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How is life a gift if we have to pay for everything here? Nobody pays for a gift.

Life is not a *gift.* Gifts can be declined, or returned. Life is an imposition that no one ever asked for.

My problem is, once this alleged "gift" was dumped on me, everyone tells me I'm ungrateful for not wanting it, even though the cost of receiving it is a lifetime of wage slavery. The gas lighting coming from those natalist breeders is disgusting.

Life is bullshit

It makes me laugh when people say that life is a gift. According to the World Health Organization, roughly 700,000 people around the globe commit suicide every year. That amounts to 1 person every 40-45 seconds. I wish more people took that statistic into consideration before they proclaim life is a gift.

"A gift that you cant give away is not a gift any longer but a burden. " Philip Nitschke

"Life is a gift!" A death sentence is a really weird thing to presume to gift someone.

If someone tells me that life is a gift, I counter with: "There are shitty gifts, and I think life is one of them."

A 'gift' that's full of suffering and hardship. Such a stupid saying.

"Life is a gift" OFCOZ is all about the parents. The PARENTS want a person, a kid as a "gift" so they can order him around, do as parents say etc. Life is not a gift to the kid, it is a gift to the parents. And therefore parents are entitled to discard the kids whenever they want to, spank them, punish them etc.

It's not a gift at all. More of a curse.

It has always fascinated me how people will use the phrase "Be grateful for the life you have," in response to somebody else having it worse, while being totally oblivious to the moral judgment implicit in the phrase itself. Do they not realize the antinatalist nature of such a statement?

Existence is painful, suffering and dangerous.

Life is a turd wrapped up in a gift.

I HATE receiving gifts. I’m a ‘difficult’ person (low fat whole food plant based vegan & minimalist), not a rude one, but getting stuff I don’t need or want? I ask people to donate to local animal sanctuaries that need all the help in the world. So life is a gift? Only if it helps those in need. Does life do that? No, it causes the pain, suffering, unfairness, violence and sadness.

A gift with a massive gift tax.

Life is the most EVIL "gift" that somebody can give.

Yes, Lawrence, brilliant! And also, as someone said somewhere in 2004: "You have inherited, as an heirloom, a sealed box. You cannot open it, and you are not certain what is in it. There are two possibilities. The box may contain valuable jewellery. For all you know, this is the more likely alternative. But you may be wrong. The box may also contain explosives, which are set to go off when it is opened. As far as you can figure, this chance is smaller, but it is realistic. You have a choice. You can keep the box to yourself, and never open it. Alternatively, you can give it to a complete stranger as a gift. If you give it away, the recipient cannot help but open it, although she does not know about the contents. If the box contains jewellery, she is lucky-she can keep it or sell it and buy things she would not otherwise have afforded. If it contains explosives, she is unlucky-she will be badly injured for life. Should you give the box to a complete stranger or not?"🙃

it actually caters to the need and desires of the giver

All those statements like "life is a gift" and crap like that, are rooted in religion where or believe in what I say or " you will go to hell" thing.

I don't consider life a gift, it's more like an consequence.

how can life be a gift when we all die in the end pointless exsitence suffer grow old for no good reason it serves no purpose I'm antinatalist vegan

I think someone can be grateful in a general sense for their life, and still recognize the selfishness and bad thinking in their parents' decision to force it on them.

you have no will or choice in the matter. You’re forcibly thrust into something called Life and expected to enjoy it. can we really call that a gift?. it is like the question, to be or not to be, a question no one has ever asked before and no one will since there is nothing voluntary about coming into existence.

Ironically enough, "gift", means "poison" (i.e. "giftgas" is poison gas) in German, and in Swedish "gift" can mean either poison, toxin, or, get this: married, wedded, i.e. "to marry (someone) is "att gifta", etc. -- surely a coincidence! *cough*

They called Life is a gift 🎁 because no one knows not even giver or receiver what is inside that gift box of life so the giver is very exited to know what is inside the gift box so he gives that life gift box to someone who doesn't exist to see what is inside the gift box of life. Life is gift box with full of uncertainty as no one knows what is going to happen to the person who is recieving that gift so some people get lots of suffering while others may get lots of pleasure thus it's all depends on luck. But every receiver of life gift box dies in the end

Life is an imposition. I agree with Mr. Anton. Great video.

a gift is hardly a gift if its painfully ripped out of your hands almost immediately. life is the gift of a sadist

really hate when some says is grateful. a person is grateful when is receiving something extra which , the other person, is just giving to them without having to do it but, what are we getting extra in this case? or what are we getting? we are getting nothing. why should we feel grateful for getting the bare minimum to survive? . why should we be grateful for anything. they did not do us a favor by putting us in this damn place and we are not getting anything extra as some gesture of kindness from anyone. even worse, the BARE minimum is not even free. you need to become a slave to get it. all we have, all we get, we need to become SLAVES in order to get it, no one is giving anything away for free. nothing at all. so why should anyone be grateful for this crap? and why should anyone say is grateful for the bare minimum they were able to obtain?. to add insult to injury, there is absolutely no need to put one more human this place.

