This is what annoys me about Ian Brown - when he tries to sing, he's OK. Not good, by any means - not even close - but passable. Whereas normally he shouts and is awful, ruining every song.
For a group of lads who had that cocky football swagger, they wrote some of the most beautiful songs of all time. I absolutely love the stone roses. Music that brings pure joy.
Watching this 30 years later brings so many memories back and a smile to my face. It was a fantastic time to be a teenager, I feel blessed. For an all too brief moment in time, they were the best band in the world.
@@blunty9907 sir, i guess i have to apologise for my posting. I don't want to delete it as a reminder to myself for how emotional i can gut when .. alcohol .. anyway .. this song is for you .. thank you for trying to make me be a better person .. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-f324Xs0C3hA.html
I'm 73, been a rock music fan since '58, and completely missed the Stone Roses back in the day, not sure they were ever a big deal in the States. If they were, it was prob just in L.A. and NYC. Love the sound of these guys, great players and fine songwriters, too. Last month I even bought myself a really cool Reni hat. Reni's obviously a genius, defined as somebody who does something extremely well which is absolutely unique. Hendrix is one of those, so are Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Captain Beefheart and even Paulie!
They didn't tour Stateside during their flash in the pan. King Monkey said the USA wasn't ready for the Roses. Then, they signed a behemoth deal with Geffen and disintegrated.
I'm about 20 years younger than you and Canadian. They weren't on mainstream radio, but all the alternative kids knew who they were in the early 90s. I don't know if mainstream rock stations ever played them, but in my world they were pretty huge. I remember people just waiting and wondering when they'd release their second album. I'm blown away by just how good their first album was. Most bands don't start so strong. It's hard to believe this recording is from 1989. They were so solid with their music, and nobody else was doing what they were yet.
Tony Wilson was certainly the last of a living generation, pure admiration for music, abstract, obscure, weird, new, waves and waves of encouragement for all new acts. A class act we sorely miss
I am not familiar with this band at all, this was the first track of theirs I’ve ever heard. It’s brilliant. I’m a drummer myself and watching that guy behind the kit is an absolute pleasure. Very loose and relaxed yet in complete control. Also nice to see someone utilise the bell on the hi-hat. What a performance!
Reni is the name of the drummer and is also the joint singer of the band (at least for this album), if you listen closely you will be able to hear there are two people singing.
This show aired on January 15th, 1989. The first single released from their debut album was 'Made of Stone' on 6th March, 1989. The album was released May 2nd, 1989. 'Waterfall' was released late in 1991 and first charted on January 11th, 1992; nearly 3 years after the TV appearance. It charted for 5 weeks and peaked at 27.
True , 99% of my record collection is jazz , electronic and African . I’m not a huge rock fan but this is one of my fave records of all time , transcends genres !
I'm a guitarist and a singer so I know that drummers are the butt of many a joke (not by me i hasten to add, but it is well known in musician circles), but Reni. Reni is the master. Effortless. Absolute genius. What a groove. If Reni set up his drum kit at Manc Apollo, I'd be there.
Let's be honest... "drummer jokes" isn't as big a thing as you imply it might be. If you hear more than 1 Drummer joke, you really should get new band members and friends.
I watched this that night, i was on the dole so i could go to bed when i liked I remember the feeling of witnessing something special, i could hear The Byrds, they reminded me of Love and Arthur Lee, of so much more. What a cracking tune and that drumming.❤
Mandy Khoo Roses were on a totally different level to Oasis. I liked Oasis a lot, but ultimately their music was basic. Noel's songs had soul and Liam's voice was great.The Roses at their best were more creative, better on their instruments and had more to say.
The Byrds and the psychedelic 60's sound was a big influence on the first album. They chose to go Led Zep style swamp rock on the second which was a mistake imo.
I've listened to this song and this album so much that its a part of my being. I feel privileged to have found this group when their debut album was released and I was just a teen in Toronto. Absolute gold.
