What I would have loved to see is a larger monitor and a smaller bezel on the play field. They charge way too much for virtual pinball. The markup insane. Can’t wait for the second video!
Looking forward to diving into building a full size Virtual Pinball Cab as soon as it becomes spring and my garage/workshop warms up! Great intro.... Laughed out loud for real.. A REAL LOL
If you didn’t burn your house 🏠 down, then your headed in the right direction! At least you already have the toy shock pinball cabinet! Keep up the good work!
Take that metal frame bezel and cut a larger opening for say a 32 inch monitor? Screw side rails in the cabinet with a mounting bracket to hold the monitor?
Someone else mentioned the KL25Z microcontroller briefly and I’d like to elaborate: The KL25Z is like $20-30 and has been used as the brains of an open-source pinball simulator controller setup known as Pinscape: os.mbed.com/users/mjr/code/Pinscape_Controller_V2/wiki/Homepage When flashed with Pinscape code, the microcontroller can be used as a USB joystick to handle switch inputs, as well as analog nudging with its built-in accelerometer (no pressing a button to “shake” the machine at a pre-set intensity, just shake it like there’s a real ball inside!) and analog plunger input (the plunger may require some more complicated configuration depending on how the plunger sensor is designed to generate signal, but iirc Pinscape is written to accommodate a variety of sensor setups, so maybe not). Inputs are programmed by default to the most common keys used by simulators, making for quick and easy setup; plug in your buttons and you’re off to the races. Related is an expansion board compatible with Pinscape for force feedback devices (dummy solenoids for authentic vibrations from bumpers/flippers, shaker motors, real chimes, etc): mjrnet.org/pinscape/expansion-board.html It’s an incredible project, and modding this machine seems like an excellent application for it! I’m back to wanting one of these ToyShark units to hack...
Never thought I'd be interested it modding pinball games but this was really cool, for someone that already has the parts laying around as you said it could be a good alternative to spending the cash on a more expensive unit. Awesome work!
Man, I got some extra PCs and monitors, I’ll just either get a cabinet kit, or build one from scratch, get some pinball cab legs, and forgo buying a toy shark. Seems like yours setup is performing better, and obviously the possibility of expansion with more tables make this very enticing.
@@RetroRalph Yah. I'm comfortable working with wood and figuring things out. Looks like I can get a set of actual pinball height legs for it too that way. Not sure if it will look goofy or not. But I might go to a 32" playfield and a smaller bezel.
Ralph, for the DMD you should be able to right click within the DMD and then (doing this from memory) there is an option to show borders or something like that. Once the borders are there you can size it how you want. Then you can turn the borders off. Give it a shot if that doesn't work I can look on mine and give you exact directions. EDIT: Also there is a Terminator 2 VPX table by G5K which is worlds better than all the others. Search around for it, you won't be disappointed. You can check my channel for some gameplay of it as well. Good job BTW, now you need some solenoids in there for some force feedback :).
Thanks so much man, I really appreciate the tip on the T2 table, This chrome mod has a lot of issues. I’m going to give the DMD a shot this afternoon and I will let you know. Thanks for watching, I’m going to check out your channel as well! 👍🏻
@@RastanPinball I feel so dumb that all I had to do is right click on the backglass and say "show boarder" .. .LOL. Thanks so much man, looks awesome now. I can't seem to find the T2 table you're talking about. Anyplace in particular I should be going to hunt it down? Thanks man!
Retro Ralph Ha ha it’s all good... its not something you would think about, right clicking on it. As far as T2, I think the site it was hosted on is no longer running. Do you have a place I can DM you?
If you can connect a mouse move it over the DMD to the corner or edge and you should be able to resize it. You can also hold done the mouse and re-position the DMD. Otherwise, go into the table folder and look for a BS2server config file.
Great work Ralph you Always seem to amaze me so I am a loyal fan of your channel you do a very great job With your mods and explaining what you did and how to do it thanks a lot really i appreciate it
that’s cool, though prob would have been cheaper to just cut some mdf & make cabinet form scratch, but I appreciate you didn’t intend to destroy the boards lol. You should look at Pbfx3 cabinet mode too the tables are really nice & you can add static back glasses & dmd too. I haven’t touched VPX for awhile but I think you right click on the dmd to reposition it where you wish
Right click on the DMD, and choose show window boarder. You can then resize it to where you want. Right click again and uncheck "show window boarder". Then to have it default in the same position for new tables so you don't have to re-adjust from scratch, take the dmd values from this table and create them in "default" in the registry. So in this case you're playing attack from Mars so after the DMD is where you want it, goto regedit to Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Freeware\Visual PinMame\afm_113b (or whichever rom name version you're using). Copy the values for "dmd_height", "dmd_width", "dmd_pos_x" and "dmd_pos_y" (in decimal to make it easy).. Then create those same name REG_DWORD entries in Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Freeware\Visual PinMame\default . Now all new tables will have the DMD standard for first time launch then you can tweak from that point if other tables need additional adjustments. It'll automatically save to the registry when you move the DMD around.
