The Stormlight Archive | Bondsmiths Are Overpowered (Part 1)

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So a while ago I made a video on the channel listing the most powerful Knights Radiant orders from the Stormlight Archive in order from weakest to strongest. At the time I was trying to make a list based on what we currently know of their power and who would win in a straight-up fight. And I’m pretty happy with the list based on those parameters. But when considering the actual full potential of any given Knights Radiant order, that list would have to be greatly altered.
Well this video began as an addendum to that video where I discuss the most powerful orders based on their pure potential. However shortly after I began thinking about the true potential of the different orders, something really stood out. The Bondsmiths were just too overpowered. All of the orders have some incredible potential, but the potential of the Bondsmiths put them far beyond any other Knights Radiant order in terms of power. So because of that I decided to change the focus of this video to really dig down and understand the true power and potential of the Bondsmiths.
Now don’t get me wrong, Kaladin could probably take Dalinar in a fight as things stand right now. However, that’s only because Dalinar is still very untrained in his abilities. If Dalinar were to completely master his Bondsmith capabilities, I fully believe that it would take a Shard or another Bondsmith to bring him down. I mean, I always say that AonDor is the most powerful Cosmere magic system, and as a system overall it still is, but a Bondsmith like Ishar could easily defeat any Elantrian hands down without even breaking a sweat.
But before we get into the nitty gritty details of how this all works, we need to first understand what makes a Bondsmith so powerful and how that power would be utilized...
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@Bobbalou 2 года назад

I'm just listening to this thinking about how we are discussing the science of magic in a fake world with surprisingly realistic properties that makes complete sense. This just amazes me

@RavensRants 2 года назад

The combined power of Sanderson's writing and a community of absolute nerds with Internet access 😂

@armandrenaudngaamounana2311 2 года назад

let's make a clap for Sir Sanderson.

@starmorpheus 2 года назад

@@armandrenaudngaamounana2311 let's make it clap for Sanderson 😏

@cesarkarim3352 2 года назад

This is the reason why ishar is so scary, he’s too powerful, he defeats 3 or 4 windrunners of the 3th ideal as if they were nothing

@RavensRants 2 года назад

Pretty much

@adrianvalladares7564 Год назад

AND he's only "average" in terms of combat ability among the Heralds. Absolutely insane, both this and them lmao

@joshhoehne8281 2 года назад

Thank goodness that there can only be three Bondsmiths, plus the Honorblade path, at a time. And it’s also good that, with the exception of Ishar, that they themselves are “bound”. I keep thinking of the line about a “Bondsmith unbound”!

@RavensRants 2 года назад

Yeah it would be a disaster if they had as many members as other orders

@kashdees9116 2 года назад

I think there will be at least 3 more bondsmiths potentially with Ba-Ado-Mishram and Sja-anat being the spren for them because the Stormfather is with stormlight the Nightwatcher is with lifelight and the Sibling is with towerlight the hybrid light of stormlight and lifelight. So it would make sense if voidlight had a bondsmith and the other hybrid lights like warlight the hybrid of stormlight and voidlight and then another bondsmith for the whatever hybrid light is for voidlight and lifelight and potentially a hybrid of all 3 lights. But still would be way less than the other orders lol

@l_p2980 2 года назад

I loooooove your content! It’s so informative and I enjoy the way you relay information. Road to 10K

@RavensRants 2 года назад

Lol I'm glad you enjoy the content 🙂

@givex2120 2 года назад

Great video! Was wondering about Bondsmiths and their powers recently, and they seriously are just crazy op. Just one thing, Fortune is not the only way to access foresight. All foresight is a result of the Spiritual Realm and Fortune is just one of the ways to access it as far as we know. Personally, I'd probably explain Fortune as the ability to see (through the Spiritual Realm) and/or manipulate probability (related to you, not in general) in some way. Anyways definitely looking forward to the second part ;)

@RavensRants 2 года назад

I like the way you see it 🤔

@noelhann5262 2 года назад

I wonder who would win in a fight between Kaladin and Dalinar before either of them were knights radiant and without shards. The Blackthorn vs the spearman who killed a shardbearer.

