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A respected professor dies in a hot tub. Two friends are at the scene. Only one survives to tell the tale. "48 Hours" contributor Jonathan Vigliotti reports. Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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@48hours Год назад

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@ladyhonor822 Год назад

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@lindanicolas560 Год назад

@@ladyhonor822q in 1

@alexlogan202 Год назад

You guys are lame

@TallRariMEGA Год назад

😊

@davidmcgregor5531 Год назад

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@flex0.00 Год назад

Moral of the story: don't do drugs

@mtaylor7307 Год назад

And drink in a hot tub, especially not when the medical condition of an enlarged heart is present.

@veganbutcherhackepeter 5 месяцев назад

I've done plenty of drugs in my 52 years lifetime and never drowned in a hot tub.

@elizabethbronson6977 5 месяцев назад

I saw a bumper sticker today that said "do milfs not drugs". It made my day. Lol

@veganbutcherhackepeter 5 месяцев назад

@@elizabethbronson6977 The only drug I'm totally hooked on.

@PinGMaj 4 месяца назад

Amazing that a college professor had such terrible judgement. Who tf do we have leading our kids????

@angelathompson4585 9 месяцев назад

WOW. He walked away from a police officer and had time to go into his house and write a suicide note . This entire situation is unbelievable

@powerboatguy2308 9 месяцев назад

No jury should ever convict on this evidence. All they had was a bunch of women who had aggressive sex with him and kept coming back for more. The guy shooting himself was all the reasonable doubt you need, should have never gone to trial .

@mwahha6965 9 месяцев назад

Agreed the police really made it 100 times harder

@ModernPict 9 месяцев назад

my first thoughts too, and if its true it took them two hours to call police maybe this note was written then

@cornell833 8 месяцев назад

@@violagentsch🤔

@suejones-herrera3340 8 месяцев назад

Right!!!

@christopherebukaojukwu8215 11 месяцев назад

It’s a really complex case. “Marianne is so intelligent, she wouldn’t have drowned.” But if she was so intelligent she wouldn’t be dating him and doing this amount of drugs and alcohol.

@joeshmooo5327 11 месяцев назад

Being intelligent and being able to swim are two different things

@Casy1306 10 месяцев назад

@@joeshmooo5327 Being able to swim doesn't seem to matter since she didn't drown. But yeah, intelligent people can still have bad habits and bad taste in partners.

@joeshmooo5327 10 месяцев назад

Your 100% correct, I shot off the comment while only part way through,

@thaisc684 10 месяцев назад

I agree.

@InJunoWeTrust 10 месяцев назад

@@joeshmooo5327how would swimming help her? It's a hot tub

@beckishoumaker5828 4 месяца назад

She wasn’t careless, she was a responsible woman. Really? She was sleeping with a known drug addict at his home, mixing different drugs all while drinking alcohol. Moral of the story, be responsible and carful who are associated with, and don’t do drugs!

@simmonssimmons4494 26 дней назад

Yes, Amen 🙌

@Caribbeanbud 19 дней назад

People equates being educated and ambitious to be all round smart. She made very silly choices that resulted in her death. I agree with you she was irresponsible and lived dangerously.

@dropway9108 17 дней назад

I just say no to drugs. Nancy Reagan and God. Amen.

@bonnielee7134 11 дней назад

I googled the case. Marcus Lillard had called two people that night asking what to do for an unconscious person. He was trying to treat her, himself to avoid being sent back to prison on a drug trafficking charge that he was out on parole for. So she’s with a person who can’t call 911 for her because he doesn’t want to go back to prison. It might be smart to do a background check on the people you hang around with.

@reconstructingleslie4597 Год назад

So if one is intelligent they can't drown? That woman is unbelievable!

@amandak3198 Год назад

I know, I actually laughed at that comment. Drowning doesn't mean a person is stupid. Getting wasted and taking X and then getting into a HOT tub? Well, that might be considered stupid.

@mtaylor7307 Год назад

She's a sister in grief and denial. No one wants to think of their educated, smart sister, choosing to take drugs and alcohol with an enlarged heart and get into a hot tub. Deaths in hot tubs have happened due to any combinations of those.

@JeweleeT. 11 месяцев назад

YAAAAAAS! THANK U FOR SAYING THAT! 🙏

@rochaelpeter7211 3 месяца назад

My sentiments exactly I’m like huh?? Does that make any sense🤦🏾‍♀️

@skyegroome223 2 месяца назад

Her sister claiming that she was smart and wasn't careless and couldn't possibly have died thst way didn't make a whole lot of sense. Especially when she admitted that her sister was questioning being in a relationship with a man who did drugs and got violent when he was on them. That right there sounds careless to me. And drinking a glass of wine and taking MDMA are 2 different things. One is going to have a more significant impact on your motor skills.

@nancylarrea9396 Год назад

I still think that this was an accidental death, the 2 dope heads panicked and it looked like they were trying to cover up.

@lenoritaswartz3782 16 дней назад

Agreed %

@catic6587 11 дней назад

Yep. I have watched the film before reading comments and that’s my opinion too. She wasn’t killed. The combination of drugs and her medical condition combined with the hot tub. Clark felt guilty because it was “on his watch”, he was probably also influenced by the drugs (coming down after mdma) and his past traumas and the way he processed events. I felt so sorry for him. The fact that the other guy is a narcissist, there’s no doubt, but in this case, I don’t think he did it.

@trehugr4life 7 месяцев назад

"I know my sister, she wasn't a careless person. "... omg, your sister is doing all kinds of drugs and partying, that's pretty careless

@HeatPate 6 месяцев назад

Right! Also drugs and hot tub don’t work together! 🤦🏻‍♀️

@tonia_tee 6 месяцев назад

Exactly, one can never be too careful, esp when on drugs

@sibongilekatemdhluli1511 5 месяцев назад

Exactly….like she was careless taking drugs, drinking and bath tubbing.

@nonyabigness 5 месяцев назад

Look around you. 8/10 of the people have done all those things and it doesn’t result in them dying. So try again

@mr.courtney5703 5 месяцев назад

Hanging out with Marcus shows pretty poor judgment.

@scarletsletter4466 11 месяцев назад

The best lesson to take from cases like this is to be careful who you surround yourself with. ESPECIALLY if you’re going to engage in risky &/ or illegal behavior. If you’re dealing with an ex con who’s on parole, there’s a high likelihood that if something happens to you, they won’t call 911 asap.

@msf8297 10 месяцев назад

what do you mean be careful? like give examples

@pedroazevedo7413 10 месяцев назад

@@msf8297 this is not a rulle or a mandament from the byble, just common sense

@woodrowtaylor6907 9 месяцев назад

He was on probation parole is what you get after prison probation is what you get instead of prison

@eza_ahm 9 месяцев назад

The best lesson to take is not to do drugs esp. when u r an educator.

