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How To Shift On A Dirt Bike The Right Way 

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Do you use a clutch to shift a dirt bike? Ever wondered how to shift on a dirt bike the right way? Shifting with a Clutch or without a clutch, here you will find 4 different ways to shift your dirt bike so you can chose which one suits you better.
1. Let off the throttle, clutch in, change gear
2. Stay on the throttle, don't let off, clutch in, change gear.
3. Let off the throttle, change gear (without using clutch)
4. Full throttle, near the limiter change gear (without clutch)
These are the 4 different ways you can change gear on your dirt bike. None of which will damage your transmission / gears.
Leave a comment below and let me know if you use a clutch to shift on your dirt bike or not.
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@MidWestMX
@MidWestMX 4 года назад
*SPIT YOUR DUMMY OUT HERE* 👇👇👇👇
@rhys9191
@rhys9191 4 года назад
Hey im getting a crf140 honda and im sure using the 3 step can break your bike so many people said it will
@MidWestMX
@MidWestMX 4 года назад
Rhys Frauenfelder just do whatever suits you. Using the clutch is safer for sure, you can’t go wrong 👍
@adamhepworth6366
@adamhepworth6366 4 года назад
I've never had any problem changing gears the same way you do @midwest mx
@The_IT_Dude_
@The_IT_Dude_ 4 года назад
You can shift a car without using the clutch, but you'll have to match the revs during the shift perfectly. I've done it but do not recommend it.
@adamhepworth6366
@adamhepworth6366 4 года назад
@@The_IT_Dude_ i wouldn't recommend doing it on a car either to be fair
@rtmotovlogs7235
@rtmotovlogs7235 5 лет назад
I personally like to take off my transmission cover and manually change gears
@thecuhwiththefastertroka4582
@thecuhwiththefastertroka4582 4 года назад
Well tbh have y’all ever use your finger as the gear?
@calebmartin2457
@calebmartin2457 4 года назад
I use my fingers as shifting forks
@liamfisketjon7365
@liamfisketjon7365 4 года назад
Ryan9124 I just get a cable and pull on it
@ashwilliams4121
@ashwilliams4121 4 года назад
😹
@Ventshots
@Ventshots 4 года назад
use a ziptie
@Mainborain1039
@Mainborain1039 5 лет назад
I use the kill switch to change gears for fun sometimes
@billybull7419
@billybull7419 5 лет назад
what
@haydenwilliams2771
@haydenwilliams2771 5 лет назад
I never thought of that I'm deffenitly gonna try it
@triggahhappygaming1644
@triggahhappygaming1644 5 лет назад
How exactly, I want to try it
@oliverkeeley4125
@oliverkeeley4125 5 лет назад
Elijah Borain please explain how you do that
@danielbjors8460
@danielbjors8460 5 лет назад
@@oliverkeeley4125 press the killswitch just before u shift up while not letting of the throttle . Works the same way a quickshifter on a sportsbike does
@iiraiyen
@iiraiyen 5 лет назад
i dont shift at all, makes it easier to shift tbh
@Neophobical
@Neophobical 4 года назад
lmao man hahahah
@excelicvizion8903
@excelicvizion8903 4 года назад
STEEZDA 1 hahaha
@ethanh1268
@ethanh1268 4 года назад
no one: alta riders:
@Jerrr-iu6jh
@Jerrr-iu6jh 4 года назад
My man with the 50cc😂
@MrFadinox
@MrFadinox 4 года назад
Damn you scooter drivers ;)
@187onyamomma
@187onyamomma 5 лет назад
Sometimes i reach down and grab my shifter with my hand and shift
@187onyamomma
@187onyamomma 5 лет назад
No joke i literally broke my foot lever on my harley and had to shift with my hand. It happens if you lay it down on the left side.
@chrissuggs8521
@chrissuggs8521 4 года назад
😂😂😂 goon style
@andymma6286
@andymma6286 4 года назад
😂😂
@excelicvizion8903
@excelicvizion8903 4 года назад
187onyamomma the fuück
@Ralleballe71
@Ralleballe71 4 года назад
Haha wtf
@jasonricketts1009
@jasonricketts1009 5 лет назад
I use the kick start to shift my bike. It reverses the polarity on the dogs in the transition causing it to switch gears depending on the direction you move the kick start. After figuring out this method I deleted the handlebars and the carburetor which caused my bike to loose 69lbs. Planning on deleting the front wheel because no one uses that anyways. Also a monster energy sticker helps the tranny shift .0420 milliseconds faster when using the kick method.
