@@btafbm okay so who deserves a spot over him them. Also PG being top 75 is not a bold claim, if you think so you’re probably new to basketball and hate on PG because it’s “cool” to
One guy I was surprised didn't make the list is Joe Dumars. Dude has a finals MVP, 2 championships, 6 all star selections. All NBA and All Defensive teams. Very underrated
Nah he’s top 100 but he didn’t have a long peak he had most success from being apart of a big 4 and never was a true leader it would be like putting tony Parker there as well IMO only the best of the best 2nd fiddles and third wheels could make it
Tony Parker should definitely be on this list, very long prime that attributed to a ton of winning, on top of the fact that he was a top 3 PG for a good amount of time. Just off his resume alone he should be up there ahead a lot of these guys.
Man. I would argue that for like a season or two, between Nash's and CP3's reign, Parker was the best point guard in the league. He's also 11th in playoff points scored. Everyone else in that top20 made the list.
Then u didn’t listen to what low was saying u don’t wanna put him bc he hated in the league but his career is hof worthy almost like him klay curry literally changed the game no teams was doing what they was doing
Dikembe Mutombo was another wild one that I don't understand. Four-time Defensive Player of the Year, eight-time All-Star, three-time All-NBA, 3 time blocks leader, 2nd in blocks all time. Shits crazy
I think putting PG and Green in this list and siting Defense as the main reason, and not even considering Joe Dumars is crazy. Michael Jordan himself said Joe Dumars was the toughest person to guard him. Dumars is criminally underrated to this day IMO
Paul George isn’t strictly defense how Draymond Green is Paul George although may not be as good as a defender as green and dumars he’s way better offensively than both
I don't think Draymond Green should be on the list. You can say he's play the small 5 lineup. But his weakness, not able to create his own shot, I think that might have hurt him to get in.
@@emmanuelpeters6263 But scoring has an impact in the game. Draymond is still a solid defender but he isn't that defensive anchor like he was on the Warrior Finals runs.
Solid adjustments. Kinda wish that Vince Carter was on the list since impact does playing a factor. Especially when you take into perspective in his role elevating posterizing dunks and not to mention in his prime was a decent shooter. The only downside for Vince was his lack of postseason success. Lets not forget that some of these top 75 players didn't win a championship without joining a legend like AD and LeBron, Ben Wallace and Chauncey, or Pierce with KG and Ray Allen. But that's me being biased.
No no, you're right. I feel like if you can seriously look at every great NBA player ever and put Dame on the list and leave off Dwight and Vince Carter then there's something wrong goin on here. Not shitting on Dame, cause I love Dame but come on
Vince came into the league with the most polished game probably in league history as a rookie. There was nothing on the offensive end that he couldn't do well when he started. A title is the only thing that stopped him from making it.
T-Mac fell off HARD after 08. His peak was amazing, specifically those Orlando days, but his fall was tragic. I understand what you mean but all things considered, Dame has had a better career.
I think Jokic should have made the list because of his all nba team selections and his MVP. His last season and this season are statistically better than almosy everyone's on the whole list.
you slow or sum AD is a better player then dame n it’s no where close ad plays defense n has the most complete bag for a big man in nba history n im not a ad fan but i respect his talent n resume. dame a good offensive player but this year his struggling to stay relevant n has always been a highlight player, his play style is based of player success not team success
@@vonnnnnntripinnn AD being the better player I can accept, but Dame has the same impact as him if not very similar. Dame is 10xs better on offense and his team all around is worse, but preceded to win more and stay healthy. AD is the more well rounded player, but never completed a full healthy season and is now finally winning. In big moments, Dame Has proven to be that guy while AD, while hasn’t had many opportunities to show it, still hasn’t proved to have the clutch on the playoffs. As of right now, AD is slightly better but still shouldn’t be on the top 75 list.
