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The Strangest State in SSBM 

Aziz Al-Yami
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In SSBM, the knockdown state has several hidden rules and properties. By knowing about them, you can not only maximize your punishes against knocked down opponents, but also take advantage of a never-before-seen advanced technique.
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@emmbeesea
@emmbeesea 3 года назад
I would've thought the strangest state in Melee would be North Carolina, but this makes more sense.
@swishing5568
@swishing5568 3 года назад
ROFL this made me laugh kinda hard
@clemmm.
@clemmm. 3 года назад
lmaooo
@dcscorch969
@dcscorch969 3 года назад
could someone explain the joke?
@siggycertified
@siggycertified 3 года назад
The sky is blue.
@calvino6949
@calvino6949 3 года назад
@@dcscorch969 It's where they stack it up.
@griffinmomsen-hudson2046
@griffinmomsen-hudson2046 3 года назад
Shoutouts to all my low level players who didn't really learn anything to implement from this video
@christopheraustin1173
@christopheraustin1173 3 года назад
There is so much knowledge here, and so little ability to implement it in any meaningful way.
@TPBvirus
@TPBvirus 3 года назад
I mean you should've at least learned how knockdown works, so you can then work from there to figure out things like tech chases or punishes. As well as learning the inner workings of how jab reset works which is vital for most of the cast as theres some punish that begins with a jab reset ie puff: jab-reset > rest, fox: jab-reset > up-smash, falcon: jab-reset > combo starter, shiek: jab-reset > down-throw, etc
@Skapes11238
@Skapes11238 3 года назад
Spectator here, I just want to be able to watch and instantly understand exactly why players do certain things or how certain interactions work. Makes the already sick gameplay even better
@DerpsGW
@DerpsGW 3 года назад
The jab reset stuff on whether you could roll is definitely intuitively implementable.
@tkri
@tkri 3 года назад
I don't even play melee and there's no way I would ever remember this while watching a tourney lol It's just interesting and fun to watch I suppose
@jarroddobben
@jarroddobben 3 года назад
"Oh what's your major?" "Honours double major in melee tech and astrophysics. But I think I'm gonna drop the physics because I don't have time to study for it after I'm done all my melee homework."
@busterdrawls8514
@busterdrawls8514 3 года назад
i need a 10 hour lo-fi vid of hax$ explaining advanced melee tech in his sultry deep voice
@lukenawrocki5042
@lukenawrocki5042 3 года назад
This is actually such a good idea
@Elundis
@Elundis 3 года назад
Kinda like the music Akira the Don makes.
@DarkwingDuc
@DarkwingDuc 3 года назад
Bold of you to assume that I am able to wait a precise amount of frames instead of randomly pressing buttons.
@elvissimo
@elvissimo 3 года назад
Hax: instead of hitting him at frame 5, wait exactly one frame later and hit him at frame 6 if you're attacking with falco back air me: y-yes...sir... *feebly fumbles with controller*
@xx-cj6ew
@xx-cj6ew 3 года назад
Me: *misses L-Cancel, air dodges off ledge, dies*
@reyminder
@reyminder 3 года назад
shout out aziz for making this video 60fps, black text cards never looked so smooth
@lightbrand_
@lightbrand_ 3 года назад
Hahahaha, you got me good
@innocentmouse5374
@innocentmouse5374 3 года назад
I don't even play melee but I love seeing people go all the way into systems like this
@mimic_ssb
@mimic_ssb 3 года назад
ooh! you should try [ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-goad2ijHBE8.html] and the other 0x A press videos (mostly by ru-vid.com ), if you haven't already!
@IAm-zo1bo
@IAm-zo1bo 3 года назад
@@mimic_ssb dude wtf are those videos
@connorthornberg
@connorthornberg 3 года назад
You'd probably also love the video about the Peach Break the Targets World Record: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FnKWKICUqWU.html Its an hour long but its so fascinating that it doesn't feel like it
@ActionGamerAaron
@ActionGamerAaron 3 года назад
Stop watching; start playing.
