Been riding and racing dirt bikes for over 20 years. You dont need no stinking clutch for changing gears. Never had a single transmission issues in any bike ever.
Ya you know, I'll bet that everyone that made those stupid idiotic comments have never even rode or owned a dirtbike at all. How the hell do you think the pro riders can go thru the gears so fast? It's a proven fact that almost anything with a manual transmission can be shifted without a clutch and when done right it absolutely will not hurt it one bit!
You are right pal NO CLUTCH lol there is a third reason to use it though other the stop and start you need the break to break while in the air to sort yourself out 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Haha great video!😂 I fully agree with you. Some people that don’t even know how a dirtbike gear box works are talking as if they know whats good or bad for it
bro im 100% with you. I rarely use the clutch to change gears, when im just cruising i might without knowing but most commonly when riding hard or racing ill just bang gears while on full throttle without using the clutch, with 127 hours of doing that on a 450 it still has no signs of wear. ITS LITERALLY IN THE MANUAL THAT THE CLUTCH IT USED TO "MODULATE THE POWER" not change gear. Amazing video as always man
I had fun making this. Like I say, ride how you wanna ride. I like to use no clutch and that's my preference but when people keep saying it will destroy my transmission.....enough is enough haha. I guess the debate will never end
When I saw that video I felt that it has to be damaging your transmission to shift without clutch. Same thing as alot of other people were thinking. Instead of commenting though I did some research and it turns out I was wrong. I think the reason is alot of people like me (Who doesnt know exactly how a transmission works) have kind of the same theory about what's going on in the transmission when you're pulling the clutch or changing gears. But the point is we obviously doesnt know how it works and I don't get why some people are trying to argue about something they don't understand until they've done atleast some research.
I agree with you on this, if done properly, clutchless shifting is a breeze and wont damage anything, using clutch excessively wears plates, springs and generates alot of unwanted heat.
I’ve been riding since I was 7 or 8 and I was taught by my dad who was a mechanic to not use clutch while shifting and and downshifting. I’m 44 now and after numerous bikes included dirt bikes and Harley’s I have never had a transmission go bad. I think those people don’t know any better but think they know everything! Lol
I actually taught myself how to ride a motorcycle using this method at 14 years old because it was hard for me to reach the clutch, so I just happened to try up shifting clutchless and it worked fine and nothing bad ever happened to the few different bikes I rode that way. 😉
Was hoping you were going to discuss shifting with the kick starter. In my comment on last vid I fully explain the science of why it works. (It’s the top liked comment btw) plz make vid on this method.
Had a feeling this video was bound to pop up haha. I was rather fed up with replying to people who wanted to argue why clutchless shifting is bad on a bike when they couldn’t provide any logical conclusion as to why it is necessary to use the clutch while shifting. But you made a great point in this video. Ride your own bike how you want to, shift how you want to. I tried to explain to people that if you don’t use the clutch while shifting, it’s not going to cause any harm. But some people will still argue until they are blue in the face for no other reason than to feel the satisfaction that they are somehow superior in their self-proclaimed knowledge. Can’t please everyone I suppose.
Very good video, admiting to what you actually were wrong about is what I liked the most. People so rarely do that these days and if you can't admit to being wrong sometimes you will never be right. Subscribed.
hey can you help me out im 25 and just getting into dirt-bikes what would you recommend 125 or 250f ? was looking at the 125 but power band looks crazy
Depends on where your riding. A yz250f is a track bike and is difficult on trails. A yz250fx is great on track and trail. And very easy to ride. Yz250fx would be my choice. Unless you plan to ride mx only.
Let me be clear. It’s not impossible on trails. Just not as easy especially for a beginner on trails. It will be a rougher ride and more prone to stalling when navigating tight areas.
Man people just need to just ride lol... I keep it pinned and and pull the clutch in just enough to unload the transmission and grab the gear and let the clutch out. 2 stroke s for life! 🤙
Tbh ur dirt bike do what you want with it main thing is to have fun whatever u do on RU-vid it’s gonna get some hate just ignore it and keep doing what ur doing 👍
Just had a guy on my channel ask about clutch-less shifting on the Royal Enfield Himalayan. After watching this... um, yeah... I think I'll stay away from that topic. I almost wonder if he was knowingly walking me into a nightmare. Never trust a user with a wildly grinning chimpanzee as his profile pic. That's what I always say. Anyway, entertaining couple minutes. Cheers!
I've never used the clutch after 1st gear. Never had transmission issues. I don't understand the die-hard "you must use the clutch or else destroy your bike" people. Perhaps certain bikes don't handle it as well
do you change gears 2 at a time? well up at least🤣 i will often catch myself doing this... why i don't know but is it harmful to my transmission or clutch?
