Thank you for making this video. I worked on the film for its entire production. I worked in Look Development: Dino skin, water, compositing, smoke, dust, and the meteor strike. The carnotaur and the river crossing scene were inspired by an exhibit at the LA natural history museum. As shown in the video, in the original story, the meteor happened at the end of picture and all the dinos died. After the story changed to have the meteor at the end of the first act and the dinos living happily ever after in "the Great Valley", we asked ourselves, "Didn't Don Bluth just do this story?" There was an underwater shot in the original introduction that I worked on that was scrapped because of an IDENTICAL shot in "The Land Before Time". The animation program that was to become "Maya" was developed for Dinosaur. After production and "Wildlife" being cancelled, the 3 to 4 hundred artists who worked on the project were fired. Again, thanks for putting together this video. It is a melancholy memory for me.
No matter how much a film is crtiticised it always has its fans that felt a big resonance with this film that was a highlight in their life. and i loved this film as much as i did in grade school, still my favorite dino movie ever, i still think the cgi is unmatched. It still looks beautiful today. I even wanted to direct a parody replica for a school recital, it didnt happen due to school not taking me seriously lol but i was so passionate about making movies series and animations because of that movie! I think The imaging aged well , its so believable , the merging of the background and the cgi! And i love the final story ! Your work is appreciated and didnt go to waste in my book!
So basically, they took a film that was meant to be experimental and for adults, turned it into another conventional kids film, and then blamed its unremarkable outcome on being too adult-oriented? The absolute nerve.
@@lampad4549 how is he a fanboy if he said he likes it? By your bullshit logic, if I said I still liked the movie even if anyone else didn't, I'd be a fanboy. Grow up and learn things
Considering that Disney has remade their animated films into live action remakes, they might revisit the script and make another adaptation of Dinosaur (2000).
Kinda upsets me how the wider public view dinosaurs as a topic for childrens entertainment, and all dinosaur movies, no matter how realistic or beautiful, have to be dumbed down for kids with talking dinosaur characters and side characters. That's the problem I have with disney and larger studios, they don't care about the passion people put into the project, if it isn't marketable or makes a lot of money it's worthless and either needs to be changed to check the boxes, or be scrapped all together. Like, im all for more fictional narratives with less realistic dinosaurs but like a slightly realistic silent film would've been so much better than what we got, depicting the lives of actual animals instead of simple happy going lizards that were aimed for kids
I love this movie as is, but yes it is a shame we didn’t get what could’ve been. But I say it’s a lot less acceptable for the Walking With Dinosaurs movie from 2013. At the very least the Disney movie took itself seriously and wasn’t dumbed down to trash like that one was. And yeah, it’s true it seems the general public only thinks two extremes for dinosaurs: make them talk with dumbed down dialogue for kids, or make them super violent monsters for action or horror….
I honestly don’t blame the crew who worked on the movie and didn’t want the dinosaurs to talk nor have a lighter tone, cuz they didn’t want to do that. They didn’t want to make a kiddie dinosaur movie, they wanted to show the dark and mature elements of dinosaurs
“Why did they make a big deal out of talking dinosaurs?” Because the filmmakers didn’t want them to talk. That’s it. Movies and shows without dialogue exists and most are pretty damn good. The topic of dinosaurs aren’t exclusively for kids, and people/media/companies need to stop thinking that it is. I’ll end this by saying: I grew up with this movie and I still love it. I’ve played the ps2 game and I love it. But the fact remains that what could and should have been was invalidated and changed, against the filmmakers will, is kind of upsetting
Dinosaur was actually one of my favorite movies and I actually do like looking back at it and remembering how I used to believe that everything was animated and that they really did make the scenery so realistic until when I realized that the scenery was real while the dinosaurs were animated. Hearing all of this about the movie and how originally the movie was gonna be stop motion really did surprise me. Imagine if someday someone looks back at these concepts, scripts, and storylines and decides to actually make the Dinosaur movie using one of those original stories
Seriously nothing about the movie we got was 100% child friendly it still was pretty serious, mature and dramatic. You want generic and kid friendly bullshit there's the 2013 Walking with Dinosaurs with its poop jokes and non stop voice over.
@@kennethsatria6607 Disney's Dinosaur was very much intended for the family-friendly audience, with some elements of cheeky humor and a rather generic "don't give up" plotline. And while Kron and the Carnotaurs did give the film a touch of dark drama, there were lots of other segments that felt overly bubbly, and I personally don't think it mixed well. 2013 Walking with Dinosaurs is just worse in every way, no argument. But comparisons aside, Dinosaur had a lot of potential it didn't tap on.
it's rather sad how much this mirrors the production of the WWD movie i guess if we want a realistic dinosaur movie it's gonna have to be made outside of holly wood because they just don't get it.
