Keg DUH, we live in 2019, we’ve seen what drummers can do by now. but we’re talking about someone who made music around the 60’s. Think of another band at the time to incorporate Bossa Nova into a popular Rock song. John Densmore deserves more credit than he receives.
@@Lordkeggles Depends on what. He, as Ringo in the past did, has come up with drum lines that suited the music that was being presented to him. That is a talent many drummers fail to deliver.
Absolutely. Ray, John and Robbie were/are all underrated, immensely talented musicians. They each understood that Jim Morrison was the band's frontman. And Jim never let that go to his head in terms of him being thought of as virtually the whole of The Doors. However, in my opinion, it wasn't until after Jim Morrison died that Robbie, John and Ray began receiving proper recognition for their musicianship.
+KillerInstinct69 in his prime YES, but on this video all Ray can manage are simplified watered down versions of his baselines and inaccurate as well, but he was getting on abit when this was filmed , the danger is that budding keyboardists will see this and think, aha that is how you play it!!! it is Simple :P
You are right, something happened with him with the years, then they began to use a bassist on live shows. He was a very good keyboardist, and transformed blues into something new, refreshing, unique sound and feel. But every good blues or jazz piano player should have the ability to play more intricate left hand bass lines. And yes I love Ray.
Eu falo pouco Portuguesa, falo Español y Inglés, se entiende brasileiros, Doors son um grupo fantastico! Bossa nova da fundación de um canto solido en Rock, and it still kills....
they mixed several styles and up until today they sound unique... fresh, still on.... they didn't copy musical styles... they were authentic... and nowadays are loved by a bunch of people
Bullshit. The "stealing" the Doors did was at worse petty theft; actually it was closer to simply being influenced than to actual stealing. But the stealing so-called artists do today is TRUE theft.
@@justanothergaymingchannel161 The two songs are nothing alike, and you fucking know it. You can find similarities between any two songs if you look hard enough--rock music and music in general have a limited number of elements and devices that all songs draw upon. But you and I both KNOW when somebody's plagiarizing and when he's not. It's like when the Supreme Court Justice talked about pornography: "I can't define pornography but I know it when I see it." Likewise for plagiarism--you know it when you see or hear it.
@@DMSProduktions That's moronic. That's like saying somebody can't plagiarize a book because the author doesn't own the words or letters he uses. Don't try to rationalize theft.
The Doors In retrospect: Jim Morrison A great front man nobody has that voice or unpredictability. As far as Drummers in the 1960's and 1970's WTF! John Densmore is freaking God. He is not just a drummer but a phenomenal percussionist. Ray Manzarek play the bass chords on that little piano bass and keep time with Densmore and then run away with those organ rifts he is not talented man he is a freaking genius! Robby Kreiger so underrated as a guitarist he is a monster of energy!
@@joejones9520maybe that made the Doors sound more tiny live. The finger-style guitar and the lack of an actual bass guitar made them sound more "treble" compared to other bands of the era. I love them though!
well yes, but i also agree that if you are going to "steal" then you must do it well and evolve musically beyond that. The Doors did just that, but groups like One Direction stole shit blatantly because they can't write anything better.
Yeah well it was like a well oiled machine people may have come to see Jims stage antics but if the music sucked they would not have sold millions of records.
Ray is such a monster. Throw down a quad drenched solo while you hold down the melody with a bass line weave as you casually explain the origin of the song, where it came from and where it's going. Master class in multi tasking. Pay attention, this is how it's done. 👾
Densmore was great on those drums. Then there was Manzarek on those keyboards, and Robby Krieger on guitar. Finally the genius of Jim Morrison. This number had real movement.
I feel that way about Jimi and Janis too. It is odd that the most unreal people of that time all died around the same time and in mysterious and accidental ways.
What's amazing about Morrison, is that he had no vocal training, he told his father that he was going to be the singer of a rock band. He mentioned..'what, you never..sang in your life, and now, you're going to sing in a rock band..?
