Another one would be: play the trooper class story with dark side decisions. It's hilarious. You get to be a complete jerk to everyone. You are rude and insubordinate to General Garza; you assassinate senators when they threaten to investigate your squad; you kill enemies instead of taking them prisoner; you steal weapons, etc. Plus it has some nice gems of dialog such as "swallow a grenade and do us all a favor" and "I'm not just a thug in a uniform - I'm a heavily armed thug in a uniform".
@@feyefall4855 I know this was 5months ago but my first time playing was was last month and I chose trooper for my first playthrough, I thought I would have a tough time with also being mean especially because I've never done it in any other game like this but as the leader of Havoc I instantly felt the power and started getting big and bad with anyone that would tell me no.
I would also submit the Sith Warrior storyline as a lightsider. it is amazing how compelling a character a Sith Lord can be when they are simply not a dick. Also, the added tension of you and your apprentice being secretly not evil is awesome.
I would argue that the Sith Inquisitor storyline is the best. You start from nothing and rise to the echelons of power. You really feel that sense of progression and the reward is satisfying.
In my opinion the Sith Warrior story is the best, even when it comes to the choices, because it not only changes the story in some ways, but it also influences one companion so much, that you actually decide if she stays the good person that she is or if she turns into a blood-thirsty psychopath, making her so unique and a stand out companion. Plus Vette is probably the best companion in the game, especially when you romance her, outranking Kira by a lot. And the ending is just soooo satisfying, especially when you choose the dark side option. I felt kind of betrayed that the final choice of the Jiedi Knight regarding the last boss in the jedi Knight story line was completely irrelevant to the actual ending. In every other class story you actually get the choice to show mercy or to kill your target for good, leaving space for a lot of speculation. And the Sith Warrior story also makes sense for KOTFE because you were his favorite sith, you impressed him and he actually states this a couple of times in the original class story. PS: This does not mean that I didn't like your video, I enjoyed it quit a lot, I simply wanted to state my opinion on the matter. :)
I was going to say that, I've only played Sith warrior on KOTFE so far, and the dialogues seem soo fitting to the "Emperor's Wrath". I do not see for example, the Trooper, or the Smuggler as the chosen one by the imortal emperor...
Light side sith inquisitor had a situation when a random jedi accused me of trying to corrupt and influence some kids and he went: "I'll expose your dark side for all to see... umm... why aren't you evil?"
The inquisitor story fits very well with the latest expansions I think, right in the beginning at level one you are constantly told you were a slave so the entire story is your rise to power from the lowest possible area in the empire to becoming the strongest in the galaxy with the help of others of course.
I love just going to tython finding new people grouping up with them teaching them about stuff and then Usually at the end will give them like 200,000 credits to start off with. I just like being able to make someones day, and that's one of the easiest ways I've found to do it.
I like that as well, and don't forget about just cruising the planet and giving new players your Legendary buffs, especially when you'll be there a while starting a new character.
I'd add to the Imperial Agent that you should play it last. It is really good if you play it first, but it references so many other class stories that you should really play it last to understand all of it.
Tanking Eternity Vault with my guild using my Sith Assassin were some of the most fun and memorable moments I had with this game. Every class story is good if you pay attention to the dialogue and take the time to enjoy it.
I. Hate. This "Special Snowflake Stat" called 'Mastery' It ruins the diversity of the player Classes and particular bonuses that were offered by them through the diverse Primary Stats.
If we talk about a swtor player should do at least once ill say doing a pvp match. not all ppl like it but it really is a must to try it at least once to work with ur teamates to win the opossing team
O my God!!! I still remember when I first was doing HK 51 quest, it took me 12 hours. I grinded for whole day, I remember the feel after I got him. Started when it was daylight, finished when it was a deep night, the memories! ;(
First time through, I played a JK, and the storyline was amazing. I didn't realize, though, that I was allowed to romance anyone... I was trying to be a "good" Jedi. Years later, I found out that Theron Shan was Grandmaster Satele's son, and I logged out and made a new JK, so I could romance Kira. =) If it's ok for the Grandmaster of the Jedi Order, it's OK for me!
@@kapitan19969838 It is, actually. The Consular storyline brings up that while marriage is usually not allowed, the Council might make exceptions in certain cases. For instance, if they have faith that a marriage will not lead to one or both members of the relationship falling to the Dark Side, they might allow it. I believe it's specifically brought up if the Consular romances Nadia, but I'm not 100% certain as I've been away from the game for a long time and I'm only just getting back into it.
