The Tenerife Airport Disaster: Aviation's Worst Nightmare 

14.99 a quarter for a new head (fnarr) minus what the bearded one said.

Please use the metric system, so the whole world could understand you.

That's about 3 beers.

Plane bad luck har dee har

I find it disrespectful for YT Premium members to put sponsors in video

Exactly, we as humans are reactive and not proactive. Especially when it comes to safety and procedures. They are bad about this in the fire service. It is extremely annoying.

Damn thats edgy

Words to live by. I wish I could like your comment 💯 times!

I think part of the issue is people aren’t inherently able to predict what problems might occur before they happen

​@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe You can't predict people when they aren't predictable -Me

Thousand thumbs up. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Bullseye.

You would think that people would have more common sense in this world.

@@everydayhero5076 Many things are common, common sense isn't one of them.

Profits over people. Exploited employees are the backbone of almost every business that wants to stay in business.

Gannicuuuus

Shit happens, unfortunately.

Yes but the pilot who caused the accident couldn’t be bothered to ask if the runway was clear.

Couldn't see 2 burning 747s

@@oldschoolman1444 classy

Thank you for your service.

@@humancattoy7767 Thank You most appreciated.

Thx Andrew

@@daleleibfried8648 Thank You for your thoughts.

thank you.

I was four when John F Kennedy was assassinated. Same feeling. 'Something bad happened.' The sadness in the air is palpable, even to a four-year-old.

i used to walk the hills when i was younger me and my friend found a skull placed on a pile of rocks we were scared and ran it's making more sense now i haven't thought about it in year's

Is it true that the inhabitants of your island were isolated until the Spanish came in the 15th century ?

@@blossomjoseph5541 Having been there two years ago the vast majority of the people living on the island are Spanish. Don't know if there were any native tribes. There's a sizeable number of retirees from many countries living there (mostly English and German).

@@kathleenr4047 not comparable but thanks for inserting yourself lol

1 in 40mill ur fine enjoy the flight

I've built an ultralight plane recently, no license, never been in a plane before, but I plan on flying in the next few days,

@@sirsackolis5203 thank you good sir, natural selection has been resting too long. I salute you

Yh they the passengers of these planes thought the same. Unfortunately for them it was their worst nightmare. 🙏xxx

@@northlandgaming8460 and I salute you, I would want to go in a ball of fire, why die in a boring way, like the cancer invading my body😂

That terrorist group was actually made up of three people, backed of course by the USSR and Libya. That shows how many innocent people communism has killed around the world.

@@marneus lmao, communism is the go to word for the politically uneducated. 🤣

@@RSAgility Communism is the go to word for people who acknowledge the brutal murder of 100 million people at least. Killing fields, roads of bone and great leaps forward. If you see a hammer and sickle you should have the same reaction you would were it a swastika.

@@elias_xp95 True, about the Soviet Union, but the Soviet Union is/was not the only version of communism. Certainly you do not blame Christianity for the many atrocities committed in its name?

@@stevengordon3271 I blame communism for the atrocities brought fourth by communism. I blame Christianity from the atrocities brought fourth by Christianity. I blame Nazism for the atrocities brought fourth by Nazism. Fascism fascism. etc. The better question would be why would you not blame the ideology for the atrocities brought fourth by the ideology?

The quest for profit before safety is exactly why I'm terrified of flying

I think this is one area where AI can make a huuge difference, and relatively soon - especially in terms of what _appears_ to be the leading cause of these kinds of accidents; human error and miscommunication. Current stage of AI / neural networks, when appropriately trained, are extremely good at relatively(!) simple tasks, doing thousands or even millions of them every second, and doing a tonne of them in parallel. Now I'm not suggesting that the work of a pilot or traffic controller, is simple. But with good enough, rapid sensor input, almost all of it can be broken down into a million small maths calculations, equations, ifs and thens. Now a human couldn't do the job like that, nor should we try, but a computer / AI can. All those small pieces/decisions and increments, that's where it really shines. My thoughts here goes a little bit like this example: Traffic control, definitely run by AI. At minimum, it keeps super granular tabs on every detectable object in its airspace and on the ground. It provides guidance to the human traffic controller, and intervenes if something is overlooked / misinterpreted or dangerously delayed, and the human operator has not addressed the situation before the time to act is near running out. Further along, I'm thinking planes would fitted with similar AI, with the plane's autopilot being able to intervene, and if all else fail - the traffic control AI can "take control" of the plane, work in tandem with the onboard AI for sensor data, and bring it down safely, or do emergency manouvers to avoid a crash.

