The Top 5 Incredible Mods - Empire At War 

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I guess hell has frozen over, Nancy Pelosi I actually agree with you..

That's the long definition of "Capitalism."

Some of the descriptions in Star Wars Remake are pure gold :D

@@pepperVenge Not really? You can get great content at reasonable prices and crap at unreasonable prices in the same system. It's all about what people think it's worth. Somehow EA has managed to convince people garbage for 60 bucks minimum is good. Be happy it's not a communist system, there you get shit with no other options.

Then all the mods are dead and you have a shitty EA pay-to-win Empire at War 2. Maybe it is good how it is

@@tobr7853 now that ea lost exclusivity there is hope

From what I understand, petroglyph have always been game, now that it's not all EA you never know

The return of lucasfilm games gives me hope. If we can get a new half life game and stalker 2 we have a chance

Now ea and Ubisoft owns the Star Wars license >_>

Yeah but kind of annoying I think still cool though

Yes, but I also like being able to see.

Remake is so laggy bro

@@cowtaplayz8277 you just have to have a good setup

​@@cowtaplayz8277 they just upgraded to a 64 bit engine change. Make sure to turn off Compatibility Mode and give it a try now, learn to change the coding and increase battle sizes by 4x

Really wish they'd remake KOTOR and release on PC, Ps4 and xbox

@@taylodyl000 its a shame the fan remake of kotor got shut down

Well, thank YOU for actively developing it still, even while Corey keeps you in a cage writing complex code for EAW:X. :P lol But still.. so much wouldn't be possible if not for your hard work. So..thank you, Bob. :)

Phoenix Rising despite its performance issues is so underrated imo. Really wish more mods would adapt some of its mechanics.

that mod was my favorite before FOC was ever even released, i'm so happy it's still active :)

More details pls?

@@unequivocalsuffering2734 its a mod for Hearts of Iron IV.

​@@LeoTV100no the mod he is talking about is for eaw

Yeah, I don’t really like the remake mod.

Yeah I hope they flesh out the GC and Land battles.

They will eventually but it’s a small team from what I understand 4 guys I believe and they want unique ground combat

@@AbyssWatcher745 That is exactly what we are working on rn. GC is already done and work on the Ground Overhaul will begin shortly

@@Kasderan I'm sufficiently excited! Good luck!

Still is in 2023 too 💪🏾

Nice

Fall of the Republic should suit you just fine then.

@@Crusader-tg1wx ahaha YES! Empire at War Remake is great because the Lucrehulk’s are just monster ships that devastate anything so long as they’re not outnumbered by small craft or bombers. In Fall of the Republic they’re amazing too, but even though Lucrehulk go brrrrr, their HMP gunships go *BRRRRRR* ahaha. Seriously overpowered, just the way I like it I’m gonna hop back into that mod tonight, thanks!!

Matt Neufeld TR Lucrehulks also go brrrrrr

Agreed, what i also like is that in AotR every ship matters, especially early game, i always like to think of aotr as the survival mod because of how difficult it is early game, you really have to build from the ground up whereas in other mods you can just spam ships left right and center

Would be terrible for a beginner eaw player because of how it’s early game is made for those who know their shit

