The Story of The Terminator (1984) 

Heavily agreed!

The only other 2-hit combo that lethal was Tyson's hook to the stomach/uppercut to the head.

Agreed

Totally agree! I can never choose one over the other.

​@@mochaamlnn facts, absolute facts

Oh without doubt! Terminator, along with Alien, Predator & Robocop are the very definition of ICONIC

Could not agree more!

It's still my favorite of the series.

Agreed. Alot of people say T2 is the best. But for me it's the gritty horror of T1. Tech Noir is just brilliant.

​@@mistermatix8241 Couldn't agree more. The 80's were magic at the cinema.

Absolutely. A real Masterpiece. Magical. 🤍

@@topfitnessssss it truly is, lust like Predator, Alien, and The Thing.

It's from the DVD set.

I like Ramen noodles

Same, and I'd go as far as to say it's in the top ten (maybe top five) greatest movies of all time. I always put this movie and T2 together because I think it works best as one long narrative. The other movies are decent and are good for fleshing out the world, but the first two are really all that matters in my mind.

Aliens is also awesome better than the 1st

FACT CHECKED....IT WAS A BLACK LADY THAT WROTE THE TERMINATOR.. IT WAS STOLEN..

Yep. Couldn't agree more. He's Super underrated at this point in time. Like history forgot him sadly

Same as In tombstone. He's so underrated . Kilmer, Russell, and Boothe get all the credit

Yea he actually does such a good job in everything I've seen him in - IDK why he fell out of favor with Hollywood, but his legacy is secure as the male lead in some of the greatest movies of the last century.

@@hansolo631 Alcoholism and health problems.

Especially in the movie theaters in the 80s.

way ahead of its time.

I was on a business trip with my dad…went to see it with zero expectations. Had no idea it even existed. Imagine the shock. Same happened with The Matrix. Had no idea it existed. Shocked.

Just smoke some pot, and it'll be like you see it with 3D-glasses 😀

I'd have loved to see T1 on the cinema, I can only DREAM of the audience response at the Factory Chase sequence on the big screen first time round!

Yeah It's somewhat a horror movie in disguise.

Sounds like they're talking about you at the taco bell drive thru and finding out they're out of burritos.

@@Dan-di9jd funny because I don’t even really eat Taco Bell I’m also less than 130lbs more around 122 and at 5’5 that’s well within the range for my height.

Many people say that about their neighbour.

Hell yeah. Film scores are often ignored even though their score outlasts other aspects like dialect or cinematography. I don’t even remember the “Last of the Mohicans” plot, but that damn soundtrack will always play in my head.

Fantastic music,played a big part in the movie

I tripped acid for the first time( and last) and listened to the T1 soundtrack and had one of the worst experiences of my life hahahahah thanks terminator !!!!

I still listen to it to this day...

Wonder how he went from music composition to goalkeeping for Sours...🤔

true, except for us 10 year olds who had older brothers that were aspiring body builders, that means we had already watched Pumping Iron a couple of years earlier on home video along with our brothers ; ) So I was already used to the alien build, but it was great fun to see it put to use in this high intensity thriller. I was only 9 or 10 so I wasn't sure whether Arnold was being allowed to really kill people in those scenes with his bare hands lol. I hadn't yet wrapped my head around the whole special effects gore angle.

very good point.

Yup, this was back when we collectively agreed that Hollywood couldn't ask normal actors to take insane amounts of steroids for roles, so they had to find existing juiceheads and try to teach them to act. I think it's fine that mainstream actors are all bulking up for superhero roles now, but it creeps me out how many of the male leads on teen shows are doing the same. I know the actors are in their 20s, but it's still such a weird body image to push on 16-year-olds.

Conan the Barbarian came out two years prior..

Lou Frerrigno is only one I can come with..

Certainly

i have it on my phone music library

Terminator saying f you asshole is low key hilarious

Tell that to those two hacks Siskel and Ebert. They were a joke.

Alien was good toi

@@guntertorfs6486 😂"Siskel and Ebert!" Yes that was their saying wasn't it. Absolute Muppets agreed!

@@salvitoripopadillo4539 I'm with you! The original Terminator was a whole new ball game in 1984. Most of us who saw it for the first time when it was new, were rivetted. Nothing like it had come before it & the story line was bombshell disturbing! It may look a little clunky now, since technology has marched on, but back in '84 Terminator was supremely effective. The only other concept to relentlessly seek to destroy humanity in such a determined way is based in Israel.

