The Trouble With Being Born: Cioran on Death, Consciousness, and Antinatalism 

It’s the former. My bad. Thanks for pointing it out!

@@AheadOfTheCurveVideos 🙌Enjoyed the vid anyway!☺️

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You know you could talk matters into you're own hands, just saying 😉

Absolutely agree

Рано или поздно, все мы вернёмся во тьму, каждого из нас в конце нашего жизненного пути будет ждать избавление от сознания или существования

​@h.p.lovecraft936 Gosh, you're those type of people we find around places like these unfortunately.

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Sadly true...

Damn😅

Fax 😭

“After copulation, mankind hears the devil’s laughter.” Arthur Schopenhauer

I applaud your effort.

Congratulations

Why don't you self-delete?

@@h.p.lovecraft936 because it goes against our programming, so to speak. Most of us, unable and unwilling to commit suicide, do our best not to make things worse.

@h.p.lovecraft936 why don't you? Whatever your reasoning, is probably mine and everyone else's. I exist so I will make the best of it. Doesn't mean I need to bring anyone else into existence.

CONAN MENTIONED ✊️👍💪

Read D. Benatar's ANTINATALISM, it is complicated?

Agree

In full agreement.

O wearisome condition of humanity! Born under one law, to another bound; Vainly begot and yet forbidden vanity; Created sick, commanded to be sound. What meaneth nature by these diverse laws? Passion and reason, self-division cause. Is it the mark or majesty of power To make offenses that it may forgive?

By other sickly ones. Actors in a tragic play.

Fulke Greville

no we are born into a sick world and the signs of recovery are diagnosed as illness

Agreed.

Sure there are. They just can’t be demonstrated to be based on verifiable facts.

Agreed!

@@CrazyLinguiniLegsok breeder

@@SnostyTheFrowman “breeder”? Ohhh, you’re sooo edgy, joshymoshy.

@@CrazyLinguiniLegsou’re a murderous parent who is responsible for killing this planet. You should be jailed for your idiotic crime

he got to be a poetic neet in his time. bless him.

Thanks for watching Lucio! Which of his that you mentioned would you recommend most? I’ve only read this one and A Short History of Decay.

I think the one with the reclining nude in the background is by Paul Delvaux, the French Surrealist painter. I’m not absolutely certain, but it looks like his style.

Schopenhauer was morw technical than most give him create for and much more dogmatic than a more purely artistic philosopher like Cioran himself.

They've been told they were born from the supermarket 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅

No one can say no to it either.

Read Shakespeare. It's called Hamlet silly

How'd you know, if your life its merely a piece of everything beyond that we dont know

That's my bad. Thanks for pointing it out. I hope you enjoyed the video 🤘

Open your eyes

Great job, sadly it was too late

I feel bad

EXACLTY! Breediotards have to lie to themselves and everybody and their kids. If they didnt they couldnt be an optimist and they would actually have to hold themselves accountable for the crime of forcing kids into this shytshow! They DONT wanna deal in the truth and reality and be held accountable for their stupid evil actions! I was speaking to this one woman on facebook who had commented on some tragedy or stupid political situation and she commented this world has to be some other worlds hell. I look at her profile and sure enough she had 3 kids. I ask her why did she drag kids here then and to my surprise she said because im selfish. I actually told her i respect her honesty and accountability. Most time they deflect, blame shift and even project on childless people that we are the selfish ones. I told her I already knew the answer to that question before I asked it tho. =============================================== Breediots don't care about reality. They care about ‘hope’. Usually, their happiness comes at other people's expense. These people are evil and abusive. I feel sorry for their children.

Acording to who?

@@thieph Professor Edward Dutton, the evolutionary psychologist

Corralation, not causation. Also, all this does is support the idea of depressive realism. However, all of this aside, depression or dark traid personalities or not, the arguments still stand on their own

@saggyshaggy So, there are a few things to answer your points. If we take your argument that correlation does not equal causation, then you are arguing that rather than people who are high in psychopathy, machiavellianism, and depression adopting antinatalism that adopting Antinatalism itself is causing people to become psychopathic, machiavellian and depressed. That seems unlikely, but if it was true, it would be an even more damning argument against Antinatalism. Depressive realism was a hypothesis that turned out not to be true. The idea was that depressed people see the world more realistically. However, further studies showed people with depression consistently see events in a negative light regardless of the situation they are in, which is not a rational response to reality. It's true that even if all antinatalists suffer from depression and personality disorders, that that doesn't disprove their arguments, but it should make us question their arguments more closely. Is it a legitimate philosophy or simply an expression of mental illness. 🤔

Yeah sorry about that. Supposed to be “Immortal”. Cheers for watching.

get off the copium and delusionium

@@incorectulpolitic Get off your miserium.

@@Charismaniac get off the copium and delusionium

Thats just proof that from the get go there is no true winner.

This is true, however, there are different forms of consciousness and it still does not provide a good argument in favor of humanity continuing to exist. Clearly, our consciousness is the source of suffering, the more complex nervous system is, the more capacity there is for suffering, so the best thing for humanity is extinction.

@@truthhammer69 You're the first person to ever stump me in regards to the point I made above. You make an excellent point!! I've been sharing my "if it weren't this life then it would have been some other life" view (exposing the futility of the Asymmetry Argument due to Generic Subjective Continuity) for a while (years), and you're the first to come up with a rebuttal that actually faces the problem GSC causes. Well done. ... I'm digesting what you've written now... Consciousness certainly is the means in which conscious beings suffer, and humans definitely do-as far as we can tell-have the most complex conscious experiences that lead to existential dread, etc... But if all human life went extinct, then there'd only be the consciousness provided by the brains that remain: animal brains and perhaps insect brains too... And perhaps alien brains out there somewhere... And perhaps some planets have aliens that have conscious experience that's much much worse than humans, and living lives far worse... But we can't know that. But we do see the horrors of wild animal's lives... So the question comes down to: would you rather be a human or an animal or insect? Out of those lives, I'd personally choose to be a human... I gringe at the idea of being torn to shreds alive by a crocodile or lions... Or the millions of other horrors wild animals endure... As for humans not having any reason to exist: I think of a scenario where our engineering abilities could give us the ability to spare a planet that's experiencing a hellish lifestyle (much much much worse than ours) from continued existence. And help us travel to better places, and do many other things to improve life here on Earth and elsewhere. Do we really want these capabilities that evolution has created to be lost forever? I think they could serve a greater good when we accept GSC (the point I made in my original comment).

If there is no life, there's no consciousness, you fool. A very simple concept.

@@francisdec1615 it went over your head.

@@naturalisted1714 You are posting this bullshit over and over again. It isn't based in science.