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Jade Tan-Holmes, Corry Will and Luke Cutforth discuss a question about some very sneaky sheep.
FULL EPISODES: Listen via www.lateralcast.com/ or wherever you get your podcasts.
LATERAL is a weekly podcast about interesting questions and even more interesting answers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit www.lateralcast.com
GUESTS:
Jade Tan-Holmes: ‪@upandatom‬, / upndatom
Corry Will: ‪@SciGuys‬, / corrywill
Luke Cutforth: ‪@SciGuys‬, / lukecutforth
HOST: Tom Scott.
QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe.
RECORDED AT & EDITED BY: The Podcast Studios, Dublin.
EDITOR: Julie Hassett.
GRAPHICS SYSTEM & DESIGN: Chris Hanel at Support Class.
GRAPHICS ASSISTANCE: Dillon Pentz.
MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of epidemicsound.com).
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS: Josh Halbur, Ben Justice, Lewis Tough, Arun Uttamchandani, Eglė Vaškevičiūtė.
FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd.
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott.
© Pad 26 Limited (www.pad26.com) / Labyrinth Games Ltd. 2022.

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@subinmdr Год назад

Warning: Don't let your sheep watch this video!!

@Seth9809 Год назад

WHERE IS THE VIDEO?

@NickyG-NZ Год назад

"Is Wales terribly relevant?" "No, not at all. " *Angry Welsh noises.

@dbadilotti 6 месяцев назад

Funniest part of the piece.

@KBRoller 6 месяцев назад

Wales gave us Michael Sheen and Rob Brydon, so clearly it's relevant. (I would also include Tom Jones, but I'm a bit too young to be in his demographic, and frankly, I hate his music 😅) *EDIT* Oh, oh! And most of the cast of Torchwood!

@teucer915 Год назад

I still want the termite video even though the house is free of them now

@connorjohnson7834 11 месяцев назад

As someone who's grown up on a sheep farm, I can say sheep are very good at getting to places you don't want them too

@sammarks9146 Год назад

As an American (with kiwi parents) hearing two Brits and an Aussie speculate on the rules of baseball in the full podcast was hilarious 😂

@aarondavis8943 Год назад

I was considering a kiwi sheep joke response but that would be beneath all of us.

@George_vv Год назад

Now if I ever go to Europe I'm just going to spend the whole time teaching as many sheep as I can to roll across those.

@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug 3 месяца назад

Run around in a big fluffy jacket and roll across every grid you find when sheep are near?

@Tolyuhh Год назад

Seen a sheep in NSW just do a straightforward running jump over a cattle grid.

@glossaria2 9 месяцев назад

When Jade exclaimed "sheep are really smart!" my first thought, having a family member who keeps sheep, was "no, they're REALLY not." But they ARE good at following the leader, which is probably why this "viral" behavior was a problem.

@BenYarmis Год назад

3:16 Do electric sheep dream of androids?

@markblacket8900 2 месяца назад

surely these ones were acoustic

@BodyMusicification Год назад

I had never heard of cattle grids until now. The Wikipedia article helped

@Nejvyn Год назад

Same. But I had to laugh when the wikipedia article was like: "They work on all different kinds of livestock and also on wildlife, depending on the specifications. But goats? No way."

@arnoldhau1 Год назад

Never been out in the real world? They are everywhere here in the Alps and Jura and hills and and and...

@panda4247 Год назад

@@arnoldhau1 been in the real world, never heard or seen this. In my country the flocks of sheep (or cattle for that matter) are herded on large open pastures and closed in their pens during the night. that's what the herding dogs are for. Or somebody may have a large piece of land, surrounded by a fence (wooden or electric) and the road is closed by a gate.

@MegaLokopo 11 месяцев назад

@@panda4247 And there is no drain like object beneath the gate?

