The Star Z-63 Submachine Gun: Better Than You Think 

It's a beautiful weapon.

Still in use in some units of military and police.... 🙈

Mine is still blaming the Rey Emerito for stealing him 1 week of permission. When he was returning from the Adriatic sea they took his ship (Santa Maria frigate) to protect the king's yate in it's way to Lisboa. Te lo dejo en inglés para los guiris

Also he remembers having it in his hands, he says that he likes it more than the CETME

En el 88 yo ya tenía el Z70

En España se nos ha dado muy bien el arte de la guerra, desde la falcata Ibérica terror de los romanos pasando por las espadas roperas del siglo xvii con los tercios viejos de infantería españoles terror de Europa hasta el mauser español 1893 y las pistolas Astra 400 muy cotizadas por los oficiales alemanes en la Segunda Guerra Mundial y la División Azul

La armería española, concretamente la Armería Vasca de los siglos XVII y XVIII de las mejores eel mundo.

Con la "Transición", al entrar en la UE muchas de las fábricas con solera se reciclaron a la fabricación de tornillería y herramientas.

@@rubenjj5948 tendras que hablarle en ingles

Probably you know or maybe you have it, i recommend a revolver astra or a beauty 9mm short, really beauty firearms. Hi from spain!!

that's actually really cool

I had that one too! With the orange barrel tip, right?

Forgotten toy weapons channel, when?

Im pretty sure I had this as a toy as a kid too.

I had that toy too...

That's very likely.

It most definitely is. F for fuego, and S for Seguro.

To be true the “F” means “fuego” and the “S” also means “fuego”😂

Viva Epaña coño

SF. Super Franco

Alejandro Bastida Ruiz y yo creyendo que era el ultimo español por cierto no seras tu mi primo😹😹😹

@@pablobastidaalbaladejo751 no serás tu primo 3º mío? (Atajo)

An RSC. I looked. I need another one.

Give us time. We got you.

Stephen Keeler oh hush, we got one of them

Howdy. Happy Friday!

G11

Well...anything with that gangsta hand guard looks like an enlarged Tec-9....

i'm sure the barrel has something to do with it

Looks more like a straight Sterling ^^.

But tec 9 is a pistol and this is a smg. But both are sisters.

Looks like a bullet hose to me.

spef Nice pic.

Alex that is a very scary picture!

not as scary as your's, spef :P

Hello handsome.

spef if you didn't find me scary, I will find you.

Toledo blades have been acknowledged as some of the best in the world for centuries

@@adrianfirewalker4183 since the Roma Empire

Un arma de fascistas españoles

Peiper y arriba España

@@josesilesgarcia9859 Eso con Goma2!!!

That was key in the whole part there was Germans involved lol Who make some of the best guns on the planet

@@chevyvet69 Italians?

@@InfernosReaper Thats a good one lmao

@@InfernosReaper no, italians make good shotguns and maybe pistol but that's it.

@@InfernosReaper nah we don't, belgians maybe

Obviously a fan of Doctor Who.

So they were show guns? How could you guard with an unusable weapon

@@juliuspeperwood1128 Because only the guard knew it was unusable!

Lol They gave you a on usable gun to guard with I thought it was just the US military that made us do stupid things

@@chevyvet69 May I ask why they give you unusable weapons to guard a position? Even a pistol would be better than that

@@mayorgeneralramirez1997 Because they were 12 months militia kids. It was for preventing them to kill themselves or someone else by accident.

Guardia Civil too I think. Guerrilleros de montaña lo forman unos chavales... ♪

It's all in the coating. If you've ever been around old projectors or generally old equipment, kinda the same feel to it. It's that "sharpei" paint, as i like to call it.

I've also seen it described as a "crackle finish".

It probably was one at some point.

Benjamin Etxaburu What keeps the ratchet from engaging during normal firing. He says the charging handle depresses button thus dropping the ratchet. But what about when it’s firing?

Probably Gamo or Norica one 😉

Marcos Diaz It was about 50 years ago

Gamo is 60 years old

The solution employed on the URU seems to be much simpler. The Star lacks some type of safety to prevent the gun from firing if the charging handle escapes while cocking, like the latest UZIs and the Walther MPL, but if you use handloads, that Thompson moving firing pin makes a big difference. I saw one of these weapons, I am not sure if it was at Sevilla or Valência military museum, maybe both, I visited these museums in 2011.

Good to know it's there! Of course I can't get it just looking for that drawing (the same found on Military Small Arms Of the 20th Century, 7th Edition). It has many tension springs, I dislike these springs, they may get broken in one second or two hundred years... nobody knows when. Does the 70 have the same moving firing pin? (May I call this firing pin "seesaw type firing pin"?)

Forgotten Weapons has a video on URU. I suspect it has no other safety measure than an inertia operated blocking sear, and this device is very easy to understand on the video. I still can't understand how that trigger works. I am trying to solve it using a raster image on CAD (trigger, sear and disconnector on the same piece? no axis hole? URU deserves to be studied, I can't recall such a simple trigger on any other SMG).

The brazilian URU-solution is surely ten times cheaper... But this charging-handle/rod is also ten times cheaper than the Owen 2-chamber-upper-assembly for avoiding open throughholes on the upper assembly (for the charging-handle), thus keeping the space behind the bolt free of dirt...

