Where Steph Curry stands with LeBron, Michael Jordan in Top 10 - Skip & Shannon | NBA | UNDISPUTED 

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Shannon’s face when Skip said he had Shaq at 3rd 😭

Once I saw Shannon’s top ten on the screen I just start spamming the fast forward button to see where skip was gonna have lebron on his list 😂😂😂 I mean I knew it was gonna be low but 9???? He must be trolling us at this point 😂😂😂😂

Shaq last to 3peat, his average in the NBA finals during the 3peat: 38.0, 33.0 and then his third 36.3. Shaq in his day absolutely unstoppable, commands a doubleteam every posession, and a lot of opposite defenders are in foul trouble. Shaq killed Tim Duncan on multiple occasions, and Duncan is a top6 player in my books. Curry is top ten player, but Shaq is not the guy you bump out.

anytime skip talks about steph they should just cut his mic

I think Steph staying on the same team his whole career is under appreciated

Shaq at 3? LeBron at 9?….Skips list makes me have a near heart attack every time he reads it.

Unc too funny “Now run tell that, you see that list, look list right there” 😂.. He makes tha show better frfr, whether it’s a serious segment/topic or a comical one, Unc always got that edge.

Shannon’s list most resembles mine and makes most sense to me. Skip with having LeBron in 9th is OUTRAGEOUS! This man is on his way to having the most points ever in NBA history and he’s got him 9 and Shaq 3rd? Skip, stop this!

Bruh Shannon’s face at 3:26 killed me 😂😂😂

Shaq’s longevity is underrated, he averaged 20+ for 14 straight years and was an all star caliber player for a few more

3:13 skips usage of “all-time” along with Shannon’s face is all-time comedy

I agree with both of them. Shaq is fosho higher than 10 just not quite 3 and like Shannon said, Lebron is 3 at worst. Its always interesting to see where people put Wilt and Russell. Plus personally, if Curry wins another championship he goes from 11 to 7 on my list. If he wins two more it really starts to get interesting. And I think he’ll play another 6-8 years and the Warriors have a smart front office, definitely possible.

So Skip lists off Shaq accolades to make a point of why he's all time over Steph but what would he say if you did the same thing with LeBron? Having him 9th with all he's accomplished, accolades, and records with Shaq as your 3rd all time is the most blatant form of hating and contradiction I've seen.

The thing about these lists is that everyone has different metrics. One of the biggest bring individual success vs Team Success. How great were you vs how often did you win. Wilt and Russell capture that to the extreme.

Curry is amongst top 10 who changed nba rules and style Along with wilt and the goaltending Shaq and the 3second rules Jordan and bad(boy) flagrant fouls Lebron and the zone defense Now chef curry pull up from halfcourt with the small ball era so the nba gonna need a 4points line and count fullcourt shots for 5points Final score 230 - 88

Can we keep it real here? As a Lakers fan during the Kobe-Shaq run, and as someone who had to sit through the loss in 2004, I am 100% with Shannon about Shaq. Was Shaq all-time TALENTED? Of course! We haven't seen anybody like him since Wilt, and they dominated in different ways. But let's not forget, Shaq was a massive liability at the free throw line. They even named a strategy after him, "hack-a-Shaq". You COULD NOT HAVE HIM ON THE FLOOR IN THE 4TH QUARTER OF CLOSE GAMES IF YOU WANTED TO WIN. Come on, do we say that about Curry? We can argue defense all day but it's clear (to me at least) that Steph has become a credible enough defender so that teams can't blatantly exploit him on that end of the floor like they exploited Shaq's weakness. Steph is still a bad individual defender but you have to worry about him in the passing lanes and he picks people's pocket on a regular basis (highest steals average per game in the 2022 Finals). On top of that, Shannon's absolutely right. Shaq's ability fell off a cliff after he left the Lakers. Shaq did NOT have Kobe's work ethic and was famously quoted saying stupid (for a pro athlete) things like "I got hurt on company time, I'll get better on company time." OK, maybe if you want to be mediocre this makes sense, but if you want to be AMONG THE BEST IN THE WORLD this isn't quite a killer mentality. And yeah, we can argue they should have given the regular season MVP to Shaq instead of Steve Nash, but we also argue that Steph should have gotten the Finals MVP the year Iggy won it. Overall, I think Steph has had a bigger impact on the game, was the first unanimous regular season MVP, and has shown he can win without a top tier superstar next to him. Shaq never won anything without Kobe or D Wade, both all-time great shooting guards. And Steph did this not ONCE, but TWICE without KD. So let's not pretend it's all about Shaq being bad or anything like that. No, Shaq is an all-time great player. But like Shannon said, it gets ticky-tacky as time goes on for a top 10 because there are always going to be new great players in the game, and therefore it gets more and more crowded on these all-time lists when it comes to making a case for different players. But I think Curry over Shaq isn't that hard. Yes, they couldn't stop Shaq in his era, but can anybody stop Curry in this one? In Game 6 of the Finals, wasn't Steph stepping on the logo draining 3's to close out the series? To my eyes, the only one that stops Steph on any given night is Steph (because he's cold shooting). And oh right, to stop Shaq all we have to do is foul him.