@edwardlane1255 Год назад

I've seen a few sheep roll all over a cattle grid - I think near merthyr , didn't know I was meant to set off the warning klaxon

@DanielsPolitics1 6 месяцев назад

“Jump on the barbed wire in full combat dress and let the platoon walk over your back” is one of the official answers to “there is barbed wire in the way of the military advance”.

@WeatherInOrlando Год назад

I knew this one immediately because I remember reading about it in a book of animals facts in the late 90s! That book happened to be 'Beastly Behaviour: True Animal Tales' by... Rolf Harris

@lawrencecalablaster568 Год назад

It must’ve been Harold who taught them- he is that most dangerous of animals, the clever sheep!

@12Q46HPRN Год назад

Exactly what I was thinking of! They learned to fly!

@arm_613 Год назад

@@12Q46HPRN They did not so much as fly but plummet....

@arm_613 Год назад

Yes!!

@brandurell 15 дней назад

This happened in the faroe Islands as well. One crawled on its knees over, and the rest of the flock learned from her

@communications23 Год назад

That's the best example of infohazard I have ever heard.

@88porpoise 9 месяцев назад

Based on my experience with sheep, I believe the second one is more liekly to be an accodent. One sheep gets stuck and the rest just walk over it not noticing. I dont know whether pigs or sheep were a bigger PITA to move. Pigs will constantly try to evade and run past you, but they will pretty much always move and it is up to your ability to contain and direct them. Meanwhile, sheep are far easier to keep igoimg the right direction, but when a big group of sheep decides not to move in a confined space, they might as well be hunks of concrete.

@panman1964 Год назад

"Blaenau Ffestiniog , Wales" feels as superfluous as putting "London, England" over a picture of Tower Bridge ;o)

@seizan88 Год назад

I love this series :'D

@TrainBoi227 7 месяцев назад

Scott!! It's not Blan-ow, it's Blay-nigh!!

@peteface24 10 месяцев назад

"Is Wales terribly relevant?" "No, not at all."

@outsideaglass 6 месяцев назад

I just love Lateral! Bring together my nerd girl Jade with my queer boy Corry (sorry don't know Luke, I'll look him up now!) and it just makes me so happy. Everyone is so fun and smart, great to listen to!

@drakedbz Год назад

Now we know where the idea for the pokemon came from. There is a sheep pokemon that gets around by rolling.

@cyborglion4179 Год назад

My guess before watching the video. It was something memetic. The sheep were teaching each other how to do something that made infastructire obsolete. Like jumping fences

@lucindao 4 месяца назад

If anyone else wants to read the original story it was reported in the Sunday Times which has an archive on Gale Primary Sources. It's called "A Flock of Brain waves" and was written by Henry Porter and published on Sunday March 31st, 1985, Issue: 8382. Unfortunately, because I found it through my university website, I can't post a link.

@kaComposer 3 месяца назад

This is how aliens discuss stopping us from discovering faster than light travel

@osmia Год назад

This is a whole premise for a science fiction story!

@piggnant Год назад

maybe in an Aardman animation!

@Cchogan Год назад

Ah! Have you perhaps fallen for some Urban (or rural) legend? I just tried to find a video of this, only to discover a story about this happening in Yorkshire, not Wales. (BBC 2004). Another article about it (from Wales) quotes a comment from a farmer saying it is common in Wales. And sheep are good jumpers too - some can simply clear the Cattle Grid. Others walk around the edge, and some simply tiptoe. There are also stories of rolling sheep from Ireland. However, I can't find anything about quarantining sheep because of this. And that wouldn't make a lot of sense anyway, since unless you sell a herd, there is only one reason they will move from the farm - and it is a one-way trip....

@lateralcast Год назад

I originally read about it in "The art of looking sideways" by Alan Fletcher, which quotes its source as The Sunday Times, April 1985. And if you don't believe animals can't learn from each other, millions of blue tits who opened milk bottle tops would disagree. -- David

@renerpho Год назад

@@lateralcast Well, the Sunday Times have an online archive, and the 1985 issues are available. I feel that someone should look for the original source. It may not be you, David, but someone should do it.