They reckon that by 2040 aviation accidents as a whole will be history

@@derrickallen2054 Except there is simply no safer way to travel. Billions of people fly each year (no pandemic) with no problem. It might be Ironic that flying is the safest form of travel humans have ever invented.

@@derrickallen2054 don't worry about it it's only a 35,000 foot fall! Lol

Like 9/11 and my ex-girlfriend who lived in New York. Or the attack on the airport in Vienna in 1985, when my mom was flying in. Now you find out in moments, back then the stress was terrible. Thanks for sharing.

@@stefanschleps8758 Pan Am 103 blown up over Lockerbie, the news was announced within minutes, and people in New York were advised to contact the airline desk immediately. The flight blew up about 19:00 - 14:00 in NY! By 19:30 the world knew!

thanks

Thank god I can skip to the mid roll thanks to you

Thank you

8:20 - Shave your balls

@@tomgimon5267 😂 🪒 your 🏀🏀

I don't think that his absence from a cockpit had as much to do with the accident as his fatigue and the communication problems caused by the ATC with the thick accent using unfamiliar elements of speech. I'm sure that his professionalism accounted for every variable except for someone using the wrong word at the wrong time. And once he'd committed to his take-off roll, the accident was inevitable. I hope that there's never a catastrophe like this, ever again; but I have more faith in mankind's tendency to allow "Business As Usual" to become "Oops!" Fortune passes everywhere.

@@DavidSmith-ss1cg Fatigue or impatience? Van Zanten had already attempted to spool up and takeoff without clearance and was stopped by the FO. A disturbing sequence in and of itself and a clear indication he was in a rush.

@@PabloGonzalez-hv3td - That is a version of events presented in the movie made about the disaster and backed up by one of the ai crash investigators, however it isn't supported by the the official investigation. When the FO pointed out they didn't have take off clearance, Van Zanten said 'I know, go ahead and ask for it'. The actor in the film is all embarrassed and closes the throttles - but we only have a typed transcript - we have no idea how he really said it and there is no record of the throttles being closed at this point. It is just one possible interpretation.

They had flight simulators in 1977?

@@neilkendall9857 they had RC planes and such back then as well....Of course they had flight simulators

that Mayday episode haunted me as a kid

I watched that too. I’ve watched Mayday and Air Crash Investigations a lot I think I’ve watched all of the videos on RU-vid😂😂 tbh it helped me a lot when I flew for the first time since I was 5 I hate flying. It scares the hell out of me and I felt more comfortable knowing what I learned in those videos 😂😂always sit in the back

Yes, I also remember well this accident, I was a 9yrs old boy interested in aviation and I also was horrified by the accident.

I remember it happening vividly. I also remember the news reports showing photos of the passengers standing looking back at the burning mess. I remember a man with all the cloths on his back burnt off. Another shot of all the luggage.

There is a movie called Alive, about a plane crashing into the Andes mountains. A rugby team and other passengers have to start eating each other to survive. Based on a true story.

I expect she was devastated, cuz her friends were on that flight.

There is a documentary about this disaster in which she talks about that. I think it's even here on youtube if you search for it

@@Reewen yes it is. Just search for tenerife Airport disaster.

Probably similar to the passengers on the Titanic that disembarked in Ireland before the ship put to sea for its first transatlantic voyage

Every large commercial plane wreck has some planned passengers who didn't board the plane on time. It's a common story. They had a problem that caused their delay. While they are cursing the fact that they missed the plane, they learn the plane went down.

You must be an OGBB Legend, allegedly.

But the whole 747 crew had smooth balls

@@Ryan-yj6nb clenched up against the body in the final seconds...

If only the pilots had shaved their balls! No one would have died!

Well, I just laughed, I guess my seat in hell has just been reserved

The A380 doesn't have a flight engineer. If you're taking about Nancy Bird Walton's mishap there was a second officer in the cockpit for the long flight.

It wasn't multiple failures, just a single one that did a lot of damage, as uncontained engine failures are wont to do. And as the commenter above already mentioned, it was the second officer who made the suggestion to increase the landing speed to avoid a stall, not a flight engineer (as the A380 doesn't require one of those).

@@rjfaber1991 gotta admit that flight really flew through the eye of hell. Everything that could threaten the jet, did. It's a testament to just how good Qantas pilots are.

