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The Three Faces of Sanation Poland - Hoi4 

Bubbles Zest
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Today in Poland we are going to be exploring all three paths in the Sanation Government path, from Left to Right and up to the Castle all of them will be put through their paces to see what's good about them, where they fall short and how they actually play.
Along the way we will have to take Poland to new places, from newfound alliances in the heart of Europe to allying ourselves to faraway powers the whole nation will find itself transformed.
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@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest Год назад
If the boss is to be believed this video is the 200th on the channel, amazing how quickly you get there when TF2 is 1/4 of your content. All joking aside, damn that's alot. Can barely remember making most of them now. Anyway, it's nice to be checking in on Poland again and with something we haven't done much of, I know there's still more Poland for me to look at. So might be looking at them again sometime soon. ;)
@BunnyhopsX
@BunnyhopsX Год назад
There is a reason why the castle has the support the chemical industry focus. Its because Ignacy Mościcki the leader for this path was a chemist.
@n3ct0d2
@n3ct0d2 Год назад
If during the "OZN triumph" you choose to invite Falangists to the government, the game changes you to the brown ideology, but your country's leader (Edward Śmigły-Rydz) is both a brown party leader and a military demagogue who adds support for nonallight even though he is in charge of the party brown... I understand to do fuck up in one tree, but two in the same DLC (Roman Dmowski blocked focus) and it's for the same country... it realy takes talent. Thanks to Paradox for these wonderful focus trees...
@baroku94
@baroku94 Год назад
Poland has one of the best focus trees in the game, so many options.
@sfjuhispst8144
@sfjuhispst8144 Год назад
For me, Poland gets tanked by its military focuses. Plan east and plan west are filled with 70 day focuses with underwhelming rewards.
@quaker2636
@quaker2636 Год назад
​@@sfjuhispst8144agreed. The plan west/east focuses should have been made into decisions. HoI4 in general severely underuses this mechanic
@user-yp7hq5yp1x
@user-yp7hq5yp1x Год назад
@@quaker2636I agree, Should make it like the Dutch focus tree and tie the decisions with the military focuses
@irafan2
@irafan2 Год назад
Democratic Sanatationist Poland was always one of my favorite paths. I know democratic paths are sometimes redundant and boring but I didn't think it was for this path!
@RoseGod0682
@RoseGod0682 Год назад
Agreed
@RezaStufff
@RezaStufff 6 месяцев назад
There are a few democratic paths that are fun and worth to play now in HOI4, one of them to me is Sweden Nordic Defense Council where you literally can just got the entire Scandinavia as puppets
@quaker2636
@quaker2636 Год назад
This video shows perfectly how hilariously badly tested and researched the Polish focus tree is. Guarantees of independence that do nothing, starting the game with a completely ahistorical "embargoed economy", straight up useless focuses like creating your own faction requiring you to be a great power, which by the time its gonna happen you will have dominated all your enemies. Not to mention the player doesnt even have enough time to do all the historical focuses before the war. But I guess this is just what happens when the devs focus on meme monarchy paths that let you annex half of europe instead of the historical one.
@fernsong8558
@fernsong8558 Год назад
I believe you are able to "Demand Lithuanian Annexation" while taking the focus "Maintain the Dictatorship" on the third path. I did a playthrough where I took as many of the Left and Right Sanation focuses before going MtD and I was able to annex Lithuania.
@polskaarmata9498
@polskaarmata9498 Год назад
Literally the only country that is playable without DLCs
@DarthFhenix55
@DarthFhenix55 Год назад
It's from a DLC, is just that it's a free DLC.
@polskaarmata9498
@polskaarmata9498 Год назад
@@DarthFhenix55 yeah, so its not technically a DLC anymore
@LT_Silver
@LT_Silver Год назад
Czechoslovakia was guaranteeing Romania, not the other way around 9:44
@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest Год назад
Damn, Still wasn't interested in fighting them though.
@LT_Silver
@LT_Silver Год назад
@@BubblesZest Fair
@zobbgobott
@zobbgobott Год назад
I think guaranteeing Czechoslovakia before forming the Baltic Entente might stop Germany from being able to annex the Sudetenland and they'll be able to join the faction anyway once you go to war
@quaker2636
@quaker2636 Год назад
I did this in my game - it did nothing, Czechoslovakia still gives up the sudetenland. I had to use console commands to tag switch to czechs and prevent them from doing that. It just goes to show how badly tested the polish focus tree is.
