be released because THEY KNOW it will happen again. #pureevil 👹🤡🤡🤡

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This is the same governor who almost released the Green River killer during "covid"!

@@allencolvin4320 💯💯

They clearly haven’t been assaulted.

Right. And not every pedophile is a sex offender. Some have morals and refuse to hurt children.

Good grief. That is horrific. I hope you & your siblings have received all the support you need & that the paedophile ring has been taken down. It’s so sad that there are so many paedophiles in a position of power that protect other predators.

💯They are fine right where they are...nuff said.

Makes one wonder.

That's because those sex offenders are not in fact serving a prison sentence. They've already done that. They are being involuntarily held there under involuntary civil commitment, which is not a part of criminal law, but rather a civil procedure. The state has the power under the law to forcibly detain people who are a threat to themselves or others for the purposes of mental health treatment or simply to protect them and the public. Civil commitment doesn't require a criminal conviction or even for a crime to have occurred. It requires only that a court determines, based on a preponderance of the evidence, that the individual is a threat to themselves or others. Due to these sex offenders having committed violent sex offenses, upon release from prison, they are immediately detained and involuntarily committed in order to protect the public and get them treatment. Since this is not punishment, but rather treatment, they would be treated far better than prisoners.

Actually s.o’s in general are the least likely to reoffend. That category goes to burglary and drug dealing. For a small portion of sexually deviant people sure they can’t control it. But there’s maybe 100-400 of those in the state… there’s tens of thousands of repeat burglars and drug offenses.

They have more rights than their victims. I speak from experience.

@@detritusofseattle they should never be released.

But that's just it: they have already served their sentences and are simply being held under involuntary civil commitment due to being deemed a violent sexual predator. Treatment is required before they can be released. That's the point of this segment. It takes years of treatment for them to be let out, and even then there's no guarantee. I'd add that level 3 isn't just pedos. It's also certain types of rapists.

They already served their full sentence before they go to this place. This where they get the help. They are monitored after being released from here. Did you even watch the video?

They have served their full time and are receiving mental health assistance and will be monitored as they transition back into society. So you agree that the system is working as planned?

Too bad not all places are like this. Some can just quietly serve their time without doing any sort of rehab or parole.. free as a bird.

Or in some cases, never earned at all.

Absolutely

Surely they don’t give them the temptation…

Oh trust me..They use the internet. They go to stores, churches, movies, etc. There are children everywhere. Some even use the ads in the paper for children's clothing. I'm dead serious. It's evil. Pure evil.

@@katie7748but really?. That bad

This is why a lot of murderers today are feining mental illness. They dont have to go to jail, they go to a facility and get special treatment and go outside and walk in the gardens etc...

How does that stop murderers?

💯💯💯 The only reasonable answer here

Agreed!

They also have not addressed the fact that many of them are raping each other, (poetic justice) and have been doing so since they were at Monroe prison. They continued raping each other once moved to A unit on McNeil and still continue once moved to the McNeil Annex(commitment center). The female doctors and other self important staff are delusional. Book smart but common sense and reality stupid. I get it though, no body wants to admit the money spent and years of schooling, not to mention the years spent on the job are complete waste of what might have been an-otherwise potentially fruitful life.

Exactly! I saw a documentary where the sexual predators were interviewed and every one said they cannot be rehabbed but would lie to get out.

Where are the women offenders kept, they never even get mentioned and they usually assault children ????

@@middleclassretiree usually in general population unless they are repeat offenders. Then they MIGHT go to McNeil. I only know of two females that went to McNeil but they didn’t stay all that long.

Yeah you don’t get what that island is. It’s where they go AFTER they finish prison. And they don’t have a release date.

@@kumstayne4884 no matter what it is would you want a island of rapist and pedophiles next to you? Like really think about that for a second, you have 1000 + rapist and pedophiles down the street from you and your family, how would you feel everyday when you go to work and leave your family at home around shit like that? Do you think all of them will change and not try to escape or be lurking in the night waiting on your child

@@Moellmoell you’re obviously either the victim of a crime or related to one… these weirdos aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. Get out of your feels. These wierdos are locked up indefinitely. And since it’s an island I really don’t care.. they can’t leave

@@Moellmoell let me make it simple. They’re locked up forever just like you asked. AFTER they went to prison too. So they got what you got and many times past that

@@kumstayne4884 they are not locked up for ever smh

No one wants to know that. They would find out that sex offenders have the lowest recidivism rate of all criminals. They would learn that sex offenders act out on anger not sexual deviancy. Common sense tells us that sex offenses are committed everyday by “upstanding citizens.” I was raped for years by grown women but no one ever talks about women being sex offenders. This witch hunt is a joke and doesn’t protect my family or my children but just costs us millions nationally for constituent appeasement. The answer lies in education and parent responsibility. Not charades

They should just bomb it

i agree on kid touching freaks being locked up in that island for life. but what about men whose animal instincts took over against grown adult females?

Not with every crime. The vast majority of adult sexual offenders never change. It's unwise to risk the lives and mental health of the general public. The same people willing to pass out second chances to rapist and pedophiles ironically, don't want them in their communities.

@@Narrow-Pather Ok but the majority of people committing armed robbery never change either though. Some rehabilitation couldn't hurt them. Our current prison system only makes things a worse.

or just build more prisons. its safer to keep them locked up than to risk freeing them.