@Cchogan Год назад

@@lateralcast - All animals learn from each other. That is how evolution works! But they do have to meet up to learn. I am not sure sheep rolling is an online course yet.... 🤣

@lucindao 4 месяца назад

@@lateralcast Found the source. It's called "A Flock of Brain waves" and was written by Henry Porter. It was published in the Sunday Times on Sunday March 31st, 1985, Issue: 8382. I found it through my university website so I can't post a link, but it was in Gale Archives.

@KBRoller 6 месяцев назад

Any Minecrafter knows that all it takes to properly pen sheep are some fences and carpets.

@bzqp2 10 месяцев назад

Lol, that's some Shaun-the-Sheep-level of development :o

@sweetsandcharades8383 8 месяцев назад

I feel really, really bad for the that one sheep-turned-bridge. I hope this was before shearing season so that the coat was thick and could shield it.

@NeonDripKitty Год назад

possible origin of a certain pokemon sheep maybe, hmm

@seanyem Год назад

@TomScott Electric Mountain is in Dinorwig , Llanberis. Not Ffestiniog, its about 30miles away!

@marcstender1567 Год назад

sheep world domination

@marksimmons5872 2 месяца назад

Sheep Prometheus is real mad about this one

@uplink-on-yt Год назад

Next time someone calls me a sheep, I'll take it as a compliment.

@richardl6751 6 месяцев назад

Pink Floyd "Sheep" comes to mind.

@anotherone5235 Год назад

"Oh yeah, that's Harold."

@panda4247 Год назад

I have never heard of cattle grids... lol

@yveslafrance2806 6 месяцев назад

Sheepnanigans !

@samuelturner6076 Год назад

I was laughing for several minutes after hearing the answer! Free the sheep, if they want to make it harder for human players to farm their resources I’m all for it, the meta needs a shakeup, and I do enjoy sheep resources.

@ZevEisenberg Год назад

Let my sheeple go

@chesshead Год назад

How and when does the quarantine end? When they've forgotten to roll, or when they are plump enough for eating?

@thedoginthewok 10 месяцев назад

The forbidden knowledge lol

@ved7554 10 месяцев назад

now i want a pet sheep

@amelialikesfrogs5778 Год назад

something about full video episodes

@edgarleft Год назад

Be happy that they do at least have clips. They could also have done the audio versions only. But people be always complaining.

@HinataPlusle 9 месяцев назад

Hold on. Is that some sort of inspiration for Wooloo (yes, the Pokémon)? Because it's a sheep that rollls on its back rather than walk.

@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug 3 месяца назад

I'm pretty sure I've seen both cows and sheep just carefully walk across them... If they're sufficiently rusty worn they can fairly easily just balance their feet on the bars without slipping and walk... I always thought it was simply there to slow them down, not stop them completely. Also I thought they mainly worked by scaring them off because they generally dislike walking over logs and other things that could hurt their legs, but if they're not afraid of the bars they aren't really much of a physical barrier. Most of them even has metal plates where the tires of cars would go as extra reinforcement which any animal can just walk across if they're not afraid.

@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug 3 месяца назад

I just googled it and it apparently have kept happening with several more flocks who independently figured out the rolling method. I also found a video of a sheep who figured out it could just walk slowly across because the trench below the bars was apparently not deeper than the length of its legs.

@timothyjohnston4083 Год назад

There's a Gary Larson "The Far Side" comic in this story somewhere.... :)

@sonan333 Год назад

What does Tom's mic cover say?

@augur1975 Год назад

This would have been a single airing interesting news segment on the evening tv news in 1985 (ish), why did my brain decide to store enough of it that 35 years later it could immediately answer this question. Did 10 year old me find the idea of sheep doing this thing that worthy of note? 😖

@bj.a.j. 11 месяцев назад

somehow the answer reminded me of cartoon 'shaun the sheep'

@robertwilloughby8050 Год назад

From the mid 50's to the mid 80's there was an infestation of funnel web spiders in Bristol. Luckily, the spider breed was not fatal - in fact, it just caused mild inflamation and itchiness if it bit you - but the UK government wasn't taking any chances and had them eradicated by 1990.