@declangaming24
@declangaming24 Год назад
​@@quaker2636they don't always hand it once in one of my games I was Switzerland and Czechoslovakia refused it so Germany declared war on Czechoslovakia I joined the allies and destroyed Germany with my fortress of a nation took Austria and bavaria in the peace deal we then took care of Italy taking some states again
@quaker2636
@quaker2636 Год назад
@@declangaming24 did you play on historical though? Czechs always give it up historical
@declangaming24
@declangaming24 Год назад
@quaker2636 I play non historical most of the time for fun really and silly stuff happening like facist USA vs democratic Russia or vichy France vs everyone it's fun I find there's lots of different stuff that can happen France gets refused into the allies, czechoslovakia vs Germany in full warfare I only recommended historical for certain stuff If you want some wacky stuff happening play non historical
@HaartieeTRUE
@HaartieeTRUE Год назад
​@@quaker2636that one isn't a problem with the polish tree, its a problem with the event itself and czechoslovakia. You get the same problem as romania if you try and protect them, same with france, even.
@bltsevdallarfanclub641
@bltsevdallarfanclub641 Год назад
Could you do a Rome Protocols run. I never manage to do anything substantial. Kadroist Turkey could be an interesting playthrough too.
@someother5512
@someother5512 Год назад
Problem for me is that Poland has that Anastasia Romanov path, makes it very hard for me to pick all the other ones 😄
@bishopbrennan3558
@bishopbrennan3558 Год назад
In the Sanation Right, Czechoslovakia wasn't being guaranteed by Romania, but rather was guaranteeing them; you could've swooped in and killed them quite easily
@henrygaylordswanson
@henrygaylordswanson Год назад
Sanation Left is in my opinion the better democratic polish tree. The peasant path offers you no other cores (much like the sanation path) but doesn’t make up for it with a 5-7% increase to recruitable population.
@dwinos40
@dwinos40 Год назад
The extra compliance gain is worth it if you go for the independant communism path
@henrygaylordswanson
@henrygaylordswanson Год назад
@@dwinos40I meant this in reference to the democratic peasant union path. Obviously if you want to go communist then you should do the peasant path. I personally enjoy the polish independent communist path as well.
@Natpad_027
@Natpad_027 Год назад
I agree that its annoying that only the monarchist, facist and communist path gives you cores, especially because playing poland can be hard and cores are a nicd reward.
@Lady_Evelyn
@Lady_Evelyn Год назад
I think the Democratic peasants union is actually better, being able to build a colonial empire by purchasing British and French colonies is cool so you have somewhere to fall back to in exile, also polish Liberia
@declangaming24
@declangaming24 Год назад
Yes but the cores in the baltics can be stolen by the Soviets
@pidgear267
@pidgear267 Год назад
Personally, i believe that the sanation left has better bonuses in its first part of the tree than the santion right, but being facist is better in hoi4 so....
@pidgear267
@pidgear267 Год назад
After playing more fascist sanation games, I find it very annoying that the military spirit you gain with the "second man of the state" focus, still gives non-aligned support even when choosing to become fascist
@aulus3792
@aulus3792 11 месяцев назад
Why would you go fascist if non aligned is literally better? You get quick war goals with revansism anyway.
@Bzerka333
@Bzerka333 Год назад
This entire time, i never read the name of sanation poland properly. Ive always thought it was sanitation poland. And it confused me as to why they would be called that.
@noahjohnson935
@noahjohnson935 3 месяца назад
I think the Castle is meant to get the bonuses of both the Left and the Right plus the small industry boost
@DarthFhenix55
@DarthFhenix55 Год назад
6:15 So that's basically how the Czechoslovakian people felt back in the day.
@AccelEng
@AccelEng Год назад
Thanks for this review! I must admit, these paths are the ones I've basically never taken as Poland -- going monarchist just seems to be far superior, and the Red/Brown paths are... er, okayish, I guess But yeah, the healthy variety here is nice Also, as a weaboo, I find it funny that Poland has an overall healthier and a more diverse tree than Japan or even Germany... sigh, oh well ~O~
@LegiyonEhellout
@LegiyonEhellout Год назад
That Backstroke of the West refrence! I gotta say, Stalin in this video really was usless sir Edit: Someone, maybe even you, could make a hoi4 video where all the commentary is BotW quotes. Too bad April1st was a few months ago
@zoltanhorvath5989
@zoltanhorvath5989 Год назад
The best thing what I love in the Polish tree, there is no idiotic balance of whatever...
@hagymascsiposgyros5780
@hagymascsiposgyros5780 Год назад
bubbles zest implies the existence of one singular bubble zest
@efftohd
@efftohd Год назад
You could actually form the Commonwealth rather easily with the Sanationist Left if Lithuania refuses to cooperate, since Democracies get the Local Autonomy occupation law. Though, keeping in mind that's only really feasible if you stay at peace for as long as possible.
