Great review. In my opinon the Giulia Quadrifofglio has more character than a BMW M3. And for the design Alfa Romeo is much better than any other car brand. The Giulia is probably the best sport sedan on the market, it's more unique than German competitors.
@@DEVILTAZ35 not sure that this is the case with this one. Dont be acting like the German cars are never braking down it's a fucking prejudice based on the Alfa 156 and some other cars the brand has released.
@@DEVILTAZ35 here in the UK the warranty stats have Alfa ranked the same as the Germans. All have between 83% and 86% of cars without any problems. Alfa rank higher than Audi and Mercedes and are 1% behind BMW. The only German car currently high on the list is Porsche. Alfa's unreliable tag has not been relative for a good 10 to 15 years now. It was earnt with poor electronics and rust during the 80s and early 90s. I've had 2 Alfa's and 108000 miles out of the last one (2010 Giulietta Cloverleaf) without a single problem. I am now on the Giulia Veloce so far without a single issue.
I bought one of these 6 months ago and it’s fantastic. I’m also fortunate enough to have owned many performance cars from AMG to Lotus and everything in between. I currently also own a Porsche track car, and I’ve driven most super cars and performance cars from the past decade or so. It does feel very much like a Ferrari, and it doesn’t feel anything like an M3/M4. The other car it reminds me of is the McLaren 570s. It has the same level of chuckability, grip and playfulness. Even my wife spends most of the time driving in race mode with traction control off. It’s disappointing that you didn’t drive it in race mode (which automatically turns off the traction control and opens up the exhaust valves, and tightens the drivetrain further) as this transforms the car from a fast performance sedan to a slightly less insane Ferrari F12 or 812 (again, I’ve driven both in anger on multiple occasions). I see people who talk about comparing this to the M3 and it’s just so different. Even the M4 GTS doesn’t have the same feeling of playfulness that the Alfa has. To each their own, but to put it simply it’s as good as every review you read on it.
You must be referring to the Series 1. From Series 2, you don't need to drive it in 'Race' mode to open the exhaust valves. Totally agree that this car doesn't feel like a BMW F80/G80. To begin with, the artificial engine sound in the cabin especially in the G80, is quite tragic. The German may be the fastest now, but always less emotive and less pure. Its similar ZF automatic box is also more ordinary and boring compared to the Giulia. Steering and ride of the Italian is comparable to previous 911 models.
@@nessuno5403 yeah, I was referring to the one he is driving which is a pre-facelift. If anybody owns the pre-facelift you can also get it mapped to open the valves in D mode, or buy valve controller that uses a key fob. Both are about £400. You can also do a stage 1 remap which takes it to 600bhp if you fancy it.
What makes Giulia so good, is that they developed the Giulia Quadrifoglio first. The chassis, engine, drivetrain - the model they wanted was this. When they got that perfected, then they did the lesser Giulia models (Veloce, the diesels etc). What Germans usually do is they release the non performance models and then make the changes to regular chassis, engine to be performance oriented M cars.
Criminally underrated car. Lapped the Nurburgring 13 seconds quicker than the M4 of the time. Had 500 hp vs the F80 M3's 430hp, in fact BMW JUST matched the Alfa's power with the latest M3. The Beemer can't touch it in the style department though.
Great review! I will never part with my 2017 Giulia QV. Yesterday I picked it up from the shop after the Squadra Tuning remap. It makes a brilliant car even better. Highly recommended.
Will beat a stock m3 on a straight. Suspension on these cars out the factory are extremely bad. Will not beat anyone on a twisty road. Just my personal experience
@@digiilovo9177 i heard many reviews about the qv and the old 2017/2018 had different suspension tuning from the new model year that can be a lot nimbler but soft, model years most of the times correct past errors such this
The best thing about this car that really makes it stand out from the others is the steering, it is so quick and doesn’t feel numb, you feel like a hero.
It's good to have choices. The Alfa is a worthy effort from a guy (now deceased), who wanted to restore the brand. I'm team BMW but I tip my hat to the Alfa guys. We all have good cars and it's fun to compare notes.