I often ponder, what was it about the Doors that made me sit up and pay attention for a lifetime. Now it hits me, These boys were philosophers first, then they put poetry to music.
densmore's drumming on this song is succinct fury. he drives this song like grand prix LA...sharp curves, stops, accelerated straight aways. they all did a great job on this song, but john is the crucial component in this one. imo, of all the sub 5 min songs they ever did, this was john's finest moment.
Even listening to it 55 years later still sounds fresh the way it opens with that primal energy and urgency of the percussion combined with hypnotic bass and guitar that sounds like it's about to propel you into another stratosphere along with the raw vocals. If you only ever heard one track to sum up what the Doors' and in particular Jim Morrison was originally all about this is it.
How could it be that four dudes, each brilliant in his own music world, end up in a rock and roll band? If you read about each of these dudes they have one thing in common. Each had a very different music background. Yet, they made some awesome rock and roll songs that still sound great 50 years later.
That is precisely why they have had such longevity. There's no other band like them or sounds remotely close to them, not in the past 53 years nor 53 more. Morrison, Manzarek, Krieger and Densmore are a once in a lifetime tour de force such as their British counterparts The Beatles and Pink Floyd were for their respective outputs.
Jim Morisson was greatest story teller in music . A charismatic character. This combined with John Densmore brilliance along Ray's and Rick's chemistry ! You got The Doors ! They will never be forgotten.
I started listening to The Doors when I was 16, and fell head over heels for these guys. I am about to turn 45 and they are still easily my favorite band. They have music- feeling, that can not be topped. If I am fortunate enough to live into my 80's, I bet they will still be my favorite band. They were, ARE amazing.
Jim was a gift from the Gods! No formal voice lessons, no formal music training. It spewed beautifully from his mouth, everybody else followed in and played around him. That is what made it great. When he got up and sang it didn't matter how fucked up he was, the slurred words fell from his mouth like gold upon the ground and everybody would come from far and gather around. See him spin and dance in the air, shaking his head and thrashing his hair.
please. He was an average singer, who hooked up with great musicians. He got drunk on stage and sang and it stirred up controversy. This guy is seriously over hyped by his fans. I think the other 3 really get shafted in history. Robbie wrote a lot of their hit songs along with his fantastic guitar riffs.. Ray was an amazing piano player, this guy could play that thing like Hendrix with the guitar. Desmore was was a very versatile drummer.
One of the things that you have to understand about this song and this album - and the time period is the Hi Fidelity aspect. In stereo. For many of us, myself included, this is the first time we heard rock or any kind of music on good stereo systems. The equipment we were listening on up until that time was handheld Japanese transistor radios or am car radios in mono, with very poor fidelity. Or a television with one 5 inch speaker I still remember the day in about 67, I was 14, when I went over to my friend's house and he played break on through on the first good stereo system I ever heard. It blew my mind. I was astonished. I could not believe how fantastic it sounded. All we had was cell phone quality audio up until that point, and then here is the Doors man, with big stereo speakers, rattling the walls. You really have to know the time period in order to appreciate what happened with this music.
If anyone but the Doors had posted this the youtube mob would have been posting messages about how they get it all wrong when they explain how it was played.
Totally agree with Perry Farrel on the Sinatra similarities. I could see Sinatra singing "Riders on the Storm", or practically anything off of the first album. Jim was a crooner.
Slawos85...Me too, well 50% mothers side. She convinced me to play accordion in 1963 which I did, like her father. I really wanted to play guitar. However, I still play accordion and piano and a little guitar. I'm thinking about a sax to break things up a bit now that I'm retired. Doors are my #1 group although I love all kinds of music.
Break on through to the other side Travel Past where Life and Death Collide----- The Greatest Band That Ever Stepped into a Studio Together-- The Whole World LOVES THE DOORS!!!! Peace
When they started recording the different beats & different ways of playing. 1967 in a way was a time of change for music. Jim also sang in a masculine way. That's why he's to be admired as a male vocalist. Also making reference to the type of MIC that Frank Sinatra used. Jim Morrison might of been flamboyant in life style. He was intelligent & well informed about current events.