I'd been preaching for Ben Wallace. That man was a monster. I watched that man terrorize the league on the defensive end, and no one talks about it. I'm so glad you said it
Kobe and harden eras tainted his image so much. Ironically, it’s because he wasn’t playing like the top center in the league like was in Orlando. He was insane in Orlando
Because it would diminished the Kobe carried those Lakers by hisself. Just like Jordan ,people got to make a mystique of Kobe won those championships by hisself
I just googled Tracy careers stats compared to dame because I think dame career,personally i think he having a better career.dame hasn’t been ruined by injuries and he hasn’t had much help in a such a stacked conference
@@jacobwilson7301 your right, I do feel it’s early for dame but I feel like he says it in a manner in which Tracy is league and bounds from dame which in my opinion there both high volume scoring machines
I don't think Draymond or Klay should be here above Tony Parker. Not only do they have less accolades, they don't have the legonvity of a Tony Parker (top 10 in playoffs points and assists)
Like and agree with most of the additions you made. Chris Bosh doesn’t get his flowers like he should and I hope that changes. He was forced to retire before we got to see him revert back to a #1 option role without LBJ and really ball out. That Draymond take take though I’m not rolling with 😂. Respect ✊🏿
The fact that Chris Bosh had to tailor his game to LeBrons playstyle lets you know the kind of player Bosh was in Miami. The numbers don’t show it but he was a big part in that team’s success
Agree with the Draymond take. One of the more influential players when it comes to impacting a winning team and evolving the game on the defensive end. He somewhat defined the small ball era which is a big part of modern basketball.
Dude would be working at a snack shack if he wasn't put into a perfect system in golden state where he fit in perfectly. Has absolutely and I quite literally mean absolutely nothing to offer on the offensive end. Would only get assists cause the great players surrounding him
@@justincrawley4256 just say you’re a casual and move on, he literally runs the offense. Averaged 6 or 7 assists literally the season curry and klay were out and was playing with high school lunch league players
@@bruhman980 idk man... a player only getting 7 assists when all he does is pass cause legit no one takes him seriously on the offensive end isn't impressive to me at all. You guys do have the defensive argument down. He is a good defender I will give him that (when he isn't using his hands and not getting called for fouls) but yeah definitely nowhere near a top 75 player of all time
@@bruhman980 if we are going to put him on the list might as well put people like Robert Horry on that list for winning and having seven rings.... people need to stop with this
With Pete and Tiny it all depends on who you're replacing them with (i.e. Dennis Johnson FMVP over tiny yes). A lot of players that pass the eye test but don't have the accolades or playoff success are usually the lone star on their team during their prime years. Too many people compare those players with another star who is surrounded by either other stars or players who can even crack a top 100 list
LOW man, I feel that if you’re gonna include Chris Bosh in this top 75 here, you’ve been very consistent in making sure that the all-time “Big 3’s” of the NBA, but one that isn’t getting nearly their just due is completing the big 3 Spurs trio in Tim Duncan(already in) Tony Parker, and Manu Ginobili. They were so good for so long together, winningest trio in NBA history I’m pretty sure, they won 4 championships together, each having their fair share of all-star appearances, all-nba selections in a system that emphasized selflessness and winning above all. I completely agree with completing the golden state trio, they are all top 75 players of all time, not even a debate. I have a problem including Bosh in there before either Tony Parker or Manu though personally, put them ahead of Dame, PG, Melo, as well. They won too much for too long together. Oh and yeah Dumars got snubbed too for sure.
Depends on how you define 'winningest.' Probably in the regular season, maybe in the post-season as a whole. With the last Finals, though, the Dubs big 3 now have the most Finals wins of any trio in history.
@@MrBrachiatingApe good point, I just defined by the most traditional regular-season win metric, that’s what they’re known for. And hey, it’s gonna take a long time for someone to win as much in the playoffs as that Warriors trio. It could’ve been even more far apart if not for injuries/suspensions etc.
@@vidalrodriguez2001 not that much to do with your comment but centers id take over bosh are Artis Gilmore and Alonzo mourning. Mourning is a 2 time dpoy and I don’t see an argument for having bosh over zo. Zo’s Heat never did anything in the playoffs besides a conference finals but he was 2nd in mvp in 1999 and as I said earlier a 2x dpoy. Way better than bosh.