@@visionist7 It wasn't that much of a struggle to keep it in the air, but to land an A380 filled to the brim with fuel and unable to dump it, with only three engines and damaged hydraulics, that was an expert piece of piloting, even with the runway length available at Singapore Changi.

100%, I've done a few management modules as part of my degree and one thing that's drilled into us is that in order for a workplace to thrive there needs to be an open environment where employees can share any grievances they may have and make suggestions, sadly far too often lower level employees are ignored by management

Wow that's pretty crazy!

I guess it's typical in smaller locales that there isn't a big involved survey including lots of different people, just a single person or a handful indicating what is needed.

Why shouldn’t they build there?

@@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope exactly same reason why in 40s Nazis build the airport in my home town Rovaniemi where it is. Most foggy place in the city.

@@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope it´s at a very high altitude, extremely windy at times and fog is way too common

Literally everything would have been avoided had one pilot not rushed. KLM worrying about footing the bill for hotels now has to payoff hundreds of families for many years after the disaster. Egotistical CEOs will never learn.

it's called "getthereitis"

Van zeten got impatient and started his takeoff roll without permission. If he hadn't been so worried about the time and such a diva, the accident would never have happened

@@dave1135 air France Concorde was delayed for approximately one hour and the passengers had a cruise booked after the flight. I believe Concorde took off with excessive fuel and baggage Wight plus a faulty undercarriage wheel. If you go to John Hutchins ex Concorde captain interview. He gives a very good talk about the Concorde crash.

@@brianfearn4246 Are you speaking of the Concord crash? That was caused because of a piece of metal left on the ground by another airplane being thrown up and puncturing the fuel tank of the Concord. I’m not sure why you think Weight was a concern. The plane did make it airborne.

The famous "An orchestrated litany of lies" as air NZ tried to blame the pilots

They tried flying over the ice wall huh?

Yeah, don't plant bombs.

Surprised at this as, along with the Malaysian airlines disaster in the Ukraine, it is one of the worst airline diasaters to include Dutch civilians

@@russellfitzpatrick503 Not to mention De Bijlmer Ramp.

The dutch government has refused to agree with the rest of the world on the primary cause. They seemed to take it as a black eye to the Nation rather than one individual. The reality is given the same circumstances the captain of any airline from any country would likely have done the same thing. The culture was the captain is God and that is final. Can't fault national pride, even when unnecessary and misplaced. I'm American, I'm used to my government claiming superiority when all available data proves otherwise.

Look up Air Crash Investigation on this incident they go over everything that happened they have simulations of how it occurred and gives you background on the black box’s of the planes and you get to know what the air traffic controller was doing. Actually the biggest reason for this crash was that the pan am and air traffic controller talked at the same time which caused static in the headsets of the KLM pilots so they thought runway was clear so they took off which was wrong.

@@goochfitness26 lol so you're Dutch I take it?

Actually, it was the flight engineer (technically the lowest ranking of the three crew members) who had the doubt and said something. The captain responded "jawel", and the first officer did not question that certainty...

@@fyrequeene thanks for correcting me, I thought it was the first officer. Still, damn shame tho

The first officer did challenge the pilot once also.

@@neilkurzman4907 Twice in fact. The first time he challenged Van Zanten about his decision to completely fill the plane with fuel, stating that the plane had plenty to get to Gran Canaria. Van Zanten basically said, "My plane, my rules, bitch" in response. The second time was when he informed Van Zanten that they needed atc clearance after Van Zanten started taking off without any clearances. Van Zanten's response was "I know that, go ahead and ask". I guess that the first officer felt too intimidated to query the captain after that.

@@laceneil4570 Some of the captains decisions were based on rigid rules from the airline and his counties version of the FAA. If he flew more than that allowable number of hours he could’ve lost his pilots license. So trying to save a few minutes here and there mattered to him more than it should have.

You must be young. It was 1977 and probably the worlds biggest aviation disaster ever.

As is the case with many aviation accidents, most are rarely caused by one thing, they are often the result of sequence of events. In fact, this applies to many things, which, if at one point, had a decision or action taken would have been different, it would have changed the course or sequence of events and either avoided the catastrophic result, or, minimize its affects.

Heard of this a few years ago on a show about airplane disasters. Seems like every air disaster was the worst and then forgotten.

Never watched breaking bad?

