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The Taverns Of Tiefenthal - How To Play 

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Комментарии : 173   
@LectureFilms
@LectureFilms 4 года назад
So many curds in this tavrun!
@un-ku_son
@un-ku_son 4 года назад
Aww schnapp!
@Officegamecafe
@Officegamecafe 2 года назад
I usually read the rulebooks. Pulled out Taverns last night to learn it, and after a rough week of work was just overwhelmed with all the components and setup. Packed it away in about 5 minutes, resigned to skip it this week at game night. Woke up, decided to see what good ol’ Rodney has to say, and now this is going to hit the table tonight after all. Love what you do. What a career - wanna trade?
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 2 года назад
Ha! I think I'd better stick with this :) Glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful!
@Oaklestat
@Oaklestat 4 года назад
You have the best "how to play" board game videos on the internet
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Thanks so much!
@greengravety-dx3071
@greengravety-dx3071 2 года назад
Trufh bru
@DanteDominguez
@DanteDominguez 4 года назад
I really like your videos. Your voice is pleasant to my ears. Also, very easy to understand by non-native English speakers.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Very nice to hear - thank you.
@brianostube
@brianostube 3 года назад
My wife gave me this game for Christmas. Your video helped a lot in learning the set-up and rules! Love the game so much we played four games in a row!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 3 года назад
Hey, thanks awesome - so glad you've been enjoying this one :)
@republikadugave420
@republikadugave420 4 года назад
Epic box spin at 0:12
@markchapa9805
@markchapa9805 4 года назад
I like the little smirk at the end of that shot. Like he went, "oh yea, first try. I'm that good" 😁
@violethyena6895
@violethyena6895 4 года назад
Not only a great game intro, but I love that smooth game box flip in the beginning of the video. Awesome.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Thank you kindly!
@carveking
@carveking 4 года назад
Have played this game 5 times now. Definitely feels like a step up from quacks of quedlinburg. It's a solid lighter game
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Glad you've enjoyed it!
@jamesmcdonald1724
@jamesmcdonald1724 8 месяцев назад
This is the first place I go once I buy a new game. Every time. Never disappoints. Thank you.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 8 месяцев назад
Really great to hear James - thanks so much!
@ormhaxan
@ormhaxan 4 года назад
It looks to be a surprisingly deep game for the light theme. Thank you for the video as always!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
You're very welcome!
@sunnywung6395
@sunnywung6395 4 года назад
irony of this game is you can't play it while drinking beer or you're gonna lose track of everything every 2 minute
@FrankMinogue
@FrankMinogue 4 года назад
Viticulture has met with a competitor! Who doesn't want to run a beer garden/pub? Definitely one for the list!!!
@danhamilton5049
@danhamilton5049 2 года назад
I just want to say that the box flip at the beginning of this video is super impressive
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 2 года назад
Thank you kindly Dan!
@ziomalZparafii
@ziomalZparafii Год назад
First try! ;)
@rodrigodeus8730
@rodrigodeus8730 4 года назад
Best reviewer out there! I'm a HUGE fan of Rodney and if I have travel outta Brazil to a board game event my major wish would be to meet this guy! Thank for this wonderful video!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Thanks for the kind words here and on BGG too :)
@FrankMinogue
@FrankMinogue 4 года назад
My daughter surprised me with this game! I cannot wait to get it to the table!!!!!!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Have a great time playing it Frank!
@FrankMinogue
@FrankMinogue 4 года назад
Watch It Played I am sure we will. I watched the play through by BGG, and it looks like so much fun!
@FrankMinogue
@FrankMinogue 4 года назад
Watch It Played we played it several times on our cruise, and we have really enjoyed it! We already have 8 plays, and have even played through the FaceTime playing we have been doing until we are reunited!
@stevepruneau6561
@stevepruneau6561 4 года назад
Not that many "tavern" games out there, but I will consider this one to add to my list. I just love that beer mug standee.. Anyone thirsty? :D
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Me!