@@gamester512 It ISN'T. Hence the rule, exceptions don't make the rule non-existent or invalid. They are just that: exceptions. And even so, I would argue that even in the instance of an exception it still is not okay.
I think it's most fun to play your story (regardless of class) by playing opposites. Playing as a dark jedi or light sith create the coolest moments. My friends and I love it. or at least we did until I stopped playing SWTOR
That's a great point! I did enjoy playing a light side sith warrior, (he and Vette hit it off great). Sometimes it's hilarious to play a dark Jedi who just never, ever gets kicked out of the order despite wanton slaughter. Fun times!
Would also add: +Sith Warrior Story +The Maelstrom Prison/The Foundry Flashpoints +The Battle of Ilum/False Emperor flashpoints +The Priority Targets World Boss Hunt
I can see that. The Revan Flashpoints (from both sides) are all noteworthy for sure, and a good questline tying them together. Defintely loved FE for the logest time. I was never much for the World Boss hunts, though. Great list though, Matei!!!
For best dialog, go with Bounty Hunter. Seriously, I roll on the floor so much when hearing that character. "What are you doing with that eel tank?" "I accidentally wandered in here."
I wish they had implemented controller support. It would make platforming actually doable for those of us with physical difficulties that cannot efficiently, accurately and consistently perform the necessary abilities required when using a keyboard and a mouse.
I agree with all of this :) I definitely think the dread master saga should have been added in addition as well. Also, one thing that I've always liked about this game was its world pvp. Now it's nonexistent, but when it was here, it was one of my favorite things to do.
First Eternity Vault experience: Half an hour of trash. Die seconds after 2nd boss (lava). Be a moron and "return to Medbay" (which was Makeb for me). Then port back and run ALL the way inside from the beginning. Then get lost in the Pylon area due to not being there to see the route. Not getting the achievement for the Council as it is a "common" bug. Then fall at the final boss and watch the dirt for 10 minutes. Second Eternity Vault experience: It was awesome. Worth it. :)
One thing you should do at least once in Eternity Vault: get into that one excape pod that blows up on landing, killing you before you start combat. Happened to me three times now since go-live.
My top is what you need to do. 1. Full light side story on the emp side complete. And full dark side on the rep side. 2. Inquisitor story line best for me. You got to see the ending. Best in game for me. 3. Ziost... the best of the best story line for me. Everything after that goes in the different way. Totally wrong atmosphere in the next additions.
I would add. Do the Sith Warrior story line. It is the story line that gives you the classic Darth Vader type feel. Though I was disappointed latter on when the expansions seemed to forget your relationship with the emperor as a sith warrior.
I think the fight revan pick was spot on, should have been higher, I get chills every time I hear him speak of his past and how his exploits make him the one who must end the emperor. And his last words and ode to his best friend Malak. I almost cry everytime...
I think The Esseles-flashpoint is the most memorable single experience from the game I ever had. I was in the early access and managed to get in a few days earlier. This was my first MMO and it took a bit of time to get used to the gamestyle but on the second day I finished Tython, got my lightsaber for my knight and became Jedi Sentinel on the fleet. Then I was heading to Coruscant but the questgiver npc asked me to travel on that ship and what an adventure it grew to be! My fem sentinel, my droid companion and a smuggler with his comp against the Imperial invaders!
I have to say, my favorite story is the inquisitor because of the rise of absolute power in the sith, each chapter taking out an even more powerful enemy to grow your own power. Plus the companions are cool and pretty good
I remember trying to get the Datacron on Makeb. Man did we fail a lot. We were 10 people and no one knew how to do it. But I would do it all over again.
For some reason, I have a tendency to delete characters at random as well as make them in tandem with each other so that they are completely opposite each other in all ways. Weapons, armor, personality, everything. All opposites. I want to do a duel-wield bounty hunter and a assault cannon trooper, for instance.
My favorite parts of the game is just crafting color dyes and selling them, after so much game play the fighting becomes kinda automatic pilot like... I'm like a SWTOR zombie sometimes, crafting dyes gives me a sense of accomplishment. I do agree the imperial agent does have the best ship and storyline though. I didn't try an agent until I did most of the others and I never regretted it. Just wish they had force powers and a lightsaber.. :)
I played through all of the story lines in vanilla and avoided the agent because I didn't think it would be very interesting. Man did I ever get it wrong. The Imperial Agent was by far the most dynamic of all the story lines. It had depth and layers beyond any two of the other story lines put together. It was absolutely my favorite, and like the host of this video I'd HIGHLY recommend it to any who haven't played through.
