The Tragic Loss of Winston's Humanity - 1984 Lore 

sadly, just at the moment when Winston seems closest to happy and most human is when he and Julia are arrested

The old prole is a clever bit because he's clearly a survivor. He doesn't acknowledge the time before the revolution and feigns addlement to appear nonthreatening. He must've known the elderly and their knowledge were a threat

I must read that book again. Your videos show that it has a depth that i didn't remember

I love this channel. As soon as one video is released I am ready for the next. A seminal novel deserves exemplary commentary like yours. Seems as it is a template for our near future. Hail Orwell's prescience.

And people think 40k is depressing, this is FAR worse, since, humans would be willing to do this to other humans, and ailiens dont exist

Everyone has lost their humanity in the book.

"Room 101" 😮 I do wonder how Inner Party interrogation yields "a deepest fear": I do realize that Winston reveals this "childhood Rat story" after hurling the paperweight at a rat, in view of the telescreen (thus 'history' and 'observation'). But is this how every other victim's worst fear was unveiled before moving to "Room 101" ?

Funny, I was just making a map of what I thought the 1984 world ACTUALLY looked like. Happy to see this recommended to me!

I read this section the other day. Winston didn't instinctively know that his mother and sister had been sacrificed for him, but he believed that he had inadvertently murdered his mother by stealing his sister's chocolate rations. He admits to himself that he didn't actually know what happened to his mother and sister and perhaps they ended up in some kind of labor camp or perhaps they were purged by the Party.

Just thinking of the great actors who’ve portrayed Winston Smith over the decades. I know there are more, but off the top of my head: Peter Cushing, Edmond O’Brien (yes, a coincidence there on his name), Patrick Troughton, John Hurt, the list goes on.

Winston's hate for the party is still a part of the party's mechanism, it was all he could ever be.

Yeah, besides the torture I can see why Winston would become a 'literally me' character

I like to view the rhyme with this in mind. As he pushes further he kearns more about the past. The geography as well as the old song itself. There is a second side though in that the deeper he goes th kess heed he has for danger even as it increaes around him. Encouraged gently along by Charrington of course. This brings him to realise that no matter what his humanity is determined only by himself. Until he visits room 101

It would take some film to match the brillance of the Burton and Hunt version of 1984.

Sometimes, I wonder if the world we are living in right now is similar to the setting in the Michael Radford film. It’s kinda chilling to think about.

I must be honest, I did not know what was in room 101

I can say now that I will cling to my humanity, but how well would that last in room 101? We should all cultivate the virtues of course, but…. The old christian martyrs who founded our christian/post-christian society, a society that believes in human rights, faced horrible execution, but those who face totalitarian persecution today (and it is ongoing and many of them are christians) face refined psychological methods of torture. How would you or I last under those conditions? I am not optimistic about myself, though I know some very strong people would not break down before dying. At least we can do our best to stop our own countries from falling into that trap and maybe even help people in those countries that have become totalitarian. Maybe we could stop supporting totalitarian states with our trade. If we don’t even make an effort we may live comfortably but lose our souls in the end (whether you think of souls literally or metaphorically).

low volume but cool vid

That's called employment.

Do you think the 3 superpowers will ever collapse?

[Your closing question] ~ how any of us *might* retain our humanity, after torture by an Agency charged with reeducation of deviants, is maximally subjective. I have +/- 16 fractured bones; many people have never broken one. How would I react to a very tortuous fracture designed to "help me" compared to "Joe" who's never experienced such horrid pain? Would "O'Brien" have to crack five of my bones, to yield the same state of Joe, who's freaking out because he's never experienced that pain? I ❤️ love ❤ this aspect. Who has paid attention to the words of Sirhan Sirhan, who claims his "shooting of Robert Kennedy" happened and he doesnt deny doing it, but claims he had no direct memory of acting through those horrid minutes? He could be a student of "Manchurian Candidate" as a covering act to seek absolution, or(?) ~ he could be living proof of a "Dark Agency" and Thought Control.

Big Brother Stalin Prophet Muhammad same same different skin suit