God I want one so bad. Easily the best sports sedan of the last 15 years. It actually has character compared to 95% of new cars. The handling is absolutely sublime. It is a 4 door Ferrari.
I'm a poor guy who has no chance to buy a Quadrifoglio but i don't care, it will be my dream car forever and i still enjoy all the videos i found about this brilliant car. Best wishes all the owners and if i can give you a tip: never sell this car, the last true sport sedan built before the era of electrification. Cuore Sportivo #forzaAlfa🍀
It's been a lot of fun, Marcus! Thanks for having me and the car. Love your review! Truly, it's a car you need to experience in person to fully appreciate.
Thanks for sharing this. I got to ride in one once and almost got a ti sport but got a civic type r instead. No video so far does justice for the exhaust. Gotta be there it sounds so much better
This car is an absolute riot to pilot. Stunning looks, precise steering, delectably loud yet not obnoxious, and power that puts one in awe of this beast. Zero issues 4 years and counting. It’s a keeper.
I’ve had mine for over three years. I never considered the BMW. There was something a little too cliché about buying an M3. I don’t particularly care for the attention that it gets in terms of people wanting to race me at stoplights and teenage boys taking pictures of it all the time but it comes with the territory. The M3 is too common I guess
@@NBASFAN front wheel drive. Not a sports car. Also not in the same price (half the cost. Less advanced at least in theory because it’s an economy car at its core.) category or segment by any stretch of the imagination.Too many people worship at the altar of so-called reliability. If you want reliability you don’t get a cracked out stressed out sports car of any type. You get a Toyota Corolla. Probably beige. Clarkson said it best Because if you want a small, fast saloon car, what you absolutely have to have is an Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio. Now, for this to be a proper Alfa Romeo, there must be… something wrong with it. Think about it; A person who is kind to his mother, punctual, sober and well-dressed; he’s an Audi. And nobody wants a friend like that. If you’re going to form a relationship with a car, if you’re going to develop a bond, it’s got to have human qualities. And if it’s going to have human qualities, it’s got to have faults. And this car, I’m delighted to say, has his faults.” My car has only had one small issue in 3 1/2 years of ownership. The oil level light was confused and needed to be reset. Other than that it has been fine. I don’t like the last service that I had to pay for that was $2800 but that’s what you do for cars like this.
My favorite ultra high performance compact luxury sedan. some stiff competition in it's class with the M3, RS4, AMG c63s... but this is on a whole other level according to owners and reviewers
Alfas will always come first for us over the German makes. The Giulia is fantastic and turns just as many heads as a ferrari i must say. That’s what we’ve noticed and the amount of people who exclaim “ that’s a very beautiful car” -“ wow!” Reliability seems to be very good.
Great review there, the Alfa Romeo is a great car and the Guilia Quadroflogio represents everything the brand stands for and believe me it's not cheap, I've owned Alfa's , Porsches and BMW's over the years and believe me there is no car out there like an Alfa Romeo, it's super fun to race especially interstate...now I must get me my third Alfa Romeo.,this Guilia will be a great buy.
Great review, but next time put it in race mode and have some fun. I love my 2019 Giulia QV so much, we bought a 2020 Stelivo QV to match it. Its such a fun car and my god is it fast. Mine is almost to 60k miles and no real issues with it at all, to be fair I haven't owned it for all 60k miles so who knows what happened before I got it. Its a dying breed of driver car for sure. I came from a 2018 Dodge Charger Scat Pack (485hp/475ftlb) (4,395) and loved it but the Alfa (503hp/443ftlb) (3,806 lbs) is just in another league. That almost 600lb difference makes the alfa much much faster, 3.8 0-60 vs 4.6 in the charger (in a perfect scenario with a good driver). Mine is Vesuvio Gray which, when clean, has a nice sparkle to it but for all intents and purposes is still a gray car. People still stop and stare at it because its just not something you see all the time... But now the wife's Stelvio gets all the looks because she had it wrapped Chameleon lol!
Have an M3 Comp and a Quad and both are 2022 MY. The M3 is great, but somehow I am always reaching for the keys to the Quad. Rides better, steers better, is much more fluid in how it drives and it sounds supreme. It is also very comfortable.