I would disagree that Aotr is the most polished. It certainly has a clear vision. I do think this mod adds some interesting ideas and gets a few critical things right, but it has some glaring problems. 1. The economy gets in the way of strategy. Now, Aotr does a great job in adding new economic based mechanics. The gas mines and resource bases are both very clever. But the problem is the way the mod takes money away from you. Giving buildings an upkeep cost is a really bad decision ESPECIALY since they have a severely limited garrison. It punishes the player for building ground and space defenses. If you build many buildings, you lose. Which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing but the AI essentially has unlimited funds. So they get turbo lasers, base sheilds, and superweapons but you are prevented from getting the same. How does this get in the way? Well defense is no longer a viable option. You can only succeed in this mod if you attack constantly and never defend a planet. Just sell the ground structures and surrender any planet under attack. You won't win and this way you'll get your credits back. This is really bad for what is supposed to be a war simulator if defending is harder and more costly than attacking. Also the trade ships ONLY give you extra income if they happen to be parked above a planet when the week changes which happens only about 25% of the time. It's a clever idea, but poorly executed. How they should work is like permanent smugglers. Every planet they touch gets a small credit boost that lasts for two to four weeks. And the size of the boost depends on the economy of the planet itself. Currently having ten trade ships stranded on a single planet gives you four times.the funds as the same number of trade ships actually flying on trade routes and that is frustrating. 2. Space combat is gamey an unbalanced. Space combat in Aotr feels like a Call of duty deathmatch. Throw individual ships in random formations to rock paper scissors the other fleet. Which is frankly too much like the original vanilla game. Part of this problem is that the missiles are OP. Being able to penetrate sheilds, and having almost every Starfighter and frigate be equipped with missiles makes them way too powerful compared to actual battleships. The other part of the problem is that the AI camps the space station (which also has a bajillion missiles) So every battle is pretty much identical. 3. The pirate faction gets in the way big time. The corruption mechanic is one of the most hated aspects of the vanilla game, and this mod kept it in. The pirates also have some overpowered units and structures like prince Xizors bribe ability, the plasma satellite turrets, and mass drivers. All things from the base game that they chose to keep in. 4. Other Building stealth units and raids is a potentially interesting mechanic but more often than not just lets the ai use their infinite economy to target your economic planets making it an annoying distraction that doesn't actually affect the game that much. The missions are too frequent and repetetive which wouldnt be an issue if it weren't for the penalties they give for not completing them. I'm biased and don't like that they are including things from the Disney half of the star wars story. Get jakku out of the western part of the galaxy and put the fun planets back with the chiss ascendancy. Or just leave it unknown and lopsided and interesting. Stop trying to make it a boring circle. NOW you can probably tell I like thrawns revenge. So I'd like to mention some things it does well, and some things it does POORLY. 1. Economy My favorite difference is that in this mod UNITS cost upkeep and buildings do not. This is more realistic to actual war, since home terf has strong infrastructure and can make military bases more sustainable but mobile armies generate no income and thus drain it very very quickly. It also encourages defense as a viable tactic allowing more options for viable strategy. BUT it's not without faults. Similar to the trade ships in AOTR, units only cost upkeep of they are parked on your own planet when the week changes. This means you can just hyperspace your largest fleets to a nearby system right before the week changes and get free money. But there is one thing I really like, and that is if you keep your armie on an enemy planet (or the ai parks one on yours) the blockaded planet has to pay for the upkeep of the enemy fleet. Which is just like real war. Just like Sherman's March to the sea, or the Art of War written centuries ago. To keep armies functioning in enemy territory you drain their resources. And it's worked against me too. I've had the ai park thousands of units on a planet of mine without attacking the ground forcing me to take action to either drive them off or bait them away lest I lose all credits. 2. Space combat. Feels GREAT in this game. Formations matter, and there are no dumb rock paper scissors mechanics. There are many many many viable fleet options and they all work wonders. This is mainly because missiles (just like in the star wars Canon itself) do NOT penetrate sheilds, and instead damage the sheilds a large amount. This means that a fleet of bombers can totally take out a super star destroyer. But they aren't cheap kryptonite nullifying sheilds like they never existed. It's also because the friendly ai in this mod works in your favor. If you don't tell ships who to target they will actually make smart targetting decisions and shoot things they are capable of hitting. In the vanilla game and most mods capital ships get distracted by fighters and waste their time but not in thrawns revenge. Also when you tell a ship to target something, it actually targets it with 80% of it's guns. Instead of the 5% int he base game and every other mod. That alone makes thrawns revenge feel so much better. Also space stations in this game are split into multiple structures. Which means there is no longer a single monolith that provides reinforcements AND has all the guns. Instead the guns are spread out, and only one extremely weak structure gives reinforcements which means it can be taken out first in a raid. Or you can target one defense platform on the flank and break the defensive formation There are drawbacks however. Mainly, that hyperspacing on top of the enemy is EXTREMELY powerful. It allows you to instantly create a perfect formation and not worry about travelling at all. This makes defensive battles MUCH more fun than offensive, because you have to rush to build formations WHILE the enemy is attacking. Instead of just copying and pasting the perfect fleet. 3. Factions. They are alright. There is no faction I hate fighting in thrawns revenge. The sheer number of different factions adds some interesting gameplay, but there are campaigns with just three for more traditional play. That being said the factions may be a weaker aspect of thrawns revenge. They tend to fight amongst themselves until one takes over which means early game is easy and late game is tedious. Also they are adding he yuzhang vong And I really dislike that whole faction and story arc. ALSO AOTR has started adding factions like the corporate sector authority, the hutts, and the hapes which is awesome. They just aren't playable yet and are a bit lacking in dimension in the current version. 4 other The mod is extremely well designed from a visual communication perspective. You can always tell what's going on and don't get lost in darkness or explosions. The new government mechanics seem very promising Heros dying permanently is a really great choice that makes the game more balanced and satisfying. The galactic map (while large and a bit intimidating) adds a whole bunch of dynamic play just by adding clusters and distances. It makes certain planets more valuable because they are closer to the rest of your force decreasing travel time. (In AOTR everything is pretty much equadistant making it all feel samey.) Ground defenses combined sheilds and turbolasers making it a more expensive investment for a more complete defense. Which is just a nice quality of life change. Also defending ground bases successfully WILL use up credits. So even if ground defense seem overpowered you ARE paying for each invasion you fend off. Usually in thousands of credits too. Which makes for a nice natural upkeep cost that seems fair and realistic. Finally I will say that the fall of the republic mod is actually a better game than thrawns revenge. It's better balanced and the smaller ships make for more interesting combat. It's just a shame that it doesn't run NEARLY as well as thrawns revenge so only the beefiest computers can handle it. Alright 800 page book over. I still think AOTR is great and does a lot for the community. I simply think that it has some weaknesses (just like any mod) Those weaknesses are in my decision mainly due to strange choices like keeping corruption mechanics and making torpedos penetrate sheilds. I hope that AOTR keeps developing so that it can become more polished and better balanced. Also it's incredibly valuable for the lessons it teaches other mods. Thrawns revenge didn't even have an upkeep mechanic until AOTR introduced it. And I REALLY like the whole moff palace mechanic of AOTR where clusters are made more important almost like continents in risk. And the decision to make air units permanently visible on the mini map is really really good. I also really like the heros in AOTR. They all feel substantial and unique. Being able to have Leia with her commandoes or have dodanna build a wings or have iblis with a fleet of dreadnaughts is all REALLY good decisions. I do prefer permadeath, but AOTR pulls of respawns in a well thought out manner. But I don't think AOTR is objectively the most polished. It has some flaws it still needs working out.