@cj2619
@cj2619 5 лет назад
Don’t go telling people the pros tips
@dirtbikewrecker4475
@dirtbikewrecker4475 5 лет назад
🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆 it’s probably 69% faster. You must have a 98cr250. Do you drink PBR!!!!!lol
@cj2619
@cj2619 5 лет назад
Shixty niiine POINT nine
@dirtbikewrecker4475
@dirtbikewrecker4475 5 лет назад
After you delete the front tire make sure you trim the fenders and I always put a weep hole in the gas tank(so it doesn’t fill up with water)
@jasonricketts1009
@jasonricketts1009 5 лет назад
@Jon Eagle That’s a good idea never thought of the weep hole. I’m going to cut a hole in the gas tank to hold my beer when I’m riding so I’ll need a weep hole to drain the spilled beer.
@BradyTara7
@BradyTara7 4 года назад
2:04 Things you can say about your Dirtbike but not your girlfriend
@andrewmasullo2978
@andrewmasullo2978 4 года назад
BradyTara7 😭😭😂😂😂
@griffdon8679
@griffdon8679 4 года назад
I could say the same about my exes face lol
@proussos1
@proussos1 4 года назад
Hahahahaha
@minecrafttime-lapse3851
@minecrafttime-lapse3851 4 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Harryliky56
@Harryliky56 4 года назад
😂😂
@axume9427
@axume9427 4 года назад
Him: *pulls clutch in while throttling, goes normally* Me on a 450: *pulls clutch in while throttling, bike flips*
@blacktikitaka
@blacktikitaka 4 года назад
Axume either this went over my head because if u Kent this seriously it’s probably Bc your going like 2 miles an hour when u try it.
@yallknowd6415
@yallknowd6415 4 года назад
Facts
@alexbozanich6477
@alexbozanich6477 4 года назад
It's how you do wheelies that's why
@ryt2331
@ryt2331 4 года назад
😂😂😂😂
@sixty9oz1
@sixty9oz1 3 года назад
666 likes
@taytin4715
@taytin4715 5 лет назад
I shift with front brake going full speed downhill😎
@lntegrate
@lntegrate 5 лет назад
I shift out of my seat to face palm after reading this comment
@evandavis1297
@evandavis1297 5 лет назад
Wow. So funny.
@taytin4715
@taytin4715 5 лет назад
@@evandavis1297 ik. Fucking hilarious m8
@lntegrate
@lntegrate 5 лет назад
@@evandavis1297 yes
@ltopikl969
@ltopikl969 4 года назад
Sounds VERY safe.
@PhilTheThrill
@PhilTheThrill 5 лет назад
I always use the clutch when down shifting. I use the clutch on mondays and tuesdays. And on fridays I only shift up at 7,000rpm or whenever it gets maxed out.
@MidWestMX
@MidWestMX 5 лет назад
Haha love it
@mtbridingog9083
@mtbridingog9083 5 лет назад
Why Phil 🤦
@babisyou
@babisyou 5 лет назад
whats the point of using clutch when down shifting? bike has no power going when you braking and lowering gear. lol are all those comments troll? damn
@moorshound3243
@moorshound3243 5 лет назад
your a Ducati rider then!
@huntercoons9555
@huntercoons9555 5 лет назад
Sending it are ya?
@TheExergamer
@TheExergamer 5 лет назад
I took my chain off to smooth out changes, works a treat and buttery smooth
@deathrodamus9608
@deathrodamus9608 4 года назад
No more jerk after shifting.
@Chris-mt6dz
@Chris-mt6dz 4 года назад
This was patched in version 1.02
@tonyiy7223
@tonyiy7223 4 года назад
Underrated comment
@Ninfreddo
@Ninfreddo 4 года назад
Tony Iy true
@kmewborn360
@kmewborn360 4 года назад
🤣😂🤣😂
@mattdo9618
@mattdo9618 4 года назад
fuck bro is there a new way to shift
@killergreek55
@killergreek55 4 года назад
Stop comparing everything to video games its pathetic
@pineapplepissant
@pineapplepissant 4 года назад
I don’t use clutch, throttle, brakes ect ect... I just stand up on the seat and go
@schoorinna3320
@schoorinna3320 4 года назад
Works perfectly with your profile picture
@TiboSG
@TiboSG 4 года назад
Lowkey this is the best comment bruv
@loudpackshawty5849
@loudpackshawty5849 4 года назад
Yeah stand up on the seat and go...🤣NOWHERE
@TiboSG
@TiboSG 4 года назад
Loudpack Shawty its funny cos of his picture bruv you fucked the whole thing
@flyintacosnake2079
@flyintacosnake2079 4 года назад
I haven’t gotten that good yet
@dodsss
@dodsss 5 лет назад
the whole comment section are shifting experts
@jonikyro1168
@jonikyro1168 4 года назад
Dods the comment above you is about shifting with your mind
@peterdavis9837
@peterdavis9837 5 лет назад
Whenever I take off I put my bike in neutral and bang on the rev limiter for about 5 seconds then just put it in gear with no clutch
@burrellloren
@burrellloren 5 лет назад
And Peter just proved the point that you now NEVER need a clutch at all! Bravo.