Enjoying mine so far as well and definitely prefer it over the F82 M4 I had. There are a few weird things to get used to if you're coming from german cars (I might do a video on the specifics) but most of them aren't really negatives, just different. The only thing I think actually lets the car down is the brake by wire system. Even after several months and 3 different types of brake pads, I still don't like how the brake pedal feels. But yeah it is a shame you don't see more of them around, as they deserve just as much of a following as the M3/M4 gets.
Never seen one in person, however I have seen the Stelvio QF, and the sound is absolutely! Truly sounded like a NA V8 Ferrari mixed with some AMG or Gt350 V8 rumble. Coming from a 2.9T V6... Just incredible. I followed him for a little over a mile out of my way cuz I couldn't get enough. I'm assuming the Giulia Q4 sounds identical, unless they're exhaust set up isn't quite the same. I know I would not think twice between the m4 and the Giulia Q4. Enjoy it 👍
I'm sad to hear that it's not marketed well across the ocean. Here in Europe and even in Eastern Europe where Im from all the car guys instantly knew about this car as soon as it get released and everybody even knew that it had beaten the Benz and the BMW at Nürburgring. Otherwise what can I say This is THE PERFECT CAR!!! And I know a lot of guys that actually are not fan of Alfa like my self that say the same thing!
My wife chose Stelvio over Macan and glc amg due to driving dynamics and looks Even the base 2 liter turbo is better than that in Audi, bmw and Mercedes’ and she loves it
These cars are awesome! I have one myself. They are reliable they have software issues every now and then but believe me a BMW or AMG would see more service than this car. It's all talk from people who repeat things of the past or magnify some small when the car has an issue. This car isn't intended to be an Honda or Toyota. It's an high performance super sedan It's not perfect but it's most definitely one of the best high powered cars that isn't actually a true supr car that you can own. These cars are phenomenal. Until you take it to its limit you would never know how incredibly awesome it is. I will never get rid of mine because I know it will end up being a sought after car
@@DEVILTAZ35 I’ve done my research, as I do when purchasing any car. It’s true Alfas have had poor reputation in the past but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. Besides mine is brand new with 3 year warranty anyway and I never hold onto cars longer than 1-2 years 🤣
@@DEVILTAZ35 I have owned 4 Alfas in a row. Not a problem. My 5th Alfa is a 2nd hand Guilia QV 2 years ago. Again, no problem. I hope you can revisit your stereotype.
@@DEVILTAZ35 carbuyer, driverpower, autoexpress, carthrottle, whatcar and even more are all sources that proof your unreliability about Alfa wrong. If you dont like the car and you want to be a real enthusiast than stick with your own and dont talk bs.
The fact that the m3 is being mentioned in this video and comments speaks volumes in itself. I chose an m3 comp instead of this to compliment my m2 l already own. Believe it or not it came down to the extra seat to the m3 (5 seats) considering they were neck and neck in performance.
This car is on another league compared to the m3. The engine is so much more exciting and full of character! It looks more like a coupe rather than a sedan. The steering is one of the best in business. The suspension makes it more liveable than the m3. I think its the cars best feature!
Honestly I prefer this over the g80, but not the f80. I think the qv would've killed sales if it was a dct similar to a 458, aka getrag 7sp. That shit is amazing, and they literally put it in so many hypercars about 5 years to a decade ago. The shifts are violent and satisfying; Way better then the BS they have now, since everyone needs to go as fast as possible and needs a ZF for daily-driving. Would as buy this car if it was NA 6cyl version of the f458 engine, and 10k less. That engine is art.
I'd take this over the new M3. That buckteeth model is quite ugly from the front in particular. This Giulia looks good front or back and that engine is cooler too :)
Most Americans don't care about driving feel. They care more about infotainment. And that's a shame. I love mine. At 45k, it has been perfectly reliable.
As opposed to what brans? It's just confirmation bias at this point. BMWs Mercs and even Toyota now, all have many serious issues and recalls yet no one cares... Alfa gets some issues (not more severe or commonly occurring) and everyone loses their shit. It's a self perpetuated meme.