I did.. and so loved it! I was 13 & I had no idea. Was amazing at that time.

This franchise is why I still avoid trailers like the plague. I went into this completely blind (owing to not being alive when it was released, lol) and it blew my mind. Saw the sequel after seeing all the trailers, and while it's obviously an *incredible* film (my fave of the franchise), I couldn't stop thinking how much better it would have been if the trailers didn't spoil the reveal that Arnold was now the good guy.

I watched on VHS in 1987 with no idea of what I was going to watch. Blown away. Think I watched it a couple of more times before I took the tape back.

That was my experience seeing it on TV as a kid in the 90s. For some reason, maybe due to the cultural impact of the sequel, I thought the Terminator would be a good guy

man that would have been an insane experience in the theaters... too bad i wasn't born yet

You were high weren't you?

@@randyschwaggins hahahaha -- I don't remember well -- the 80s are a big blur for me...

who wasnt in the 80s@@randyschwaggins

I was in shopping last week & the bill (£)19.84 ... I said to the young lady " I remember it ...unfortunately ", She replied "best year for music "..."best year for films..." I couldn't think of much to say even after being promoted by " Ghostbusters" .... Without cheating I've tried recalling 'highlights of 1984' ( not the film ' 1984 ' ) ...& there is not a lot I want to revisit .

In was in high school when this released, out on a random Tuesday night with my gf, we saw this movie, I was so blown away I was in school the next day talking the film up to my friends, and back on Friday night to watch the movie again

Red dawn? Is that the one advertised on the terminator VHS with Patrick swayze and Jennifer Jason Leigh? I always thought it was called steal dawn

define... that's a stretch, but they are great films. As for defining... Terminator, that one definitely. First Blood, definitely not... but Rambo 2 or 3, absolutely. Red Dawn was all but forgotten within a year of its release for its outright cringy Cold War propaganda. However, many of the actors in Red Dawn went on to star in some 80's defining Brat Pack movies. Not sure which 3 I'd pick... maybe Rocky 3, Die Hard, Mad Max 2 or 3. No my kind of films tho'. My 3 favorites are probably Breakfast Club, Lost Boys & Terminator. God I miss the 80's.

Red Dawn is the shittiest movie ever.

@@yumallah LOL, ya, 100% propaganda misinformation... seemingly written and directed by monkeys.

You deserve a medal.

Lucky! It would have been an awesome date movie with the right kind of girl.

What did you say after every movie? "I'll be back!" ?

@@KlausBahnhof lets just say she was raised in a strict Catholic home, and was away from home for the first time in her freshman year in college. Life was good.

I've never seen a movie 6 times. I max out at 4.

He has a vision of what he wants on the screen and gets it done by hook, or crook. It shows in the quality of his movies too.

Good catch. Cameron seems like a contradiction in how he acknowledges all that we might fear about our own technological creations, whether they enslave us by violence or by seduction. But he also enthusiastically adapts and promotes any upcoming tech for his work and to save the planet or whatever. The cultural technocrats are schizophrenic in that sense.

​@@katskillz Cameron is so obsessed with technology, he would absolutely get on his knees and blow the first Terminator he ever encountered.

Never caught that. Nice

I don't know if there was any intentional subtext going on there but it's easy to forget what a big deal a pager was in 1984. In the early 90s one of the first big moments on the first season of The Real World was the small town girl joking about the black chick's beeper going off and asking if she sold drugs. I got one in 94 and got the same question a few times, including from cops. Only doctors and dealers had them in the 80s. I don't think dealers even had them in 84. By the late 90s children had them. They came in handy a lot despite being so primitive, but were indeed one small step for man toward the inevitable giant leap for matrix mankind.

Ha I bet we are all watching this on a phone! Then we will sit watching more nonsense for the next 5 hours!

Back in the 1950s, sci-fi and horror movies were all the rage with teen audiences. If you were able to send The Terminator movie back in time to that decade, I could guarantee the audiences would shit their pants watching it and having nightmares. I'd love it.

Why I wish they left that deleted dream sequence between Sarah and Kyle in the sequel.