@dobbysurfs Год назад

Four legs good,two legs bad!

@JesperoTV Месяц назад

I feel like it's worth mentioning that you do not, in fact, need to kill the sheep to get their wool...

@emoharalampiev1590 10 месяцев назад

Ok, looking up cattle grid at the start of the vid instead of the end to learn what it is would have been more useful, but hey XD

@fsodn 2 месяца назад

The US idiom for that device (at least the part of the US where I'm from, upper midwest) is "cattle guard".

@emoharalampiev1590 2 месяца назад

@@fsodn Haha yeah I don't think that would have really helped, ain't heard of that either. (also pretty sure those aren't idioms)

@NStripleseven Год назад

Memetic sheep knowledge

@karlkastor Год назад

Imagine Vegan guerillas teaching sheep this technique and then distributing them around the country.

@daftpunkking909 Год назад

Ha. 1st time I knew what it was going to be before they all did. Remembering that story too!

@TravlinThomas 9 месяцев назад

There are tons of youtube videos with sheep crossing cattle grids; apparently it's not that difficult.

@renerpho Год назад

Has anyone ever deliberately tried to teach sheep how to do this? Maybe out of spite, or simply as a weird act of terrorism?

@aarondavis8943 Год назад

I'm surprised sheep can problem solve _and_ learn from each other to this degree. Impressive.

@MegaLokopo 11 месяцев назад

Grand theft auto Sheep.

@roadrunnercrazy Год назад

Luke needs to know that sheep don't need to be killed to have their wool harvested.

@57thorns Год назад

It is a common misconception among vegans.

@roadrunnercrazy Год назад

@@lauschangriff "the equipment that is used to kill them and take their wool" - Luke

@Christian-mf4jt Год назад

I noticed that, and I wonder whether he just meant equipment to kill them (slaughterhouse tools) separately from equipment to take their wool (shearing tools), or if it was really meant as a logical sequence.

@amiscellaneoushuman3516 Год назад

he quite clearly says "make all their meat unusable" and "make their wool unusable" as two separate problems which would make "the equipment... used to kill them *and* [the equipment used to] take their wool" obsolete

@thegraygoo Год назад

@@roadrunnercrazy "Make the meat... and wool unusable making the equipment used to kill them and take their wool" It tracks, Wool sheep require equipment required to take their wool, Meat sheep need to be killed to take their meat

@sidkemp4672 Год назад

Video evidence, my friends: Sheep jumping and side-stepping a cattle grid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v-RxCZU6Gp0.html. Sheep crossing a cattle guard with care: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5rIbZWblPaA.html. And a joke: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z32-DDFx0dU.html

@MrMiftah100 10 месяцев назад

Must be Shaun The Sheep.

@FrostyButter 9 месяцев назад

So sheep *_can_* do more than just eat and pee in the water ;)

@catsrsuper 11 месяцев назад

Note to the team, Bleaenau is pronounced Blaen-ai, not au.

@Slikx666 Год назад

That'll explain the reason I can't count them to get to sleep, they've all run away. 😆

@serhiyint Год назад

They wanted to reach the Cosmos Laundromat!

@samuelgunter 6 месяцев назад

most convincing argument to become vegan. still won't, but the best attempt so far

@divedrop Год назад

Yet to watch this but I assume it’s brilliant as ever :)

@JohnDoe-tx8lq Год назад

Learn to follow each other to somehow roll over the gate? maybe. 🤔 But NO WAY would sheep work together to help each other that way, they follow - like sheep! - by instinct and protection, but they're not like ants that sacrifice themselves for the greater good. "lambs to the slaughter" not "I'll lay down and you lot get away!"😆

@putumban7738 Год назад

Now i’m just imagining vegan terrorists in a secret base training sheep to roll over these things

@jefgir Год назад

They wouldn't be terrorists, they would be abolitionists

@AngDavies Год назад

Irl cognitohazard :)

@edgarleft Год назад

*spoilers for solution* But how do the sheep communicatie? Or let they just show it to the others, and they watch and replicate it.