@blizion914
@blizion914 4 года назад
Rodney, you always do such a great job explaining how games work. I have to say you're really good at your job and I always look forward to your videos (both Watch It Played and your Vlog). You're someone I would love to sit down and play a game with sometime if you're ever in St. Louis, Missouri,USA. I wish we had some board game conventions here.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Thanks so much for the kind compliment! Nice to know you're enjoying the vlog too :)
@TheGameBoyGeeks
@TheGameBoyGeeks 4 года назад
Another great explanation Rodney! Juggling those coasters without dropping any die looked like a dexterity mini game! Not to mention the flipping of the box cover at the beginning!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Ah, thanks so much Dan - glad you liked it (including my little juggling act).
@mattlowder
@mattlowder 4 года назад
Tavrins and Curds. God I love this man.
@neopet84
@neopet84 7 месяцев назад
Thank's for the how to play. Just got this game, and thanks to you i am ready to play.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 7 месяцев назад
Have a great time playing!
@mardel5466
@mardel5466 4 года назад
Aah your box flips don't get old!! Keep up rodney 🔥❤
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Thanks Mardel - you keep watching and I'll keep flipping!
@yanivgoldstein3875
@yanivgoldstein3875 4 года назад
It looks so good that I just ordered a copy from Amazon :) That's exactly the kind of games I was looking for , Thanks !
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
You’re welcome!
@Fishtank33
@Fishtank33 3 года назад
Looks fun! Love how the player boards slot together and how you turn them over to upgrade. Very neat!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 3 года назад
YEah, that's a very satisfying part of the game play, to be sure. Makes you feel like you're building something.
@davidc6836
@davidc6836 4 года назад
We love playing this game...simple rules and uses a variety of mechanics...what a nice surprise!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Glad you enjoyed!
@meandHF
@meandHF 4 года назад
Oh thank you so much! I just did a search for this tutorial and you didn't have one out yet, and then I got a notification that you just posted it. What luck! My copy is on its way and I'm super excited.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
What lovely timing :) I hope you have a great time with it!
@mightyblowstudio
@mightyblowstudio Год назад
I received this game as an Xmas present. The rule book is trash at explaining things! So glad I found this video to help!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed Год назад
Very glad to know this was helpful!
@Steve_Gold_Board-Games
@Steve_Gold_Board-Games 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for another great video. This game I just bought as a used copy. So I did look if you had done a video for this one and lucky me, you have. Yeah!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 10 месяцев назад
Have a great time playing!
@benleague3115
@benleague3115 Год назад
The expansion adds even more fun to this classic.
@d.l.6186
@d.l.6186 4 года назад
Now who wouldn't want to run a beer tavern, the game looks perfectly balanced too and the art looks nice. Outstanding video, thanks Rodney!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
You're very welcome Darko!
@Duracelbunny
@Duracelbunny 2 года назад
This was really good. Thanks again Rodney 👍
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 2 года назад
You're very welcome - have a great time playing!
@tyrussleightholme7261
@tyrussleightholme7261 4 года назад
Wow you have really perfected the box twirl
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Thank you kindly!
@scottgurman
@scottgurman 7 месяцев назад
Once again you have saved me an immense amount of time. Thank you!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 7 месяцев назад
You're very welcome Scott - glad it was helpful!
@ben59320
@ben59320 4 года назад
Such good videos, talking in front of the camera for such long videos and about detailed rules doesn't seem to bother at all. It's good to see you on BGG videos also ! Keep it going, it's great !
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Thanks for the kind words Benjamin!
@voyager5333
@voyager5333 2 года назад
Very clearly explained in such a short time! Thanks!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed!
@uweeickert8061
@uweeickert8061 4 года назад
Rodney, how many attempts did it take you to flip the game box and catch it right side up without looking away from the camera?!? Wow, that is true professional talent. I watched it 5 times and am amazed.... Hmmm... now what game was this? Oh yes Tiefenthal, one of my favorite towns in the area! Great video.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Glad you enjoyed the performance Uwe :). Here’s a short video on how many attempts it takes: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9WXTNh3fsM0.html
@FrankMinogue
@FrankMinogue 4 года назад
@@WatchItPlayed ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oBZk6JZwJCU.html
@MrPoppyBros
@MrPoppyBros 4 года назад
The theme had me very intrigued, the video has put it over the top, grabbing this from my FLGS tomorrow!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Have a great time playing!
@1Dreamking
@1Dreamking 9 месяцев назад
This was so much easier to understand than the rulebook which gave me a headache.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 9 месяцев назад
So glad to know it was helpful!