​@@ethanrice1102 1a. 100% Disagree on literally every level, I like the upkeep mechanic as it prevents a problem that occurs in most mods where you just spam the same production all over the place, it forces the player to be smarter about what, where and how they build instead of doing base game garbage of building the same set on every world that can fit. 1b. The AI's cheats have long since been toned down (at least they were in my recent playthroughs) 1c. Not even close to true at all, i've literally only survived by engaging in stalwart defenses of key planets and taking down as much doomfleets as possible before launching my attacks, just selling ground structures and surrendering all of the time with no defense is a road to defeat, I should know because I used to do that. 1d. Don't really agree that the trade ships are a problem tbh, and I think i'm noticing a trend here. 2. Can't even remotely understand nor sympathize with this one, not even a little bit, not sure if we're even playing the same mod tbh. 3. This I agree with pretty much wholeheartedly, I DESPISE the corruption garbage especially when they skip space stations. 4a. Nah, don't agree, while raids aren't my cup of tea, when I've done them, I have been able to target important infrastructure. 4b. Definitely don't agree with the mission complaint, that's probably my second favorite aspect of the game. 4c. Don't agree, i hate disney's ST too, but the stuff they're including isn't the parts that I dislike, also having only one path actually mean something really bogged down older versions of this mod, so I personally prefer the "boring circle" since it means more avenues of attack/defense and less of the same strategies over and over. TR stuff. 1. I like AotR's economy better, TR makes UNITS cost upkeep which I dislike heavily, rather it be buildings instead, "realism" should *_NEVER_* *_EVER_* make a video game worse in any way. (and by the way I love TR, but the economy needs some tweaks) 2a. Space combat is good, but its just inferior to Aotr's (and I especially 100% vehemently disagree that it was rock paper scissors, play base game again and see what that actually looks like) But I do like TR's idea of NOT having Missiles penetrate shields, so i'll ground you that one. 2b. I don't want the game to do too much work for me, so the less automation the better. 2c. I like AotR's space station system a bit better, though with recent updates TR's is getting pretty good. 3. this is the BEST aspect of TR, is the number of factions and how they fight eachother, sick of RTS games only caring about one on one nonsense, hopefully AotR gives their minor factions more unique stuff in newer updates. 4. too much "quality of life" changes ruin RTS games for me. its the differnece between having polished polish and an actual product. I think its pretty clear and (not to sound rude) that the pattern I noticed is you really need practice in AOTR + might need to get out of that modern RTS mindset of QoL over gameplay. So, I disagree on almost everything, I think AotR is probably the most complete product of all the mods, with TR/FotR being a close second

@@KaiserMattTygore927 I like most of your points thst you made. It does highlight the two different approaches to this game and what people like. Keep in mind my original comment was made before the most recent update. Although im not sure why you criticise quality of life changes so much. Yeah, you need a good foundation of game play first and foremost, but "quality of life" or as i like to call it, "making sure your game lets players play the game" is still very necessary. Again, many decisions Aotr makes i like a lot, but i think need modifying. In fact in their most recent update they gave the option to not play against the black sun, and im pretty sure they removed trade ships entirely. They also made a huge improvement to the ground bases where you are now allowed to have both outposts and the economic version at the same time. Meaning its much less punishing to have even a basic defense on your planet. With the current version the only thing I would outright change is the missile penetration. Other things thst still need tweaked are things like the single powerful space station thst the AI hides in. But I suspect thst may be cleaned up in their space rework scheduled for next update They included the U wing which I like and they don't seem to be adding any Disney Rebels heros or vehicles which is promising. So overall AOTR has actually been moving in a direction addressing most of my complaints in the original comment. Their space rework is also taking a huge note from Thrawns revenge and making each turret have a limited firing arc which should fix the problem of formations not mattering.

