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The story of zinc bullets

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Who makes zinc bullets? What are they used for and how long have they been around? Firearms expert Andrew Venables answers these questions and more.
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22 авг 2024

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@dthundergunb3115 2 года назад

I cast both zinc and lead bullets, anyone curious about casting zinc bullets I will give you the best piece of advice I learned the hard way. DO NOT EVER CAST ZINC IN CHEAP ALUMINUM MOLDS! ZINC EATS ALUMINUM! instead use a cast iron mold or a brass hardened one from arsenal molds. Zinc is actually castable at 900+°F not a whole lot harder than casting lead and certainly much easier than trying to cast or swage copper.

@HAYAOLEONE 2 года назад

👍

@waptek2 2 года назад

@King66nb766 Год назад

is it possible to shoot zinc casted bullet at full speed as jacketed bullets ?

@hartstudebakerkid Год назад

You can use aluminum molds but have to smoke the cavities heavy so they are carbon lined to not eat out the molds.

@pitchforkpeasant6219 7 месяцев назад

@@King66nb766been using jacketed data on zinc for over 2 years

@leoncordero9083 3 года назад

I cast solid zinc projectiles and my 9mm hollowpoints fragment on impact but the base travels about 13 to 15 inches not to mention I get 1600fps.

@HAYAOLEONE 3 года назад

Old things are new again. 'Elvis Ammo' made a few cool vids on the subject.

@dthundergunb3115 2 года назад

@@HAYAOLEONE I love Elvis Ammo! I learned a lot of casting tips from him... Unfortunately he's went MIA again I hope to see him start uploading new videos again soon.

@dthundergunb3115 2 года назад

@@HAYAOLEONE I got the Elvis Ammo .224 mold from Jared at arsenal molds and picked up the 4 cavity brass hardened mold and that damn thing is heavy compared to the aluminum Lee molds lol it's too notch though, I cast zinc and lead bullets out of it. The zinc bullets drop at about 45 grain projectiles and they're awesome just be careful loading them and watch for compressed loads because it's still the size of the 77grain bullets

@HAYAOLEONE 2 года назад

@@dthundergunb3115 🤙

@1x1nDone Год назад

@@dthundergunb3115 If you don't mind me asking, what load data are you using for those lighter zinc projectiles out of the 77gr mould?

@werejiggy4433 2 года назад

Excellent and informative video. Thanks for this.

@MrJeronlewis 3 года назад

I think its great that people are starting to think of new designs. Its come such a long way from black powder and lead balls.

@dthundergunb3115 2 года назад

Ha I cast my own lead balls for my 36 cal 1851 navy repro BP Pistol lol

@pitchforkpeasant6219 7 месяцев назад

Zinc has been used in the past. Sixties i think. Its not as hard as solid copper. Its still hard so barrel wear plus

@Johnny-jr2lq Год назад

What’s not mentioned in this video is cost. Cost plays a big role in selection of a bullet. Even though the 1900 projectile is old it still does a wonderful job putting a animal down. Plus they are extremely accurate and they are cheap. In recent years a few of my cast friends have been casting zink projectiles. The issue with solid cast zink projectiles is they are ALOT lighter then normal jacked projectiles. So that can be a issue in regards to the correct powder charge and powder case fill. Not to mention there’s zero data to make these kinds of zink cartridges.

@hartstudebakerkid Год назад

Copper and zinc are so close in weight you can use copper load data.

@pitchforkpeasant6219 7 месяцев назад

Been moulding pure zinc for two years plus. 63% weight on average. I use jacketed bullet data and no lube or gas checks. 220 grain mould about 138 actual using 220 load data. 87 grains imr 4831 in a 338 lapua on 20 lb propane cans nice expansion. Not as hard as solid copper but barrel wear is worse than jacketed lead. Zinc is bearing material though so “slick”

@jefferyboring4410 6 месяцев назад

@@pitchforkpeasant6219zinc is definitely known to wear out a barrel very fast. It saves $ on bullets for sure but I’d only use em in cheap barrels like bear creek arms.

@King66nb766 Год назад

is it possible to shoot zinc casted bullet at full speed as jacketed bullets ?

@hartstudebakerkid Год назад

yes

@pitchforkpeasant6219 7 месяцев назад

Oh yeah😊

@hartstudebakerkid Год назад

Then there are those of us that cast a zinc monolithic bullet.