$400 for the Cab + $200 for a dell optiplex and a descent GPU + $200 for 2 screens + 150 for converter boards and encoders + $50 for unexpected things = $1000 Ish.
Totally badass brother I can do video games all day long virtual pinball I have no idea very cool that you're doing it and making it look really really cool like I said before now you got to fix that bezel LOL and don't forget don't use plexiglass use lexan
Lookin' pretty decent. In that one shot it looked like you changed the playfield bezel to black, but I guess it was just the lighting. It looked better black.
If my memory is correct you should be able to right click on the dmd and turn on the window border. You can then just resize and move the dmd window to wherever you want. I could be wrong though not next to my vpin at the moment.
Love the info. Most likely I would just use your lessons learned and apply it to a diy build with better visuals. Cool that you did this on the low end but it seems like a proof of concept to just building a bigger and better one yourself. Arcade 1ups are cool cause of their unique feel (star Wars) and the artwork. You don't necessarily feel like you are missing out by using a smaller form factor compared to original and the games are emulating at basically 100% with raspberry pi. Pinball arcade you are trying to recreate something real and for that I think you have to have 4k at a minimum and even then you can still argue the physics are off.
If i had to do it over again i'd get the recroommasters one with the presetup controls. You just have to add your pc and screens. www.recroommasters.com/virtual-pinball-machines-s/82.htm. thay had a 24" i don't see now. You can also get a mini cab kit for a little over $300 on ebay. The thing with vpin is once you get started you are going to want 4k, nudge, dmd, etc. Don't make my mistake and keep having to upgrade. You will also need an i5 with at least a gtx 1060 to run 4k on a 40" 4k tv playfield. I spend more tine in my pincab than all the other things in my gameroom put together.
I too like breaking stuff, like my Legends Ultimate I told you about, hah. Did you ever find out if Atgames can sell me another console for it? Keep up the great vids, Ralph!
Hey Ralph. Love you videos. How did the bezel go from black at 7:51 to stock gray at 7:52? The one thing I can't get past with this cabinet is that oversized bezel. Would a 32 inch monitor fit instead?
Great Video Ralph! You took some bad luck and turned it into a pretty awesome looking product. I like the black painted bezel, it really does look better. Would you recommend buying a Vpin shell or wood kit instead of buying a Toyshark? I kinda think you could get a better shell for $400 - any thoughts?
People keep mentioning the GameRoomSolutions kit, I don't have any experience with it but it looks nice. I believe you can add legs to it now as well. Recroommaters used to have a pretty sweet kit but I don't know if they sell it anymore.
@@RetroRalph Thanks I will check out those sites. I have been considering building a virtual pin for about 3 years now. Your video has shown me that it may not be as difficult as I was thinking, I am definitely going to do a build now. I just need to see about a kit or build the shell myself. Looking forward to more videos!
I'd be really happy if you made a setup video for these pinball emulators. I've been wanting to buid one, but the software is a real pain for what I can see. Thanks and I hop you an d Kim have a great holiday.
Would definitely be curious about the software side of things here; I got the ToyShock for its built-in tables but I'm worried that I might now have gotten bitten by the bug for more...
If you’re using the USB encoder you don’t technically need to use anything with visual pinball 8, 9 or 10. You use Windows 10 and it will tell you what button number each connection is and then you map it in visual pinball. I’m going to show how to do this in part 2!
@@RetroRalph Honestly, that is surprising. Most of the discussion in the virtual pinball community usually recommend an i5 and a 970 or 980 video card as the minimum hardware specs for VP. If you are able to achieve respectable results with much lower specs, especially onboard gpu...well, you've got my attention (and respect)!
Retro Ralph ok cool, I have a 2 monitor pinball fx3 setup with a 22 inch widescreen as the play field and a 17 inch full screen as the back glass. Do you think that will work in this cab? If so then I’m heading to Walmart this Saturday to hunt this cabinet down. Thanks
Awesome mod bro I'm just about to build my first virtual pinball cabinet myself with stuff lying around the house I've got issues with future pinball script 109 mediation don't know what that is.If anyone knows plz HELP 😢😢
why WHY!!!!.... would you BUY another monitor that fit into the POS bezel??.... WHY!!! is this the mentality of the people that buy arcade1up machines??.... holy hell man
I have to agree with some other people in this comment section. Unless you just like doing tinkering, it ain't worth all the effort and most importantly the capitol to salvage anything. Woulve just took the L when I fried the fucker and moved on with my life.
Not worth it to mod, you can do this with less money. For your control i suggest you the kl25z, you will have thé plunger and the nudge with your buttons. For thé menu, take a look to the pinup system. Thks for the vids. Cheers