Can you answer me on something. I like to take my group troopers seperate. I dont know how to do it? Can you help me :D

@@frejafernando As far as I know, you can't separate storm trooper groups.

Yeah, he might have to come back and rethink the “RE has the most innovative space combat” statement whenever Space Rework comes out, eh boss? ;)

We have taken some inspiration from remake, since we agree, its currently the best. We will have to see if we can come close ;)

MaxiM - but now we have our own framework, and it will be amazing

My relationship with eaw (modded) is on-off - its your AotR (updates) that always get me addicted again ^^ love it, keep doing a great job

When iam on the map, randomly game crash, there is only music i cant do nothing, any advise ?

Fall of the republic would be about as terrible as thrawns revenge for new players.... it would frustrate new players beyond measure because you’re not just facing 1 or 2 other factions you’re facing 4-5 other factions, those two mods would moreover drive new players away from mods entirely rather than be good to start them off

Oh you’re absolutely right! I completely agree that Fall is the Republic could be confusing.

@@SenkingFar yeah, I remember before I knew what to do I downloaded theawns revenge because alot of people liked it.... The ai slaughtered me😂😂😂

Remake is also annoying because its quite a bit of a mess right now. I also think the forced Reaper invasion from Mass Effect is a really stupid addition. It would be fine as an optional addition, but its not.

FranticPotatoes yay your a halo fan

the what??

@@spartnmarcen5110 u

Tell me more!

​@@spartnmarcen5110 It is a mod that is near completion (As of now) and will be released in 2021. It is a halo mod and you can find the page on the steam workshop. Might have to scroll back a bit though.

Go mod. The base game I Shows its age pretty hard and has some severe design flaws, like the tiny number of hard points some of the more expensive ships have. Try the first one he mentions to start. It just expands the content and looks and sounds incredible.

The one thing that turned me off is the invasion mechanics, that was just shoehorned

Steam version received updates by Petroglyph that let the larger mods work properly (since saves were corrupting). This certainly isn't the fault of Corey or the team.. And to make a version that works with disk, they would have to strip out like 80% of the features.. so, would you really even want it then?? Steam is the Penultimate version of the game, and it's frequently on sale for $10.00. So, if your beef is that you have to spend 10$ to buy the game (the framework) in order to play a mod developed for over a decade, and available COMPLETELY FREE of charge.. then you'll simply miss out on what these awesome, larger version(s) of these mods have to offer.

He should do a new republic campaign as boarding will be back

I feel like he won’t enjoy TR. The style is more linear not as dynamic as shack enjoys. I noticed he has a lot more fun in AOTR and FOTR than his TR campaigns

Isaac Destura the mod has changed massively since his last campaign over 3 years ago especially since it was a demo version which then changed a lot when that update released fully, so you can’t really compare the last campaign to a new one and 3.0 is going to be a massive update

@@templarnot4 I think between AOTR and TR, he'd probably still go with AOTR. That said, watching him do a small campaign in TR could be cool.

@@isaacdestura7495 i think if he enjoys FotR, then he can probably enjoy TR as well

Best mod out there. Complex, difficult, with a very challenging AI. Pm me if you have questions about it, I have over 500 hours of awakening of the rebellion to my name

@@razvanionescu1376 which mod is the best original trilogy mod

@@clapdozecheeks9157 The mod in question here is, Awakening of the Rebellion. You have all of the original trilogy characters, and it is the only mod that gives you a realistic feeling, well, as far as realistic feelings go for computer games.

@@razvanionescu1376 Ive played aotr and its the most realistic out of all of the mods imo

@@clapdozecheeks9157 happy to hear it, and that you gave it a shot. It really is a jewel.

Tyler Samtak yes I’d like to know this too

Just select a unit/hover over a unit and press "C". That's it. OR, go into options, and select "Both mouse buttons move camera", which can also be done by middle mouth button click+drag. Double click middle mouse button, or hit "End" on your keyboard to restore the camera to default.

Is it fun? Sorry for being late 😅