@LunarySSF2
@LunarySSF2 3 года назад
"transitions directly into get-up if the attack deals less than 13 hitstun" now i understand why Falcon can jab reset himself but not spacies Falcon's jab does 14h on Fox and Falco so they can buffer roll away and avoid the forced getup however it does 13h on Falcon and Sheik it also does 13h on Marth but Marth's lower gravity can't compensate for the knockback, so he avoids the jab reset a difference of just one frame in terms of hitstun could've made the Falcon vs spacies MU *much* easier lol
@NonRandomUser
@NonRandomUser 3 года назад
Remember the old days of Melee where frame data for moves/getup was already considered holy knowledge? It's come a long way in twenty years.
@Tyler-du3yl
@Tyler-du3yl 3 года назад
Nobody can say this isn't the most nuanced fighting game of all-time..
@trouncerrredits
@trouncerrredits Год назад
you might be right but let me try: "this is the most nuanced fighting game of all-time" nope. it just auto-corrected every time i tried.
@sinisterhiss
@sinisterhiss 3 года назад
Aziz is so thoroughly a Fox main now that I can only imagine he did something hugely symbolic like throw his electric guitar into a volcano after staring into it pensively for 8 minutes when he made the decision to drop Falcon for good.
@trouncerrredits
@trouncerrredits Год назад
it was a mirror. to this day, he still doesn't know if it was he that shattered it, or his reflection.
@TheMonarchOfTetris
@TheMonarchOfTetris 3 года назад
This is such an indepth video. It's crazy that melee is still be analyzed to such a high level to this very day. Love the content Hax.
@acr1327
@acr1327 3 года назад
Hax uploads execution testing me seeing how fast i can click on 'em
@blackghostcat
@blackghostcat 3 года назад
I swear, eventually melee players gonna be able to count frames during gameplay
@dunK1x
@dunK1x 3 года назад
Thats pretty much what every high skilled melee player does to get frame perfect execution
@Alex-sq8xm
@Alex-sq8xm 3 года назад
I was hoping there would be a joke about how the Arizona smash scene is the strangest state in SSBM
@Pslamist
@Pslamist 3 года назад
Strangest, in some ways, but we're also one of the most community-driven, in my opinion.
@doggo6131
@doggo6131 3 года назад
8:07 It seems Yoshi just bounces off the air molecules
@jactotum
@jactotum 3 года назад
I can't express enough how much you do for the nouveux melee scene. Every Doc kid and rollback scrub trying to get better at the game needs to watch your videos. You're doing a great thing for the community.
@zsdghl
@zsdghl 3 года назад
Y'know, these videos make me question whether anyone loves Melee as much as Hax
@jacintotamez8597
@jacintotamez8597 3 года назад
Tyler nice profile pic, probably my 2nd favorite ELO album
@tariqalsuhaibany2056
@tariqalsuhaibany2056 3 года назад
Finally someone made sense of one of the most mysterious aspects of melee. Thank you Senpai
@ParagonPKC
@ParagonPKC 3 года назад
Holy moly I mean I knew you could tipper the bounce but I did not know the game states behind it
@drewmetra
@drewmetra 3 года назад
Great video Hax!! I love your channel and these scripts! Just a small grammar correction if i may. You should say, for example, 'if he HAD entered downdamage...' instead of 'if he WOULD HAVE entered downdamage...' The formula for the past conditional comes in two parts: 'if he had ____, he would have _______' and sometimes we mix them up. Cheers!
@Maquox
@Maquox 3 года назад
Master Hax$, I see your findings hitting the mainstream in 2 years. Godspeed.