I was really happy about that too. They even had to recreate their models from scratch to be able to use them with modern tools. You can also spot Aladar in the background when the princesses are singing together. I actually wish we could have gotten a little more though, like Zini in the bathroom scene or Suri alongside Antonio Madrigal.
I've had the "Making of" book on my shelf for as long as I can remember, and I have to say, it's odd seeing all this beautiful art and progress work juxtaposed with a hundred pages of people saying "we had NO idea what we were doing with this."
Even though earlier versions May not ever see the light of Day, the movie that we got was a beautiful, incredible and amazing piece of cinematic art, close to a masterpiece, and a beloved movie that would be forever remember as one of the BEST dinosaur movies of all time, sharing it's place with Jurassic Park
I don't think we'll ever get a Dinosaur movie in the style of a silent documentary which is a shame. It's already been proven there's an audience that kind of film. I could do nothing but suffer in silence as he mentioned how audiences got all excited with the first trailer but got turned down the second they knew the dinosaurs would talk. And the thing is, I love the concept of a movie with talking dinosaurs, but only if it was planned to be that way. I didn't mind the dialogue in the WWD movie until I found out it was meant to have no dialogue at all until some dumb executive thought that they wouldn't be relatable if the dinos didn't talk I love Dinosaur. It's one of my favorite Disney movies. But the missed potential of a dino-doc like film with that animation quality gives me mixed feelings.
There are a few “sound effects only” edits of Dinosaur scenes. All we need now is for someone to sync the music, and we can get a glimpse of how it could’ve looked as a no-dialogue final product.
@@deldante dialogue-free storytelling has been proven to be successful in the past; just look at many of the Pixar shorts, or again, the Prologue & Desert Crossing scenes from Dinosaur. I can definitely see the appeal: ppl have seen talking animals done to death, and "dino nature documentaries" (esp those of quality) are few & far btwn, so any opportunity to see one would be highly welcome. Besides, do you think everyone enjoyed hearing "mr love monkey" thru out the film??
@@UGNAvalon which is why I said j see it as a family movie. The adults can enjoy the amazing graphics and music. The kids enjoy the cringy jokes. I'm pretty sure I laughed at that scene when I was a kid. Now not so much
Can’t believe Disney can’t grow a pair and show children that the world isn’t all sunshine and rainbows I would of loved to of seen the dark details to this film
Tibbet should not have gone to Disney. Instead, he should have chosen or optioned other animation studios. We know Disney will never ever accept this kind of concept and idea. Tibbet should try reconsidering his plot and concept. It's an artistic masterpiece and the story, the plot, the characters and the transition in the ending are undoubtedly creative and compelling! Honestly, Dinosaur 2000 was one of my favorite, childhood movies. But Dinosaurs by Phil Tibbet is now my current, compelled, dinosaur film, that I will pay for to watch and see how it executes well. Please, Tibbet.. reconsider your conceptual masterpiece and make that stop motion film! I want to watch it. Even though I'm the first and, currently, the only movie fan, who wants to watch your film, I'm certain and sure.. that everyone else, who had discovered your concept for this film, are interested and intrigued too. I hope you will still make this film in the future. It's not too late. We NEED and WANT a dinosaur film that is not kid-friendly. I'm sorry for the kids, okay? But it's time for the dinosaurs to entertain the matured ones, who perceive great, artistic masterpiece. Fortunately, I'm one of them.
I'm 100% positive if they weren't talking, then an equally big portion of the audience would have been horrified to realize Disney wants them to look at a silent movie for 2 hours. Be happy no singing occurred, alright? The Lion King, now that's a true stupid story... directly photo realizing a cartoon, H-WHYY???
I’m with you partner and I pretty much agree with you that Disney should do more dinosaur movies, television series and other media but they’ll do them soon.
I genuinely believe the project would've greatly benefited from a, for a lack of a better term, "Ghibli" approach to it's story: Mundane is beautiful. Trying to force the project into these pre-existing formats and have love interests, comedy reliefs and action scenes.. just made everything feel that bit more artificial and redacted from the atmosphere surrounding the actual animals, the dinosaurs. The mystery & majesty is the biggest allure in knowing dinosaurs were once real, and art should appreciate that, instead of trying to shoehorn it into something we have conventionalized and normalized. I don't by any means dislike the final product, but it's a pale shadow of the immense potential they had on their hands. Disagreements over the dinosaurs talking vs. not talking seems to me like a culmination of these clashing perspectives.