@maricamaas2326 8 месяцев назад

@@eza_ahm Difficult to comprehend how someone at her age, and in her position was still behaving as irresponsibly.

@freyaa6209 Год назад

Pretty haunting to see Clark’s last moments on earth

@ascendingcosmicsoul1682 3 месяца назад

I dont think he woulda killed himself if he wasn't wasted. The horror of her death was amplified by 1000 becuase of the drug.

@ValerieGriner 3 месяца назад

He looks pretty tormented. Perhaps he was afraid that they'd try to arrest him, too.

@theoryofpersonality1420 Месяц назад

@ascendingcosmicsoul1682 yeah, because you knew him personally, and intimately for years 🙄😒🤪

@4651isaac Год назад

Props to the sheriff for being honest about not following policy

@jameshovey8301 Год назад

It's getting more and more difficult to cover mistakes up with cameras on every police vehicle and every policeman.

@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916 Год назад

@jameshovey8301 Government officials can literally be caught on camera doing something illegal, and will stick with the "Shaggy" defense.

@michellecg4771 Год назад

@@jameshovey8301I’m

@jypsyjewels2854 Год назад

Georgia Law Enforcement, particularly GBI, has to be honest about not following policy quite often.

@jameshovey8301 10 месяцев назад

@@michellecg4771 your what?

@travlindude1126 4 месяца назад

The Son, the young Man who cautioned the dead Lady about his Father shows very good character and the most sound judgement of the lot. I respect him for his courage to warn her. Too bad she did not head his warning, she lacked his good judgment. She made many poor choices even if she was "bug smart".

@anngitau3307 Месяц назад

@@SpiritualPlayboy-wt4ththat part!

@mrcemetery Год назад

I feel very sorry for the sister, but she consistently buries her head in the sand about Marianne's actions.

@stevetruth2696 Год назад

I don't know anything more than what I learned here, but I do know that I agree, her sister cannot accept the PhD in the family may be able to do drugs and hang with charming 'bad boy' types.

@OpiatesAndTits Год назад

@@stevetruth2696yeah “smart” doesn’t prevent your heart from failing after taking ecstasy after drinking all night after staying way too long in a way too hot tub after possibly engaging in sexual activity which may have involved some choking. In fact smart doesn’t prevent you from going down this chain of events in the first place

@ug1969 Год назад

Yes, she keeps saying “my mister was too smart to…”. Well, the sister apparently was not smart enough to have a grown up man by her side, drink with moderation, avoid heavy drugs, and more than all avoid mixing alcohol+drugs+hot. Lets also say that entomology is not such a fancy and prestigious discipline eh. And having a PhD is normal for scientists. The family exaggerated a bit her success story, perhaps.

@billscannell93 Год назад

@@ug1969 You can't predict someone's intelligence based on whether she likes to party or not. She didn't exercise the caution she should have, but that's no reason to belittle the entire field of entomology!

@mandie1109 Год назад

I kept thinking 🤔 a PhD but married and divorced 3 times ... Doesn't seem like she had enough smarts to understand relationships, let alone marriage. Her pick-a-man radar was busted. Not to take away the tragic death. That's horrible. Just pointing out something that struck me as odd. Like a personality flaw.

@lauraschroeder8177 Год назад

Intelligence does not mean one has wisdom or common sense. Hard drugs and alcohol should never be mixed.

@Spooky_515 Год назад

Ok church lady 👌🏻

@cedricduyongco Год назад

@@Spooky_515 Mixing uppers and downers are really bad for your body. Alcohol is a downer and MDMA which she took is an upper. And given her existing heart condition this really is a recipe for disaster. No need to call @Laura Schroeder (OP) a church goer.

@angelwings7930 Год назад

@@Spooky_515 🤡

@katofuntato466 Год назад

@@Spooky_515👈Tweeker 🙃

@mtaylor7307 Год назад

Well, the hot tub was likely the trigger. Unintended death from hot tubs happen.

@fergieferg9192 Год назад

It was a weak case. I'm not even convinced that this lady was even murdered at all. The best they could have tried him on was failure to contact authorities in a timely manner.

@Lucy-ym8ch 4 месяца назад

Exactly. Maybe negligent homicide since he didn't get help

@FyreStartr 4 месяца назад

She died the same way Matthew perry did unfortunately

@ValerieGriner 3 месяца назад

Except that his drug of choice was Fentanyl.@@FyreStartr

@carloszuniga9803 3 месяца назад

If she didn't have water in her longs, then she was strangled.

@amberslilrose3954 2 месяца назад

@@carloszuniga9803OR she had a cardiac episode and died.. no breathing

@orvil9223 Год назад

That is the scariest statement in this whole story, because it is far too common. "I had my mind made up and nothing they were going to tell me was going to convince me that Marcus didn't do it". Jurors admitting they don't even care what the evidence says. Thank God she eventually listened. What happens in cases where the evidence isn't overwhelming? Or it's not as clear? An innocent person goes to prison.

@gabriellafontenelle3112 Год назад

That jurors statement leave a lot to be desired.

@9216years Год назад

They're all horrible. But Marcus is lying. He didn't forget anything that night. He spent that 2hrs strong arming Clark into not calling an ambulance. Clark felt guilty for letting that lady die.

@stevetruth2696 Год назад

@@9216years I hope you NEVER are accepted on a jury.

@9216years Год назад

@stevetruth2696 do you honestly believe he doesn't remember anything? Also, his reaction once he heard what Clark did to himself was telling. He starting shitting on the man. If he thought Clark hurt the lady. Then, why wait 2hrs to call for help? I started wanting to believe him. I didn't like the bias toward him either. But, step back and look at the facts.

@hieithefox Год назад

Honestly commend her for understanding that unfortunately the case was hard to prove on him

@djcoolrule 6 месяцев назад

All three were tripping balls and only God knows what happened. Those drugs are strong and depending on how much they took they could have been talking to animals and trees.

@sarahs5340 3 месяца назад

Exactly, unfortunately, but exactly!

@zombiechicken7114 Год назад

Makes me mad when the sister implies smartpeople wouldnt drown!! If she was so smart why did she go in a hot tub while under the influence? But its an odd one and hard to know what happened. Im sure the people there didnt really know as they were not sober enough to.

@thehamster2301 Год назад

I had the same thought. It doesn't matter how clever you are drinking all night will make you stupid. Excess alcohol and hot tubs do not mix.

@catherinemumbua8251 Год назад

She must have been chocked and thrown on the hot tub!! My thinking

@brianmutua3694 Год назад

@@catherinemumbua8251 But they were already in the hot tub, it must have been that old man.

@littlenikki9539 Год назад

I dropped acid in a skyscraper a few weeks and as I put the tab on my tongue I sang out loud to others in the group (also on acid) "Taking acid in a skyscraper 🎵🎶" and at the end of the night everyone was fine in fact we were flying, happy days 😅

@kayscarpetta5502 Год назад

Exactly! My ex-husband drowned in a hot tub and he was a university professor. His doctor said when you have alot of alcohol in your blood your blood pressure bottoms out making you unconscious. Smart people still have substance abuse problems.