@Jfoltz39
@Jfoltz39 3 года назад
these melee lectures are so sleek. thanks hax
@versutus2699
@versutus2699 3 года назад
Hax back with the easy to understand educational content. Picked up right where you left off and the quality still as good as ever
@doggles9285
@doggles9285 3 года назад
bro I was literally just wandering why dair shine wouldn't work sometimes, and why they would become actionable so fast after getting hit with shine. thanks hax
@2saint
@2saint 3 года назад
All my questions with this game have been answered
@kidsmitty94
@kidsmitty94 3 года назад
omg ive honestly been wondering about why fox looks like that when he gets shined
@kegstandjesus
@kegstandjesus 3 года назад
God damn you nailed the editing at 9:05. Most videos would have played them both at the same time side by side. God bless. I see u ✊😔
@rocketchris853
@rocketchris853 3 года назад
when i heard him say "knock" in the beginning, I immediately thought he was about to say a knock knock joke.
@X0v3r
@X0v3r 3 года назад
Love ur in depth melee info hax. Keep up the good work
@yelv
@yelv 3 года назад
Hax before: Here’s how you can live forever in melee Hax now: Jab reset is deeper than you think.
@64kamui
@64kamui 3 года назад
This videos are awesome hax! I research stuff on smash 64 and always get new ideas to test from your vids. Btw, in smash 64 characters always stay grounded during no-tech. Usually the mechanics are much more simple.
@phil_matic
@phil_matic 3 года назад
Honestly, with all the things that were learned about Melee since its release, you could make a college course following it and that still won't be enough time to learn everything
@setstage
@setstage 3 года назад
If the staleness adds multiplicatively then the actual percent down would be ~38% down or 62.8% of original attack strength with 9 stales. It would only be 45 if the percents were added and then multiplied and maybe they are I’m honestly not sure but it matters for the math.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 3 года назад
Very informative & interesting! Thanks for uploading!
@nickstoltz8817
@nickstoltz8817 3 года назад
100% quality no bullshit, hard research that he's sharing with the community. This kind of commitment is rare in the present day.
@mimic_ssb
@mimic_ssb 3 года назад
I recently picked up Falcon and have been frustrated at the "randomness" of getting a follow-up off of stomp after missed tech. This helps a lot! I'm not good enough to take advantage of the anti-floorhugging technique in the same way, say, Leffen or Hbox are, but now I know to at least try and aim for the aerial frames of GroundBound when using nonspike moves ^_^
@rangodash
@rangodash 3 года назад
You.....picked up falcon? Why?
@mimic_ssb
@mimic_ssb 3 года назад
@@rangodash for fun! My hands and brain aren't fast enough for Fox, but I wanted a change from Marth, and Falcon's combo game is really satisfying (and pretty easy lol)
@Pslamist
@Pslamist 3 года назад
@@mimic_ssb - It's really easy to fall in love with his movement.
@mimic_ssb
@mimic_ssb 3 года назад
@@Pslamist he's so cool! It took me a while to understand that being on a platform wasn't a bad thing - Marth so seldomly wants to be anywhere other than the ground
@jrkb89
@jrkb89 3 года назад
Bro idk wtf you saying but I enjoy your voice. Liked
@maffooo2040
@maffooo2040 3 года назад
I love these videos so much man
@bridji3748
@bridji3748 3 года назад
The Pannenkoek2012 of Melee
@blakemcgill8406
@blakemcgill8406 3 года назад
Fantastic work man.
@jessehoag6770
@jessehoag6770 3 года назад
Great video for a ice climber main! Keep it up 👍
@sandygast9766
@sandygast9766 3 года назад
Hax be like: In conclusion Fox has the best getup
@zekehorsman9532
@zekehorsman9532 3 года назад
I’ve always wondered why that happens when falco shines half to time thanks hax
@ConnorRentz
@ConnorRentz 3 года назад
Glad we're back! :D
@johnleecooper8520
@johnleecooper8520 3 года назад
at last we''ve come full circle to missing techs being bad again
@acidwash.anakin
@acidwash.anakin 2 года назад
Bruh I was floorhugging and didn’t even know it! This makes so much sense! Thank you!