@@RJinks87 Yep. I was 10 when this accident occurred and I never heard of it until BB

No the KLM/Pan Am disaster is the deadliest with 583 deaths, the Japanese flight was 520 deaths with 4 survivors so it is the second deadliest air disaster

You are referring to Japan Airlines flight 123. That was the worst single-aircraft accident in history, and the death toll was 520 out of 524. There were more survivors, but the rescue effort was greatly delayed by the remote terrain and Japan’s refusal of assistance from the American military. Consequently, many died before rescue finally arrived.

@KombatBard Haha no biggies XD

That's kind of sad. I put more blame on KLM than on him, honestly. If they hadn't enacted such ultimately counter productive policies concerning their pilots, I believe he wouldn't have rushed anything.

He was not a bad person just made a mistake that should not have had that kind of outcome , other things were in play

KLM put him on a flight without practical experience, only theoretical, I would not blame him.

Thank you for commenting. Being of the family of the capt. who is generally thought of as the one who caused this terrible accident is interesting to hear from. Even with that, it was still a terrible lose to your family. Saying that he did not want this outcome is an understatement. He didn't have the intention of blowing up two 747's. From the marks left on the runway he tried to avoid what he couldn't. I think it was at that moment he realized his mistake.

I know he wasn't a bad guy but my family is very judgemental and back in the Neatherlands are sort of blue blood. (I was born in Canada so I'm kinda separated from them.) So they don't never have much patience for mistakes.

Lol I’ve been asking other RU-vidrs to talk about it as well! Amazing flying on behalf of the pilots for sure but sadly was futile.

Wasn't that the one from Tokyo to Osaka with 5 survivors

@@mnatu21 sadly yes

@@mnatu21 yes

@KombatBard i couldn't remember the exact details but read bout that on wikipedia a few yrs ago

More then just pilot negligence so many things on play here can’t just put everything on the pilot

@@lonemaus562 but mainly negligence. Sure he was under pressure he shouldn’t have been. Sure there were unfortunate circumstance that there shouldn’t have been but who rolls blind down a runway they just taxied up knowing it’s the only way to takeoff point as well as without having gotten clearance, if you Listen to cVR it’s clear he was being negligent. If he would have attempted clear instruction from the tower he would have been fine. The other guys even ask, is that Panam on the runway? Furthermore it was his decision to waste time refueling there instead of the destination airport that jammed up the line. He made everyone wait for him because he was “the man” and there is no way around it, the incident was his fault and his alone. If you demand confirmation aside from what’s in this video I would recommend several excellent in depth analysis of the event, like on The Flight Channel

That was not the only accident and history caused by the type of interaction with a senior pilot. In fact Korean Airlines had the same issue coming into the century. Captains from a military culture not listening to their juniors, compounded by a culture of respect your seniors. It’s why a lot of time and effort was spent training that out of the air line culture

@@joshuapatrick682 - You've clearly been watching one of the documentaries on this. Some of them are not as accurate or balance as they might be. For example, you absolutely cannot listen to the cVR - it has never been released. All we have available is a very short section of transcript of the final moments. What you have heard are actors reading a script padded out by the documentary maker. You are commenting on someone else's interpretation of what might have happened.

I can’t stand them trying to say “aluminum “ they add an I at the end when they say it lol

@@MattttG3 I cant stand americans trying to speak english by saying "aluminium". They stick a huge U in it. Aloooominum.

@@michaelcliffe562 lol you guys says “al-u-min-E-mum “

You mean bear-moth?

@@MattttG3 well they actually spell it "aluminium". So they're pronouncing how it's officially spelled there. British English and American English have some differences like that. Centre, theatre, etc.

Same here! An incredibly sad story

Surprising, this is a big one in history. Hopefully nothing ever surpasses it.

Remember too that the 747 was still relatively new at the time, and there had been doom-sayers when the planes were introduced worrying about such large aircraft moving around in confined airports. Tenerife made a lot of people sit up and reconsider procedures world-wide, chages that have helped save thousands of lives.

blastyfs2 Yeah, you can have numerous car accidents and walk away from all of them, while planes....not so much.

Given accidents like USAir at LAX, Singapore Taipei ans SAS at Linate, I wonder how much we really did to reduce these kind of events. I'm under the impression that ground collisions may still be the most vulnerable area of risk today. Is enough being done?