@sandrabentley8111 Год назад

I would like to know the conversation between Clarke and Marcus in the 2 hours before calling 911.

@mtaylor7307 Год назад

She died and they freaked. The criminal pasts of the two men likely complicated it for them. And they were using drugs and alcohol too.

@thebewitchinghour831 Год назад

"Hey dude, you got some more ecstasy?" "Yea, man. Let's use it all up before the cops get here and confiscate it all." "Ok, cool" 2 hours later.............. "Whoa. Where did we lose 2 hours of time, dude?" "I don't know. Wait. Is she still breathing?" "I don't think so. Maybe we should call 911 now."

@khrismoney8888 Месяц назад

Go back in time.

@theoryofpersonality1420 Месяц назад

Time of death is a guess. Not a science.

@orvil9223 Год назад

"I know my sister wasn't a careless person" Dates drug addicts, hangs out with other drug addicts, goes bar hopping, does drugs.......

@rainaeasley7863 Год назад

Thank you for saying it

@susiesolangesimpson2828 Год назад

😂 exactly

@lunaamor878 5 месяцев назад

How is bar hopping careless?

@charlesterrizzi8311 4 месяца назад

@@lunaamor878depends on who you’re with sand how much you’re consuming, it can be extremely careless

@dolinaj1 2 месяца назад

@@lunaamor878Are you kidding? What an absurd remark.

@karlad4082 Год назад

I actually do agree with the jurors. There was way too much doubt in this case. I actually do believe that Marcus didn’t even know what happened because he was so high on Coke 😕 They all were, and it would have been really hard to find out what really happened 🤷🏻‍♀️

@dannyhernandez2203 11 месяцев назад

I've been on that and the only thing I felt was a need to go number 2 and paranoia.

@azazello1784 10 месяцев назад

Either way he deserves to rot in jail. He should have been convicted.

@Uncanny_Mountain 10 месяцев назад

This assumes he is not lying

@ashleynelson6247 7 месяцев назад

@@dannyhernandez2203Everybody's tolerance is different

@hotshot6674 5 месяцев назад

@@azazello1784 So do you.

@sngray11 Год назад

This case has stuck with me because there are way more questions than answers in regards to this case.

@drhyshek Год назад

She wasn’t a careless person? She drank a lot and took ex.

@mannymelendez6451 6 месяцев назад

Interesting how the sister of the deceased says ‘my sister is not a careless person,’ yet there she is doing Ecstasy at the age of 40-50 years old….

@ZeraphineDoll 3 месяца назад

My sister is not a careless person…pumping yourself with alcohol and dangerous drugs is beyond careless.

@Autumnnss Год назад

"Just a little pressure on them carotid arteries..." Lol. That's gold.

@johannab7715 2 месяца назад

😂😂😂😂😂 literally sounding like a serial killer

@fatee5069 Месяц назад

Haha that was funny, but he's not wrong LoL it's supposed to be euphoric.

@MrTweetyhack Год назад

"I gave it to my dad" and he burned it? How convenient

@nida4509 27 дней назад

She lying

@kristindeltoro1948 8 месяцев назад

Honestly, that was my first thought - it wasn’t a homicide. No one did it.. absolutely could of been from the ecstasy (which dehydrates you significantly) and being in the hot tub, drinking and THEN having a health concern/heart issue as well. Also, waiting too long to call 911.. maybe they could have saved her, maybe not. We will never know. It was a unfortunate combination of bad choices and circumstances. ✌🏼

@Jorizzle22 Месяц назад

Well said.

@lessoriginal 7 месяцев назад

Legit I kindda hate the sister. She says over and over that her sister was so intelligent she would never drown in a hot tub. Like what? Only stupid people drown in hot tubs? Or drown at all? Her sister was so intelligent she was married and divorced 3 times before the age of 30 and did drugs in the woods with hippies. That's how intelligent her sister actually was.

@ruthreichert6563 3 месяца назад

Yep, I agree with you.

@michaelagrundler9250 3 месяца назад

That's maybe her way to handle the dead of her sister!?

@helenhunter4540 2 месяца назад

Lessoriginal. Relationships are not a matter of only smart/not smart.

@helenhunter4540 2 месяца назад

Oh now he's blaming the devil.

@sdriza 2 месяца назад

exactly

@justamutt5294 Год назад

i dunno who, if anyone, killed her but from what was provided in this story, there's more than reasonable doubt that it was marcus and not clark or a combo of drugs, alcohol, and a heart condition ... in other words they did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that marcus did it

@MetalMcfly Год назад

The jury got this right. Whether Marcus killed this woman or not we will never know but the law states in order to convict it must be "beyond a reasonable doubt". The moment Clark walked back into his home and blew his head off is the exact moment "reasonable doubt" was established and by that action alone, the jury must acquit. The law is the law.

@brookiegremlin6660 Год назад

i agree. I also think there is reasonable doubt bc fr this woman clearly could have simply drowned. That said, this dude is so severely unlikable and creepy I can see how LE became fixated on him.

@cedricduyongco Год назад

Also the written suicide note of Clark said he's sorry she died on his watch. He didn't say he murdered her nor did he say she was murdered on his watch. That said, Marcus is definitely unlikable but the jury got this right.

@courtneyfitzpatrick3214 Год назад

The law is the law…. Agreed That’s how people catch assault or gun charges .. bond out/ PTA Then a week later cut a few citizens on the train… Country needs to tighten its belt with repeat offenders. Even 1st timers squeeze them so hard they’ll have to think before they act and if not… Few years might help

@BrookieCookie317 Год назад

Why is committing suicide a sign he killed her? He could have felt guilty he didn't call 911 sooner and a myriad of other reasons. The police were questioning them like they both did it almost immediately and that's enough to push some people over the edge

@outofcompliance1639 Год назад

Yeah plenty of doubt in this case. How and why were not proven.

@TheJereld 7 месяцев назад

"If she was so scared when I was choking her, then why didn't she say anything?" BECAUSE YOU WERE CHOKING HER!!!

@mich3992 3 месяца назад

😂😂

@CandyKG28 Месяц назад

I consent to being lightly choked and if I feel like it's too much, I tap out. The fact those women allowed themselves to be choked out and wanna complain about it now, is ridiculous and opportunistic. They wanted to be involved in a criminal case and needed to play victim in my opinion. If they gave a statement where they asked him to stop and the man stopped, then I don't believe he was being malicious or violent.

@mich3992 Месяц назад

@@CandyKG28 how do you know she didn't try tapping out?

@brkctrl Месяц назад

@@CandyKG28you can only do that with someone you trust with your life. Otherwise what happens if they don’t stop? Stay safe.