@InsertChannelHere
@InsertChannelHere 3 года назад
Fucking love your videos and everything you bring to Melee. Even love your clickbait ass titles. You have like a patreon or something I know Hax fucking money doesn't need handouts but I'd love a method to show my support other than the unwavering love and passion we share for this game.
@gaugea
@gaugea 3 года назад
hax vids so goddamn good
@saraht6143
@saraht6143 3 года назад
High quality content, thank you hax for sharing with us how to kill fox better (Y)
@Ignes27
@Ignes27 3 года назад
my god hax, you're doing the lord's work
@ajko000
@ajko000 3 года назад
Hell yeah new video
@riosol8950
@riosol8950 3 года назад
Thank you so much. I never knew why people would fly out of my shine sometimes ;]
@michaelriccio6012
@michaelriccio6012 3 года назад
So does the ecb not matter when using spike/meteor moves? The was it was phrased made it seem like the only thing that mattered for these moves was the fact that they were airborne frames.
@SleepayGui
@SleepayGui 3 года назад
Anyone know if hitlag is variable? The final examples made it sound like they are but I wouldn’t be surprised if they also scaled based on stuff like stale moves
@bruceU
@bruceU 3 года назад
this actually explains so much about jab resets dependence on states that i should have already known
@clutchedbyanangel
@clutchedbyanangel 3 года назад
5:27 Hold UP? Blasphemy.
@MrTacticalinuit
@MrTacticalinuit 3 года назад
Knockdown is the Florida of melee
@dariusmartinez4078
@dariusmartinez4078 3 года назад
sick thank you
@thebigawesome9101
@thebigawesome9101 3 года назад
the becoming actionable after shine thing has been happening to me all the time. Now i know why (its because I spam shine).
@eftorq
@eftorq 3 года назад
I’ll watch this video inside, the wind makes it too hard to hear
@MaximusXavier
@MaximusXavier 3 года назад
Came for the Florida, stayed for the knockdown
@jadchi
@jadchi 3 года назад
Thanks
@Hugehugebighuge
@Hugehugebighuge 3 года назад
wow dad thanks
@jacobjohns6806
@jacobjohns6806 3 года назад
Could you sdi or asdi down to deny the floor hug denial?
@myboy_
@myboy_ 3 года назад
This is the gimrs lab of melee
@charleslucas911
@charleslucas911 3 года назад
I fucking love your videos Aziz
@Joshuakim378
@Joshuakim378 3 года назад
Melee is sick
@Sadlyevil2000
@Sadlyevil2000 3 года назад
Very good for learn nice
@NesDaKid
@NesDaKid 3 года назад
to this day, i refuse to believe Melee was an “accident “
@AssailantLF
@AssailantLF 3 года назад
I mean half of the characters are practically unviable competitively, 6 out of 18 stages are tournament legal, and none of the major tech skills (L-cancel, jump cancel, wave dash, etc) are mentioned anywhere in the game or the official manual. Also every sequel Smash game has gone out of its way to either not include, or include + severely nerf any of the cool tech skills from Melee. I think it was overall an accident, although certain high-skill moves that benefit competitive play were added intentionally, like L-canceling and wave dashing.
@falcolom
@falcolom 2 года назад
@@AssailantLF wavedashing wasn't intentional, it was a quirk of the physics engine that the devs decided to leave in
@teentitans0789
@teentitans0789 3 года назад
0:44 how did you do the Corneria taunt?
@NaJk93
@NaJk93 3 года назад
Melee is turning into a fucking math equation in real time. oh wait, it always was. We are just advancing in the courses the more tech is found.
@0tf850
@0tf850 3 года назад
Is this the counter to the recent slide off meta development?
@correadoggsten
@correadoggsten 3 года назад
yup
@NicholasSunderland
@NicholasSunderland 3 года назад
SICK
@CLSharpman5000
@CLSharpman5000 3 года назад
When did Amsah Tech get re-branded as "floor hug"?