@RoseGod0682
@RoseGod0682 Год назад
I thought if you puppet Lithuania, you could just press the button and it would an extended giving you causing Lithuania if you had it as a puppet
@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest Год назад
No no, that's what you do for the monarchist tree. and only if you're reforming the commonwealth through focus
@RoseGod0682
@RoseGod0682 Год назад
@@BubblesZest K thanks
@Emel_unlegit
@Emel_unlegit Год назад
Funny coincidence that the soviet justification is done on my birthday, just some years earlier
@degekkesquad2206
@degekkesquad2206 Год назад
I feel like you're sleeping on the legion of merit way too much, it's just like the spirit of benhard for switzerland
@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest Год назад
2:05, 17:53. I left it out in the other two segments cause it wasn't relevant. It's fine but it's a spirit you can leave behind and won't destroy a run.
@declangaming24
@declangaming24 Год назад
I had to see the war bit as I wanted to see what would happen but what a surprise Neville chamberlain decides to help the polish but there going to have to go through Germany or use the navy and smash through to land in the baltic states
@JoeBidenIcecream
@JoeBidenIcecream Год назад
Poland in question
@colBoh
@colBoh Год назад
Just curious, how do you get this game to run so fast, especially when recording? Do you have a super fast computer or just an ungodly number of optimization mods?
@mrr9636
@mrr9636 Год назад
Can you give local autonomy to Lithuania to speed up compliance enough to core it?
@rps215
@rps215 Год назад
Oh and that From Sea to Sea focus is stronger than you think, it gives you cores part of Russia as well as Ukraine and Belarus, similar to Friedrich Cristian path. Sure not as good as Anastasia Romanov one, but more core is good.
@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest Год назад
This is false.
@rps215
@rps215 Год назад
@@BubblesZest I tried it again and indeed the tooltip is wrong, most of the claims in this focus have an addition of cores in them. The only ones that you don't get cores are the ones in Southern Ukraine, only claims.
@lisynski6040
@lisynski6040 Год назад
i feel like you kind of undersold the mościcki path. while i do agree it is the least interesting of all the sanacja paths, it definitely has more potential than you let on to it. the main reason that the castle path doesn't have all too much in terms of positioning yourself for the german and/or soviet onslaught is that a lot of the historical aspect is in the rightmost government-in-exile branch, allowing you to do a warsaw uprising (and one to much more effect than in real life). its a shame that that branch of the polish tree gets ignored so frequently, considering it is the historical path for a nation which is basically a major.
@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest Год назад
Soo, literally what I said? That it suffers from historical path syndrome. Also if you really want to do the gov in exile I'd champion Habsburg Poland for that, even done a video on that.
@lisynski6040
@lisynski6040 Год назад
@@BubblesZest Oh, I haven't seen that one yet. I'll have to give it a watch later.
@aulus3792
@aulus3792 11 месяцев назад
@@BubblesZest He could get construction speed bonus for civs and chemic industry as he did irl. Also more stability for being the least radical one.
@andreaspittas1543
@andreaspittas1543 Год назад
Isn't Backstroke of the West that weird Chinese dub bootleg of Revenge of the Sith?
@hopfinatorischerkuchenkrieger
My Challenge: Play The Castle/Maintain the Dictatorship path and try to have fun.
@slava313630
@slava313630 Год назад
If you want to play San right I would recomend to loot factories first, than take -15% factories and than do political tree. You'll be late for free anexations of Lithuania and Latvia, but your game will be +- historical with war with german in 1939 and with USSR in 1941 with decent chance to hold.
@danielastadler39
@danielastadler39 Год назад
Its gonna take some time to get used to the close up pfp
@albert6970
@albert6970 Год назад
What is your division template
@andrewr2572
@andrewr2572 Год назад
You can reform the commonwealth and gain Lithuanian and Latvian cores if you release Lithuania as a puppet and then select the decision. Once you do that it’ll re annex Lithuania and give you the cores
@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest Год назад
Unfortunately not the case, what you're thinking of is when the Commonwealth is reformed through focus like in the monarchist tree.
@endzor
@endzor Год назад
0:33 why?? You lose so much tempo, you can do a lot in political tree or in industry one, you can capture danzig for free 75pp, you can do whatever, but not rush this reform, you can time it. Example, you have 10 days left, if you click the reform IT will give you 70 days bonus until revolt, so you will complete focus and have no revolt, even though u had just 10 days left!
@BubblesZest
@BubblesZest Год назад
Cause it's not that important, this ain't a mid-max video.
@endzor
@endzor Год назад
@@BubblesZest i think you should min-max games where you choose weak focus tree paths. (compared to other focus tree paths)
@Mo_Mudabber
@Mo_Mudabber Год назад
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