@powerboatguy2308 9 месяцев назад

If I heard this was an intelligent woman one more time I would throw up in my mouth a little bit. It is one thing to be to doing heavy narcotics in your twenties (not smart, but everyone has there own self discovery), it is another to be in your mid 40s doing these drugs with a self centered narcissist. Being able to catalog insects does not make one intelligent. I think the verdict was correct, all they had were women that had aggressive sex with him who kept coming back for more. The guy blowing his head off was enough reasonable doubt, surprised they even brought this to trial.

@madrush24 Год назад

Don't do drugs, kids. Don't do drugs.

@blakemrolfsensanchez547 3 месяца назад

Doing drugs never ends good

@sdriza 2 месяца назад

especially with violent ex cons

@khrismoney8888 Месяц назад

Ppl have been telling us this since childhood. We don't listen lmao

@jpal1080 Год назад

I agree with the jurors. A man killed himself when police arrived and started asking questions for goodness sake! This guy may not be a model citizen whatsoever but I am thankful that unbiased jurors went only by the evidence presented. That being said, her death is tragic and I’m very sorry for her family.

@5poeplewnopets Год назад

😅

@cedricduyongco Год назад

Here's the thing, he was definitely remorseful of something and he stated it. He was sorry she died in his watch. He wasn't sorry he killed her, he also didn't say she was murdered on my watch. The third party medical examiner also stated strangulation wasn't sure. And there are other possible causes of death. He also said he wouldn't call it a homicide. I think there are reasonable doubts all around.

@XOXO-mb2vh Год назад

It must suck to be on extacy when the cops are questioning you about a deceased person.

@catsinpajamas Год назад

Stop defending murderers.

@cedricduyongco Год назад

@@catsinpajamas Can you honestly say that Marcus is the murderer? The jurors were presented with all the evidence yet it only took them 30+ minutes to decide he's not guilty. That shows you there is no conclusive evidence that says he murdered her or if she was even murdered. You also know that a third party medical examiner paid for by 48 hours (not the defendant, so this is an unbiased medical examiner) cannot conclusively say that she was strangled? And that she has a pre-existing heart condition. Uppers (ecstasy) and downers (alcohol) cannot be mixed as it will stress out your heart and she took both and she has a pre-existing heart condition. So unless you have evidence that the jury didn't see, I don't know how you can say with absolute certainty that he was a murderer.

@sunnyscott4876 Месяц назад

I'm sorry for your loss, sis, but denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

@donnawojcik1271 9 месяцев назад

The sister kept saying how smart Mary Anne was. Well sorry but doing drugs and drinking while around water doesn’t sound like the most intelligent woman in the world. She sounds like she lived a wild life 🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m not saying she deserved to be killed but she def lived a life in the edge

@Bambicantsing Год назад

Why wasn’t Marcus charged with not calling for medical help sooner than 2 hours after her death?

@susanaldridge2000 Год назад

It could be he thot she was going to cone too from drug ingestion and he didnt want her professorship endangered.

@wendelavanbeurden3537 Год назад

@@susanaldridge2000 Mmh I don't think a narcissist will ever think of her professorship being endangered, they only think always about themselves.. his drugs past...hoping she was not death but in the end I think he must be charged with not calling medical help immediately, if he really loved her so much that was the first thing to do.. but I think he loved himself more as is always the case with narcissist person's..

@powerboatguy2308 9 месяцев назад

@@wendelavanbeurden3537 I don't know if there is a criminal law compelling anyone to call 911. If you saw someone passed in the parking lot, but chose not to get involved, I don't think they can do anything. Now a civil lawsuit is a different thing.

@encycl07pedia- 4 месяца назад

@@powerboatguy2308 There's a Good Samaritan law, but IDK if it's a thing in GA.

@fatdad64able Год назад

"The crickets add a little crunch." me (candied nuts will do just fine)

@ct5625 3 месяца назад

I always find it weird that people who have no problem eating a carved up cow cringe at the thought of an insect. Insects are eaten all around the world every day. You eat them too and you just don't know it. I hate to break this to you, but products like peanut butter have an "allowable limit" on contamination by insects and other matter. You don't think there are millions of people out there checking billions of peanuts before they go into a masher, right? There's lizards, rats, mice, bugs, all kinds of stuff goes into the food you eat and you have no idea.

@UnknownUser-fe5zu Месяц назад

Right I thought walnuts 😂😂

@Katiedora122 8 месяцев назад

I feel bad for the sister and family's loss, but I have a graduate degree and almost choked on a pancake that got lodged in my throat while stone cold sober in the middle of my office building. And I've seen just enough recreational drug use among (good/smart/kind) friends that I wouldn't rely on them to save my life in a hot tub. Being brainy doesn't translate to perfect behavior or the ability to avoid dumb accidents or dumb people. Clearly Marcus isn't a great guy, but I can't say I disagree with the jury in this. I think there were too many possibilities creating doubt around a tragic accident to convict Marcus just because he survived. You know the prosecution would have done the same thing to Clark if it was the other way around regardless of evidence.

@VaniaAjah 9 месяцев назад

Seriously who will take an ecstasy then jump into hot water? Consumed an MDMA itself (without any other drugs or alcohol) needs a cool even cold temperature otherwise your heart will beating too fast. As MD let me explain a little bit, MDMA dilates blood vessels combined with hot bathtube the blood vessels will dilate even more, put the body on a severe dehydration state - which results the heart will desperately pumping blood so hard as a compensation to fullfilled demands of each organs. Severe Tachycardia could end with Cardiac Arrest, esp. when the victim already has Cardiomegaly. Well, that's why the guy (Marcus) jumped out and went to the forest, instinctly he needs to cool down to maintain his heart rate. This case looks like an accident for me.

@Alisonwarr87 2 месяца назад

I agree and well said in your comment

@PaperMario64 Год назад

Whenever you hear descriptors like, “charming, charismatic, etc” it usually means they are narcissistic con artists. Unfortunately, if the person is super attentive, fun-loving, lays on the charm, and wants to move fast in the relationship, you need to be careful. *Anyone* can be fooled by these types, it just depends on how skilled they are at adapting. But if you have had trauma or neglect in your background, be extra careful with establishing boundaries. If you have issues with boundaries and self love, stay away from these types all together.

@Mckinley-mick Год назад

Very well said. ❤

@nutellabrot9047 Год назад

I believe that too

@mamarobyn Год назад

Absofuckinglutely I had a kid with the master of "charisma"....

@brookiegremlin6660 Год назад

excellently stated.

@AromaBlue Год назад

@@mamarobynMe too😪 He became abusive when I became pregnant. A pregnancy we both wanted! But "I wasn't paying him enough attention" so I deserved to be demeaned and verbally abused.

@utubewatcher806 Год назад

The prosecution, examiners, and law enforcement made a mess of this one. Sympathies to the families and those charged.