@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote
@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote 3 года назад
what are the red ecb’s that trail behind used for?
@Brawltendo
@Brawltendo 3 года назад
Those represent the previous frame’s ECB position, which I believe are used to help calculate and correct the final position of the ECB along with the white outline around the orange one in the front that acts as a prediction of its position to an extent.
@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote
@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote 3 года назад
Brawltendo thank you
@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote
@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote 3 года назад
Brawltendo I wanna be able to recreate the system close enough in unity (for fun) so im trying to learn as much as i can about how it’s made
@Mepphy99
@Mepphy99 3 года назад
Cool tech but Should these really work normally or It Is Just a "melee Is a broken game" situation?
@MelbournePenguin
@MelbournePenguin 3 года назад
Lol hax is such s Virgo its so awesome how detailed and analytical he is
@sonesofficial
@sonesofficial 3 года назад
Shoutout to my colorblind melee players who cant read the graphs in this video
@jackgregory8608
@jackgregory8608 3 года назад
Really cool vid, my only suggestion is to add some background music. It’ll help keep the audience invested.
@alexcarlone7967
@alexcarlone7967 3 года назад
Hax Money, PhD.
@whong09
@whong09 3 года назад
Y'all really out here researching melee like it's the cure to cancer. I love it.
@nosocx6570
@nosocx6570 3 года назад
You need a PhD in melee to fully understand it
@Nagstersept109868
@Nagstersept109868 3 года назад
I swear to god this game is some sort of massive government, illuminatti, or alien conspiracy. It's too ridiculous to just be a video game.
@textede40
@textede40 3 года назад
very coo
@unknown-hj4gh
@unknown-hj4gh 3 года назад
You could add your melee mathematics frame perfect into a super advanced AI & challenge real player against it.
@richdavis9690
@richdavis9690 3 года назад
I love it when you get all dirty with me when talking about melee.
@jeffethegamingadvocate2821
@jeffethegamingadvocate2821 3 года назад
Florida
@robo-rex0239
@robo-rex0239 3 года назад
Bruh moment
@samrandall6623
@samrandall6623 3 года назад
It just get deeper
@sethswoodruff
@sethswoodruff 3 года назад
Is this why ness dash attack is the way it is?
@futurefox128
@futurefox128 3 года назад
Thanks to this video I successfully managed to miss DK's down-B on an opponent during DownBound ⌉O_o⌈
@joe4570
@joe4570 3 года назад
why do you get more histun at higher percent?
@zachstarattack7320
@zachstarattack7320 3 года назад
You just do. The equatiom for hitlad checks the damage and knockbackb a move does. Also, it just looks cooler that way
@joe4570
@joe4570 3 года назад
@@zachstarattack7320 but that's more hitlag not hitstun?
@joe4570
@joe4570 3 года назад
@@zachstarattack7320 is that universal? So if i get hit by the same hitbox at 0 and 100 percent I'm in more hitstun at 100 percent?
@zachstarattack7320
@zachstarattack7320 3 года назад
​@@joe4570 Honestly, just look at all the vid from this guy. Especially this one. He goes so hard into this. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c93Fwem-ngw.html
@darwingreenheart
@darwingreenheart 3 года назад
mfs smash graphs don't have enough annotations edit: ECB - ethereal collision blob
@cooperdunn3808
@cooperdunn3808 3 года назад
M2K be like I knew this before you where born kid
@SledgehammerIRE
@SledgehammerIRE 3 года назад
Hey Hax$ you're handsome
@RareBrink
@RareBrink 3 года назад
tl;dw - use moves that do less than 7% to jab reset, hit people after they bounce off the ground to stop them from floor hugging.
@jifxyz
@jifxyz 3 года назад
melee asmr?
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt 3 года назад
hey hax ur handsome
@twopointjumper
@twopointjumper 3 года назад
Does he have a twitch?
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