El cetme es español...

@@JohnnyPollas si señor, español de España...

@@JohnnyPollas cual es tu duda del CETME?

@@hesperid1 mi queja del cetme es que de reclutón me toco el viejo, ese que tenia bipode y pesaba un huevo y como no, el veterano o veteranos que lo usaron antes Le lijaron el punto de mira y cuando ordenaban suspendan dolía la hostia, terminé con llagas en la mano, menos mal que ya en la policía aviación me tocó la z63 y la z70 además de la star de 9mm

@@gonzalillourbano1668 ya sé cuál dices era el CETME ese de hierro todo.lo bueno q tenía ese CETME es q aguantaba muchas atmósferas.mas de lo normal. La star de 9mm era una gran pistola.

Long fascist dictatorial regime, in a post-WW2 world that was loathe to do business with anything reminiscent of the axis. It wasn't just Spanish guns with a bad reputation, but Spanish everything, people included.

so then Ian was talking in the context of how people felt during the cold war because of a political bias towards their weapons . Hmmmmmm most of the time but not all the time people tend to applaud weapons of the enemy usually for being effective in combat at least after war but then again Spain was a US ally during the cold war soooo........... yeah I cant think of a similar example to this at all :P

Europe or US, because as Europe goes, (and as UnclePutte said) there were some long standing connotations to Spain, many, unfortunately untrue. Like this gun, they have a lot to offer, but few people willing to pass the fence for them, so to speak. Which, frankly, is stupid, in the end, today, it didn't serve anyone any good. Mah, we'd get in to politics and nobody likes those.

DeanmC261993 The varied manufacturers of Spain at one point or another simply copied other nations designs and sold their own versions in varied quality. Since they were imitations, some were sold cheap with lower quality, thus making them look inferior to the original manufacturer. This is despite them having had some very good quality guns and even some improvements of some models. I suppose the problem is that the reputation similar to China's quality control has persisted for decades after because of consumer word of mouth and angry competitors.

Politics are one thing but people is another very different. Spain is the 3th world army supply in the world,but not in small arms I think. Here you can´t get any weapons of any type (I like weapons but I´m very happy seeing it here not in real life) police and army takes whatever weapon,if cheaper the better. Now some police officer are in the G36 carbine,but It´s rare to see,we have not crazy shootings everyday.

Ditto

Sam Moon La mala reputación (más artificial que real) viene tanto de la leyenda negra secular, como de la ignorancia. Es cierto que, durante la primer guerra mundial, España vendió mucho de todo a las potencias beligerantes caro y de mala calidad (oportunismo que hemos pagado carísimo) Es posible que venga de ahí también. De todos modos, Alemania nos encargó durante la segunda guerra mundial muchas armas que son de primerísima calidad. Por algo sería. España lleva siglos haciendo armamento y con una historia militar y naval única en el mundo.

Well put ol' chap.

Que lastima en este país todo lo bueno se pierde.

Si, tuvieron que cerrar Sta. Bárbara y otras, y comprar fusiles de plástico de la OTAN como si aquí no se sabrían hacer las cosas. El CETME por ejemplo ha sido de los mejores fusiles de asalto del mundo. Ya me gustaría tener licencia para uno! ✋🏻⬆️🇪🇦

@@rubenfernandezcampos8648 no, Santa Barbara la malvendio Aznar al grupo General Dinamic, siguiendo las ordenes de sus amos jydios para desmantelar la industria de España, como con tantas otras empresas vendidas por el o Gonzalez antes. Dos traidores a España mas claro que el agua. Y asi hacerle un pedido de armamento para toda las FF. AA a su jefa la judia Rebekah Koshner, conocida actualmente como Angela Merkel. Creelo.

@@rubenfernandezcampos8648 lo ouedes comprar, el cetme c civil, yo tengo uno. Tienes que sacarte el oermiso de arma larga rayada, como para un rifle de caza mayor. En cualquier armeria te informan. Se venden a 700€,si no se han acabado. También se venden de segunda mano. Lo que manda cojines en este pais nuestro es que aqui valen ese precio, y en USA se venden a 300$,y eso que los tienen que llevar allí. Que baratos le han salido a la Dinamic. Nuestros putos politicos como siempre. Panda de chorizosl. No dejes pasar tiempo si estas interesado. Si te sacas el oermiso de armas a traves de una armeria, hazlo en una que les queden para vender, y reservalo o pagalo mientras tramitas los papeles, para asegurarte uno. Puede que queden pocos disponibles, porque somos muchos los aficionados a las armas que lo usamos en el ejercito y lo tenemos como una parte de nuestra Historia y vida. Tengo amigos que tienen varios CETMEs. A mi a veces me da gana de comprar alguno más, porque ya no se fabrican, pero tengo mas armas largas y se me amontonan. Nos pasa a muchos aficionados en este mundillo. Espero haberte informado. Un saludo.

@@esetoroenamoraodelaluna7022 Muchas gracias, saludos recíprocos.

not really, i have serve in spanish legion i can tell you that the best weapons we have are german ones HK G36 and MG74

@@jorgearias1387 Jorge Arias is southamerican not Spanish. Attack always Spain

No tienes ni idea de lo que dices

Do they still produce 9 Largo to this day?

It was most likely a Firestar