@MrCityslickerktm 8 месяцев назад

39:47 - I can't stand Judges who hide behind "this court..." You mean YOU! The man was given a fair trial. He was found not guilty. But because YOU didn't agree with the jury's decision, you want to be vengeful and lock him up anyway for some meaningless drug violation.

@allanshpeley4284 8 месяцев назад

Exactly. It was clearly personal for her. She probably had a similar douchy boyfriend break up with her recently.

@mich3992 3 месяца назад

periot

@doogoo3844 Месяц назад

I was waiting for someone to make that point. What a misuse of power. Awful.

@B_Rich44 8 месяцев назад

That smirk he has on his face as he speaks is nauseating.

@mrsmelissa653 3 месяца назад

I thought so too 🤢

@GrandmaDawn118 Год назад

I really have no clue what happened to that beautiful woman. So so sad. But one thing that’s really strange to me is how Clark had enough time not to only commit suicide but he had time to write a whole suicide note! Very strange case 😢

@Spooky_515 Год назад

Suicide note would take a minute or two.

@lolitagrant6751 Год назад

@@Spooky_515 Still🙄

@metalgrinch Год назад

I wouldn't say beautiful. She was like a 5 and obviously led a pretty toxic lifestyle.

@Theaddora Год назад

Beautiful? How about not ugly?

@XOXO-mb2vh Год назад

Big red flag for sure

@MisplacedTexan Год назад

I don’t understand what such an intelligent woman was doing making such terrible decisions about drugs… alcohol… relationships…. It makes no sense!

@kentuky1233 Год назад

A truly intelligent person wouldn't be playing such stupid games.

@vickyabramowitz2885 Год назад

Where is it written that intelligent people are incapable of engaging in high risk behaviors? Relationships can be as addictive as substance abuse.

@R.O.T.C._SEEM Год назад

Married and divorced 3 times and you think she would pick better but nope

@x35mmman Год назад

@@R.O.T.C._SEEM boy that statements hits home so bad with me. So many times for fun I like up a guy that is dating someone I know and I find four DUI, DV or battery charges. Resisting arrest, drug issues and theft charges and the women will say that was five years ago. Yes it was but his criminal went on for 25 years. Did you see the 48 hours about the pawn shop owner knives his wife to detain the garage and takes a shot at the judge that handle his divorce Than some horse lady he met at the shooting range is going to bat for him he's a innocent man.

@ljones2087 Год назад

She had a hole in her life I guess.

@dlrichardson56 11 месяцев назад

sister said my sister was too smart to drown in a hot tub....but she was poppin pills and getting high....ok lol

@inspectorbear9557 Год назад

Marianne's sister has so much hatred for Marcus, she didn't care about finding out what really happened to her, she rather take the opportunity to out Marcus in prison. She could have died from a lethal combo of substances, but seriously who kills themselves right after the police are questioning you about a death on your watch?? A guilty person usually.

@mangojuice8038 Год назад

I think Marcus strangled her, she passed out, and because he left her in the water she drowned.

@MiracleFound Год назад

Yes, but guilt because he killed her or guilt because he didn't protect her?

@sarahwieland3243 Год назад

I agree with u. We will never know exactly what happened to Marianne that night. However, her sister completely took any responsibility of the events that night away from her sister. No matter how smart someone is they can still make poor choices and lapses of judgement. That night she made plenty of poor choices that could’ve cost her life. Drugs r a deadly game to play with especially when u don’t even know about a hidden health condition. For Clark to commit suicide truly threw so much doubt on everything as well. An innocent person doesn’t just blow their brains out in the middle of a questionable situation that they could help solve with answers only they could give.

@itsheff3929 Год назад

I think Marcus killed her and went in the woods when he thought she was just passed out. The old guy killed hisself when he thought the drug he supplied caused it

@phillyjilly Год назад

This ones hard. If hes used to strangling his loves, he wS also on ECSTACY and woulda felt even more emotion in the act! Or the other man also high with it coulda made a move and her neck was already brusied from past strangling in sex w her bf

@KhanaHatake Год назад

It's The Staircase all over again!! Drinks by a pool, a freak accident, and a husband in trouble.

@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 4 месяца назад

That’s not her husband tho

@peterklutinoty244 Год назад

Remember to walk away from the police when they take phone calls......

@mtaylor7307 Год назад

That only works for white people

@dove5729 9 месяцев назад

You think a professor should be smarter than letting individuals like this in her life!!

@powerboatguy2308 9 месяцев назад

Being a professor is over-rated in my opinion, she stayed in a school a couple of extra years cataloging insects. there seemed to be nothing intelligent about her. 3 divorces, going out with a looser, heavy drug user, womanizer and convicted felon drinking in her 40s while doing ecstasy.

@marknewton6984 2 месяца назад

Professors are often idiots. I ought to know...

@petergoodbody8379 9 месяцев назад

Deputy watching Clark needs to be fired.

@elizabeth_evangelium Год назад

This show is such an amazing and incredible show, just enjoy how they tell all about the victims lives and who they were such a shame for all of those who have lost their lives and their families and friends who have and still deal with their loss❤

@E-Kat Год назад

Not so amazing and incredible for the poor victims and their families!!! It's the saddest program one could watch and I can't even continue, after just few minutes. It's too upsetting😢

@matchhunter7012 Год назад

Why do family and close friends always make you believe that almost every victim was an angel?

@maartjegoede9330 Год назад

Just what i was thinking

@Purrfect21796 Год назад

Same thing I was thinking

@Taylorswan31 Год назад

I mean as far as true crime goes though I totally feel where you're coming from because that seems to be a common theme but I accidentally came across your comment and I couldn't help but say what I said. I'm sure if you don't ever lost anybody that you really love the very last thing that you think about or talk about is all of the negative and bad things about them. I wasn't trying to be rude though.

@Moonewitch Год назад

It's their way of trying to sanitize their memory of them & their image before the world.

@matchhunter7012 Год назад

@@Moonewitch by lying? Yeah right.

@jeanclaudevandam4974 6 месяцев назад

The family does not like to mention all the drugs she was on. Ecstasy, alchohol, weed, plus the hot tub.

@michellesmith1557 7 месяцев назад

i’m surprised a guy like that called 911 and didn’t just try to dispose of the body…which is actually what makes me think he didn’t do it

@fletcher373 6 месяцев назад

He didn't get time to plus he was too high and Clark called 911.

@Spiral.Dynamics Год назад

That’s so sad that the family has to pay wrongful death! The man killed himself! What did his family have to do with this?

@milkyo1206 Год назад

I wouldnt pay a dime

@lisawentworth6831 Год назад

@@milkyo1206 I agree...how is that anyone's fault but the person that pulled the trigger? To me, both men had guilt in the death of this woman.

@Carmen-us1ew Год назад

Ya, they couldn't prove he did it. I don't think his estate should've paid anything.