The gifting concept only works if the recipient truly wants that gift, which is impossible in the example of procreation. Geez, I can't count how many times I got unwanted gifts. Life itself being the worst of them all. Nobody ever asked me what I wanted before they gave me a gift. And nope, I don't want any gifts. I just want CASH 😄😄😄

Thanks Lawrence! You do important work.

In some parts ot the world parents expect their child to take care of them by sending money when you get a job. Essentially the gift is making you work for their wellbeing.

The best thing in the life is that only have experienced it, we can fully realize its miseries and wretchedness

Life is a gift - people don’t want to see the price tag.

I like this and the way you explained it. It makes more sense now. I had a "Friend" tell me life was a gift once... People are dumb, I swear to gosh...

Life is not a gift, life is a responsibility.

Thanks for this thoughtful breakdown, really appreciate some of the distinctions you've made here. Had to pause for the unexpected giggle fit that the concept of leaving a python in someone's house incited (:

why would people put a person in a place where you constantly need to be crossing your fingers to not lose your job or get into an accident or any of all the bad things that can happen to you. a place where you need to constantly be begging to your imaginary all powerful friend to protect you from all the misfortune that can fall on you because, you know, this is such a wonderful paradise that you need an all powerful friend to protect you from harm. a place where you are supposed to say you are blessed because you won the cosmic lottery and are not suffering from some serious illness or pain, or you were not born in a shit hole and are not eating garbage, or you do not need to work as a child in order to have some crumbles to eat. but you need to be grateful for this. you must be grateful for this? how does that make sense and why would you subject another person, a person you say you love, to this place?. and what about those that were not blessed? what about them? F them? tough luck? that is life? how do you justify that they must bear all kind of pains and suffering but, who cares right? you were blessed and that is all that matters. why the stupid god blesses some but not others? and why are religious and non religious people ok with others not being blessed?

I hate the fact that Sam Harris equated anti natalism with pro mortalism and like the fact that David Benatar told him in their debate/conversation that sometimes there may be a time where you have to commit suicide.

if i didn't have family or close friends i would have pretty much nothing to stop me from killing myself if i really was feeling like it wich i have in the past, so basically i am trapped in this whole societal structure that i never wanted to be a part of

You only give a gift to someone who exists. A child is only a gift (not always) for those who make it. The child is nothing more than a slave. Procreation is the mother of all crimes, so how can it be a (pre-)gift for the person on whom it is perpetrated? 8- Life is a journey on an unknown, dangerous and warlike planet. Since the gift is a journey, will it be completely safe, and will I have all possible comforts, food, accommodation, transport, constant and complete well-being, and will it be really interesting for me, and above all, since there is no return, will it be very long under these conditions? _

Parents are the meanest madafakas 😢😢😢

Life is suffering. I didnt ask to be here.

A girt that MOST ot us DON'T WANT

A girf of HELL without being buried and dead

Can I trade it back in with the receipt and get a refund?

Thanks so much to the link to David Benatar's Aeon article.

I just saw the etymology of gift. It's just something that's given. Makes sense. To gift something is just to give something. We added the connotation later that getting something is good. So stating 'life is a gift' ie. life is given, is merely stating the obvious.

I gotta make a book out of this content. Thanks for the amazing insight

Another excellent video sir , gave me new insight into this "life is a gift" quote. 🐯

I even ignore such a comment, because it's just made by AI/NPC it has no value at all and we shouldn't even acknowlegde such a creature that said something like that. Most people are stuck within their own instincts, Anti-Natalism will only be understand by the minority and will never spread like anykind of populaire religion, most people don't have kids these days, because of the costs, so child free people are on the rise and maybe Anti-Natalism too, and that's good, but people in generally choose what's in their own best self-interest and that's being child-free, I just noticed that a lot, because if you talk more deeply about Anti-Natalism with child-free people they won't agree with you for 100%, but they know were you coming from, at least more than people who want to have kids and maybe even get them, Anti-Natalist should understand that most people use cognitive dissonance, have Stockholm Sydrome because of their parents, use self-deception & lies and some even have symptoms of anosognosia, most people can't understand or handle Anti-Natalism, because it makes them depressed, people in general also have an ego, so they will act out on you by saying: Oh yeah? Bet I will be the best parent ever? Comments like that you can maybe exspect or they act on an emotionally, mentally or even physically violent way towards you, if you tell them, that having kids isn't good.

The Trojan Horse was a gift, too, so… Timeo parentes et dona ferentes.

Not really more like a blight/course

10/10 👏

Great stuff

Good stuff 🐥💚

great video

Pls make a video on the argument "antinatalism isn't practical, because people will never agree with it".

8:40 i am curious, can you list what are those few reasons that are for the sake of the child?