I'm hearing really good things about Godzilla Minus One in that it's the story that makes it but it still has the spectacle and only cost $10Million. Lessons to be learned there. I've not seen it yet but as a fan I'm looking forward to it. I think there are some good low budget features out there but they're not so visible. It's by luck or by word of mouth over someone else's luck that I stumble onto things particularly with streaming overload. Half of the films I saw in the last 5 years that I would rate as extremely good were on Netflix and one was just a random free movie on RU-vid which was the best one I saw in a whole 2 weeks off work movie watching over Xmas.

Working with one right now as PM/actor ;)

I don't know if you watched the interview where he stated that with how the world is now he would never have made it.

When I was a kid I used to go to video rental stores. The Terminator was ALWAYS located in the “Horror” section.

@@tommym321 right on

Totally agree. When people ask me what's the best horror film it's hard for me to select a straight horror film that has the impact of other genre films with horror elements. People might argue for the Exorcist or Halloween, personally I'd pick The Omen over both of those. But within other genres I'd class these examples as horror films to a large degree and say they're great ones: Terminator, Jaws, Alien, The Thing, Silence of The lambs. The first 4 I mentioned all have the kill 'em off one by one element of slasher movies.

@@tommym321 that's very odd.

I was nine also at the time and every time the Terminator was shown in the movie when he was nothing but metal after the car crash seen it gave me the same scare as I got when watching the Incredible Hulk when he changed from Bruce Banner

I've always considered this film primarily a love story. And while I definitely loved that love story when I was younger (mainly because Linda Hamilton and Michael Biehn are both hot AF), I find it more creepy as I've gotten older. Kyle Reese's monologue about always loving Sarah comes off as weirdly serial killer-esque. I think it's because Michael Biehn delivers it with this bizarre anger and blame towards Sarah. It sort of reminds me of every angry incel rant I've ever read or heard. 😂

I loved that detail also.

I think Incel behaviour is also half how it's recieved. If a girl is into the guy then his behavior is romantic or she's blinded by love. Or she's not into. Him and then he's a total creep. In either scenario he's the same and she just feels different lol

@@amityislandchum Your statement is understandable in todays time but in Kyle Reeves dystopian apocalypse is a very grim future and he was staring at the only picture of a time when the world was peaceful. Plus Sarah Conner was young and very pretty. The photo given to him by non other than his son John Connor who is his much older commanding officer, for one purpose, to go back in time and find her to protect her. It is the only thing he must do. As human, when you are attach to something for very long as Kyle Reeve had with a picture of Sarah Connor, you are going to be fond of it. In this case he fell in love with her. John Connor knew what he was doing. 😉

It doesn't come close to being one of the best love stories put into film. The movie that does is the one titled 'Star Man' which was released in cinemas in the same year as Terminator; it succeeds as a romance genre and Sci-Fi genre.

Exacrtly! 👍 I loved T2, but the moment when a Terminator turns to a child and says "Now I understand why you cry" (or words to that effect) just ruined it for me... A Terminator is an unstoppable killing machine, not one to dispense tissues every time a kid cries.... 😞 Arnie ruled in Terminator 1. It was dark, it was violent, it was scary, and had you on the edge of your seat the whole way, and he exuded power. It was just a tense rollercoaster of unhinged power and brutality, a light and tense relationship, and then more brutal power; as a movie, it was as unstoppable as the Terminator itself! 😉

It really is less of a narrative and more of a fever dream, exactly as it was conceived. Dreams rarely have discernible narrative structure when recalled after the fact-they are a window into the subconscious, where past/present/future all exist at once. IMO The Terminator represents 1984 America’s (and beyond) subconscious fear of the cold, unrelenting progress of technology and its impact on their future. The Cold War/nuclear annihilation. The first electric cerebrations of real artificial intelligence. Replacement of labor by machine. Film as a medium can be used to tell a story in a traditional way, but I think in The Terminator it is used not only as a medium/vehicle for the script, but also in that way that only film can be used, to reflect our subconscious back to us as the pure unadulterated image, crystalline polychrome emotion. What the film leaves us with is like the recall of a nightmare, a raw moving image divorced from linear time, of palpable fear, the fear of unimpeded technological progress, of the brutal, cold, relentless onslaught of time itself, of the limits and vulnerability of our humanity, and mankind’s drive to exterminate itself as a species through its own cold, unbridled ambition.