@kirstyhesketh1416 Год назад

❤

@betsykeller9096 11 месяцев назад

It may be sad, but the guy's own suicide note admitted some level of guilt in that it happened on his watch. It sucks for sure, but it's why people have homeowner's policies.

@murrkaya2305 Год назад

Drugs, sex, fantasies and a professor! Everything about this case is bizarre. Ladies, please make better choices!

@Dporvida Год назад

You’re blaming the woman here? Y’all will do anything but actually blame who is at fault

@infinite5164 Год назад

⁠@@DporvidaI mean it kinda is tho, she’s the one that chose to hangout with those weirdos

@trip4923 Год назад

@@Dporvida Are you saying she did everything that a careful, intelligent, logical person would have done?

@Douglas_Hamilton Год назад

@@Dporvida To advise women to stay away from dangerous people is not blaming women. It's common sense.

@murrkaya2305 Год назад

@@Douglas_Hamilton Thanks for having an unbiased opinion and a better reading comprehension level than at least 65% of the Internet users.

@dolinaj1 2 месяца назад

That professor’s poor judgment, heavy drinking and drug use ended with her death. Such an appalling horror story.

@hon.maambo342 7 месяцев назад

The boy is mad at his dad for a very long time that's why he wanted him gone.

@MrTweetyhack Год назад

If she was strangled, couldn't they look for signs on her neck? "findings on the neck were subtle. They could have come from resuscitation attempts" Umm,sure, squeezing the neck is a common technique

@thenewuser3100 Год назад

U made me laugh with that last line ..

@TawnyC_ Год назад

”She's on the cutting edge! Of the industry!” Okay, lady.

@phillipsmom6252 Год назад

😂😂😂😂😂

@mtaylor7307 Год назад

Bugged out.

@Lucy-ym8ch 4 месяца назад

Ecstasy and dehydration from alcohol is known to make you die even when no other risks are involved. And taking drugs when you have heart disease is a huge risk factor.

@Yobydobie 10 месяцев назад

The fact that he said “for once in his life he was a violent guy” shows that he has some guilt for accusing his friend of the crime. He can’t bring himself to *completely* defame his character.

@ct5625 3 месяца назад

Or he just knows he didn't do it, and he's been repeatedly told that someone did (even though there's no evidence of a crime). If they convinced him that she was murdered and he knew he didn't do it, then there's only one other person he could believe did it. The fact that he says the man wasn't ever violent at all to anyone, only supports the notion that this was an accidental death.

@vickieliupakka2975 Год назад

I don’t believe Clark did anything but he’s just a man with feelings and he felt guilty for being associated…if he killed her or knew what happened he would of said so in the letter.

@anneleeuwen2105 Год назад

BS of course he was responsible. Why would he commit suicide huh ?????

@x77punk77x Год назад

@@anneleeuwen2105 That’s ridiculous - sadly, there are tons of suicidal individuals all over the place, a subset of whom will attempt it relatively soon, and a subset of those who will be successful. This man was very likely already morbidly depressed and for quite a while.

@hunnyl0ve Год назад

@@x77punk77x I think this is the case. I think he either (1) knew Marcus did something to her or (2) thought she died accidentally, but in either event he simply could not live with himself knowing that this happened on his watch. Marianne's death wasn't the sole reason for his suicide, but it was the straw that broke the camel's back. I truly believe that if he was responsible he would've confessed in his letter instead of letting his surviving friend (Marcus) suffer the consequences.

@x35mmman Год назад

@@anneleeuwen2105 wasn't Clark a shrink that had charges brought up on him. Just like Marcus was on probation for drug charges, as we can see by Marcus your don't want to call the police

@ljones2087 Год назад

would've

@katiebear Год назад

Mary Anne seemed pretty dim considering she had a phd.

@marknewton6984 2 месяца назад

I have a PhD and worked with many. They tend to be weird. 😎

@peggybroady8500 Год назад

I have no idea why the victim's self-esteem was so low that she subjected herself to this man, but also the drugs and alcohol abuse, leading to many poor decisions. And I speak as a survivor of domestic violence.

@mtaylor7307 Год назад

Drinking and drugging can be self medicating for mental health issues. Depression comes to mind.

@mtaylor7307 Год назад

Glad you survived! DV isn't one size fits all. I am not sure the victim's sister is completely objective in this case. Understandable.

@ScreamingEagleFTW 11 месяцев назад

now the man gets no such consideration right? Because hes a "bad man" predator. Who cares about his self esteem and why it was so low that he engaged in the same lifestyle that she did and his poor decisions while on drugs and alcohol... he gets no such excuse only she does.. sexist much. Take responsibility for your self. Quit blaming others.

@mtaylor7307 11 месяцев назад

@@ScreamingEagleFTW wow. We were discussing the dead not the living. You Floridians really like to rant off topic and try to start culture wars. Why don't you go try to rob a Wendy's drive-through with Gator as a weapon or some such other Florida nonsense?

@volvo24091 8 месяцев назад

Survivor what? Cut out the woke nonsense.

@updownstate Год назад

Pressure on the carotid arteries kills without getting near the hyoid bone.

@JohnSmith-ef2sx Год назад

Cocaine, ecstasy , mary jane and alcohol mix can't end well.

@jimcornette4492 8 месяцев назад

The sister lying didn’t help.

@lowrider81hd Год назад

Clark took the truth to his grave. My personal opinion is he got handsey with the Prof, she refused him. He has been accused of inappropriate sexual behavior before, so… the Jury got this one right.

@AllHailKingRose Год назад

I believe the same thing. On top of that the drug ecstasy makes people want to get down, if you know what I mean. He probably went too far with her.

@lowrider81hd Год назад

@@AllHailKingRose yep definitely. The haunted look in his eyes, he knew he done fu**ed up.

@noriwilliams4637 Год назад

Agreed

@laurentobiaz2973 Год назад

@RosiePetals2727 Agreed! 💯

@dannyhernandez2203 11 месяцев назад

Marcus was accused of strangulation by eight different women!

@leahlewis6487 Год назад

I’m glad the jury came together. So often it’s automatically pointed at the partner, but this literally has zero evidence. They weren’t even onto the whole strangling thing until others called in about it. Plus they all mentioned it was only during sex, not like when fighting ect…. I may have felt different if the part with Clark didn’t happen, but that’s so bizarre. Also him admitting why he went in the woods is kinda embarrassing but leads me to think he was being legit? Idk but it’s so so sad!! Her poor family

@patedwards8844 Год назад

Only He said he went in the woods. Sounds like a story.

@seajay2157 4 месяца назад

@@patedwards8844he was high. You’d be surprised how often people dig holes or walk into woods when they are

@keving1774 Год назад

He's all smiling in court the whole time.

@imaneettouil9826 8 месяцев назад

I feel so sorry for Marianne that her life ended this way and also for Clark that left this case unexplicable.