Madchester was coined around 1990 and the Mondays, if you have to tag it with anything. Back then though it was just Indie as were the Smiths in the 80`s ect.
@@heaveauhu1335 As much as Oasis and Blur were influenced by 'Madchester' he's not far off the mark. The Charlatans and Inspiral Carpets are also notable.
Love how Squire’s guitar sounds exactly the same as on the studio recording. If there was any doubt as to which of his guitars he used on the album version, I think this answers it. Long live the Gretsch Country Gentleman
@@SevenOfNine-7 I’m sure I read that he used the pink Strat for the janglier stuff like She Bangs the Drums and Resurrection, but the Gretsch for heavier parts like I Wanna Be Adored. Then again, who knows coz there’s dozens of overdubs and layers on most of the songs
Heard this album for the first time in 1990 in Bavaria adventure training in the army.A lad from Birmingham lent his tape to me .It was a religious experience let me tell you .Not one bad song on there.I can remember it like yesterday.
Similar here - mate gave me a taped copy after I'd fallen in love with Elephant Stone. First listen I thought - pretty decent. Second listen I thought - actually really pretty good. Third listen - mind blown. As you say, not one bad track. I love a lot of music, but nothing ever came this close to perfection for me.
Feel the same way bout I Am the Resurrection. I can listen to that guitar forever and ever, pretty sure when I walk into Heaven that's what's gonna be playing. Squires knocked it out of the park on that track.
@@matthieusix3201 Gretsch Country Gentleman running into the Ibanez TS9, then fuzzface, then Ibanez CS9, into the alesis midiverb (for the echo in the outro) then into two Fender reverb amps
@@samConnellchannel that's amazing. i was not excpecting that much gear. the tone is incredible, can't found any guitarist having that so particular tone. thanks for the response
Whenever I think of them, this is what I hear and see in my head. I watched this when it was first broadcast. I miss not only those times and the band but Tony Wilson big enough to admit he made a mistake RIP Mr Manchester.
So many legends in this video including Tony H. Wilson. Reni for me is the best drummer of all time. His effortless command of the kit is mesmerising, and the sound is pure wonder and awe.
Have you heard Phil Collins on Selling England by the Pound? Different league. Perfectly accomplished drummer though Reni is, he's playing some very basic stuff in comparison.
This is without doubt the best Stone Roses video on youtube. What an amazing drumming performance by Reni! And the guitar was just note perfect. It´s amazing how many standout bands have been successful through great guitar/drummer combos...Zeppelin, The Who, Cream, Rolling Stones, Police, Nirvana.
So are we just going to pretend that bass players don't exist? Mani John Entwhistle Jon Paul Jones Geddy Lee Tina Weymouth Bedders Peter Hook John McVie John Deacon Pino Palladino Carol Kaye Bill Wyman Flea Jack Bruce Lemmy Mark King Duff McKagan Kim Gordon Sting Cliff Burton Mike Mills Kim Deal Geezer Butler Roger Waters Duck Dunn James Jamerson Suzi Quattro Adam Clayton Darryl Jones Steve Harris Gail Dorsey Mike Rutherford Aston Barrett
I could watch Reni play all day! If you were to pick your best lead singer, base guitarist, guitarist and drummer to ever come from Manchester Reni would be first pick, I will let you guys decide the other three band members!
...dont forget the Guitarist people...2 fender twin reverbs and a country gent creating a swirl of whirly loveliness and trance inducing waves...plus the other 3 = total escape and groovy dancing.
Easy to forget that The Roses really broke through via word of mouth. They hardly ever got played on the radio and did very little TV, but they were the band that the cool kids talked about. The hype was real.
He was mad that he couldn’t be the lead singer. He whined to Hooky, who produced Elephant Stone, that he was a better singer than Ian Brown. Maybe he was but not a better front man.
When he first joined in the mid 80's he was the star of the band. He played with Pete Townsend for a charity gig and PT said he was one of the best he'd seen.