@jamesh972
@jamesh972 3 года назад
Superb instructional video as always Rodney, thank you! Just picked this up and looks like a fun one that should be relatively easy to learn and get to the table...cheers!!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 3 года назад
I hope you have a great time playing!
@Tallturk
@Tallturk 7 месяцев назад
Great explanation, thanks!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 7 месяцев назад
You're very welcome!
@Esoni12
@Esoni12 4 года назад
Thanks Rodney! This has been on my short list since the original version came out!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
You're very welcome!
@AndrewKlismith
@AndrewKlismith Год назад
This game is fascinating! As always great video! 👍
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed Год назад
Thanks Andrew - I hope you get a chance to check it out!
@partypao
@partypao 2 года назад
The first video I watched on this channel back in Dec 2019
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 2 года назад
Thanks for being with us all this time!
@Szerszenix
@Szerszenix Год назад
I've just gotten the game 2 days ago and it's amazing, but I'm not sure whether I do the beer/coin thing correctly - what we would do when the turn was over was counting the beers/coins left and available for storage (so 2 beers/coins before upgrades) and store those, then reset the counter for the next turn. Say turn 1 I had 1 beer/coin left, I would store those and reset the counter, so if I had a surplus of +2 beer/coin by the end of the 2nd turn, I would store those as well and have +3 beer/coin in total stored going into turn 3 - is this how it's supposed to be played or the limit doesn't reset between turns? Otherwise, I love it already and thank you for a great video!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed Год назад
The limit (2 before upgrading on beer and coin) is the max you can store overall. Hope that helps.
@maleficmax
@maleficmax 4 года назад
Perfect, as always. Video quality is soooo good!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Thanks so much Marksym!
@omnivoid0776
@omnivoid0776 3 года назад
Another brilliant video. Thanks Rodney!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 3 года назад
Very glad you enjoyed :)
@zqueen3871
@zqueen3871 3 года назад
My only complaint so far with this game is that I wish they had some tracker or pieces to represent the number of gold and beers you have to spend on your turn. I would add up my gold, moving dice off those spots as I went (so I knew it was already counted), then do the same to add up my beers, and fully forget how many gold I’d just counted. This game already has a nice tactile element, so I think little gold coins or beer pieces would be a fitting addition. We resorted to using the unused or spent server dice as counters.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 3 года назад
Yes, this has been a common request :) I think getting a few substitute tokens, or using dice as counters is a great idea.
@MsGinahidesout
@MsGinahidesout 4 года назад
You do such a great job explaining how to play!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
So kind of you to say!
@MsGinahidesout
@MsGinahidesout 4 года назад
@@WatchItPlayed ☺️
@loicovis426
@loicovis426 3 года назад
Great video! Thank you so much for the explaination!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 3 года назад
So glad you liked it!
@johntheocharidis1396
@johntheocharidis1396 2 года назад
Once again: thanks for the video!!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 2 года назад
You're very welcome John!
@stigdu99
@stigdu99 3 года назад
Just bought this game. Punched it. Watched Rodney's 'How to...' video. Sorted!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 3 года назад
Fantastic - have fun playing!
@greengravety-dx3071
@greengravety-dx3071 2 года назад
How many times did you flip the box to get that perfect?? 🤩 dedication love it!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 2 года назад
Are you suggesting I didn't get it on the first attempt? *gasp*
@nextgenhype6488
@nextgenhype6488 4 года назад
Awesome video! Keep up the good work👌
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Thank you kindly!
@DamiansjBlogspotMxDamianArcane
@DamiansjBlogspotMxDamianArcane 4 года назад
Looks amazing! I really like it, thank you for sharing it :)
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
A pleasure, thanks for the thanks!
@jean-francoissoucy8340
@jean-francoissoucy8340 4 года назад
I didn't know about this glad and i'm glad that i do know.
@TheOfficialMMPRG
@TheOfficialMMPRG 9 месяцев назад
Rodney makes every game worth buying
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 9 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed what you saw :)
@dennyofthepines1457
@dennyofthepines1457 2 года назад
Just finished the game. It was a lot of fun even though unpacking it and setting it up the first time was a little intimidating with the high piece count. Great quality, but the zip bags for the parts don’t zip very good? It’s a bit lame to say and I would make fun of me for saying this publicly, but I had a surprisingly hard time closing the bags when putting it all away…
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 2 года назад
It could be that the baggies weren't the best quality - I forget what mine were like!