@sarahwebb3125 Год назад

Idk about this one. The fact that Clark ran in the house & killed himself says alot & they barely even mentioned it. Just bc Marcus was her BF doesn’t mean he was the one who killed her (if anyone did). They really had very little/no proof of anything. I think the jury did a good job & the judge overrruled.

@ScreamingEagleFTW 11 месяцев назад

just because he was her BF???? wtf??

@kjj367 Год назад

“Someone to have fun time with and move along “ typical reason to be killed by that “ someone “

@wayjamus2775 Год назад

23:03 "I know my sister - she wasn't a careless person..." - With all due respect, allowing alcohol and drugs to enter her life at her age was kind of reckless. Drugs carry their own logic which is why this case is so messed up. "Hey you got acid? No, but I got ecstasy. Okay, close enough." This is the talk of druggies, not the most logical of people. But ultimately I think it had to do with sex and perhaps she didn't want to go along with it. She was strangled but instead of being unconscious, she was dead. Did Marcus offer this as payment for the ecstasy? It would explain Clark's sense of guilt.

@reneekowalsky8337 Год назад

Lol she was a beautiful person bc she cared about bugs. That’s basically what her friends said lol. Geez.

@fancyfeast4610 4 месяца назад

But also endorsed eating said beloved bugs.... 🧐

@oceanstaiga5928 Год назад

Just because you don’t like a guy doesn’t make him a murderer if you can’t prove it.. I saw no arguments near where anybody should agree “beyond a reasonable doubt” that he killed her.

@R.O.T.C._SEEM Год назад

It was a bunch of bitter women. Of course the exes are gonna say he did something to them if they ended the relationship badly.

@Lisa1111 Год назад

If you're so blotto that you don't know what's going on around you, be prepared to be the one to be blamed. Stay alert people ❤ I wasn't there but j suspect that they have the wrong man.

@brianciofani4698 Год назад

Sister 'I know my sister wasn't a careless person.' but... a highly educated adult woman is acting like a 17 year old on a fake ID, on drugs and having sex with this guy. That doesn't sound careless at all.

@yall2743 8 месяцев назад

I haven't gone through all the evidence, but I just don't believe there was enough to convict him.

@justincredible. Год назад

That suicide and the timing is *VERY* suspicious. And all those women got to tell the tail.. so.. Strange case.

@archieg8009 Год назад

Most e pills during that time period were dosed extremely high. For someone who doesn't dabble in that kind of stuff often and who is also drinking and in a hot tub, that could definitely be fatal. It would also explain why she didn't want Marcus to leave because she was probably overdosing. Often times, one pill can contain enough MDMA for 3 people. Even experienced users usually break their pills in half. She probably overdosed and Clark did what he did because he knew what it looked like and he knew he wouldn't be able to handle people thinking he had something to do with it.

@patedwards8844 Год назад

Maybe she od'd before the hot tub & never said "Marcus don't leave". We only have Marcus saying she said that. They freaked out, put her in the tub & took 2 hours to make up a story. I don't remember if the autopsy said she had water in her lungs or not.

@patedwards8844 Год назад

@@CocoAvalon maybe a little but truth is, we only have marcus' word as to how things went down & there are definitely unanswered questions rt?

@ScreamingEagleFTW 11 месяцев назад

@@patedwards8844 maybe he got Clark to become convinced it was going to be blamed on him and how horrible it was going to be in jail so he killed himself. He was pscyholgist wasnt he?

@HKim0072 10 месяцев назад

Less worried about dosage with MDMA than laced with fentanyl these days. Not sure what time period you are talking about. Her death was 2019.

@archieg8009 10 месяцев назад

@@HKim0072 Since about 2015, pills regularly contain 2 to 3 times the normal dose of MDMA. It's still like that today. And yes, the whole fentanyl thing makes it even more dangerous.

@kevinelvington9569 3 месяца назад

Nothing more disgusting than a bunch of grown adults doing drugs. How foolish.

@jamesr1703 9 месяцев назад

Well, some women do like this kind of excitement and that's why they get involved with dirtbags like this. She knew what she was dealing with.

@STYLESBYLIFEBEAUTYNMORE Год назад

Let’s be clear a substance abuse issue DOES not equal you killed your girlfriend Unpopular opinion he has nothing to do with this

@Spooky_515 Год назад

I agree

@STYLESBYLIFEBEAUTYNMORE Год назад

@@Spooky_515 AND no disrespect but was she not a grown woman trippin' balls off ecstasy in a pool .... come on now

@ginacampbell8766 Год назад

A history of strangling women does

@cedricduyongco Год назад

@@ginacampbell8766 They can't even prove conclusively that she was strangled. Do take note that an unbiased medical examiner said that strangulation was inconclusive. This unbiased medical examiner was not paid for by the defendant but rather paid for by 48 hours. So he had no motive to come up with findings that point one way or the other. And his findings say he would never call it a homicide.

@krisy-in-italy Год назад

He is a scumbag but I don’t think he killed here either. I’m sorry for her family but this bright successful woman was living a chaotic lifestyle, drinking in excess and drugs. She probably fell asleep in the hot tub or her enlarged heart had something to do with it.

@deborahwilliamson5655 Год назад

Marianne's sister sounds snarky. Perhaps it's pain over the death of her sister. Sad that they were all using drugs. Professor Shockley wasn't better than her boyfriend (both drug abusers). She was also post-3rd marriage. They were both prone to some very bad choices. However, I am human, and not judging her. Nobody gets it all right. I certainly don't. I hate that she died tragically. My condolences.

@kimmiegirl810 Год назад

I don't think sister can understand the Ecstasy and hot tubs don't mix

@deborahwilliamson5655 Год назад

@@kimmiegirl810 I think sister's heart is struggling with the death of her sister, and needs someone to blame OTHER THAN her sister. Marianne, sadly, put herself in a bad situation. Anytime drug abuse enters the equation, risk goes way up for a bad outcome. I respect your comment very much! It was very good.

@kimmiegirl810 Год назад

@@deborahwilliamson5655 I think you are right.

@KoolKat42022 Год назад

You don't judge?

@deborahwilliamson5655 Год назад

@@KoolKat42022 I so love you people who scroll through comments so you can pick a fight. Not today. Sorry.

@prettycareye3181 Год назад

There was plenty of reasonable doubt, so the jurors were correct to acquit, imo. After listening to this story, I myself had no clue how she died. The fact that Clark went and offed himself when police started asking questions was very odd & unusual and muddled the case even more. Even if he was depressed and suicidal, why do it at that exact moment? Did he do it because of a guilty conscience? Did she die as result of underlying illness, excebarated by drug use? Or did Marcus Lillard strangle her? I really could not answer after listening to this case. That letter the sister claimed to have read, pure hearsay. I am surprised she was allowed to testify about it. She seemed like she really hated the guy so who's to say she wasn't making things up? It is exactly in cases like these that a not guilty verdict is warranted, even if the defendant is not a model citizen.