The Operation "Eternity Vault" is one of my favorites, despite it being so easy even on the hardest mode that you could run it blindfolded, but the whole lore about the Rakata is interesting, and as far as it's known, they were the dominating species thousands of years ago, the true Dark side Force users long before Jedi and Sith ever existed. The Shroud, as well as The Dread Seed (I think it was called) quest lines were a lot of fun, combined with datacron hunting, took you to some spectacular places you never been before. As for the class stories, Sith Warrior is one of the best also, it is the most central class in the game apart from Jedi Knight, though one way or another the stories are connected, each class telling the story from their perspective, combined painting the big picture. All stories are great though!
One suggestion to new players. This is something I've told players several times in game. Do EVERY side quest, doubly true now that the XP and ranking system has been fixed. Before it was a requirement to do every quest in the game. Korriban, do every quest, leave the planet at level 10. Now you'll leave at level 15-ish. This is key because the story bosses became nothing more than a five minute duel and no fear of defeat.
Dread Fortress and Dread Palace are definitely two of the finest crafted sets of raids in the game. The boss fights are awesome! I would have considered them for this list, but they lack the set pieces that make Soa and Revan so much fun. Great fights though... they certainly have a special place in my raiding history!
Start with a Sith Inquisitor as your first character. Do a Jedi Consular next (and you can even make him a Sith, if you ran a Pureblood Sith for your Inq and thus unlocked the species for all classes), and link him in your Legacy tree to your Inq as child or sibling (people who have played the two should understand why). It really leads to a great opportunity for head-canon, complete with ancient lineages, hereditary special force powers, and an amazing justification for creating your own sub-faction dedicated to the Third Option between the Jedi and Sith religions.
as a old sub and new scrub I love the Warrior story line as you rise to power in the sith ranks and your story in the KOTFE is about the continuation of you and Marr hunting down the emperor, the emperor people have served for years and has been silent, and ending him. To me it was like cleaning house kind of story but i cant wait to get them all to 50 ! a little late to the party but oh well haha .
One of the most exhilarating pieces of content for me was when I decided to run 'The False Emperor' /solo/ (No companion, nothing) with my Sith Juggernaut. Her facing down Malgus one on one was an amazing experience, and one aspect of this game I will never forget.
That is an AWESOME one to run solo! The debate will always rage whether it was a good move or not to make the flashpoints group-optional, but it did open up moments like this... being able to face down the last boss of massive story arc in one-on-one combat! Fantastic!
I can see why he put the JK story on top, as an homage to KOTOR, even though most feel Agent is the best. Another story one must playthrough is the Sith Warrior for this reason--in chapters II and III, most stories are dying...that's when the SW story takes off. I don't want to spoil anything for those who may not have yet played through it, but after Hoth everything changes for your Jugg/Marauder. Like the Agent, the Warrior is well worth multiple playthroughs
IMO, the Sith Warrior story line is far superior to that of its counterpart - the Jedi Knight. It's a far more engaging story all the way through, and you get personalized interaction with Vitiate/Valkorian prior to Shadow of Revan. It is also the best story fit for KotET due to this relationship as the Emperor's Wrath. Also, the Jedi Consular is a better story and fit for KotET than the Knight, as the Consular has spent most of the early character quest line building an alliance to take on the Empire. That experience comes directly into play on Rishi and Yavin 4 in Shadow of Revan... and to a greater degree throughout KotET. Not to mention the fact that the Consular was the one who eventually takes on the Children of the Emperor in the later stages of the class story.
As someone who has played since early access, my advice is....do EVERYTHING in the game!!! No other game has ever made me level 16 characters to max level like this game has. :)
I played the Imperial Agent (Sniper) as my 1 character, though I wanted a Jedi Shadow Tank, and she is still the best of them all - Badassery beyond good and evil ! She is a Chiss, uncompromisingly efficient at getting rid of Jedi and unruly Sith alike, can get 2 assassin droids as companions, the best Ship in the Empire, even in PVP she handles situations with elegancy and utmost proficiency. And all to bring order in the chaos of the Empire.