I love Shaq but putting him top 3 greatest of all time is absolutely crazy Edit: Being the best in your prime or having a unstoppable dominance in your prime doesn't make you great. It's like Skip when he tries make his case for Baker with that 11 game stretch, QBR 91 scale 0-100, 4th highest rated QB spiel. You have to take TOTAL BODY OF WORK not just their greatest hits/career highlights hence why Shaq can never be a top 3 greatest all time. He's not even a top 3 center all time (Kareem, Wilt, Bill)

Shannon: "You a hater." Lmaoooo the way he just stops trying to reason with Skip has me rolling.

All time greats for both lists and at the end of the day two of the GREATEST at the desk that are truly UNDISPUTED, big love skip and Shannon 👑

Looking back I find it kinda ironic how the best 1-2 combo are really maybe the only 2 you have to choose from to take out of the top 10.

Skip casually says Steph “underperformed in games 3, 4, 5, 6” when he played a 47 8 7 gem of a game 3 and a great game 5 where he forced a game 6

Instead of attacking who is and isn't top 10, we need to increase the value and emphasize the importance of the top 15 or 20, the difference between 4-15 is often where the debate lies because the passage of time will add more and more great players of comparable success and talent. Everyone top 10 order is different but 90% of everyone's top 15 have the same players which is actually where the value lies.

This one of them segments we’ll be seeing in our recommendations for years to come

Every all-time great has always had other great players with them. To win rings you have to have some serious talent on the roster. Jordan had Rodman/Pippen, Lebron had Wade/Kyrie/Davis, Shaq had Kobe, Kobe had Shaq/Gasol, Curry had Klay/Green/KD. Everyone has talent with them, but the only difference now is that players have way more of a say in team building. The problem is the ever-shifting criteria. If its rings, its Russell not Jordan.

Skip is just a funny dude. You can’t help but to laugh when you hear him talk.

there’s a lot of bias on who they’d have in there top 10, but shannon gave a clear and real explanation as to why his list is the way it is, i respect his decisions in putting players in the spots he did even if i don’t 100% agree with them

One of the greatest segments ever😭😭

Give Kobe some damn respect

I disagree a lot with both of their lists. As for Shannon, I didn’t rl hear an argument as to why he had Steph over shaq, he jus said shaq underachieved. And skip having Bron at 9…

Kobe at 9 is crazy, no bias

Skip must be paid to troll, he is outrageous

Really hard for me to compare Steph to Hakeem/Shaq, just totally different positions and players

This is one of the only sports talk shows I still watch. Love these two.

My Picks.. 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 4. Wilt Chamberlain 5. Bill Russell 6. Magic Johnson 7. Larry Bird 8. Kobe Bryant 9. Tim Duncan 10. Hakeem Olajuwon 11. Shaquille O’Neal 12. Stephen Curry

I like Shannon's list more, I can't put Shaq in the top 5 ever, he was insanely dominant for a few years, but the league created a meme strategy that took him out of the game late in games, hack a Shaq. Plus I struggle to put him ahead of the all time leader in blocks that Shaq himself even said was the greatest center of all time

18:46 "But ol goat, there's somethin' about ol goat" 😆

“Steph didn’t destroy anybody in the playoffs”. Really Skip? James Harden, KD, Russ, and Dame still have nightmares about GS in the playoffs. The man is 6-0 in the WCF.

To be fair Shannon does make good points I mean the closest player we have to shaq today is Giannis and he already is showing he has the drive and work ethic to keep improving his game so just imagine what shaq woulda been if he had that same drive and will to be the best I think by the time Giannis ends his career he will be looked at as the most dominant player to grace the game cuz by then he should have a more then decent 3 pt shot a good mid range game to go along with his just absolutely monster game in the paint🤷🏽‍♂️

Shaq was dominant player for 10 years, from 1993 to 2003 he was a superstar

Skip is pure comedy. His face when he said "you bumped Shaquille O'Neal out of your top 10" LMFAOOOO

Really interesting take on Shaq by Shannon. But it's funny how Steph not only changed the game, he's changing the requirements to be in the Top 10.