One of the most creative and expressive drummers in rock. I play everything but percussion but I hear how inventive he is. Never really understood how amazing he was/is until a few years ago. Accenting Jim's lyrics are phenomenal. I can dig it. Can you dig it?
They had their own special way of "waking and shaking": people up " . getting them to listen. Nobody rocks like the Doors and Jim. . Their legendary message, style and the feeling they leave people with will always ensure they have plenty of fans, ,many yet to be conceived. Very very special lives, Robbie John and Ray still rock and I love you. . .
I love the Doors. You can’t put them in any one genre, they truly experimented and pushed limits. The darkness is what caught my attention ...and I was in love....
I was only 9 yrs old when Light My Fire hit the charts. For some reason, I fell in love with Jim's singing style, and I got my parents to get me the 45 (53 cents?). After I heard the flip side (The Crystal Ship), I couldn't stop playing it.
Jim Ladd....man...he was a phenomenal DJ in the 90's for me. He'd play classic albums in their entirety on Friday nights. Great way to get to know bands that you only knew a song or two.
Let me tell you about heart ache and the loss of god wandering and wandering in hopeless night, out here in the perimeter there are no stars out here we is stoned immaculate-Jim Morrison
At the tender age of 16 The Doors was a gateway 'drug' to me in choosing my taste in music and attitudes in other aspects of life. Over the fifty plus years since, I have come to know an exceedingly wide variety of music, but my first 'experience' in feeling music was when I heard my first Doors album. "Break on Through" was a personal anthem to me. Very soon after I came to appreciate Jimi Hendrix, Clapton, Stones etc., but Jim Morrison started it all.
It's funny to hear the story that Jim was a fan of Frank Sinatra, because there is also the story of Frank Sinatra getting very upset when he was listening to Light my Fire on the radios, because he thought the music was crap.
Hell yep😊 great bunch of intelligent musicians who have been around since I was a kid and I heard my older brothers Doors” tribute band play in our recreation room! Loudddddd! My first real exposure to real rock n roll. So I forever thank my brother for my great taste!😊
Apples and oranges. Both bands were and amazing and revolutionary. But the Beatles put out sgt. peppers a few months after the Doors debut. And sgt. peppers changed the way music was recorded in the studio forever. I’m not taking anything away from the doors. Just noting this fact.
This is how great music is made. Little Ray Charles. Little Bosa Nova (similar to the beat in What'd I say, but not the same), Guitar from a different song, Vocals influenced by Frank Sinatra. Some distortion and a little more power than all those other influences. Phenomenal. I think modern music misses the collaboration of a band. Each member was trying to sound like a different thing. As a result, you sound like nothing. You sound original.
Olivia Ball. I was 17 when I bought the First Doors record...I could NOT BELIEVE what I was hearing! The Sound and the Movement ! And I came from a jazz background. Still my favorite record.
EVERY guitarist has a handful of riffs and licks they learned from their influences. It's impossible not to subconsciously have them be part of your repertoire. So I agree even though it sounds like I don't ; )
I was the engineer that recorded the music for the doc. I used all the original mics from the 60's recorded at Capital records.Bruce Botnick told me how he had recorded Densmore;s drums. My biggest challenge was the rental kit he used had new skins on it and had not been tuned. Thank God I knew how to tune drums, but it was stressful. I asked Densmore if he was going to get together with the other members for a reunion, he said "Don't think that's going to happen, I'm suing the F@#kers" So many stories about that crazy documentary, Jim Morrison's ghost was everywhere. Just remember, The Doors were all about celebrating the chaos, Jim brought it in spades.
People should remember that Jim Morrison was only 1/4 of The Doors, each member of The Doors was as important as the next, without all of them together, you'd have nothing, great video highlighting this.