Yes-even if this isn't a prison.

Could be because they can't find any true comparable populations. If all the state violent sexual offenders are going to this commitment facility then there is no control group: all other offenders would be out of state, going to state facilities and participating in state programs that differ from Washington's. It could also be that the amount of people who have transitioned back into society after undergoing treatment is too small to do a statistical analysis. I agree with you that such a comparison would be helpful and is the only real way to see if this facility's programs are effective.

The justice you are talking about is criminal actions and you will be jailed.

@@Nightmarefuel66 are you a parent?? Most likely not. Don't speak on what you don't understand.

​@@humbleisme2381They are right, though. If you think with DNA evidence nowadays that you're going to get away with murder, you are sadly mistaken.

You think this is "special" treatment? You make it sound nice. And probably every victim of violence has access to treatments

What if there is no victim

what is it called exactly?

@@jadenpark7943 the offender locator

pedophiles i get.but men who did women wrong, thats just animal instinct. after treatments they can come back to society if the victim women were grown adults

What is wrong with you

Exactly. The data shows that these programs don't produce outcomes when it comes to decreasing danger to the public.

BINGO

"The law" has nothing to do with victims. "The law" is designed to punish, not help.

hey what about the staff

@@jadenpark7943 Obviously we evacuate them first lmao

They did address this by saying there are no plans to close the facility on the island.

Morton ? Mossyrock?

i agree with you on children molesters. but what about men whose animal instincts took over against grown adult women?

Exactly! Watching my daughter’s pedophile live free is the greatest insult. I have zero faith in our system. I truly believe our government is just as sick if they don’t believe in death for such crimes. My child will never reach her full potential and it even destroyed my life. You have to relive it over and over though the logical side of you knows it wasn’t your fault.

@@ambermyers7463 I’m so sorry that happened to your daughter and to your family. Sadly, I know what it’s like to go thru something like that. It also happened to my son. As a mom I know what you carry around…..

Agreed. Reading many of the popular comments it's clear that many people didn't actually watch the entire video.

I did watch the entire video and I understand the purpose of the program but even the employees in the documentary admit that they are attempting to lower the chances of risk of offenses reoccurring, not that complete safety of others is guaranteed upon release. Of course the program itself is noble and both an ethical and much-needed undertaking, but it’s simply unrealistic to think that crimes will never happen again in the future. For anyone, old habits are hard to break and even once one has learned coping strategies and mechanisms, there can still be moments of relapse or falling into familiar habits during moments of great stress. Many people aren’t outright stating that the program at the commitment center is a positive thing, but I do believe they would agree with that statement. Unfortunately, even the best laid plans and hopes cannot alter reality. And in my opinion, the reality is that people who’ve engaged in this type of activity should be closely monitored and supervised for the rest of their lives. When you think about it, it’s not too different from group homes where disabled individuals live and are cared for because they’re not able to live independently (although I do acknowledge that living in a group home due to disability and living in a group home to prevent future violent crimes are starkly different circumstances with different care needs). Defeatist and cynical? Perhaps. The truth? I’m afraid so. To conclude, I’m aware that this type of extended group living arrangement doesn’t currently exist as a permanent living option (at least that I’m aware). But it’s really the only adequate and safest answer with the lowest possible likelihood of reoffending.

This people decided to harm others in a horrible way, scared them for life if they are still alive, and you want to help them? What about their victims? Who will help them? The victims need more help than they are getting. Poor homeless people who are starving need more help. Orphan kids need more help. Alos this program, institution does not have a 100% guarantee. Who to say they wont go back to their awful way after 5 years released? Who to say they wont become smarter and harder to catch them? Even if just 5% of them will re-commit awful crimes, that could still mean 100 of victims. Is it worth innocent people to suffer in order to release them? Their past victims are still suffering even now. is it worth making new victims?

@@STCatchMeTRACjRo You could say the same thing about people who have taken the lives of others through malice or negligence and we release those, too, once they've served their time. If you have an issue with the justice system, do your part by contacting your representatives.

@@EternalGalaxies I agree with you completely, but currently (for better or for worse) the crimes these people have committed don't carry a life sentence in prison. From an entirely cynical view, all the people in this commitment facility have served their time and the state is using somewhat flimsy reasoning to lock them up in a type of medical hold -- I'm not sure how well it would hold up if someone were to push for their civil rights and push to be released -- and with every day they are being treated "medically" that's one less day they are freely walking around unsupervised. I'm glad you watched the video and commented here because I think conversations like these are important and need to happen. My statement about many people not watching the video was in regards to the top comments at the time who were arguing that these people need to stay on the island and shouldn't be released from the island until they had served their full sentences and received mental health treatment -- which as we both know, since we did watch the video, is what the video is about and is advocating.

It is not up the the "warden"-of which there is none. And, they are there FOR treatment. Ergo why would they let an individual go not having done exactly what they are there for???

there is no WARDEN. this is NOT A PRISON> there is only a CEO, and he does not get to make the cal on who stays and who goes. that it done by a judge.

The constitution doesn’t care about your feelings buddy 😂

It's not about training men .. every man or boy knows this behavior is wrong .. these people are animals with no regard for human life

how we pay for it