T2 has scope. T1 has focus; and it will not stop until you are _dead._

That's exactly why I love it. T1 is a horror movie, and an effective one at that.

​@@stevesstuff1450because he's a good terminator this time.

Maybe controversial, but if they could redo the special effects for the last scenes with the endoskeleton, I think that might help it a lot

Practical effects are sooo much more creative and eye grabbing than cgi.. I appreciate it soo much more.

@@jeremythomas5568 practical and cgi can coexist. Have the practical there for physical presence then clean up with cgi to make the practical pop just alil more.

GCI is nearly free vs. practical effects. So they use it always too much. Thankfully mostly used in superhero movies so no harm done. Easy to skip something without any heart and just money grab from the kids parents.

@@ZeroOmega-vg8nq This is the way.

Agreed. Not only that, the first movie is a somewhat serious horror movie, while the second is more of an action movie.

They never needed to make any sequels, just like Blade Runner and The Thing. The reason these movies worked so well was that the left you with unanswered questions. That was the whole point of these films, and making sequels were unwarranted. Aliens works, but it could have been a Universe on itself. Not many sequels better the OGs, Star Trek 2 works, Superman 2 (but that was filmed at the same time) a few others, but all these sequels and they end up ruining a simple original film.

It's so hard to convince my 12 year old self that is true but 44 year old me cannot deny it. There's a ton of cool shit in 2 that wouldn't exist if 1 wasn't way the fuck ahead of its time.

This, Alien, and Predator. Each sci-fi in setting and tools, but horror at their core.

agreed a humanoid cyborg goin round killing everybody jus to find 1 target. he was downright brutal in the 1st movie n back then Arnold literally scared the shit out of me. he might be the main reason i had a phobia of robots.

It's an overall better film than the sequel

Same I prefered 2 as a kid but I can't remember last time I watched it and watch 1 a few times a year

The second is an action movie, the first one was a proper hit.

Same

that's the trick. you like it because of T2. overlooking all its silly cheap production

😂

What are you looking at?

The game Terminator Resistance had a full-length, high quality version of the track in its files, so it's out there now

agree, there's something unbelievably chilling about that song when it dissolves into reverb and Fiedel's score takes over

the songs are on this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HXKdis0Vhjk.html

It's inevitable ...

@@LaytonEversaul haha nice! 🎉

@@LaytonEversaul Great, awesome videos man, I think they should have just stopped after Terminator 2, the rest of the movies were mixed to say the lease.

HE'LL BE BACK with "T2"😜....

Miss 80s life, the movies, the VHS stuff and many more

12:18 i had no idea Arnold was 36-37 by the time he was selected, wow he got a late start in his movie career, but after T1, his career took off instantly: 1985 Commando, 1986 Predator, 1987 The Running Man...

@@hectorlopez1069 same bro. Such a simple time

@@Defender78 Arnold was and is the greatest movies star of all time imo.

Such 80's parenting to have a 5 year old watch a violent r-rated movie 😂😂😂

78 million off of a 6 million dollar budget

Ill Be Bachhhh

Sure, but it cannot be understated what an abusive asshole James Cameron is. Dude has literally almost killed dozens of actors and crew members, and he is notoriously abusive to women... Which is extra ironic considering HE OWES HIS ENTIRE CAREER TO A WOMAN.

T2 is superior in all respects but I agree, this is my favourite of the franchise. I saw it first at 13 or 14. That "There's a storm coming" / "I know" scene really stayed with me. Although we were both at that incredibly impressionable age....which often overrides logic & other intellectual considerations. Btw, I simply can't imagine OJ playing an emotionless homicidal maniac ruthlessly hunting down a specified target...

@@philiphudgens4726 I think 'The Storm' is here! But it's Software based .. not Hardware (as predicted in the movie!) ; )

I miss the days when no-name actors were given lead roles. Feels like the past 10+ years has just been the same 15 Marvel actors being cast in EVERYTHING.

Same

Or he "borrowed" the sci-fi idea from another great writer Harlan Ellison... Look it up.

@@danielhathaway43 exactly this, he plagiarized Harlan's work then had to credit him on the film.

Utah. LOL

So cute!! Good for you guys! Binge the best Terminator films.