Skip got the most bs top 10 list I ever saw he's talking about Steph not over Shaq due to achievements but this man got Lebron at 9 🤦🏾‍♂️

When Shannon is talking about Kobe only having one MVP everybody knows that he got robbed for about two other ones because of what happened in colorado! Let's be clear one of Steve Nash's MVPs belongs to Kobe and one of Steve Nash's MVP's belongs to Shaq

Shaq is the greatest football player/tank the NBA has ever seen. Basketball player to me means elite skills in passing, shooting, dribbling, movement without the ball, court vision, leadership to make others better and determination to get the W. Steph took his pound for pound greatness and surpassed the heavyweights. Did what Iverson couldn't and won 4 rings while changing the game. Steph belongs in the top 10. Some may need time and distance to see his greatness, but we are witnessing it first hand and close up. Period.

I'd say Hakeem is top 10. His back to back chips with a lackluster supporting cast is too underrated

Shaq stats 92- 23.4pts 13.9 rbs 93- 29.3pts 13.2 rbs 94- 29.3pts 11.4 rbs 95- 26.6pts 11.0 rbs 96- 26.2pts 12.5 rbs 97- 28.3pts 11.4 rbs Those are his 1st 6yrs Shaq came into the league top 5

skips kobe placement is the most reasonable, but honestly to me kobe is right behind MJ. Kobe beat the most 50win teams for his 2 rings, did it without shaq, second place in all nba defensive first teams.

Shannon’s face when skip said shaq is third is priceless

The arguments Shannon is saying for Kareem and Wilt over Shaq is the same for Jordan over Lebronm more MVPs, Finals MVPs, scoring titles, steals titles, memorable moments, etc. Lebron only has MJ in longevity stats like Mailman.

I think the hugest difference between Skip's and Shannon's list is that Skip is largely basing his list off of those intangibles (i.e. clutchness or dominance) vs. Shannon is a bit of both, leaning towards stats (i.e. number of MVPS, longevity accolades). Both got their points and everyone's top 10 is going to be different. Shannon's right, at some point you gotta be nitpicking to make this list.

Steph pushes Shaq out🤣🤣🤣Love you Unc, but you tweekin with that one😂

Kobe, MJ, Kareem, Majic, Wilt, Bird, Bron, Shaq, Russel, Wardell

3:26 Shannon's face 😭😭

I get why Shannon puts Lebron at #1. That's his guy, but bumping Shaq out of the top 10 is blasphemous

Imo I think with in the next 20 years, I think this will be the top 8 nba players of all time (no order) and I’m basing it off of impact to the nba, and rings and championships and personal accolades throughout their career. (No order) 1. MJ 2.Kobe 3. Lebron 4. Kareem 5.steph 6. Magic 7. Bill Russell 8. Wilt

Sheesh! Wilt's 55 REBOUNDS are more impressive than that 100 point game. I never knew that one.

Who wants to bet in this segment skip will say "It's unlike anything I've seen before"

Steph knocking Shaq out the top 10 is ridiculous. 3 FMVPS and 4 Rings, most dominant big man ever.

My top 10 is 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Tim Duncan 4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5. Magic Johnson 6. Steph Curry 7. Larry Bird 8. Kobe Bryant 9. Shaquille O'Neal 10. Hakeem Olajuwon Bill Russell & Wilt Chamberlain don't get on my list cause they played when it was 8 teams and the Celtics where winning titles and still getting the top picks

Same Shannon that had Oscar Robertson over Kobe now bumping Shaq out of the top 10?? Lmaooooooo

We're in that dreaded time of year when the first block of the show for the next two months are going to be some version of Jordan versus Lebron. Where we hear the same stories and arguments over who is better.

I like the respect for bird one of my favorite players of all time

Remember, during the Lakers 3-peat Kobe was the Pippen, the TOny Parker. It was Shaq's team...

Steph being in the top 10 is a matter of opinion. Top 12-15 definitely.

Going off of shannon's logic, jordan should be 1. He has more awards

My top 10 1 MJ 2 Lebron 3 Kareem 4 Wilt 5 Magic 6 Kobe 7 Curry 8 Russell 9 Duncan 10 Bird

Steph is 34, not 32 - that's a big difference in terms of what he might accomplish in the future.

BLESSINGS

Shannon got Shaq to low and Skip got him to high smh... I got him in like 7-8

Kobe deserved more than just one MVP.