Response comment to the response video..lol. First, that kid you referenced was like 19 yrs and freshly out of mechanic school about two weeks ago. Second, you never mentioned what the manufacturer said. Let's get a video call setup with a bike manufacturer.. 😂
I totally agree with you. I dont use clutch for past 25 years in supersport , motocross and enduro bikes. Never had a problem with transmition or never had yo replace clutch plates. Its actually benefitial less friction on clutch plates means less heat and less clutch dust floating in the engine oil. If you want to long life of your engine dont use clutch to change gears.
It’s hard to convince people but it’s true. A lot of people are stuck in the mindset that the clutch is there for changing gears but it’s not. Thanks for the comment buddy 👍
I am 45 years old got my first bike when I was 5 since my first bike with a clutch I normally use the clutch to start and stop. With only one bad transmission.
I raced dirt bikes at a high level for 15years. Most everyone including myself do not use the clutch mainly when shifting up. Yes I’m sure it can do damage.. still most racers don’t use it.
R G when you are a top tier racer using the clutch to shift is to slow nobody does it. I’ve been slammin gears for 20years with no serious problems. Being a racer we constantly replace parts and most of us buy new bikes every year.
R G the transmission on dirt bikes is designed to be that way, most cars like economy vehicles won’t let you do this because the way the transmission is set up. Not using the clutch is faster and easier no matter who you are, and if you’re using a vehicle there are gonna be parts that get damaged over time regardless. After driving thousands and thousands of miles eventually your engine is gonna give up, even if you never beat on it, because that’s just what happens. Whether you’re shifting with or without the clutch on a dirtbike, the transmission is designed specifically so you don’t have to use the clutch. You’re gonna cause damage to the transmission little by little when you use the clutch or not anyway because the clutch is a friction plate, when it collides together it grinds away little by little
Since things have gone mainly 4 stroke there's less need for all that clutch feathering. Most racers and hardcore riders I know don't use the clutch for up shifting. Some don't use it for down shifting. These aren't rookies. They're top class riders. But, do you.
90% off the coments in the vid are kids that never opend a transmission... A Motocycle Transmission is build to change gear without clutch, the clutch is only for start and stop
@@Easystreet1234 you're faster iff you don't, every time you use the clutch the clutchplates get more wore out. Just go slowly on it and just try it out
I'm currently building a slider (speedway bike) for my son. You don't have a traditional gear shift because when the bike is crossed up and laid down in the corners, there's no room for your foot. The up shift is spring-loaded on a cable to a handle bar lever separateto the clutch lever. You physically can't use the clutch to shift gears with this set up. All the people arguing with you in the comments just don't know what they're talking about dude. You tried to.teach them but they chose ignorance.
Lol about that one person commenting no mechanic would say not to use a clutch. I bought my first bike at 15 it was a 1973 Kawasaki f7 175 and right before I left he yelled “Oh I forgot! Once you get the hang of the RPMS DO NOT USE THE CLUTCH WHEN SHIFTING.” And I’m not saying this was some biased RU-vid mechanic either. He was from a smaller town called Galesburg in Michigan.
Lol welcome to RU-vid, you have made it big time! At least you’re getting attention, I’m still struggling to get more than 130 subs 🙄 there always a know it all no matter what, don’t take it to heart, water off a ducks back keep doing what you’re doing as it is working 👍🏻
Yeah it don't bother me that's why I tried to make light of it. The comment section is a fun thing to read haha. You will get there buddy. I had 123 subs for 3 years LOL
Flat shifting is the future 👌🏻 my current bike yzf 250 I do not shut the power off changing up I shift when the power peaks off at the top of the revs. Only some bikes are built well enough to handle the abuse. (KTM not a chance) But there is precious time and grip to be gained doing this method. Check out his last video you'll hear the seamless gear changing as I'm riding. It's a race bike and I race. Going fast is goal number 1!
excatly right man, it doesnt work on your old ctx200 but on a modern performance bike it is just fine, thats the only way i shift at the track. Also i know you are just messing around about the ktm, a little banter is always fun when you still have to kick start your yz haha
LOL Race an Extreme Enduro and you will know about clutch usage. I do often shift up gears w/o clutch and almost always down gear with clutch. Hasn't killed any bike I have owned in 45+ years of riding.
This is stupid, thier is always a way to shift without clutch. I have done this in a car and dirt bike, hell my brother drives an 18 wheeler 816,747 miles on the clock to be exact. He does not use the clutch after 1st gear and the damn thing has 10 speeds...like you said shift how u want to. Have fun riding!!
