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The Super Conditioner - Hay Conditioning Dries Faster and is More Resilient 

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The Super Conditioner - Hay Conditioning. Find out more about why Circle C has reinvented the hay conditioning process - it dries fast, is greener, more resilient and remains more nutrients. Find out more at haytalk.com

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26 авг 2024

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Комментарии : 58   
@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin
@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin 5 лет назад
So... How do they compare to steel finger flail conditioner??? We had one, loved it!!! Worked well in grass, clover and alfalfa. Biggest Question, how much to convert a New Holland H7230?????
@oby-1607
@oby-1607 2 года назад
More interested in the air bag pressure system. Saw it on the baler too for the bale pressure.
@ryanloughren7839
@ryanloughren7839 9 лет назад
Just use steel rollers
@timh9407
@timh9407 4 года назад
I've always heard though the sap is where a lot of nutrition is??
@BLYFACTOR
@BLYFACTOR 5 лет назад
Who waits a week to bale hay? rain could be a factor? when its 80-90 degress
@stevenbetassa7329
@stevenbetassa7329 5 лет назад
this is Central Washington, where timothy hay is raised, most if it will be exported to the Far East. Moisture must be 6 to 10% , and no more then 12% . on 120lbs bale, 3 tie. First cutting is around 4 to 41/2 ton per acre, and 2nd cutting about 2 or 21/2 ton. Very little rain in the Summer, as most of the moisture falls in late Fall, Winter, and Spring. have low humidity, like Southern Nevada.
@philliplopez4020
@philliplopez4020 5 лет назад
A couple days??? What part of the ocean do you live in to wait so long?
@cameronnalley3197
@cameronnalley3197 4 года назад
Phillip Lopez dude said 8 days waiting for it to dry 🥴
@telstraoranamall7680
@telstraoranamall7680 4 года назад
Great idea
@PaulChristenson
@PaulChristenson 4 года назад
A Tedder will help the drying process
@edwinschwartz2472
@edwinschwartz2472 3 года назад
And using a Krone disc-mower conditioner with impeller and a Krone Tedder beats all other methods hands down, and you can bale in 3 days ! This REALLY cuts down on chances of rain damage.
@hairymanonetwo
@hairymanonetwo 5 лет назад
Most farmers now days use an acid to help in baling wet hay. ( propaonic acid ) Nothing wrong with its use. However make the comparison buy offering a cow naturally dried hay compared to the large tight bales where hay would spoil unless you use an acid. Hands down the cows will eat the naturally dried hay !! Hay treated with acid stinks ! My cows production dropped like a rock when I tried to feed these large bales. I called around to find naturally dried hay. It dont exist ! I had two semi loads of which I refused. The cows would not even look at that hay. How is a dairy farmer suppose to profit feeding that hay ? Since then.... 17 yrs ago.....I switched to baleage hay. Major change in my dairy farming operation......and great production. It takes the weather risk out of baling hay. Cut it and bale it the same day. Also....you can almost gain another 1/2 crops of hay per year because your on the field and off in a day. Compared to up to four days of tire traffic with getting hay dry. If you have 4 cutting per year....save three days of tire traffic...thats 12 days.... extra growing time !
@lukestrawwalker
@lukestrawwalker 4 года назад
Silage bales are fine for dairy cattle I'm sure they're WAY better than acid-treated hay for sure. BUT, this is EXPORT hay, so they want it DRY. Later! OL J R :)
@farmcentralohio
@farmcentralohio 4 года назад
Most farmers know what they're doing when it comes to making hay and don't need to add acid to it lol The acid is used by the lazy, non educated folks.
@hairymanonetwo
@hairymanonetwo 4 года назад
@@farmcentralohio That would include 100% percent of the farmers that bale large square bales then ( over 50% of the hay baled ). Square bales are packed so tight they cant breath. They will mold /rot if baled with no acid.
@farmcentralohio
@farmcentralohio 4 года назад
@@hairymanonetwo lol over 50% use large square bales? yeah, that number is incorrect, but you go ahead trying to sound smart :)
@hairymanonetwo
@hairymanonetwo 4 года назад
@@farmcentralohio Not about being smart.....just reality. Here in Northeastern Iowa over 50% of the hay sold at local auctions are large squares. Its because of the " wide load " issues relating to permits in hauling hay. Round bales are too wide....squares are of size to haul with out permits. Each town/ city / county/ and a state permit is needed to haul over sized loads. Major expense to haul large rounds !
@CougarLand
@CougarLand 7 лет назад