@pitchforkpeasant6219 7 месяцев назад

And have been for years. They’re awesome 👍👍

@jefferyboring4410 6 месяцев назад

Cheap is fun but their not nearly as good. Their light don’t expand wear out barrels and catch the wind. But awesome for cheap diy alternative.

@hartstudebakerkid 6 месяцев назад

@@jefferyboring4410 You obvoiously have no clue and have never taken a chemistry class to even see a Periodic Table. Zinc is right next to copper which has been used for solid bullets for a while. Zinc has also been used commercially. On dangerous game you want penetration to the point that you get pass throughs so the animal is bleeding through a through hole.

@gregmcb5305 2 года назад

Did lead bullets really strip the rifling at high speeds? Or did the rifling grip so hard it destroys the bullet?

@dthundergunb3115 2 года назад

I would say it depends on how hard the lead alloy was, if it were pure leaf the rifling most likely shredded the bullet on the way down the barrel, my marlin 336 30-30 will fragment the instant it touches anything, I use the lead alloy I cast my 45 acp bullets, but they're only going half as fast in the 45 I've literally only recovered fragments of cast lead from my 30-30 loads but can retrieve almost a full copper jacketed FTX. The jacket makes all the difference in holding it together haha my AR loves zinc bullets I don't even have to powder coat them.

@waptek2 2 года назад

the rifling grooves foul with lead then the corrosion eats the lands

@DastardlyThoughts 3 года назад

What's the benefit of the hard zinc penetrator core as opposed to using a copper core behind the powdered zinc? Copper is both harder and denser than zinc. Is there some other benefit to zinc? Cost perhaps?

@HAYAOLEONE 3 года назад

I'd say initial velocity.

@jefferyboring4410 6 месяцев назад

Nothing whatsoever this video is apparently the result of anti lead pc whatever. Zinc is light and cheap and not as effective.

@timbersniper2084 2 года назад

What about cast zinc?

@HAYAOLEONE 2 года назад

It works. Fast. Doesn't deform a lot.

@Spushed 2 года назад

What gun has that type of bolt action!? That is amazing!

@waptek2 2 года назад

well , most of them as of today lol

@Spushed 2 года назад

@@waptek2 I have yet to see an action like that in the States. Not saying they are not here it's just that they are probably rare.

@jefferyboring4410 6 месяцев назад

That’s a push pull been around since ww2. A auto loader is exactly the same thing except u cut off the gas. So take your ar15 or whatever automatic u have and just plug off the gas now u have a pull push mechanism. Old as the hills

@chrischiampo7647 Год назад

Zinc Is Rough on The Bore and Rifling Isn’t It

@pitchforkpeasant6219 7 месяцев назад

Not as much as solid copper

@hughrose376 3 года назад

Poor camera work! Andrew is not that good-looking! Better if the camera remained on what he was talking about or pointing to.

@wyattcitizenzap4539 2 года назад

so new pennies are worth something...

@waptek2 2 года назад

especially is you separate the copper & zinc

@pitchforkpeasant6219 7 месяцев назад

As long as you arent selling the metal in them. Amazon sells 3.5 lb bar of zinc. Pennies in a pinch😊

@HAYAOLEONE 3 года назад

Iron/crappy steel is dirt cheap but you gotta keep pushing anything else to feel 'superior' and 'support' businesses making tons of money...

@ChucksSEADnDEAD 2 года назад

You'd be limiting your own market selling steel core bullets - some countries automatically consider it armor piercing. Many ranges would not allow it as they wouldn't want to deal with the liability of sparks starting fires or just the steel chewing through their barriers/backstops.

@HAYAOLEONE 2 года назад

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD lol no

@ChucksSEADnDEAD 2 года назад

@@HAYAOLEONE List the countries where steel core ammo is allowed in Europe.

@HAYAOLEONE 2 года назад

@@ChucksSEADnDEAD I won't. Why should I?.. Iron / super soft steel / scrap steel is perfectly ok for bullets in lots of applications. No prob. Cost can be minimal. We both know that's exactly why it won't happen. Have a great day.

@ChucksSEADnDEAD 2 года назад

@@HAYAOLEONE Don't tell companies to risk their legal status if you're not willing to look up the laws. You won't do it because you got called on your BS, and like every other BS'er in this website you tell people to have a good day when the conversation embarrasses you.