You're not wrong about car Transmissions. You just don't know that there's two different types of car transmission. When is called synchromesh it also utilizes Synchro rings that slow the input shaft for easier shifts. The other transmission is unsynchronized like transmission in a road tractors. And just about all heavy equipment. Synchronize Transmissions cannot be shipped without pushing in the clutch. Unsynchronized Transmissions can be shifted if you unload and match RPMs. Speed shifting. The biggest problem between the two is the synchronizers. The synchronizers have to slow the transmission down on a synchronized transmission because of the cut on the gear it's a bevel cut much quieter transmission also. Unsynchronized transmission do not have synchronizers and are straight cut gears much louder Transmissions. You don't want your car to sound like a tractor going down the road this is why you have bevel cut gears with her much quieter and consumers don't like noise or notchy shifting Transmissions. There are some constant mesh car Transmissions that you can skip gears in but it's done in the linkage not inside the transmission. And I believe Formula 1 Transmissions are may just like bike Transmissions I think don't hold me to it
Haven’t had a single person come up with a reasonable scenario where someone has fried their transmission by shifting without the clutch. It’s total bs that you always have to use the clutch. A lot of the pros don’t do it anyways. Really it’s just all preferences of the rider. And it’s my goddamn bike let me do what I want with it for Christ sake! I hate ppl
Good on you for this video 👍🏻…. And good on you coming back on those that obviously don’t quite understand how an motor bike gearbox and clutch works….not expert but an engineer that’s been working on engines and gear boxes for 35 years so seen a bit! But it really not that hard to understand…to change gear it’s all about on loading the gears…and that can be done different ways which you kindly explained very well….and even truck drivers and tractor drivers does it…. I do a bit of it all depending on how and where I am driving.
I have an 04 cr250 and never, used my clutch to shift and I've NEVER had a transmission issue. Also bought the bike new in 04 so that makes 15 years of no clutch use. Just saying
Motorcycle transmissions are sequential similar (identical) mechanics to the ones rally drivers use. Pay attention to how a pro rally driver shifts. Then the truth will be revealed. Oh I forgot that Ken block doesn't know how to drive a rally car properly my bad
Haha you only use two fingers for showing of but change to 4 that fast then fast back to two fingers so no one sees you haha 😂 thought you motor cross boys had strong arms. A true bike rider uses one ☝️ finger for clutch and brake well I do and I’m a skinny 8 & half stone wet. Get yourself to iom tt bro an I’ll take you on green lanes and for a lap. Good video just wTched the no clutch first an replied to it. Good stuff buddy
Personality i change up with the clutch and down the only time i don't use the clutch is down change on long hills but at the end of the day its all personal preference
Good Work man very funny, there's times when and when not to use the clutch its down to the individual rider and if they understand how to get the best from their bike. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Been riding bikes 40yrs never trashed a gearbox yet.
It can be done I think most people gave you crap is because if done correctly it won't mess up you trans but if done incorrectly it most definitely will and Beginners need to learn with the clutch and most people who watch your videos on this subject are Beginners I have tried both ways I see zero benefit to not using it not being an ass at all but even you can agree Beginners have no Business trying to not use the clutch
Who gives a fark if you use 4 fingers to use the clutch. And it was only once lol some people have no life if they complain about shit like that 😅 great vid bro keep them coming 👍👍👍
To all the people saying you need the clutch.. You only need the clutch to take off from a stand still start to be fair.. Lol my house mate snapped his clutch cable riding the other day and kept riding all day with no clutch and had no issues. Those people have no clue honestly..
i remember being 5 years old and my dad saying "just hit it up and hit it down. These things are made for racing, you don't need the clutch unless you need to get the revs back up or do a wheelie." My question is where are your fathers? and if they went out for smokes and never came back, who are these goobers that taught you how to ride?
It amazes me how many people think not using your clutch will destroy your clutch.. That's like saying not driving your car will put miles on it. If it's going to destroy anything it's your transmission but it won't destroy it any quicker than if you did use the clutch.. Pulling the clutch and letting off the throttle do exactly the same thing. The transmission will die eventually either way.
People are funny, it is simple, With rev limiter’s on the new four stroke you can just hold the throttle fully open and put a screw in it so it stays there. Then you can sit with the clutch or without it doesn’t matter you just have to hang on. So it’s really a matter of opinion whether not use the clutch as long as you hold the throttle wide open you just go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go you can change speeds simply by switching gears faster or slower will depend on your ratios.
Most people don't know what the f they are talking about me and my dad both work on bikes and if you do it right like that video said it wont mess up the transmission
The clutch is for riding of and stopping indeed also its for people who dont know what the fuck they are doing 😅 so they dont break shit if its your first time out i recomend using it all the time until you know your bike.
the real reason you can shift without a clutch is because the gears are straight cut with no sincronizers. car tranys are angle cut and have to have sincronizers witch requires a clutch to mesh the gears. it wont hort the tranny to shift clutchless if you match rpm with ground speed. but if you force the shift it will end up chipping a gear. but it boils down to straight cut gears or a angle cut gear weather you can shift clutchless. thats it no other way will work.
The question is @Midwest.MX is out all the haters that put something on that video how many of them actually ride ignore the haters mate there trying to ride with no cluch and can't master it that's why there commenting as they are unlucky and can't do it keep riding the way ya do as we all love seeing ya videos