@wanlinhuang8465
@wanlinhuang8465 2 года назад
Amazing video! Really helps me to sort out how I can explain this game to my friends =) I did nothice though, was the counter guest portion missed out??
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 2 года назад
Hey Wanlin, are you referring to this? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kzK9pL1ehiA.html
@wanlinhuang8465
@wanlinhuang8465 2 года назад
@@WatchItPlayed The one which every player gets in rounds 1, 4 & 6
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 2 года назад
@@wanlinhuang8465 That's covered here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kzK9pL1ehiA.html Rather than try to explain those symbols individually (which I felt might be unclear at that point int he video), I felt that was best to leave to the players during their first game.
@wanlinhuang8465
@wanlinhuang8465 2 года назад
@@WatchItPlayed ahhh I see. Thank you!! Cheers
@TheManofDew
@TheManofDew 4 года назад
Curse you Rodney and your excellent explanation of game rules. Now there’s another game I have to add to my list. Okay, not curse you, probably the exact opposite. Thanks for another great video. 😃👍
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Ha! You're welcome!
@immortalsun
@immortalsun 2 года назад
Hear about a game for the first time Interested in learning about it Look it up on RU-vid Find a Watch It Played video about it No better feeling than that! 😄
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 2 года назад
Have a great time learning and playing!
@giladnadler
@giladnadler 3 года назад
Can you get discount for upgrading the bear storage? The barback goes there but there is no small icon of discount. And thanks for the explantion! We played the game yesterday with your help
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 3 года назад
If there's no small icon for a discount, than that area can't be discounted. Have fun playing :)
@giladnadler
@giladnadler 3 года назад
@@WatchItPlayed thanks!
@Kurdran
@Kurdran 4 года назад
please make great western trail
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Thanks for the interest, I talk about that here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EdtDuvIUa6A.html&t=342
@chrisharris3520
@chrisharris3520 4 года назад
I own that same flannel...
@anthonymodak2957
@anthonymodak2957 4 года назад
So at what time would you spend coins and beer? When you perform an action or towards the end of the phase?
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
At any point during the phase. I would typically activate a spot to gain what I needed, and then spend it right after on what I want, and then activate something else and spend what it generated, etc.
@jaredlucev4481
@jaredlucev4481 4 года назад
I'd love an expansion for it, but they need to make sure it includes beer and coin tokens. For me, and many people like me, it's much easier to focus on the game when I can generate my resources all at once and then spend from that pool. Less work trying to keep a constant changing string of numbers in my head and more focus on my actual choices. Sure, I could just make my own, but the art is so great here that I'd be willing to pay for tokens in theme.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 3 года назад
It would be a nice addition, to be sure!
@egg3764
@egg3764 4 года назад
You should make a video on Battletech
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 3 года назад
Thanks for the interest!
@vaspiou
@vaspiou 4 года назад
haha when you said at the setup, that you have a server....i was looking for an IBM somehow...!!hahaha
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Time to get off the computer :)
@Geminimachin
@Geminimachin 4 года назад
@@WatchItPlayed Well, I can't, you have so many good videos on your channel haha
@bigturkjr
@bigturkjr 3 года назад
Cool vid
@alexanderlenschmidt6567
@alexanderlenschmidt6567 4 года назад
11:31 what are these coins called? I cant figure out, what word rodney is using there. In the german rulebook they are just called doubloons
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Thalers
@alexanderlenschmidt6567
@alexanderlenschmidt6567 4 года назад
@@WatchItPlayed agreed, coins would have been a better choice
@toweypat
@toweypat 4 года назад
"Thaler" is the ancestor of the word "dollar".
@wipeguy
@wipeguy 4 года назад
Nice catch :D
@AFatalPapercut
@AFatalPapercut 4 года назад
Me: "hmm I wonder what a Tiefenthal even is" ::googles that:: Tiefenthal is an Ortsgemeinde - a municipality belonging to a Verbandsgemeinde, a kind of collective municipality - in the Bad Dürkheim district in Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany Oh...alright then....