Kevin Johnson is grossly underrated and should be in the top 75. The year Suns decided to start him as PG, he turned the Suns franchise around to a 55+ win team and kept it that way through most of his career. And this started well before Barkley joined the team. His numbers are almost identical to Chris Paul. And how many 6'1 PG has a career 49.3% fg percentage? How many 6'1 PG has ever posterized someone like Hakeem, who happens to be the greatest shot blocker in NBA history.
Taking of Pete but keeping guys who essentially relatively based on what u said bout Pete not being revolutionary enough but the players decided to keep was the byproduct of of what the era subjected onto what he dominant let alone being the pioneered that spark upon a glimpse of what he see today into fruition
i was so happy when you listed PG. Like I get he's a meme now and ppl like to hate but no doubt he's one of the most talented ever with an underrated resume
Taking draymond over klay on a team is the wildest take I’ve heard from you ever. Mans can score 37 in a quarter but draymond can make it for defensive versatility and playmaking/passing. I think your emphasizing defense wayy too much when it comes to including draymond. Is defense important? Absolutely but let’s not get carried away with one point even though he has clear flaws on the offensive end. He sets picks, sometimes shoots, and passes the ball. The first “position less” player was Magic Johnson he was the innovator of that, not draymond. The only argument to consider is how he innovated passing as a big man which is a fair point to make but to me doesn’t cut it, this is probably biased but one could argue that a guy like Boris Diaw deserves some credit as a passing big man on inconsistent minutes. Again that whole last point could be biased because I watched him play for most of his career but things just don’t add up to why draymond should be in the top 75 for me.
He didn’t innovate passing as a bigman. Many big before him were elite passers. Specifically bill Walton, Chris Webber, KG, Tim Duncan, vlade divac, Boris diaw, Lamar Odom, both the gasol bros, Joakim noah, and Ardvidas Sabonis.
How much impact can you have when you average a triple single for your career? He gets props for D? Anybody who has watched the game longer than 15 years knows that defense is nonexistent. All major American sports have gotten rid of rules or created new ones to boost Offense, and make it impossible to play Defense. People who would put Dre, Dwight, Bosh, Dame, or PG, and not have Pistol Pete, Tiny Arch, Dantley, Dumars, Moncrief show they have no knowledge of the History of the NBA and the Players. Dreymond shouldn't even be Top 100
W list! def some honorable mentions like vc, pau, tony parker, ginobili, kyrie, etc.. but if we are basing it of winning, impact, and consistency those def make sense.. i love the draymond addition! like a few of the people you mentioned i feel like he doesn’t get a lot of recognition/respect for what he does and how he’s impacted the game.. not to mention his iq and just overall knowledge of the game.. but all in all great vid! def was looking forward to see who you added/removed! keep it up! 🐐🔥
@@nicyee3701 i agree, but that’s HIS list and it’s respectable.. imo i’d have tony parker and ginobili in there, but it’s not my list.. all i said was “it makes sense” bc they do deserve to be there
The disrespect to kyrie Irving is ridiculous, he was special ever since his rookie year. If it wasn’t for injuries he would have many rings teaming up with bron and kd. Draymond doesn’t deserve it over kyrie
Would’ve means nothing. U don’t become one of the greats by would’ve. And why doesn’t draymond deserve it over kyrie when he’s had a better career. Stop thinking you liking a players game means that u get to surpass production. Draymond is the more valuable player with more accomplishments as a teammate and as an individual. Besides the one ring and all star selections, kyrie hasn’t done much of anything as an individual. No mvp caliber seasons, hasn’t led a team to anything as the first option, never led the league in any major stat. No defensive impact whatsoever. His numbers are good and he’s a great talent. But that’s about it. U need to be more than talented to be one of the greatest of all time not to mention he rarely stays on the court long enough to even have that type of production. He’s always hurt or sitting out for something.
Kyrie was nothing without lebron in the Eastern conference was a lottery team every year before lebron came back . D Rose did more than Kyrie . Dame plays in the West. You guys should know your guards Kevin Johnson ,Mahmoud Abdul Rauf, Gilbert Arenas,Marbury,Brandon Roy,and Kenny Anderson sre better. I didn't mention other guards. But stop with this narrative that Kyrie is an better than most Guards
@@fumbleman5882 it’s clear drose injury was much more significant in terms of the effect it had on his career than kyries injuries did. So that’s out the window
Low: requires a 7+ year prime to make list and claims damian lillard doesnt have the longevity required. Dame: last 8 years not including this one is 25 ppg 6 x all star 6 x all nba , while also being snubbed once or twice of an all star selection. I think people forget how long dame has been doing this and at how consistently a level.