My top 10 I got 1. LeBron James 2. Michael Jordan 3. Kobe Bryant 4. Magic Johnson 5. Tim Duncan 6. Bill Russell 7. Larry Bird 8. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 9. Shaquille O'Neal 10 Stephen Curry

Top 10 lists are always fun 😀😇My list is 1)MJ 2)Bron 3)Bird 4)Magic 5)Kareem 6)Shaq 7)Duncan 8)Russell 9)Kobe, 10)Wilt (I Have Steph currently at 12 )

2 small mistakes by Shannon- Steph is 34, not 32 and Curry is II not Jr

Skip face when he said he bumped Shaq out 😂

Bro these lists be killing me with Kobe anything above 3 , did y’all forget that soon?

“You been knew dat” 😂😂😂

I get all the championships Russel has but if we’re talking about actual player skills I wouldn’t put him in the top 10. He has the hardware and I know he was more defensive than offensive but his stats just don’t hold up to everyone else. He played with a lot of HOF players in a league that was a lot weaker overall.

Lebron at #9 is incomprehensible. There's no way he's anything but top 2-3.

The ideal all time top 10 is this: 1-MJ 2-Kareem 3-Bill russell 4-Kobe Bryant 5-Lebron James 6-Wilt chamberlain 7-Shaq 8-Larry Bird 9-Magic Johnson 10-Hakeem Thats my opinion and ideal selection paying respect to all those guys.

"wish that on me"🤣🤣🤣

0:33 Skip's flabber was gasted lmaoo

Let's get top 25 from now on. Its too many great players.

This is what Draymond says about skip and old media. He doesn’t mention the 4 games steph dominated but the two he didnt

Mj, Kareem, Kobe, magic, Duncan, russel, wilt, Larry, bron, Shaq.

How the non player media always puts Kobe Bryant outside the top 5 is beyond me. Most who played the game give him proper respect, especially those who played against him.

Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest force ever.. rebounding 👑 scoring 👑 blocking 👑 greatest athlete ever.. strongest player ever.. he will always be top 5 !!!

Steph curry Greatest scorer ever Changed the entirrr game to his will 5 finals 5 years that’s crazy Unanimous only one ever 4 titles 3 mvps And he must be credited for the gsw way he is the leader the star the prince of that team

I actually think Shannons and Skips lists are both pretty good and both made good points

This is the funniest sports duo on tv!🤣🤣

Let's say Steph wins another MVP. He's +1300. That ties him with Magic, Larry, and Moses. Then he wins another ring and Finals MVP. Steph could leapfrog to top 5 next year! Hard to argue with that.

Great video, have a wonderful day everyone.✌

Shannon said “3-4 years”?? 92. 23.4 pts 13 boards 93 29.3 pts 13 boards 94 29.3 pts 11 boards 95 26.6 pts 11 boards all at Orlando 96 thru 03 Shaq balled on the Lakers & got 3 rings in 4 finals. That’s 10 solid years!! And when he went to Miami he put up 22.9 pts 10 boards & 2.7 blocks!!! 11 solid years, 5 finals & 4 rings, 3 Finals MVPs & you have Steph is better????

Shannon was a workout warrior. The fact that Shaq was the most physically dominant player ever and was as great as he was considering his poor work ethic (relative to other nba legends) bothers him. Edit: now that I think about it, if we’re penalizing players for not maximizing their careers, logically we have to give players who did maximize their careers more credit. So is Steve Nash now a borderline top 10 player because he was a massive overachiever?

1. MJ 2. Kareem 3. LeBron 4. Kobe 5. Duncan 6. Magic 7. Shaq 8. Wilt 9. Bill Russell 10. Curry

Skip can’t talk about Shannon not having Shaq it’s more absurd to have LeBron at 9 and Curry out of the top 10

And here's what I'm thinking: what's skip gonna say if Steph gets number 5? If Steph has 5, with the MVPs, the scoring titles, all that, I mean, there's gonna be talks that he'll surpass Magic. Then what? Also, you watch Steph Curry live, and let me tell you, Steph hits threes that make you feel just as helpless as shaq's physicality. I saw a game in Oracle against the sixers where Steph had 45, and deadass, he would hit a three over a double team, and both the guys guarding him would turn to their coach FURIOUS. Like, "what are we supposed to do with this? How could we possibly stop THAT?" I mean, c'mon, this is ridiculous. Steph literally just destroyed the Celtics! And he destroyed the Mavericks before that! I mean, heck, he swept the blazers in 2019 WITHOUT Kevin Durant!

In case anyone was curious as to what these two lists average out as: 1. MJ 2 MAGIC 3. KAREEM 4. BRON 5. DUNCAN T6. BIRD T6. RUSSEL T6. SHAQ 9. WILT 10. KOBE 11. CURRY

MY TOP 10 1:Mj (class of his own) 2-5:Kareem, Kobe, Bron, Magic (all interchangeable) 6-12: Hakeem, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Curry, Wilt, Russell (all interchangeable)

Lbj at 9th is crazy 🤣