Lovely story. Slice of Americana

It was a slow, methodical pace, but always moving towards its end goal (climax of the movie), Just like the Terminator itself. The parallels of how the movie was shot in the slow build-up, just like the Terminator hunting Sara is what makes this movie Sci-fy Horror (what James wanted to shoot the movie as). You have to love it for what it is.

100% agree. The original is way more brutal and less corny.

Yep, just like Alien, first ones the best

Had that same experience with Alien and Aliens also recently myself when rewatching

​@@ericschwan7353 "Especially the script"? My man, have you actually listened to the dialogue in THIS movie?! James Cameron's dialogue is just barely a step above George Lucas'. 😂 To be clear, I love BOTH films, but as I've gotten older, I've found myself cringing more and more at the love story in this one. Kyle Reese's monologue where he confesses that he kept a picture of Sarah and has "always loved her" literally sounds like a serial killer.

Eternally grateful guy here too! Respect for the channel owner.

Ngl, Reeves would have been amazing as Kyle Reese imo

less known actors make the story more credible .

“That’s a good gun!” 😂

I might close EARLY today!

The good old days of vhs.

I'm 43 and from Belgium. To me, Terminator 1, Aliens, Predator 1 and Conan The Barbarian are among the top-10 movies of all times. And I've seen more than 1500 films in my lifetime !

'Brang'...wow that's a whole new level of wrong...😂

​@@randyschwagginsIt's funny though!😅😅😅😅

brang... LOL

Thanks for the support!

Michael biehn definitely is one of the greatest good guys ever in movie history.

Yer back then we got to see all the good stuff really young.. Like Terminator, Robocop, Rambo, Rocky etc. It's was always talking points on playgrounds. Even the games were aimed at kids. Kids nowadays are too sheltered.

Please tell Michael he was absolutely perfect in his role. I cannot imagine any of the other considered actors being able to pull off a really likable, humble, selfless, uncertain but determined, personality. You know, human. "Can you beat it?" "I don't know....with these weapons? I don't know..." Gave me chills F*cking gold.

@@JMoney-ne3to I sure will. They're out of the country at the moment for some comic con, but I'll let them know. I'm sure they'll appreciate hearing it.

hetero but love Michael Biehn and Richard Feynman so much!

I was twelve, cool eh.

Yeah a strong female with an actual character arc, those where the days

T2 had more hype surronding its release but T1 is the better film

I'm with you... T2 was a great sequel. But the original is a better and more iconic movie IMHO.

I think there are two different types of films, the first is a more gritty, raw movie, whereas the second one is more polished and "blockbuster" in my opinion.

@@charlie.ridgway86 it is that! But how many sequels outperform the original? It's a bit more common nowadays but in general sequel being better than original is an exception. The only other film that comes to mind is Aliens which was a blockbuster but I still prefer the original Alien. Alien franchise is probably the closest analogy to the Terminator franchise. But I get your point

T2 is the better action movie, T1 is the better horror movie, or should I say tech noir movie.

Somehow I forgot about Titanic, my favorite James Cameron film.

@@LaytonEversaul Yeah, I have done the same with him in Titanic mostly because DiCaprio dominates it. Hell, even Billy Zane gets a lot more to do in it than Bill. Btw, your docs are just outstanding and this one is one of your best.

I sent Paxton a letter of appreciation for his hilarious role in ALIENS. He sent me a handwritten postcard from the far-off land of Marina Del Rey thanking me and telling me to look for his next two masterpieces, PASS THE AMMO & NEAR DARK.

Cutting the 'Sarah Connor Chronicles' was a crime!

I'll never forgive the cancellation of this show.

Sarah Connor was a great show, and went out with a big flame, one of the wildest endings ever

@@sheldondrake8935 Absolutely. A season ending huge cliffhanger that potentially changed everything. It was maddening that they let it end there, but after watching the series several times, I reconciled with it. The grimdark future after T2 might as well have been the Twilight Zone as Skynet and Future John essentially fought a Time War. So I view it as a TZ style shock ending that showed that there was NO end to a war of Time Loops.

@@feudist one of the brilliant things the first movie did, was acknowledge that Time Travel plots will "drive you nuts" and left it there, they're also a convenient out when stuff is getting canceled too lol