It’s not that Dame doesn’t deserve it but he doesn’t deserve it over names like Dwight, Klay, Draymond, etc;. Those guys have had postseason success, meanwhile Dame has 0 finals appearances, 1 bubble mvp thing, and lead blowings to an injured Pelicans in 2018 and Warriors in 2019
Yeah like how did Dame make it what has he done besides be a superstar player that loses in the 2nd round at most every year like there was more deserving players
I was surprised Kyrie, Klay and Dwight all got left off, Kyrie one of the most gifted point guards of all time, klay literally the second or third best shooter of all time and Dwight was a monster. I like how he added draymond tho cause he really did change the small ball lineup in the NBA. I mean teams have done it before but Draymond was so good at being able to guard bigs using his intelligence and being able to impact the offense with his playmaking and helped spaced the floor
@@reedfreida1215 the problem is there are way more impactful guys pre 2k. History of the game should be required to vote for this. A 50 question general NBA knowledge to qualify. Knowledge about the rule changes, and how it's almost a felony to play defense recently. I have a crazy suspicion that most All-Star players from the 70's-90's, would all have a bump in their PPG, FG%, and AST simply from the lack of tough physical D. That's just my take as NBA fiend since Tape Delays and the San Diego Clippers.#ThisGamesInTheRefridgeraror
@@nazztynatenugglife5891 draymond at his peak is easily a top 75 peak lol, impact wise comfortably into the top 50. You really think that non shooters from older eras would be MORE efficient in todays league relative to league average TS? I highly doubt that. PPG and APG vary based on era, just compare using per 100 or 75 stats.
@@reedfreida1215 non shooters, players shoot a better % while getting assaulted every game. No more hand check, no forearm shiver, no 5-sec count so ISO ball can be played. If someone sneezes on you now, you it 2 FT, they didn't have Flagrants 1 or 2. RU-vid McHale clotheslines Rambis, that was only 2 FT, no Flagrant, No ejection or Suspension. It was shut your mouth and shoot your 2. A lot of today's players are paper mache compared to old schoolers. Coupled with much softer Defenses, they would have an easier time on Offense. Also new players against old school defense, would have a tougher time because of the increased physicality and defense.
The Ones That I Removed 1. Billy Cunningham 2. Bill Sharman 3. Robert Parish 4. Dave DeBusschere 5. Nate Archibald 6. Jerry Lucas 7. Dave Bing 8. Nate Thurmond 9. Paul Arizin 10. Lenny Wilkens Added Players 1. Dwight Howard 2. Klay Thompson 3. Vince Carter 4. Alex English 5. Alonzo Mourning 6. Ben Wallace 7. Chauncey Billups 8. Tracy McGrady 9. Tony Parker 10. Nikola Jokic
I disagree with having Chris Bosh on here, and quite frankly if he never was on the Heat he would have 0 Top 75 chances. He made 1 All-NBA third team his entire career, that speaks a lot.
This is as embarrassing as Harold Baines in MLBHOF. Are all who voted born after 1995? Not enough research or knowledge about older players. Kareem said on B.Scott's podcast, " I saw Wilt, Oscar, and Russell play. A lot of people never saw Magic/Bird and only saw an older Jordan. No, Adrian Dantley, or Pistol Pete, and then I see BOSH! Well, "The Mustard came off the hotdog". R.I.P Chick Hearns
@@Rieky22 both of them should be off the list. Most people responding here have little to no idea about the NBA pre Jordan. Pistol Pete and Adrian Dantley should have been on the list instead of Dre and Bosh
@@Rieky22 look at his stats. 24.3ppg 5.7reb 3.0ast 54%Fg 81.8%ft 1.0stl. 6 time All-Star. Lead the League in PPG twice. He scored over 30ppg in 6 seasons with a ROY. Dremond can't touch that
It’s a shame you did not mention Sidney Moncrief. Other than Dwight Howard, Dennis Johnson and Klay Thompson, I would argue Moncrief is the biggest snub. The only guard in NBA history to win multiple DPOY. Dragged the Milwaukee Bucks to conference finals appearances in the mid 80s against teams like Dr. J’s Sixers, Zeke’s Pistons and Bird’s Celtics. He’s got a great peak, lots of playoff success where he fell to some of the greatest teams ever (83 Sixers, 86 Celtics, etc.) and his defense is revered. How on earth is he not on the NBA 75?!