"Could’ve Killed the M3"? It dit kill the M3 of the F80 generation. That's why the new M3 (G20) is so good, the Italians woke them up. And I still prefer this Alfa above any other sports sedan.
You are reviewing a Series 1 hence the very direct steering ratio (now since revised) and its past electronics/battery issues. At 3:21 you are wrong - it's not the Traction Control system that curtails acceleration, but the tuning (like on a Ferrari), which limits torque in the lower gears.
I drive a 2.0T Ti Sport. It's never given me any issues. Been to the track with it, 2,500 mile road trips. It's an amazing car. Soon will upgrade to a Quadrifoglio 😅
carbuyer, driverpower, autoexpress, carthrottle, whatcar and even more are all sources that proof Alfas unreliability wrong. Drive it like you want, if you want nearly 0 problems than buy japanese cars.
With owning one of these and a 2018 m3 I will admit the m3 is bulletproof, I get in it everyday and never worry, I never have a doubt I’ll make it somewhere and I throughly enjoy the car. The Giulia Quad on the other hand is hit or miss….ive owned the car nearly 5 months and have yet to have it in my garage more than a week. It’s been sitting at the dealership for issue after issue after issue. Right when I thought they were resolved I figured I’d take it on an easy road trip, it turned into a terrible experience and nearly left me stranded 5 hours from home. Without a doubt the Giulia is the better driving car, the f80 is the more enjoyable car to own though. Both sound great and I actually prefer how the bmw sounds….the Giulia so far has cost me $22,000 since December so really not the best experience, maybe I got a bad one, I’m not sure. But I will confirm every single issue you read about in the automotive journals I have had. At this point I don’t even know if I want to keep the car because I can’t even trust it and my line of work I can’t be late to something due to a car issue. I guess take it for what you want, but this has been my experience. If you have the money spend the money on an F80 and you WILL NOT regret it like I was worried I would. Also the interior on the f80 is head over heels nicer as well as the overall comfort
Electric vehicles today can just crush these ICE vehicles, especially this car. However, this car has more soul and of course you can drive it all day long without running out of electrons. It is a beautiful car, but at least here in the U.S. a total sales dud. The Corvette is the far better value ( although it is a two seater) and the Bowling Green factory can in no way keep up with the huge sales demand. Parts and service availability will also be far better with the Vette.
Great looking car..I actually ran one of these with my m3 and walked it (tuned m3/ alfa idk) but in person like you said it looks great, sounds good..very unique car
None of these RU-vidrs get it right. The "A" in DNA is Advanced Efficiency. It changes everything to stretch gas mileage, including turning off 3 cylinders when warranted. You can get upwards of 28mpg highway if you try REAL hard. Also, Dynamic has a soft damper mode and Race has a mid damper mode. Why nobody reads is beyond me. Greatest car I've ever had and eclipsed all my Ferraris. Here's my long-term review ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hpKoJHgMz9I.html
The wide open throttle pull on these is nuts! The only car to give me a migraine. The suspension has me scared for my life and a huge put off in personal experience with the car. (Feels like a big ol suv?) again my personal experiences. I drove a 2018 Quadrifoglio. Now I drive the M3 for safety of my family lol
In the US no one is really a fan of them. I like them personally but the aftermarket support for M3 make the platform limitless in what you can do and hard to beat.
i geuss that's the reason alfa's arent really that popular. the M3 is about for a long time now. alfa is just joining the party with the giulia. and for alfa to make such an amazing car as their first super sedan is quite amazing if you ask me.
The problem is most "enthusiasts" now a day only care about acceleration. They forget (or haven't experienced) cars that are actually fun and engaging to drive like the Alfa.
the bmw like many others produce only to sell and do not design them with their heads, just see the rear spoiler of the giulia that makes sense if it has that shape because it has the stop light at the bottom and bmw has shamelessly copied it on its that they have the stop at the top haha, just ridiculous ...