My very first character was a Jedi Shadow tank. One of my fondest memories of the entire game and the time I played was in the first few days of launch, taking my green double-bladed saber and joining a PUG group for the World Boss on Coruscant. That character is still one of my favorites, despite the class story being dry as toast. The IA story is wonderful, as you know... and continues to be so even if you choose to be a light side softee. I'm really glad you had a fun time with it... that storyline (and the other original 1-50 stories) made the game what it is. I miss the old days of it, but I'm happy to steer players towards what was really good about the game!
@@ZakEmber Efficiency is equated to being evil, though I finished it through the last lightside choice there is to make, because I had enough of the whole overpompous Imperial Command and the whole overconfident Sith Stick. )))
The Macrobinocular questline was a lot of fun... up til the end, when it required me to have a group. Every other mission could be soloed... but not the last.
I played all 8 classes to 50 and got all my companions to 10k (including HK!). I 1000000% agree with you about IA being the best story. Like, there's never been a doubt in my mind since I played it. My Chiss Sniper was a goddamned hero, but no one would ever know. I played it Light Side, and I really, really enjoyed it that way. Also very much agree on JK being KOTOR 3.
In terms of experience, the jedi knight story provides the definitive star wars experience. You get lightsabers, an apprentice and fight sith. The sith storylines are good too, but are too narrow. You only get to see the in-fighting and power plays. But in terms of rpg storyline, agents get the best hands down.
I enjoyed your list...but personally I truly loved the Sith Inquisitor story line, especially the ending. My agent is my most lethal toon, but my Assassin is my most baddest toon overall.
Great list. As a counterpart to the Jedi knight, the sith warrior is also really heavily tied to the events in the last couple of expansions and almost gives the "other side" of that same story. In fact I loved all of the stories
I just came back to the game after only playing a few months after initial release and now I'm bummed I didn't stick with it. However, this list gives me a lot to do. thanks!
10 - Never even considered it, thanks for putting that idea in my head. 9 - While I only play as female characters, I _have_ made sure each character gets their romance sub-plot. 8 - Impossible for free players, right? Well, that sucks. 7 - Tried to, I could never get certain Datacrons. 6 - Tried it, gave up after I couldn't progress past a certain point. 5 - Never even heard of it. 4 - Not a fan of Flashpoint-like missions, I only constantly repeat Black Talon or Esseles for Social Points. 3 - Been there, done that. 2 - Busy with that storyline right now. 1 - Been there, done that.
I have a SWTOR account that I haven't accessed in about a year, before that years. I have about $1000 put into that account, my own place jam packed full with every mount and everything I could get my hands on. Reason why I don't play is because I don't have a PC anymore but TOR is undoubtedly the best game I've ever played. Well, next to Kotor. I have Revan's robes, a shit load of other outfits but my main outfit is pretty sick, don't remember the name. I aged my character over time, he's a Jedi councillor. Orange lightsaber, one powerful weapon. My level is maxed, at least the max level a year ago. I still have stuff equipped from the year of release ;D So when I can log in to check things out I feel old in my outdated armour…but badass nevertheless.
imo killing the sectionx wb to get the helm u wear in tfb nim to kill that hidden boss to get the necklace to summon the s&v hidden boss that drops the dread master helm was the best thing ever .
I totally agreed with the agent storyline. I played it because I had already beaten the Jedi knight and sith warrior and was I picked it hoping it would be like James bond-ish and I was really satisfied
10) Eternity Vault - totally awesome raid!!! 7) Ugh, datacrons... glad it is more viable after the legacy update 6) Shroud Quest... i will have to check that out! 5) Star Wars Zombies, so cool!
Yep! Jennifer Hale! (She's all over this game... she's also Satele Shan and a host of other voices!) A lot of people play female troopers to play Fem Shep again. :D
My sith marauder was supposed to be the son of the jedi Guardian and Kira Carsen but the whole sith emperor thing made that kind of impossible considering the stories take place at the same time. So I just made them siblings instead. Maybe I'll try again with the consular and inquisitor to see how their stories are, and hopefully aren't connect ted to the sith emperor in any way. I'd like a passage of time where the emperor isn't mentioned, meaning he could be dead but the empire is still around. Maybe have a smuggler or bounty hunter who doesn't know they're force sensitive or something. Or a smuggler who was adopted by a bounty hunter after being abandoned by the jedi Guardian, fearing for his life and being taken by the dark side. So many possibilities, I just wish the stories were completely isolated. Or, maybe "the emperor" could imply someone else taking over, or the empire not knowing that the emperor has been dead for a couple decades since in the sith warrior story in chapter 3, you're made the emperor's wrath and you're told by the hands that the emperor has disappeared and needs someone to keep the council in check following the baras incident.