Pistol Pete is 100% a top 75 player in NBA history lol. Injuries cut his years and he’s an innovator of the game. Ain’t no way Pistol Pete comes off that list lol. But yeah there was a lot of older players that shouldn’t have been on.
I feel like they chose to put all 50 from the 96 list on the 75 last minute which is why they had all the controversial ones on the third day. Also would explain them not having to chose them on the ballot.
I will personally put Chauncey bowl ups and switch him with Anthony Davis he has a ring online with a finals MVP lead his team to the finals twice and underrated shooter I think he impacted the game by that obviously he wasn’t leading the league but he was certainly at it and a underrated playoff performer and defender. And that ring that he has is really underrated he’s one of the only players in NBA history to beat the duel between shack and Kobe when they were both all NBA. The only one is Timmy who was in his peek prime and it still could’ve went lakers as Kobe was balling. When Chauncey beat them it was in five in a very dominant manner talking about upset he might be the most iconic. If you think a D is still better than him due to his talent than fine but as of career it’s definitely Chauncey for me. That’s really yet I like your list although there are certain players I honestly don’t know I’m 26 I don’t research everybody lol
Can't necessarily say Klay, or Dreymond should make this list. Definitely don't see Bosh being on here as well. Everything said about the players were true, but it's the same way for many players who didn't even make the list.
I disagree with your klay take. I feel what he has meant to the warriors dynasty and helping to revolutionize the game of basketball can not be understand. You don’t win 73 games with just 1 top 75 player
Pistol Pete deserves to be on the list. You have a good point about how his style of play didn’t translate to winning championships but as an individual player he was one of the most skilled ever. Rest In Peace 🙏
Klay is one of if not the best 3&D players ever and Draymond is a top 10 defensive player of ALL TIME they're easily top 75. You don't revolutionize basketball without the trio of them with Curry
Like facts even tho I’m a warriors fan I agree them being a trio literally changed the game like I can understand bc the player draymond is they think he shouldn’t be on the list but I think he could at least be the last name on the list
@@brandonlee9798 yeah like he is hated by people so they don’t wanna give him credit for how good he is bc they think bc he not a scorer he not good but has been a huge part of the team and the rings they got
Low lemme me ask you this, why T-Mac over Maravich when you said they both had bad postseason success and had short primes, just want to hear your opinion
Not rlly, what did Rodman do that draymond didn't c'mon man. Kyrie hit a shot 😂. VC is great but he didnt have postseason success. Tony Parker is the only one that stands a question 😤.
@@ethanjacobson3121 more chips, more dpoy, more rebounding championships, more defensive first team selections (not saying he’s significantly better but u asked)
I don’t agree that Klay makes it over Dame. I agree that Dame might not be top 75 worthy but if Dame isn’t then I don’t think there’s much of an argument for Klay I just don’t see it
Except klay play next to arguably the greatest shooter in nba history and still can knock just as good if not better oppose to Dame literally being the offense getting to hoist and do whatever
They kept the top 50 you shouldn't have changed the whole 75 just the 25+1 that they added. They kept the original top 50 for a reason (to keep history in tact) some of these names will be forgotten over time, but the anniversary will keep their names alive.
Honesty surprised you didn't mention that AD was on this list, I would have thrown him in with dame reasoning tbh. Too early in his career. Also Green deserve to be on this list people don't watch basketball or have bias.