@DreadPyriteBob Год назад

I’d give Dalinar the edge with the “age and cunning” category, though it would be VERY close

@rohit_7777 3 месяца назад

I'll go with Kaladin. The spears has a better range and Kaladin seems more like a natural genius with his weapon than anyone else in the series. Dalinar had thrill, but Kaladin also has something similar to (feeding your emotions to the flame from the wheel of time). Kal has a different kind of immersion which makes him cool headed in the thick of a fight. And he can somehow anticipate opponents attacks which doesn't seem to be related to surge binding.

@Fallout3131 2 года назад

This shall be a crucial motivator in finding the leader of my armies.

@dphunk87 2 года назад

This is some 400 level Cosmere/Stormlight right here..thank you my good scholar.

@RavensRants 2 года назад

I aim to please 😅

@myexistenceoffendsmany...329 2 года назад

Good videos. I'll subscribe.

@k-majik 2 года назад

This was a great video, I am looking forward to seeing the Bondsmith unchained, sparks are going to fly. I'm a bit confused about how your definition of Fortune would work in Feruchemy, however - how would you store or tap your 'timeline' do you reckon?

@RavensRants 2 года назад

Think about how Renarin's power works. He taps into Fortune to see potential futures. And with Atium you tap into Fortune to see potential futures as well. So doing it with Feruchemy would likely be something like this. The more you store and then tap, the further or more clearly you can see ahead. How it would work exactly is up to Brandon, but that's my theory. I don't believe that fortune = luck in the Cosmere like some people think. Fortune is your potential timeline. The more you tap into it, the more you'll see of the future (and likely the more you'll see the most likely timeline over the less likely ones).

@k-majik 2 года назад

@@RavensRants I really like that theory, that does sound better than luck more broadly. What do you think the effect would be when you're storing Fortune, what would you lose?

@adrianmontoya1834 2 года назад

Great videos, keep it up!! I've read Mistborn era 1 & 2, Elantris, Warbreaker, Arcanium Unbounded, and Stormlight. I still have to do White Sands and Skyward but I'm on my way!!!

@RavensRants 2 года назад

Lol awesome

@RunningOnAutopilot Год назад

This is pretty realistic cause IRL some things are just better EX: MMA beats everything else except in street fights no rules in which Krava Maga wins (unless you have a weapon the best one being gun)

@SnakeAndTurtleQigong 11 месяцев назад

❤

@melvinklark4088 2 года назад

What would an bondsmith do agianst an identity compounder?

@RavensRants 2 года назад

*Brain explodes*

@scibanana3542 Год назад

Off topic, but I'd just like to point out that the Lord Ruler (or any other full Feruchemist and mistborn) would be _stupidly_ overpowered. And I mean aside from immortality and near-invincibility. Let me put it this way: So you know how compounding works, right? Person can both burn a metal and draw upon a metalmind of the same material. Thus allows them to use allomancy as a supplement to feruchemy. For example, Miles Hundredlives could burn gold and get the same effect as drawing from a gold metalmind. In other words, his metalminds would be perpetually full so long as he held gold. Here's the thing: nicrosil metalminds store Investiture. So if you were to compound nicrosil, you'd have effectively unlimited Investiture... We know that raw Investiture can be used as a supplement for metals in allomancy; Vin lent her power as Preservation directly to Elend at the Battle of Hasthin. So while compounding nicrosil on it's own would be effectively useless, combine it with other allomantic powers... Or say, a Nahel bond (we know this is possible, because Hoid)...

@ethanbrinkman3401 2 года назад

That might be why there are only three bondsmiths at a time

@cesarkarim3352 2 года назад

Exactly, and now there are no longer the restrictions that Honor placed on bondsmiths

@RavensRants 2 года назад

I have a theory that Unmade could make Bondsmiths potentially

@givex2120 2 года назад

@@RavensRants Yes! I agree with you on that one. They were as essential to Roshar pre unmaking (and still are) as the current Bondsmith Spren and it makes sense that Odium would like to see them on their side (also RoW kinda makes this theory even more possible I guess)

@joshuacredeur5592 Год назад

To be fair your argument that the three spiritual aspects hinges on connection can be made for identity and fortune as well. For instance If identity were key you could then say it's who you are at your core that determines your connections and fortune by way of you simply being you. If fortune were the main building block you could simply say your identity and connections are all a part of your over all fortune. I say all of that to propose that they are the three aspects because they balance each other, more of a wheel then a pyramid in this veiw.

