The true Origins of Wing Chun Part 1 

Thank God for Sifu Sergio..One of the FEW true Wing Chun historians and practitioners.! Clearing the air and creating clarity !!!

I cannot believe this video is already 8 years old. I remember when I first found Sifu Sergio on RU-vid. I watched every video on this channel and it still blows my mind. I've been studying WingTsun for almost 6 years at this point and I have always wanted to train with you Sifu. If you ever come to Houston, Texas please let me know before you do and I would absolutely love to meet you and train with you. Maybe you could give me some info on how I could travel and meet you, possibly over the summer of 2023? Thanks again for all the knowledge.

Some people prefer to believe in legends than in facts. Thanks for sharing the truth, Sifú

Thank you Sifu Sergio -- appreciate all the hard work you do for expanding the knowledge of Wing Tsun.

Wow real interesting stuff. Can't wait for part 2 I was one of Paul Hawkes top students many years ago and he was taught by James Sinclair Many thanks Sifu Sergio

This is gold! I'm already over excited for part 2! Keep em comin brother.

Y15合實雙掌穿心貫。 Joining the two palms drive through the heart. Is the writing from 1850 siu Lin tau kuit describing the white crane move @ 9.15

thanks sifu. your passion to question and search for the truth is inspiring. most of us are just follow and doctrine by own system.

Sifu Sergio, you will make a lot of people uncomfortable. But I am sure you see that coming. Your research is very in depth. Good work!

Absolutely amazing idea.. bold.. I trust you and your ideas and knowledge.. more than style in particular, I feel that the pioneers made it based more on the application of it, then it was broken down into a teachable martial arts style once they had all the bugs worked out, but by the time Bruce Lee came around it was still being developed in my opinion, Bruce wong sheung Leung and Gary Lam all made contributions.. Yipman was only one practitioner, yip fook choy does wing chun from a different lineage .. but ya, economic motion and forward pressing attacks and hard and soft energy, but look at the 4 basic techniques? Bong ? Fook? Fook obviously comes from crane.. bong I’ve seen in mantis .. PAK SAO I’ve seen in mantis although they use it as a hit not a deflection.. just ideas to comment on🐉👌

Everything has to come from something. What you say make sense a lot. Thank you Sergio.

The two masters that you mention really know their Wing Chun.

Excellent video! I can't thank you enough for putting this video together to share these truths with people. I've been trying to tell people this information but they look at me like I'm crazy. With an accurate understanding of the past and origins of WC you can begin to understand what all of the components of a complete WC system should be. I can't wait for the next video!

I recalled, in 2011 hk headlines newspaper wing chun master kong chi keung with weng chun white crane master lee kong ever touched this subject about the possible close root realtionship among weng chun, weng chun white crane and wing chun as per the similarities from part of thier hand styles, forms....instead of just by their naming and root stories alikeness....

respect brother, for putting truth above a constructed ego serving story

this is what we want real facts, fantastic video sifu

Now for the information sharing idea.. the RED BOAT OPERA is a very good source of history.. futian white crane exactly sifu..

will you ever have these documents of WC lineage and history translated and posted for peer review. If so that would be great.

Great video Sifu! Can't wait to see more of this. You're doing such great work. Unlike much of the other so called Wing Chun masters, you actually know what you're talking about. I've seen a lot of "masters" ong the internet and even I, as a fifth level student at your school in Amsterdam, could prove them wrong. I would like to write so much more as I have really great respect for you, but I'll leave it to this :D.

6:52 Even though I’ve seen this before, it’s such an exciting topic, I had to chime in once again.. From what I can gather.. depending on the element associated with the particular technique, they come from the following.. 1. WHITE CRANE 2. MANTIS 3. SNAKE 4. PAK-MEI (chum-kiu) bridge seeking and BUI-GEE “snake” BONG-SAO “mantis” PAK-SAO “mantis” FOOK-SAO “cranes wing” covering controlling hands. But, just about all punching comes from CHOY LEE FUT and other LONG FIST STYLES that use vertical punching instead of the SHAOLIN FIST. However, I should note, we kept the PING CHOY as well.. although not as heavy of use.