@@TBRiddles Dame has both the better numbers and more postseason success before AD went to the Lakers. AD had multiple seasons missing the playoffs while Dame was there every year
@@TBRiddles It does matter when your peaks are borderline the same. AD and Dame have averaged the same amount of points since coming into the league obviously with Dame having more assists and AD having more rebounds. This is why you have to default to postseason success and as I said yeah AD has a ring but he missed the playoffs like 3 times if I’m not mistaken while Dame has gone every year of his career. It’s not like Dame has had much better teammates either since we can argue Jrue Holiday is as good as CJ
I can imagine everyone locked in a room doing their top 75 NBA players of all time and Shaqs just ready to whoop somebody if he sees Dwight on that list🤣
You need to debate that A.M. Hoops dude about T-Mac, mans literally had him and Andrew Wiggins in the same category haha. Also I like your list, don't agree with it though.
The issue with calling the list a “Top …” is that we can’t differentiate between “best” and “greatest”. I would have to assume they meant “greatest” due to the names on here. If they were going by “best”, there would be many more current players due to the nature of athletes getting better every year
@Trade Bum Simmons LOW stated in the video that they weren’t limited to keeping those 50 on the list, they had free reign to add and remove anyone they saw fit. I think their personal feelings on removing someone made them not do it, but that’s a different subject.
@@Armenian_King how many players have you heard say they want to be the best? It’s a goal for nearly every player especially the greats. Of course it matters.
Can anyone explain to me why Vince Carter isn't even considered? The man is the only player in NBA history to play in four different decades and is universally regarded as the greatest dunker ever.
The disrespect is sickening. The same reasons he gave for why tmac should be in over dame is the same reason vinsanity should be on the list. Vince was probably the most popular player in the league for a few years. He literally has the most clutch/buzzer beaters of all time, if not very close. Greatest dunker all time period. Doesn’t make sense. Damn sure can’t have Chris bosh over Vince.
Jimmy butler? 5 time all star, 4 time all nba, 5 time all defensive team, great two way player, Leads every team he’s on he should be somewhere on this list in my Opinion
I’m genuinely confused on how people are saying Dame shouldn’t make the list but are putting Klay. They played in the league and dame has been consistently better their entire careers. If the criteria is longevity of they’re primes, klay also wouldn’t make it because he has five elite years before his injuries. You could argue he played a role on an all time team but then we have to start including players like ginobli over other all time greats just off of championship pedigree rather than what they brought to the league.
@NKC That’s fair but at the same time, it’s clear that Dame is more talented than players like Draymond and Klay. I’d get it if Dame wasn’t contributing to winning but he has yet to miss the playoffs in his prime despite playing with somewhat subpar rosters. I’m not even a Dame fan but we’re taking about a 25 ppg scorer over 6 seasons and counting. Like how much are we valuing being a third/fourth option on a championship team vs being a MVP caliber player on a consistent playoff team?
@@Armenian_King How do you determine how much Klay is impacting winning when he played with two top 20 players ever in their prime in Steph Curry and Kevin Durant? Dame has yet to play with another all star let alone two MVPs simultaneously lol
@NKC Yeah that’s 100% true. I mean more towards “GREATEST” when comparing players on a similar tier (i.e Giannis > Barkley) but I find it weird to apply that when comparing a MVP level player in Dame to a player that’s borderline all-nba like Draymond
Impact is the only thing keeping pistol on that list. What has dame done that is significantly Better than a defensive player of the year and 3 time champion? Be an all star? He’s a BETTER player for sure? But greater is debatable.
I personally think Tony Parker should’ve made the list I don’t know who you were going to replace but I feel like there’s definitely a guy I honestly think there’s a conversation for him to replace Gary Payton I understand he’s a better talent but honestly only because of the fence we both agree that Tony Parker is a Bears score play making they’re in the same tier if not 20 parkers are you’ll be better it’s really just a defensive end. And you’re not gonna tell me Gary Payton had a better career.
@@wrestlejones5531what wow Garry Peyton has 9 defensive 1st team selections and 18 total all NBA selections and he won a defensive player of the year award hes also the best defensive PG ever and had multple seasosn with much better numbers than parker ever
With that being said I 100 percent agree with the Tracy McGrady take. Best pure scorer in the history of the game. Kobe said it best when he said he was the hardest to guard. Dude put up 60 like it was 30.