@toweypat
@toweypat 4 года назад
Do The Quacks of Quedlinburg visit the Tavern of Tiefenthal?
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
I like to think so.
@DrMcFly28
@DrMcFly28 4 года назад
How come Rodney's boxes never fart?
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
All my games go through etiquette training.
@MuelTeal
@MuelTeal 3 года назад
This chaps explanations are so bloody comprehensive, Rodney Smith for Prime Minister?
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 3 года назад
So glad you're enjoying :)
@VinegarAndSaltedFries
@VinegarAndSaltedFries 4 года назад
Is there anyway to track how much beer the bareback provided or is it just supposed to be remembered? Edit: Nevermind answered Game looks amazing. Do wish beer or coin tokens existed though everything else is so amazing it would have pushed it over the top.
@tobimessmer3619
@tobimessmer3619 4 года назад
As you lose every coin and/or beer at the end of your turn that you can not store, i think that the designers felt that tokens would not be necessary. And they would have made the game a little bit mor expensive. I have played the game many times and it works well without tokens.
@55wownow
@55wownow 4 года назад
@@tobimessmer3619 I agree. An unnecessary faff to use tokens as they're spent straight away or stored each round.
@55wownow
@55wownow 4 года назад
As I suggested above, just use two 20 sided dice to show your beer and money each round.
@swrenn
@swrenn 4 года назад
How many takes did that box flip take? 😛
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Just one, of course! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9WXTNh3fsM0.html
@bones2323232323
@bones2323232323 4 года назад
Seems kinda clunky to not have beer or coin tokens to help keep track during turns. Looks like the game can get quite mathy as it progresses. Easily fixed with tokens of our own, just a bit clunky.
@mattlowder
@mattlowder 4 года назад
but it's really good. your point is still taken, of course.
@bones2323232323
@bones2323232323 4 года назад
@@mattlowder Oh I bet, I may just try it. It looks pretty fun regardless.
@marianneduguay7658
@marianneduguay7658 4 года назад
Is the set up the same if you play 2 players? Do we put 4 white dice on the coaster?
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Yep, you still put 4 white dice on the coasters. I can't remember off the top if there are any changes, but if there are, I will have mentioned them in the video.
@FrankMinogue
@FrankMinogue 4 года назад
I think the word is SchAWWps, not Shaaaps. It is a type of liquor. The a is pronounced like an “O”. Like schnOPs.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Depends on where you're from. Some say sh-naps, and some say sh-nops.
@FrankMinogue
@FrankMinogue 4 года назад
Watch It Played I never knew that, eh? How many kerds are in this game? I noticed there are no rezources as well? I never heard anyone say snaps. But I cannot say you are definitely wrong. I just have always heard shnops. Anyway, I punched all the parts today, and bought a little fishing organizer for the smaller parts instead of bags. I am alone in Oklahoma and don’t know when I will be playing it. We have been playing Architects over the FaceTime, and I have played it solo. My daughter didn’t seem to excited about the Harry Potter game. My son and daughter are with my wife today celebrating Christmas, and I am just sort of feeling down. I am thinking about playing Tapestry with Automa. Haven’t played it With Automa yet. Or maybe just go for a walk and go to bed....😔😔😔😔😔
@JackieFox1976
@JackieFox1976 4 года назад
Leave it to Rodney to find a game in which an upgrade requires removing a cat!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Right? :)
@mattlowder
@mattlowder 4 года назад
i want it.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Glad you liked what you saw - thanks for checking it out Matt.
@jonh716
@jonh716 4 года назад
I thank you Rodney! But my wallet doesn't lol.
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 4 года назад
Hope you have a fun time with the game then :)
@scottsmartky
@scottsmartky 4 года назад
Hmmm...Rodney and Dave (I guess) teaching the same game on the same day. Interesting. Going to compare and contrast teaching styles. Go watch the playthrough on BGG's YT page.
@uzaygemisi1716
@uzaygemisi1716 3 года назад
please Turkish Sub because of increasing Boardgame culture in Türkiye!
@WatchItPlayed
@WatchItPlayed 3 года назад
I wish I could, but I don't speak Turkish and don't have the resources for creating them myself. If you want to create Turkish subs and sent me the .srt file I'd be happy to upload it.
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