I’m thankful for the present 💝

Lol where is the exchange counter i don't like this gift 😂

Honestly this universe is so cures and messed up

Organic life as we know it is a high-stakes scenario where "novelty" occurs from out of this mysterious unknowable(?) maelstrom that some call the Kundalini, from which may be derived intensive learning (& maybe a fine thrill or two along the way). It's not hard for me to imagine a "cosmic queue" of minds eagerly awaiting their shot at this plane of existence, warts and all. And I'm not even consciously trying to transmute gratitude, it all just fascinates me. I was expecting your statement to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek but the fact that you assert it with a straight face might be even more hilarious to me. Even if I disagree I have a soft spot for this sort of brazen neurodivergent thinking. Well done lol

While many consider life a gift, it's crucial to evaluate this assertion with logic and critical thinking. The core of antinatalism argues against the assumption that life is inherently good for everyone. First, consent is a fundamental principle in ethics. No one can consent to being born, which inherently makes the act of bringing someone into existence ethically questionable. Secondly, the presence of suffering in life is inevitable, ranging from minor inconveniences to severe trauma and illness. If we accept the premise that causing unnecessary suffering is wrong, then bringing someone into a world where suffering is guaranteed seems contradictory to this ethical stance. Furthermore, the "life is a gift" argument often overlooks the subjective nature of life experiences. What is considered a gift for one might be a burden for another, depending on their life circumstances and the suffering they endure. By reframing our perspective, we can see that not imposing life can also be seen as an act of sparing potential beings from the inherent harms of existence. Thus, while the sentiment that life is a gift may come from a place of appreciation, it does not universally apply as a rational justification for procreation, especially when considered under the lens of ethical consent and the inevitability of suffering.

Not so fast, lets de bunk the de bunk because Life is a gift at [G] as the time of "was" where eternal life is at the tree of LIFE in curved light outside of the O pen where stars are R's when O god is the image of god made in gods image must be light curved now open at G. G If T G IF you cross [T] to stay where Magic as "AM G I C back where we came from, up ahead, but you do not want to go back there if you are saved inside the G because those return again to another IS..in the past. Eternal Life at the tree of LIFE.. IS A GIFT.. because even those evil, or those good and evil will return as a second coming of faith [ISIS and ISIL] and those become good the next time of six from being evil the first time of six [Moses was the G re at who-re now] "We have the power to fulfill" means do good and evil one time {FUL] good and evil F U wed as L returns again another time[s] as F I LL adds the second L as good and good wed that should be done now or that happens anyway next but as a slave. So eternal Life is a gift because God made a way for sinners to make it there. IF they have no evil they cross to G to stay, but a pale horse [good and evil mixed] goes inside G corded in lower form [belly of whale] and then return to a new earth at IS again as good and find god next time of six so all are saved, but half at D [is two come] inside the De will come back to G inside to return again while love has no evil side and is outside the O Pen. [earth at relative size to space] Jeremiah 29:10 are those who return as a second coming of faith will now believe in god laws this time {Jesus returns]. Give and receive is false and was made to hide what is passed between, because receive hides deceive as the true pair while Give has Thanks to show what was shared.

Ill have one depresso please!

This video isn't a gift

the title in itself is the satire.

I have a friend that tells me that life is a gift and I need to look at everything through positive eyes

10:33 mere existence SHOULD satisfy you, you SHOULD apperciate your being in time, that doesnt mean you cant loose that legitimate ability

The bugman fears vitality

Let me put it this way, why do you always imagine Sysiphus unhappy?

I have a different view, you think existence of an individual who is born has no say in choosing their life. I accept , and i am grateful , to be alive . The phrase to happy be thankful , i am happy for the opportunity to be alive , you see.

You're not _forced_ to come into existence anymore than you might have been _forced_ to remain non-existent, had you not been born. Coercion necessarily requires the person being acted upon is withholding consent , NOT just that they are technically unable to give explicit consent. You don't neglect changing a baby's nappy because it didn't give you consent. You don't sue your parents because they _forced_ you to brush your teeth when you were a kid. There's is the reasonable expectation of consent in many cases.

Life is a gift for alphas for sure

We are human beings and part of being a human is that we procreate. It’s part of nature, so I understand if some people don’t think life is a gift, but that doesn’t mean life is meaningless. It’s boring to hear a person that is able bodied complain for his or her existence, these people are so immature.

It's internally incoherent to speak of coercing someone to start existing. It's meaningless to speak of subjecting a non-existent person to any form of coercion because ... well, they don't exist.

Your life is a miracle, a cosmic anomaly that exist despite the universe is infinitely hostile and dangerous. Everything is trying to destroy life. You are free, you are meaningful, you are a miracle. You just need to realize it.

Those who blame on taxes and rent, go live in the jungle. C'mon guys, is better having life than never existed, if u don't want don't call it a gift but we all gotta be gratefull

The gift that keeps on billing ✉️ 📬

Eh i don't take any antinatalist seriously unless they have stayed true to their belief and done the deed to themselves. Else they are just yapping to have an edgy viewpoint.

nothings worse than seeing someone crying sour grapes!

One first has to exist in order to receive a gift.

Honestly this universe is so cures and messed up