Having worked in industrial safety & quality for years ... sum1 brings up tenefrie as an example, etc. every few yrs. the story actually makes me feel worse each time i hear it. such horrible, PREVENTABLE loss. yea, i choke up alot. :-(

lol, I was jus treminded last week was the 40th anniversary of my enlistment in 1981. Surely it hasn't been THAT long....? There's no way I can be almost.... Sixty....? The application XAENON.EXE has stopped responding.

You would think they would add faster forward system so you could just skip pass the part you don't want to see. Ooh wait they have one, USE IT

@@mylesbellott5676 I pay YT Premium to watch video uninterrupted so no skip, no fast forward, no action from me when I am watching, no bullsh#.

@@szymonmosiolek I'm sorry this has been a utter disaster in your life, I hope you can recover from such a traumatic event of touching your screen once or twice. 😭😭 we will pray for your recovery

@@szymonmosiolek Then you're a total sucker. Im sure you already know that adblockers exist, so just use it.

@@blackwatchpilot5329 I feel like one. YT Premium has few other nice features, especially mobile app which are worth to pay. I watch lots of YT on TV and there is no option for ad blocker.

you're right. they did, but the captain failed to recognize that... :(

It was the flight engineer, he did speak up. There is a discrepancy in the official reports. One reports says the Captain said 'Yes they are', the other report says both the Captain AND the FO said they were - so it is possible they both thought the Pan Am was clear - either way, you are right, the FE did speak up. It was actually as they were accelerating down the runway when he heard a message from PanAm. Might have been too late by then, anyway.

He commit suicide

Like Epstein I'm sure

@@DoctorChained actually he was last seen on his yacht assumed accidental drowning, he didn't kill himself he's buried in Israel with a Jewish burial wouldn't be there if he topped himself

Are people allowed to visit it??

@@mikehouqe8634 absolutely! They give tours

@@moonypie5579 nice! I'm from Manchester England I would love to go there sometime

@@mikehouqe8634 if you’re there, the Chihuly glass museum and museum of pop culture are awesome

@@mikehouqe8634 meaning in NW washington

Check out the book "Say Nothing" by Patrick Radden Keefe! All about NI and a bunch of stories about Long Kesh

Great idea

h.s. geography teacher wuld try to cover FL @ end of oct. ... so he culd tell the flt. 401 story on halloween :-)

last year ? you mean 2014 ?

@@hagnat nope, last year in Iran, the flight was ukrainian

@@hagnat I'm talking about the one that happened in September 2020. Iran shot a passenger plane down killing all on board.

That wasn't a accident

@@demonprinces17 Well no it wasn’t of course. I just couldn’t help but think about it.

No bit 😆

"OHHHHHHH FUUUCCCCKKKK (1)!!!" (1): The F-bomb is of Dutch origin. This is authentic.

@@petergray2712 damn, beat me to it!

How do you know how he had been behaving all afternoon?

Apparently, his last words were "God damn it!". If he hadn't taken on the extra fuel, there's a good chance that KLM would have cleared Pan Am. True, there would have been a lot of pants wetting, but better a laundry bill than a bill for funerals.

I seem to recall it has been covered once on somewhere on the SW empire, but it never gets boring and a bit more depth would be cool

Fascinating Horror did a video on Action Park just recently! I recommend it

I want to see action park on business blaze

They probably did not take a full load.....only enough to get to there first destination and then on to Amsterdam but keep the aircraft within its take off and landing weights.

The controller directed the planes to traverse the length of the runway at taxi speed, one after another. The KLM was to do a 180 at the end of the runway, and the Pan Am was to exit the runway onto the taxiway at a point past where the other planes were parked on it, then travel to the runway, by which point the KLM would have taken off and the Pan Am could go. It would have worked fine if the KLM didn’t jump the gun.

As for them taxiing in opposite directions....because of the extreme visibility problems the controller would have allowed a long time between taxiing clearance.....im thinking a good 10 minutes....the KLM was lined up for take off while the American plane was still taxiing up the runway........thats when it really started to go pear shaped..

1) at ~ 15:15 he said that it was 40 ton of fuel that was taken on. So far from "full of fuel" claimed in the beginning. 2) first part of the taxiway was blocked so they had to backtrack on the runway.

Once he's fully dominated youtube and has one of every possible type of channel, he'll be forced to expand the empire outward -- which means he'll have no choice but to make an onlyfans. We just have to be patient.

If you like it go listen to the Podcast Black Box Down from Rooster Teeth. They have many episodes

You should check out TheFlightChannel. Excellent channel that tales the flight disasters with facts,visuals, and respect for the lives lost.