It seems like both Disney’s Dinosaur and the more recent Walking With Dinosaurs film had the same thing going on behind the scenes. Both were films that were meant to be visually told stories, with no voices whatsoever, and with the use some of the most amazing effects ever put to film, but then some creatively bankrupt studio executive came in and said “No, you need to make them talk and/or sing because it makes us money”, thus taking what was being made and watering it down in some way with voices and dialogue. I gotta say, though, I can forgive the Disney film, not because it’s something I have fond memories of, but at the very least the voices and dialogue were delivered with sincerity and it took itself seriously, and any semblance of jokes, while they weren’t the best, were nothing cringeworthy either. That and the voices were all unique and fun to listen to. Can’t say the same for WWD, which arguably put a lot more effort in using the knowledge known at the time (since the knowledge we had back in 2013 was a far cry from what we had back in 2000), but because of those previously mentioned studioexecusaurus boomerensis doing what they do best, we ended up getting a film with super annoying voices and dialogue that was the complete opposite: Absolutely watered down garbage dialogue with some of the stupidest most below basic jokes, all of which just looks down on its target audience like they’re society’s biggest idiots. It’s really a shame that we had this whole process going on *TWICE* and it only got worse the second time…. Honestly, we really do deserve better with dinosaurs in movies like this (and in general). I won’t lie I would like to see Phil Tippet make his dinosaur movie, without having creatively bankrupt money-eaters standing over him, or anyone who wants to try it.
Not bad of the video of Dinosaur 2000, one of my favorite dinosaur movies and Disney movies of all time and a huge part of my childhood. That was great of you adding great points and explanation of the Behind the Scenes and the project of Dinosaur 2000. Overall, not bad but good video.
I agree I would love to see a sequel to this movie. In my opinion I'm upset the trex wasn't the antagonist of the film because trex is my favorite dinosaur. I like Carntaurus but trex to me would have been a better antagonist, also Carntaurus was to big. They only grow up to 12 feet tall if they wanted to use a dino that was big that wasn't trex they should have used giganotosaurus in my opinion, because they can get to 18 to 20 feet tall. I would also love to see a dinosaur film where the trex is the protagonist or a twist hero, because I'd love to see the whole blood thirsty monster stereotype flipped on it's head while still showing trex was a hunter that's not to be messed with.
@@ashtonsherrod7824 I think the reason why Disney didn’t use Trex as the Main Antagonist of the Film was because they didn’t want to make it too much like Sharptooth from “The Land Before Time” from 1988 since “Dinosaur” was already feeling too much like from the Movie & didn’t want to use have a Trex in it to make it similar to Sharptooth by stealing the same Dinosaur to put in it & wanted to use a different Dinosaur of a Carnotaurus which were 2 of them as the Main Antagonists just to make the Movie different than “The Land Before Time”. It’s my own Theory to why I believe is the real reason why Trexs was not in “Dinosaur” in my honest opinion.
I wish Disney would revisit Dinosaur these days or in the future for a sequel or remake. In fact there’s a lot of Disney films like the Black Cauldron that I wish got remakes in this age of sequels and reboots. These films never did quite well and deserve a second chance to give people something different. However it doesn’t seem like Disney will ever do another dinosaur themed film ever again. With the revival of the Jurassic Park franchise and the failure of the good dinosaur, a dinosaur film by them isn’t guaranteed to be the success they would want it to be. I just realised that we really only have 2 dinosaur films from the biggest company on earth. That’s just mind boggling to me.
Nice to see all this in one place! I had to search all over the internet for most of this after I found Will Stout's blog several years ago. Brian Franczak will be greatly missed. He was my favorite paleoartist
At around 8:00 when talking about NOT using the trex as the main villain, I’m glad they used the Carnotaurus. Rexy would’ve definitely be overused had they went that route And I fell in love with the devil horned Carnotaurus that they brought us. He was a big, mean, scary bully. It like the makes wanted to make sure that Rexy was out of our minds when watching this movie
The movie would be better if they just took it seriously and played it straight as a survival tale. It was basically another land before time only with less compelling characters
The story with the 2 Brothers did sound better than the final product. Shame. The final product ended up being too similar imo to Land Before Time but with less emotion and characterization.