@magnemoe1 Год назад

One sheep does it probably by accident. the other saw this and one or more tried it and they made it work so more sheep tried it. Soon all in the flock knew this tricks.

@markusklyver6277 Год назад

You can learn an awful lot by just trying stuff other people do.

@u1849ka Год назад

Not sure if I misheard, but sheep do not need to be killed to get their wool. The sheering process is perfectly safe and comfortable for the sheep. I've seen the lie that sheep are killed for wool spread on social media here and there, so just to be safe...

@renerpho Год назад

Maybe he didn't mean equipment "to kill them and take their wool", but "equipment to kill them, and equipment to take their wool". Both is done, just not at the same time or with the same tools.

@FalconFetus8 Год назад

If an AI did this, we would start asking philosophical questions about if the AI could become a person or not.

@noelward8047 Год назад

Jeremy Clarksons sheep were quite smart Haha

@pyrodblaze5550 Год назад

This video is banned from sheeptube😂

@ciaramc29 Год назад

But they couldn't teach other farm animals, so the cattle grid wouldn't be obsolete for all animals.

@thekaxmax Год назад

Cows have been observed learning from aheep

@carolbeckett7922 Год назад

and people think that sheep are stupid

@MiseFreisin Год назад

Well I mean, it seems like there's a very small number of sheep that eventually figure it out, or just get lucky and the other nearby sheep just copy that so I don't know that this proves they aren't stupid, maybe just not as stupid as people think

@tonypang83 Год назад

I'd say the the sheep were put in isolation rather than quarantined. Quarantine is only when there's some disease you don't want to spread, right?

@lateralcast Год назад

Meaning #4: www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quarantine

@tonypang83 Год назад

@@lateralcast After the last few years of Covid, I can only associate quarantine with contagious disease control 😅. I checked out Cambridge Dictionary online, and all their definitions are related to diseases (or the spread of some other harmful things)

@gljames24 Год назад

@@tonypang83 I mean sharing knowledge does count as a viral phenomenon with memetics.

@MartijnBeekhuis Год назад

You can take the wool without killing the sheep you know 😛

@UserUnknown07 Год назад

Mother nature will not forgive us for what they did to those innocent deserving sheep.

@IAmMamunHasan Год назад

This is a crime against the sheep community, humans have stopped spreading sheep knowledge...

@JHaven-lg7lj Год назад

Oh my gosh you mean they *can* learn? …this is not good

@ItsDeveloper_ Год назад

Clips = no Full episodes = yes Listen to your audience tom

@edgarleft Год назад

Lateral with Tom Scott fans try not to complain that they don't release full episodes challenge: Impossible.

@warrust Год назад

reported for spam

@edgarleft Год назад

@@warrust good idea, but I don't think it will work, cause they say the same thing but everytime in different words.

@MiseFreisin Год назад

@@WrenFJ OP is not politely requesting

@hebl47 Год назад

@@warrust How is this spam‽

@littleman8674469 Год назад

Sheep aren't killed when they're sheared 😒😒

@MurderWho 2 месяца назад

"Sheep are really smart!" Oh, no, god no. Everytime the sheep found a new way to leave the pen, I had to go rescue them from the forest, where they would be at least almost dead by the time I found them. They would like, be upside down in a ditch and no idea how to right themselves. Or they tried to enter the river and got their leg stuck in mud and were slowly sinking and too terrified to move. Or somehow you have a sheep hanging by its neck from a branch, and slowly choking. We never ate lamb on purpose, but we did have unexpected lamb a fair bit.