Too bad in Aus you can get an f80 m3 for around $60k aud. While one of these you're looking at $120k. Used. Is it good? Sure. Twice as good as an m3? You can barely get a veloce here for the same proce as an f80 m3. Alfa killed themselves. Coming from someone who dailies a giulietta qv. Wanted to get a giulia qv but for $120k used they can eat it. So many cars I'd much rather have at that price point.
Lol man are you looking at a GTA model or what? In Italy or Germany theyre not more expensive or that much cheaper than the competitors but the price you mention are unreal.
@@DonViToCRLNE that's great, I'm not in Italy or Germany. GTA is $300k plus on road here. I also pay $4200 in rent a month. Just Australia things m8 Add that 53% of my pay goes to taxes. Land of dreams
Not at all. The steering is SOOOO much better than BMW, the chassis balance is pretty much perfect, and overall it just has feel and character that the Germans lack.
The brand suffers because the former CEO Sergio Marchionne died and this brand was his baby. Now the French run Stellantis and don't really care about Alfa/Maserati.
LOL. So Jean Imparato who runs Alfa is not an enthusiast? The guy is a self confessed nut case enthusiast of the brand. He has just announced plans for a new Alfa Romeo Supercar modelled on the 33 stradale. The Tonale has been launched with a new model coming out every year fro the next 5 years. As for Maserati, they have 3 brand new cars; Mc20, Cielo, Grecale. coming out next month is the granturismo and granturismo convertible + a stack of electric versions + a new quattroporte coming out in the next 12 months + an update to the Levante. 🤣🤣🤣
@@johnmanciameli9752 I recommend you don't hold your breath with any of these predictions. I will be around when none of this happens....you'll disappear however. The Frenchman is not Marchionne.
@@23Piccolina I understand your scepticism. However, there is reason to be optimistic. All the Maserati models have been seen in the flesh as either in showrooms for sale or final prototype eg granturismo. (I can hold my breath and will be around as I attended the launch of the MC20). Just as important, management have a history of turning brands around. Carlos Taveras (CEO of Stellantis) turned Opel around in just 2 years into a profit making enterprise. Carlos reminds me of Marchionne. A real enthusiast with a business head. Jean Phillip Imparato turned Peugot around into a money making machine. He is obsesed with the brand and improving the quality. eg he slowed Tonale production down to just 25 units a day to make sure the quality is there. Jean Phillip Imparato this time has alot of money to play with as well. BTW - Alfa Romeo are now making money. I have a good feeling.
@@johnmanciameli9752 John, for the sake of a brand I've loved and owned since the 1980s....I hope YOU are right! I'd like to be wrong on this. I am on our 6th Alfa. Spider Veloce, Alfa 75 Milano, Alfa 164S, 2017 Giulia, 2019 Giulia, and now a 2018 Stelvio. I know something about the brand.
@@23Piccolina Good to read mate. I am on to my 5th Alfa as well (Guilia QV). I am doing everything I can to promote the brand. It deserves way more success. Its an aristocratic brand that can teach the likes of BMW what "pure driving pleasure" REALLY means. I genuinely believe Alfas time is coming; Seriously talented management with bucket loads of cash giving Alfa Romeo 10 years to prove itself. This is something that Marchionne never had the luxury of. Still - look at what was achieved with the Giorgio platform. Further, Jean Imparato is talking about things that Marchionne never really had the luxury of being able to indulge eg improving residuals, building to order, 5 year warranties, Lexus level of quality, showrooms that are truly beautiful (look at the new one in Milan that will be the template moving forward) I have a good feeling. I think you will one day say to the naysayers "I told you so".
Brera is nice-ish. I used to love the way it looks but revisited it and perhaps my taste has changed but.. it's not my favorite. Spider does nothing for me. 8C is on a different planet.
@@RoadsUntraveled 8c Competizione or spyder? For me the brera is one of the most arrogant coupes ever made. With design language never to be seen again in production cars. Also with relatively low volume production the brera has wayyy to many bespoke parts.
Manual swaps are possible, they sold them in other markets. It seems the US small overlap crash test killed the manual for the US market. They said it was going to come here and the panel for the pedal box has a cutout for a third pedal.
