What? What phone or computer are you using? What apps, from which corporations? Usinf microsoft? Google? Android? Apple OS? You think china is better? lol
@spamredyou need to use both, so there are always dead corners for either side . The problem is US doesn’t have its own, US controls the non-Chinese ones
@@Tola5657 righty said. America is a Democracy and the CCP is a Dictatorship. Surveillance is wrong, but if you ask me whether the CCP can suveil you, or a Democracy i go with Democracy.
@@Djamonja because US espionage is #1 in the world - specially against allies and their own population. All communication in the US is monitored and a lot of the communication in the rest of the world as well; but that is ok, because the US are the "good guys", right? US companies are forced to participate in this espionage, so you know that you can never trust a US based company in terms of data privacy. And there is no rule of law in the US, as you can end up in Guantanamo Bay at any point in time. All you need is the label "terrorist", assigned by a secret court, no human rights needed. But of course, China is evil. Sure.
@@Djamonja i am sure that China does espionage, but mainly to protect itself against an aggressor. I am not sure what is worse: espionage by China or by the US. From the perspective of mankind, it is important that other countries than the US are owning + operating infrastructure. The US seems to be one election away to turn into a dictatorship and that is a risk for all other countries. So from my point of view: China should install more cables and should push back the bully.
The US seems desperate to keep up, they end up spending billions just to ensure they're still players in a field guaranteed to be dominated by China. Eventually, i think they won't be able to keep the money flowing into these projects
Unfortunately it isn't just a regular business competition for the US. The US's biggest fear is if it loses it global dominance, it may lose everything. Economic power, political power, and military power are all interrelated when it comes to the longevity of a nation. Even if someday China becomes a democracy, the US will still try to do everything to stop China from getting ahead. Perhaps the methods may be slightly different.
They can try, China is not stupid, they know who destroyed Nord Stream pipelines. If the US destroy China's cable China can do likewise to the US cable.
Looks like you don't see the US is the 1st world power due to faaaar more than American ingenuity, hard work ethic and GDP alone. The US's economy is also reliant on geopolitics; on exactly how we assert influence over other countries. This is what makes us powerful, which in turn makes us more money. China has been growing exponentially over the last 20 years. They play a long game and technology is huge, integral part of the power struggle.
It is not even on the same competition in terms of scale and yet, US is "concern". It means "freedom" when US and western allies do it. It means something else when others do it.
Why do these news organization always frame the narrative of US/China relations as adversarial with that ominous music all the time??Me vs You, Win/loose. I would be very pleased if they can shine a light to the positive aspects of this relationship in an already divided world
As long as the US is concerned, there is no positive sides to any relationship that doesn't involves them literally owning you and the air you breath. All the aggression you see and here from the US towards China, Russia North Korea, Iran, etc. is nothing more than these countries being the only few countries that doesn't allow the US to determine what goes on in their house. Look at India, they have started painting in every possible bad light available because India refused to toll their line.
Despite the massive investments and strategic importance of undersea cables, the idea that China poses a significant espionage threat through its involvement in the cable industry is overblown and driven more by geopolitical paranoia than actual evidence. The true risk to global data security comes from the lack of international cooperation and standardization in the protection and maintenance of these cables
Why are the Chinese invest in these data cables, if they hide theirs behind a Chinese data wall? There is only one good answer, that is to interfere in our data! Avoid anything Chinese, just saying.
The competition between US and China is not and will never help the future of the world, These two countries must start working together - cooperate and bring the much needed prosperity and security to the every nation.
When the US says they're worried that the Chinese government would do some bad things, I just assume the US has aready been doing those same things for a while.
Of course they know what they been doing for decades. Hopefully China can play this game smarter then Soviets did because world needs more than one big power ,,let's level the playfield" as Americans like to say.
It's not a international ban on Chinese involvement... but just want to dissuade countries from using Chinese manufacturers in strategic connections.... but all connections are strategically important...
There is no need to battle. Just have 2 separate systems. Then compete on price to all customers. I am a Malaysian…..we are neutral and we love competition. We hate monopolies like Google , Apple etc.
Says at around 0:20 that the cables are estimated to be worth trillions of $ per day. That can't be correct; global GDP is around $110 trillion so even if destroying the cables destroyed all of global GDP that would only be around 300 billion per day
I had a friend who was just hired to be a Program Manager in Hong Kong over 8 - 10 years ago by British contractor for the Chinese government to run, maintain and manage their Fiber Optic networks between Hong Kong and Taiwan ( Hon - Tai network) but US and UK governments wouldn't build those cables or run them due to worry about Chinese competition. So that British contractor lost the job and contract from Beijing to prove the service which prompted the Chinese government to outsource to Chinese telecomm companies to run & maintain the Fiber Optic network and resulted in China's economic growth and competition. Plus, China was concerned that Britian MI6 intelligence would tap into that network for spying!! China and Russia was already aware that Western intelligence agencies tapping into European and Southeast asian fiber networks and wanted to prevent sabotage to their networks like the Nordstrom incident.
I only knew about the chip wars between the US and China but was completely unaware about the internet cable space war .... This was a good video ! .... learned a lot ! .... 🙏 ....
The US experts continually get it wrong when talking about China, how many times have we heard about a collapsing economy yet each year it continues to grow. Remember when the US refused to let China participate in the 'not quite international' space station program so China made a more advanced station of their own. It will benefit the US to work with China , we know from experience that anything we do not share with China will be made without our help so this trying to cut China out of everything ends up being disadvantageous to us and incentivises China to make their own.
China is offering an increasingly robust and, most importantly, non-American alternative to the global hegemony and security apparatus of America. This is undeniably a good thing. America's global hegemony has only worsened living conditions and material realities throughout its imperial reign: China offering a peaceable alternative is a necessary good thing, and counterbalances America's own psychopathy.
The propaganda narratives are so OD these days😅 "we beliebe in free trade until you threaten our monopoly" is ehat theyre openly saying "We are trying to stop a minor nation from becoming a major one"
thanks to Russia, Edward Joseph Snowden is still alive. the us, the world renowned thief, eavesdropper, cheap crook, is pointing fingers at others so self-righteously. crazy world! by the way, kudos to Team Thanos at Paris.😂😂😂
US: breathes China: breathes The news: China and US on a breathing contest, what will the future be like, can China outbreath the US and why you should be concerned 😂
I think that specialization of technology across different countries is beneficial. China can have the ships, and US can have the chips. It's a win-win for both countries on the premise of free trade, and given that both parties do not exploit the other through espionage.
@@yukiuta We can write a constitution that prevents both sides from having it all. While it's true that it's human nature for one to want everything, we don't have to succumb to our nature
well whatever you do politicians don't start manufacturing the things we need in America that's too easy it would mean jobs in America and take care of security concerns at the same time
Some of these shots, like the hull storage at 5:33, are incredibly interesting. Opposed to the standard big power bickering that just makes everything more expensive for consumers, with fiber optic cables, redundancy is actually a huge advantage.