I loved this movie as a kid. I watched it over and over until my parents were too tired of the same movie. Seeing it today brings me lots of good memories and nostalgia. And as you’ve pointed out: the visual are astonishing, but taking emotions aside, the story is not the greatest. I would’ve loved to see the version in which there is no dinosaur dialogue at all… Great video mate!
Glad I found this video, I’ve been seeing a lot of videos reacting or analyzing this movie recently and I’m happy that you showed the lengthy development of this movie. I always found this movie’s production to be Fascinating and just how much it changed from a stop motion film to cgi animated film. I genuinely had no idea that two people died during the filming of the live action segments of the film, was not expecting that part at all lol. Absolutely great work! 👍
This movie is ride of nostalgia and good feelings when I watch it. It’s just as good and holds up pretty well 20 plus years later. I love Disney’s Dinosaur like it’s a family member to me.
16:33 This is so funny to me, because even as a kid, I thought the first 6 minutes of the movie were the best part, and everything went downhill the second the lemurs were introduced. The Carnosaurus chase sequence on its own thrilled me and had me on the edge of my seat, wondering if the little dinosaur contained within the egg would survive to adulthood if its existence was under such threat before it was even born. Disney really underestimated how many kids LOVE nature documentaries, BECAUSE of all their drama and violence, not despite it. Survival horror as a genre is super compelling, and the prehistoric world as re-imagined and reconstructed by humans minds is the best setting I can think of for such a film. What a shame that the only animation studios large enough to undertake a mature story just wanted to dumb it down "for kids." :/ Kids can feel it when adults condescend to them, and movie plot lines are no different. I certainly noticed. Bambi and Fantasia were among my most rewatched movies in elementary school; I would have adored a no-dialogue animated movie about Dinosaurs in a similar vein as presented in the trailer. Hell, I'd enjoy that now too, lol.
Alright. This is a MOVIE. Not a science accurate documentary. There's plenty of documentaries where dinosaurs don't talk. This movie was amazing when I watched it as a kid and it's still amazing while watching it with my son. I didn't realize how epic the soundtrack is. The graphics still hold up for the year 2022. I wish there was more. I wish Brutton had survived. I wish I could see a sequel and they still talk. I see this as a family movie. Good for both kids and parents.
This is one of my favorite movie of all time. I loved to see dinosaurs talking as a kid. It was just PERFECT. I never loved stupid princess movies this much.
Dinosaurs having lips is true for Saurischian dinosaurs like Sauropods like Brachiosaurus & non avian Theropods like T. Rex, avian Theropods like modern birds do have beaks on the other hand, but for Ornithischian dinosaurs like Iguanodon they have evidence for beaks, so that’s why it’s still weird to put lips on an Iguanodon in that sense.
Prehistoric planet definitely has showed that people still have an appetite for dino documentaries just as long as they are done right unlike Netflix dynasty issue
It's Nice that the Main Character was a Styracosaurus (I think later this would be Eema).I think Surrey was the first Plan of the "Ancient Lemurs" ,"Surrey was like based on a Ancient Rat.(This Narrator was also used later for Walking with Dinosaurs 3D.)
I love this movie anyway. It's relatively dark and gritty and has no singing. The soundtrack is phenomenal! It's monumentally better than the Walking with Dinosaurs movie, which I found an insult to watch.
Before I watch… I just wanna say… I don’t know if I will ever understand why people don’t like “Dinosaur”. I have loved that movie since I was a little girl…
geez it seems they just axed every interesting thing in the movie but the producers were so diehard on making it on par with a land before time sequel. (singing and little seriousness)
the worst part of this whole thing is that yeah, it could've been pulled off, it really could've. all the pieces were there, but disney just had to strip everything out. like i would've killed to have that river crossing scene in there that would've been amazing. it really really is a shame. i love this movie, but it was really just dealt a bad hand honestly... if only though.
Someone looking into the history of Dinosaur should probably also try to check up on the history of this film I found on DVD about a Styracosaurus that gets separated from his herd and has to rebuild one of his own… I think he also loses some dinosaurs he’s close to when a meteor strikes if I remember right… and the film features no dialogue. I forgot what the title was but I had it on DVD before I moved.
Dinosaurs talking gives me brain damage. If I had the talent and resources, I would make a dinosaur epic so realistic and brutal it would give little brats nightmares. No music at all, just the sounds of nature in all its glory.
when i was a small kid i really disliked the movie because of the talking dinosaurs and the human story. also the lemurs. they are in the wrong place and the wrong time. the visuals are great i give them that but these animals dont act like animals, they act like generic movie protagonists and antagonists and there is so many outdated and inaccurate details in this movie that i still believe, this is a bad movie.