1:28 "six, seven, eight days" to dry hay?..OMG 3:32 You actually thought cutting the hay into tighter thicker rows would dry it out faster?..OMG
@hairymanonetwo
@hairymanonetwo 5 лет назад
Id agree.....this is foolish!!!!!! Living in Iowa where its very humid during the summer..... still get hay dry in a few days....not 3 and 4 days ! Go balage hay.......much better quality......no leaf loss.or stem loss. Cut and bale the same day....on and off the field provides for almost an extract crop per year. Should be able to get 6 crops per year !
@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin
@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin 5 лет назад
@@hairymanonetwo not everyone likes baleage, some animals don't do well on it either... In NW Oregon, e en silage takes a day or two to get wilted down, most silage will be ten or more tons per acre. Our grass hay runs 4+ tons per acre. And we have ground moisture. We currently have a New Holland with rubber rolls, don't like it. It takes 5 to 8 days, usually tedding twice. We had a John Deere with the flail conditioner, with that we made 3 or 4 day hay...
@hairymanonetwo
@hairymanonetwo 5 лет назад
@@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin When I first started using baleage My vet told me it would kill horses. Later found out he had no idea what he was talking about ! In fact its one of the better feeds for horses. Just have to feed it limited. The reason most people dont like baleage is because they refuse to change their ways or even try something new. Im familiar with weather conditions. Here in Iowa this year its been extremely wet. Rains almost every day. Still.... most days I cut and bale the hay the same day. Mostly depends on if I can get on the ground to do the work.Question: ......why windrow the hay in tight windrows ? In my 15 years doing baleage...Ive never tedded the hay. Biggest issue is making sure its raked at least 2 hours before baling. Many balers cant bale it wet. If raked 2 hours before baling it changes everything !
@stevenbetassa7329
@stevenbetassa7329 5 лет назад
@@hairymanonetwo this is Central Washington, raising Timothy hay, most it it will be exported to the Far East. baling requires 6 to 12% moisture, on 120lbs 3tie bales. We have very little rain in the Summer months, temps are 80 to 100 and low humidity, and lots of winds.
@lukestrawwalker
@lukestrawwalker 4 года назад
@@hairymanonetwo Dry hay sold for export changes everything-- nobody is gonna pay to haul all the extra water tonnage in wrapped balage, and deal with handling issues and spoilage issues from punctured wrap. TOTALLY different kind of haymaking. Later! OL J R :)
@mrvarus8957
@mrvarus8957 6 лет назад
Don't you lose the nutrients in the plant by crushing it ????
@thedukeproductions9080
@thedukeproductions9080 5 лет назад
No. Cause it's still green it retails the leaf. It's the stem u want to dry down as fast as the leaf
@carmineredd1198
@carmineredd1198 5 лет назад
stem no good, nutrients are mostly in the leaf
@MaxwellPSmart
@MaxwellPSmart 6 лет назад
Won't this crushed product risk colic in horses?
@andrewskirmontskirmont5386
@andrewskirmontskirmont5386 3 года назад
Spread it out? Yeah no shit
@cliffschadt5171
@cliffschadt5171 5 лет назад
6 7 8 days to dry! We would never get hay in up state NY. There has to be a better way!
@carmineredd1198
@carmineredd1198 5 лет назад
cut it and put it in the barn the same day like the old fashioned farmers did
@stevenbetassa7329
@stevenbetassa7329 5 лет назад
this is in Central Washington, a area which gets around 10 to 12 inches of moisture a years, and very little rain in the Summer months, and lots of 80 to 100 temps and wind. can't bale over 12% moisture, on 120lbs bales, 6 to 10% is desire.
@carmineredd1198
@carmineredd1198 5 лет назад
barn has no dryer ? how prehistoric
@hairymanonetwo
@hairymanonetwo 5 лет назад
@@carmineredd1198 Very simple..bale it wet...make baleage out of it ! Cut and bale it the same day ! Very high quality long stemmed hay ! I was told it would kill a horse until one day I got a phone call asking me how many bales I had to sell... I asked what she was going to use it for. She told me she feeds it to her horses. Had done that for 10 years. The real problem is...most farmers are stuck in their old ways of doing things. Wont change !
@hairymanonetwo
@hairymanonetwo 5 лет назад
@@stevenbetassa7329 The simple answer it to bale it wet....baleage hay ! Cut it and bale it the same day.. very high quality feed. No leaf loss.....and still long stemmed. Best feed a person can have ! Done it for 17 years !
@memyselfandifarmer
@memyselfandifarmer 4 года назад
1:40, has no clue !!
@yesterdayfarm5273
@yesterdayfarm5273 5 лет назад
Odd choice of voice-over artist: somewhat annoying!
@ryanloughren7839
@ryanloughren7839 9 лет назад
Buy a macdon
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