I’m starting to think that wong showing Leung might have been the best ever.. Gary Lam is just the same or better..but for that time.. he was unbelievable!

itl be interesting to see how william chueng veiws are portrayed in this vid i alwaze liked his footwork but i like all syles of martial arts cant wait for part 2

Thanks for uploading

Complimenti per il lavoro che a fatto è che sta facendo. La ricerca della verità della tradizionalita , per non dimenticare.

Fantastic

Ich bin sehr beeindruckt von deiner Arbeit Sifu Sergio. Sehr interessant zum sehen woher Wing Chun kommt und wie es sich verändert hat. Leider wurden viele Techniken , Bewegungen , Formen vergessen oder auch nicht verstanden.

Yes,, my research shows similar signs so, as what you excerpted in yr video with the video of master Lee kong,s demo of fujian white cran - twelve sections strength.... this is one of the good examples......

Please remember all you wing chun practitioners that you must learn each system (I use this very VERY loosely) to find the origin of the "WHY" in wing chun. It isn't about this at that, its about why we choose to fit in to humanity, and why we equip ourselves to survive in the world.

Present the evidence please.

very interesting seeing the similarities of the white crain technique and the siu nim tau form cant wait for part 2 :)

what happened to the comment I made here last week? It wasn't offensive or anything like that so I don't think it would have been deleted. It simply said that I know there are still high hands in China as I trained with some of the Cho family there last year and then asked if you'd met my sifu, ku choi wah. weird that it's gone missing.

I thank you for ur videos in all this research of the history of wing chun kung. It's good to know different points of views on this subject.

you are so right.... man why didn't even think about that....

I know, this may sound foolish, but: is (/will there be) a german version of your book? As a historian I can only imagine how difficult it must have been to gather the sourcer, find evidence or check different strains of oral tradition.

Did you ever release that book? Would love to read it!

Thank you for this.

I'd agree, a lot of kung fu has been lost through China's turbulent past. However, there are still some high hands in China. I was there training with some Cho family masters last year. Sifu Sergio, I kow you like to travel and meet masters from various lineages. Have you ever met my Sifu, Master ku Choi Wah?

Very interesting! Can't wait for the next one. Come to Australia!

Thank you for your contribution

Thank you, good information as always. Because if your research videos it has sparked a fascination on non-Ipman systems. I am blessed that there is a high quality YKS group of guys here and have touched hand with them. They are good. I have touched hands with many IP man systems (commercial and non commercial WC) and for the most part was nothing special, but this is of course I originally come from a IPman system. There is some very interesting differences in my Quest for WC for what I have found. Lots of underground Chinese sifus who teach total opposite but have good logic. I am now on a research mission for qigong in WC in the first form. Thank you for your videos, you have affirmed a lot of research and my questioning about WC and it's history.

Thank you Sifu

Thanxs for sharing your knowledge i believe that there is more than two systems i also see baqua in the swords form and tai chi in all the forms especially the hip movement. In the second form but for some reason the true understanding of how to use it has been misinterpreted.

thanks Sifu.

Then present the evidence please. 9 out of 11 minutes of the video is you talking about how good your research and evidence is and the last 2 minutes is two pictures and a video. Should be the other way round. Looking forward for part 2. Also doesn't the white crane stuff looks bit like that black flag wc stuff with all the slapping movements ?

Thank you, love it.

This I would like to say is common knowledge but as you state there are so many poor Wing Chun school's with little experience they believe and still have written on their websites the ridiculous story about the nun seeing 2 animals fighting. Our last uploaded highlights some of the links with other styles. Wing Chun practioners should open their eyes as they are missing out. One self proclaimed master who claims he is the only "master" in the UK teaching authentic Wing Tsun in Bromley won't even allow his students to explore other arts. Such a shame Wing Tsun practioners are so blind.

Part 2?

I love how you have looked be on the comercial fast food version of the the art we all want to learn. Hope you keep it going, and cant wait to see your boom, and more on your site. Thanks Sifu, great stuff, so the photos, and the history of leung bik is all made up? On What proof may i find out more on this? Thanks, your new student, j