I play the game and I absolutely love it! I don’t have the courage to do any PvP/group things since my skills aren’t that good and are better suited to the PVE side of things. I do hunt Datacrons. And for me, just my opinion, my fav storyline is the JC(Jedi Counselor), especially shadows. I have multiple counselors and I play them all in different ways to avoid them from being too similar. I do play other classes it’s just that that’s my fav.
That's great to hear! The Consular was my first story, (my first character was a Jedi Shadow!), but the story wasn't my favorite. For me, it was crushing, because I love the class, the look, and the abilities. Despite all that though, it's something I love about this game... there really is something for everyone, and it's great to hear that you picked up the torch by loving this story in particular!
Nice man! I lot of folks agree with you on the SI questline. I might have to do a video on why that one is so appealing. (It was my least favorite, but I'm blown away how many people like it, so I'm reexamining its merits.) :D
I want to play Sabbacc, or get a Daily Mission Reward or Flashpoint Loot Drop that is NOT a Shitty Blue "Mk. Gear" piece. I also DO NOT WANT Permanent Level Synching on me: make that option an NPC that could activate/deactivate like the WoW Level Cap NPCs do!
Agreed. A lot of the other players who've defended the other classes, (Mostly Sith Warrior and Sith Inquisitor) fight an uphill battle that boils down to personal preference. The Jedi Knight has actual history with the Emperor for most of their story line, so to me, the choice is clear. Jedi Knight simply the fits the best as you head into KOTFE and KOTET... no question.
Who's trying to trick anyone? *looks innocent* I lucked out... I used it for the video before the song was registered with RU-vid, so I got keep it in. Although 4 years later watching this video, I really wish I had done a better job looping it so there weren't all the gaps.
Good stuff Zak, came here from SWTOR central and after watching some of your vids really gotta say that your are a solid youtuber. Keep up the great videos
The Rishi>Yavin 4>Ziost Storyline is a must, especially if you want to understand who the Emperor truly is. He is the Dark enemy behind every storyline in the game up to the present expansion (KOTET). You have to do it just once, no matter the class, and avoid the temptation to Start Knights of the Fallen Empire when you hit 60. It is a great story, and worth it.
Shadow of Revan Xpac definitely had an epic quality that KOTET hasn't matched yet. Multiple planets, multiple flashpoints, and a heck of a boss! It also brings up the most inconsistent parts of BW's writing: if the Emperor was so much more powerful than Revan, why was the fight against him so much less epic at the end of KOTET? BioWare really wrote themselves into a corner by the end of Ziost having the Emperor able to wipe out all life on a planet from the other side of the Galaxy. There's no way to really fight that. KOTFE and KOTET all seem to be written to bring the Emperor down to a more human, (ie manageable) level, but it also made the final fight against him in KOTET so much less epic. I love the way you think, amigo! Rishi>Yavin 4>Ziost Storyline is definitely one not to miss!
For some reason i always end up romancing Laura Bailey's character, and most of the time i don't even notice that it is her, mostly because i got used to her voice in Critical Role.
great list throughout, and what's funny/ironic is I just got back into the game and am working through the Jedi Knight storyline(with every intention of romancing Kira ) and if I need a break from that, I'll switch to my Agent
My favorite story is the Smuggler, its all about taking revenge from where you lost everything, and it has some even crazier twists than even the agent's story (the agents story is really twisty though lol i loved it)
Crazier twist than HUGE SPOILER ALERT FOR A ALTERNATE ENDING IN THE AGENT STORY the agent actually joining SIS? I don't mean the 2nd chapter, the agent can literally become a double agent in the end of the story.
Hello Zak i just wanne take some time to tell you how awesome u are, tbh its a looong time since ive seen such a good video on swtor, and ur voice dude ur voice is so relaxing and chill i could listen to it for hours, editing is amazing, and ur entertaining af, imo u should have waaaaaaay many more subs then u already have. hope ur channel grows and becomes one of the largest swtor channels out there. Much love: Christopher
+Zak Ember ooh I like that idea! If they add Csilla and the Chiss Ascendancy, i hope there will be more unique dialogue for a Chiss Agent (or maybe even any Chiss character)