@foodiesteph 8 месяцев назад

I feel like the ecstasy led to him feeling that extreme guilt. Whether Clark was guilty or not, that drug can make you feel those emotions deeply. Especially, upon the realization that someone has died… I’m sure that would be the reason why he decided to just take his life.

@prettycareye3181 8 месяцев назад

@@foodiesteph Having never taken that drug or any drugs at all, it's hard to fathom, but plausible I guess. I've heard multiple cases in which drugs, esp meth, makes people do the most bizarre homicidal or suicidal things, ie the Taylor Schabusiness case out of Wisconsin. Absolutely horrific.

@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 4 месяца назад

I don’t think Clark killed her but I think the guilt and trauma of her death, plus the fact that at age 69 if he went away for the drug dealing and failure to render aid he would’ve most likely died in prison, drove him to end his life on his own terms rather than getting sent to prison

@gabe-po9yi Год назад

Clark confirmed that Marcus had gone into the woods when he said, “When he came out of the woods..” I actually believe the crazy story about him wanting to recreate the shaman thing. Combine that with Clark refusing orders (told four times) to stay out of the crime scene and, most of all, the suicide, I believe he (Clark) killed Marianne. Being worried because a death happened at your house and that he’d given her an Ecstasy tab just doesn’t cut it as a reason to blow one’s head off. I can picture a scenario of Marcus going in the woods, Clark gets in the hot tub with Marianne, makes a pass at her, she refuses and he flips and strangles her, also being concerned she would tell Marcus.

@joutoob9 11 месяцев назад

Sounds about right... I wish they had gone into more details about any bruising, petechiae or marks on her neck though. I only saw where they said that one bone wasn't crushed. Wouldn't there be other significant signs of choking? If boyfriend was into sex choking "and he took it too far" wouldn't there be a LOT of significant signs from being choked a lot?

@michellehillman2889 11 месяцев назад

I kinda think she could of fought Clark off if that happen.

@gabe-po9yi 11 месяцев назад

@@michellehillman2889 Yeah, it looks, though, like she’d been drinking a good bit and he would’ve had the element of surprise on her, plus it’s hard to fight in water.

@michellehillman2889 11 месяцев назад

@@gabe-po9yi true I wrote that mid way through. By the end of the episode in now think maybe they did it together.

@azazello1784 10 месяцев назад

Too bad Marcus didn't bury himself permanently.

@nicoleflierl637 Год назад

I'll tell u what, after a couple of drinks, my girlfriend & I took mdma, back I the 90's, when It was pure... we would get into my hot tub, & since heat brings on the extacy high, we couldn't even climb out of the hot tub! We actually did it twice, & both times, we had to be lifted out, due to dehydration & overheating, from the mdma/alcohol mix... just my experience on that... it made me feel like when he grabbed her out, she might have been in that state, but dropped her, which after 2 hrs of two extremely high men in a confused state, & one, who refuses to call the cops, worked on her. I feel like the older man most likely Wanted to call the cops, the other guy even says that, but says No... I think that's what he feels guilty for, in my mind...

@thekongstocks Год назад

BINGO!

@mtaylor7307 Год назад

That makes the most sense. Plus, she had an enlarged heart.

@nicoleflierl637 Год назад

@@mtaylor7307 that definitely did NOT help!

@lks6248 Год назад

There’s a reason why people are ultra charismatic and can have anyone they want and it isn’t a good one. Remember, if it seems too good to be true that’s because it is!!! All the best psychopathic manipulators know this all too well……😮

@voiceoverbyluis 11 месяцев назад

Great comments by everyone. This case clearly shows that any of us could be charged with a crime at any time even when there is no physical evidence whatsoever. There was clearly a reasonable doubt when the only other witness blows his head off with a shotgun while the officers are at the scene. Why the judge allowed witnesses to testify about the sexual choking is beyond me, the prosecution could not even confirm there was sex involved that night. The juror mentions that the guy who killed himself was not on trial that day...well, he sort of was if there is a possibility he might have been involved in her death. I am truly thought the jury was going to convict. Glad they didn't, this case was one of the weakest homicides I've seen in a while. Small town injustice at its finest.

@akhonashelembe968 6 месяцев назад

Stay away from drugs people!

@marknewton6984 2 месяца назад

Stay away from lowlifes... 😮

@Virginia-ginger99 Год назад

Too much reasonable doubt to be guilty imo.

@jenniferflanagan8247 Год назад

Best to do drugs when one person there is sober and able to supervise in case of emergency. I’m not against drugs but I am against irresponsible use. Rest in peace bug professor 🦋

@Junkinsally Год назад

It’s best to be mature and responsible and not do drugs at all.

@Dporvida Год назад

@@Junkinsally or like they said. Be responsible about it….

@trip4923 Год назад

@ Lisa A Johnson thanks for the info, Nana. I hope you tossed out your medicine cabinet and bottles of wine after that statement.

@Poochielou Год назад

I just had to read again what she wrote

@jenniferflanagan8247 Год назад

@@Junkinsally let’s be reasonable and real here. People are going to use drugs. Always have and always will. There is nothing wrong with telling people to be responsible while they do it because it is inevitable.

@kgbkid1 4 месяца назад

This is unfortunate for me. I see no motive. After the old man gave them the "good thing" and then he leaned on the edge of the pool, the woman decided to get into the hot tub, her boyfriend decided to recreate a scene with his head down and passed out in the bushes. Just for those 1-2 hours. She goes into cardiac arrest during this time, or something bad with the mix of drug and alcohol. Returning from the bushes, he sees what happened (and the old man may have already known and written the letter). The old man has decided what to "do" with himself seeing the unfortunate result of the drug. The fact is that they were all very high and it ended fatally for two of them. In my opinion.

@emm.5082 7 месяцев назад

Family is in denial. If Marrianne is so intelligent why was she drinking n taking drugs. Why was she dating a guy like Marcus? Why she went to hot tub when she should know its not safe in that mental condition? She was living recklessly just like Marcus was. Sister comes up with some letter which didn't even exist. The family did their level best to blame Marcus but sister own actions led her to dangerous path. N it turned out tragically.

@meredithstebbins6303 Год назад

There’s a lot of questions unanswered in this sad case of the death of Marianne Shockley, but one of the biggest ones is how the jury could only deliberate for 38 minutes. There’s no possible way they could’ve gone over all the evidence in the trial in that short amount of time.

@savagebeast1876 Год назад

That part exactly

@gcow8328 Год назад

They were smart enough to know the guy who did it, shoot himself.

@meredithstebbins6303 Год назад

@@gcow8328 Highly doubt Clark did it. Although it did look suspicious that he shot himself right after Marianne’s death, the evidence points more towards Marcus imo.