Situ where have you gone been 10 years

One of the things I find interesting is that the closer any Okinawan karate style is to its Fujian / Foshan roots, the more obscure the early history of that style seems to be (where the master studied and for how long etc). Tell people you trained as a uchi-deshi in Japan in the 1970s and you had better have documented proof, including photos of yourself with acknowledged black belts from that era, but it would seem that you can put 'Fujian White Crane' on your CV with very little to back that up. When Chinese historians learn to document historical fact without embellishment or fear of reprisals - and I see nothing to believe that the CCP is any different to previous 'dynasties' - I'll be a lot more inclined to read the background to Wing Chun or any other style. Sadly, they aren't alone in this, as I'm sure you're aware, but I'm unaware of any Japanese martial artist who claims to have supernatural powers (Aikido and ki 'masters' notwithstanding). Even Muay Thai, arguably one of the first 'put up or shut up' martial arts in Southeast Asia, seems to have a mystical aspect for many Thais and the wai kru is just one aspect of that. Who am I to say that a Silat master cant bend the laws of physics (!) - chants and incantations have attracted Westerners for decades, but the mythology only serves to deepen the fog around many (often hotly disputed) 'facts' from an era where many things were passed down orally. In any case, you certainly wouldn't be the first Westerner to try to peer through that fog: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donn_F._Draeger Draeger's 'Asian Fighting Arts' remains a classic to this day, and its an enjoyable read, but I may as well have been reading 'The History of Life on Mars' for all the background I had when I first picked the book up. Even in Draeger's era, there were men willing to cash in on the West's ignorance of what real martial arts looked like - I guess some things remain eternal where there is a buck to be made. Thanks for the video.

It do feel like there's some Tai chi and mantis in there

Great video! Only something overall (not specific for this video, just overall): To write the chinese names in 3 single names is a little bit outdated. Today in 2021 the western world has adopted to writhe cantonese and korea names with hyphen, and mandarin names together. From today´s standards, Wong Shun Leung should be written as: Wong Shun-leung or Shun-Leung in cantonese and Huang Chunliang in mandarin (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Shun-leung) Same with other names like Shan Wah-shun or Yim Wing-chun (mandarin Yan Yongchun) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yim_Wing-chun en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Wah-shun Not important but maybe interesting for some people.

It can only be written one way. Why does everyone want to clarify . Repeat. Repeat. Click bate. Nothing new

Aloha from Hawaii 😉 🤙

You have omitted the fact that Yip Man also studied from none other than one of Dr. Leung Jan's sons.....Leung Bik! That's what GM YIp Chun says believe it or not.

yes serrggio yes now tel a me how llong a hav u felt a dat way serrggio plees tel us hmmmmm.

wing chun comes from the red boat opera please learn it is the martialart of the opera playing people by evidence

Ng Mui learned it from a one armed nun (dong bei sun lee) short strike boxing it was called.

Wing chun originated from the scientific principle of human mechanics. As we do not primarily fight with Monkey's, Tigers, Cranes, Dragons or Snakes, the impetus for wing chun came from this idea of fighting with humans and fitting the techniques to human movement and effortless action. In reality, the system was developed from what came before i.e. temple Kung Fu and is steeped in the principles, concepts and observations of the that came before. So, to find the origin of wing chun one must first understand why the techniques of wing chun were chosen (N.B. to fit with human movement) and why the progenitors of the wing chun system made it a peoples art of fighting rather than an established system.

BTW. I live on west coast of usa in a college town... I talked to a Chinese student of a Tai Chi master (he said he could not say his name).... He said the communist party never outlawed kung fu and the boxer rebellion never happened.... mmmm'kay. whierd. we have vastly varying information my friends. lets talk.

i thought karate is based on white crane.....

In Hong Kong was no cultural revolution it was british, so there is no excuse for them.

I wonder why my 2nd comment posted on 3 March, has be3n removed? It is a fair and true facts as i excerpted from the hk headlines newspaper dated june 2011... as such, i wont add any comments and info for yr channel anymore. Beside,s, you said, it was no leug bik but was Yuen Kay shan in grandmaster yip man's wingchun history, this is only yr personal assumption but not yet into any solid proof or written facts and documents for he history rewrite, or, you tryig to prove grandmaster yip man was a liar on 5his?? Pls do delete all my uploaded coments....

netter Mann, netter Haarschnitt :)

Wing Chun is origin from the Shaolin Temple

Sergio...wingchun origins from shaolin Yim wing chun added more so does yip man. Most chinese kungfu origin from shaolin. The most powerful is still real taichi / gigong. Dont think other arts can defeat taichi in street fight.

in order to know the true story of Cho Ga Wing Chun history, Sifu Segio this time you founded the wrong person! You have totally no idea with what about us.