Dinosaur is one of my favorite movies of all time and I’m so glad that Disney made it. But the one thing that I don’t get why did people make a big deal over the dinosaurs talking?
Maybe it was the popularity of JURASSIC PARK. The hyperrealistic dinosaurs from that film gave audiences an enormous expectation in terms of what to expect from dinosaurs in live-action films. "You loved the dinosaurs in JURASSIC PARK, right? Now imagine exoerieng what their lives had been like before their extinction."
Hey man, thanks for the video, really great one, hope you make more content like this. I really love this movie and i don't care what people are saying about it, I just love it and the concept art that were made for this movie. If anybody wants to find these concept art, you can go on Pinterest.
At least it's nice you were able to actually scour up more details about the many alternate storylines. Sure it does feel like a missed opportunity, but at the same time you can't really expect everything to be an original creation. I feel too many people have put their expectations too high or sometimes I feel like they want to pander to the high-elite snobs who need to think everything needs perfection or everything needs to be original. At least this movie still takes itself seriously and does know when to be intense when it needed to, and at least this was more better executed compared with the Walking with Dinosaurs 2013 film.
Imagine if we got a version of this movie where the characters don’t talk, but this time the main character is an Edmontosaurus and he gets adopted by a huge family of Purgatorius which are believed to be close relatives to Primates, and then later they come across a herd of dinosaurs that consist of other Edmontosaurus, and also other species like Triceratops, Ankylosaurus, Ornithomimus, Pachycephalosaurus, Thescelosaurus, Therizinosaurus & Alamosaurus all in the same herd together, and the main threats are T. Rexes (which would be the killer of the main Edmontos parents at the beginning of the movie) also Dakotaraptor’s, Quetzalcoatlus & Deinosuchus, and it would’ve taken place in Late Cretaceous North America (there’s evidence for Therizinosaurids being in North America during the Late Cretaceous albeit its somewhat scarce) and the animals would all be up to date in terms of paleontological accuracy.
It's weird to think Disney had two chances to have their own dinosaur IP they could profit off of like crazy like what Universal does with Jurassic Park but somehow managed to fuck it up TWICE with Disney's Dinosaur and Pixar's THE GOOD Dinoasaur
Damn. As much as I have a soft spot for this movie, I'm not gonna lie, I would have adored to see Paul Verhoeven's version. I've actually come to dislike the decision to make the dinosaurs talk the more I re-watch Dinosaur.
@@lampad4549 Pretty sure that can also be accomplished with no dialogue. I'm well aware that decision wouldn't exactly been the best box office wise, but as an artistic experiment it would have been quite interesting.
@@SIMBA-tq2ch Oh god yes. I can't even begin to tell you what a colossal disappointment Dominion was. But within the JP fandom, I appear to hold the unpopular opinion here lol
You know, I loved this movie and Emperor's New Groove as a kid and I love them now, but man what would I give to watch both the early versions of Dinosaur (both the talkless one and the biblical one) and Kingdom of the Sun...
Damn! The production of Disney’s dinosaur feels like a what could’ve been story sure I think other animated dinosaur movies have had worse productions especially the walking with dinosaurs movie but I feel like the concept of could’ve been really cool but unfortunately for Disney it was at the wrong place at the wrong time we really haven’t had an animated dinosaur movie where theirs no talking and the dinosaurs are just normal dinosaurs with the exception of the rite of springs segment in fantasia I mean it happened with don bluth with land before time, it happened here with Disney with dinosaur, it happened with the bbc and animal logic with the walking with dinosaurs movie and it happened with Pixar with the good dinosaur I think it’s just because corporate executives don’t really think a silent animated movie with dinosaurs wouldn’t be that appealing for audiences the only animated media I can think where the dinosaurs didn’t talk were the shows walking with dinosaurs (but then again that show had a narrator) and Genndy Tartakovskys Primal
I think it should also be noted, the fact that one of the directors of Dinosaur, was also behind the clustf**k that was We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story (Which had a whopping FOUR DIRECTORS making the movie). So I feel that this movie was a much more improvement that before, and the director learned from his mistakes a bit.
Right. I agree. The Land Before Time had Dinosaurs talk too as well & pretty much people weren’t complaining about it when it was first released in the World. Even though it was a Cartoon Movie & was not made by Disney but you get my point.
Bro I grow up with this movie I truly wish they make a sequel to this beautiful movie especially since new dinos have been found especially Maip Macrothorax like I could see it as the next antagonist for a sequel but atlases Disney an Hollywood everyone ☹️