@connoraugustine2127 2 года назад

Ok, so we know that a bomdsmith can steal part of someone's spirit web, but I wonder if they could also copy a spiritual aspect as well. Like ferruchemical powers for instance.

@RavensRants 2 года назад

I don't think they can steal something like Feruchemy. Stealing a bind with a Spren is probably far easier than stealing that part of someone's identity. You'd have better luck changing your own spiritweb to make you a Feruchemist. Or just use Hemalurgy 😂

@connoraugustine2127 2 года назад

@@RavensRants imagine though, hemalurgy without giving shards the ability to influence you.

@69Schalk 2 года назад

Yes I will subscribe, are you in gauteng we could organise a Sanderfest ^.^

@RavensRants 2 года назад

Lol a South African Sanderfest would be awesome, but unfortunately I'm in Cape Town. So quite far from Gauteng 😅

@armandrenaudngaamounana2311 2 года назад

Bondsmiths are litteral GODS, even moreso now that Honor is dead.

@bendecius4976 Год назад

Bondsmiths if I understand correctly are the strongest casters in all of the cosmere, the power of a bondsmith is the ability to create realities.

@Matthew-oe8tb 2 года назад

Naw they arnt, Old dalinar is just on his way to becoming the new honor, thats my prediction. Because it never says what specifically happened to honors power which cant be destroyed...it lives on.

@1926PlovdivCity 2 года назад

Spoiler!!!!!!!!!! I love how at the end Dalinar and his crew got destroyd from a True bondsmith. Btw i still dont get what really happend to Odium.... soooo make a video mb?

@RavensRants 2 года назад

You mean what happened to Odium at the end of RoW?

@1926PlovdivCity 2 года назад

@@RavensRants yes at the end he died and the next Odium was..... OMG what was hes name Tera.... help me with the rest of the name. So he died cuz Seth stabd him with the sword but the he killd Odium 😵 what?!?!?!?!?!

@RavensRants 2 года назад

Ah I see where you got confused. So Taravangian had Nightblood when Szeth was there. Odium was busy pulling Taravangian into a vision where they could communicate. But Odium is more physically in that vision than Taravangian was and thus could be hurt. Now Nightblood destroyed Rayse, the human vessel that held the Shard of Odium (Mistborn spoiler: Sazed, for example, is the Vessel of the Shard of Harmony). So without the Vessel, the power of the Shard was just floating around looking for a host since it can't do anything without a Vessel. It called out to Taravangian who took it and became the new Vessel of the Shard of Odium. Therefore Taravangian is now Odium. Make sense?

@1926PlovdivCity 2 года назад

@@RavensRants thanks for that but i get that how he got the sword is the problem form me i dont get it did the sword kill Odium to cuz he is "evil" or how did that happen. Btw this not what we call this sword us Roshar 😏😏😏😏😏

@RavensRants 2 года назад

Nightblood feeds on Investiture. So when Odium was stabbed it ate all the Investiture in the body of the Vessel first, but the Shard itself was too big and powerful to be consumed. So Nightblood got "full" before it could affect the Shard, but after it already killed the Vessel.

@ryanratchford2530 2 года назад

I find the magic of bond smiths (& surge binding in general) far less interesting than allomancy or awakening because it’s just so undefined & soft (which is just not as fun to think about-feels like they can just do whatever Brandon needs them to do)

@RavensRants 2 года назад

I get you, but as of RoW, it seems Brandon is beginning to expand on it more. I think that Surgebinding will one day be just as hard as Allomancy, but it will take us a couple of books to get to that level of understanding. And it makes sense to not reveal how the magic works entirely within the first half of a series. It leaves nothing to be discovered by readers for the rest of the books. So he's likely slowly revealing everything. It will just take some time, but one day we'll understand Surgebinding like we do Allomancy