@slabdaddy4209
@slabdaddy4209 4 года назад
Peter Davis,this Technique Works best on pavement!!😂
@jordan6622
@jordan6622 4 года назад
No you can't do that there's only a small window . That's what he said!!🤪
@friedhippo20
@friedhippo20 4 года назад
@@jordan6622 but he said when he starts in neutral
@NewStatements
@NewStatements 3 года назад
LOL I don’t know why, but I’m laughing so hard 😂😂😂
@lakeshow8102
@lakeshow8102 4 года назад
I run transmission fluid in my gas tank with no clutch! Never had a problem shifting!
@PazLeBon
@PazLeBon 4 года назад
hes right, theres a little window. I peeked inside and was tiny little sofa and a t.v. im bit annoyed if they are not offering me a donation towards their power consumption
@gjftwplays6232
@gjftwplays6232 5 лет назад
Sometimes I will just pour some water into my intake to downshift easier.
@greigmckechniesmith4958
@greigmckechniesmith4958 5 лет назад
Helps the rear shock too
@CrazyWhiteVanDriver
@CrazyWhiteVanDriver 5 лет назад
water has highly velocity than air anyways (y)
@SD-ir1vf
@SD-ir1vf 5 лет назад
I use beer the bike likes it better
@xxtrapzyouxx72
@xxtrapzyouxx72 5 лет назад
GJFTW PLAYS Why Dont You Uplaod Any More Videos I Subbed To You
@REM44MAG
@REM44MAG 5 лет назад
real men use sand
@pinussylvestris
@pinussylvestris 5 лет назад
I have no clutch or gearbox at all, saves plenty of Weight. I have welded a bunch of rear sprockets together like shimano bike gears on my rear wheel. Allways full throttle, just an on/off kill switch.
@joshjameskiwibushman
@joshjameskiwibushman 4 года назад
Pinus Sylvestris nailed it
@xxjamaldagoatxx8731
@xxjamaldagoatxx8731 4 года назад
I have no bike at all all I have is a throttle tube, kick starter, and seat. It really saves weight.
@riblja_kita2488
@riblja_kita2488 4 года назад
@@xxjamaldagoatxx8731 i just have a wheel, i balance on it and roll around it saves weight
@marylouricard3364
@marylouricard3364 4 года назад
@@riblja_kita2488 you won lol
@user-tp3vw6uz7s
@user-tp3vw6uz7s 3 года назад
@@riblja_kita2488 pfft I use the bearings
@1SparkyBoy
@1SparkyBoy 4 года назад
Instructions unclear I got my foot caught on the front brake lever
@samuelclark2434
@samuelclark2434 5 лет назад
You can clutchless shift a car, you just have to know the right rpm it's different for every vehicle
@calumkz
@calumkz 5 лет назад
Samuel Clark you can but without a dog box it would damage it slightly if you do it all the time in a normal car. whereas on a bike it causes no damage at all so you can do it all the time
@anty5134
@anty5134 4 года назад
Samuel Clark actually you can’t do it with every car. It has nothing to do with the rpm. If you have a car with a synchronized transmission than you don’t have to have a clutch
@sethaustin6965
@sethaustin6965 4 года назад
Yea you can and it's called floating gears in the USA and over here most of your big rigs drivers do it
@ethanweader270
@ethanweader270 4 года назад
Yea I drive a Nissan Frontier manual transmission and I float gears sometimes
@aaronlocke6294
@aaronlocke6294 3 года назад
Can be done with any manual transmission if you have half a clue...
@DaftDucktool
@DaftDucktool 5 лет назад
I’m going to attempt to clean up the comment section a bit, wish me luck. Okay so everyone is entitled to their own opinions but let’s think about a few things for a minute. First, automotive transmissions and motorcycle transmissions are completely different. Automotive manual transmissions use a synchromesh transmission. What this means is that between each gear, there are synchros. Their job is to match gear speeds on the input and output shafts. After the invention of synchromesh transmissions, “double clutching” became a thing of the past, however I will mention this later as it is an important footnote. Also, we have to remember that automotive transmissions use helical cut gear whereas motorcycles use spur cut gears. This is because helical cut gears are much, MUCH quieter than spur gears. Grandma wouldn’t be too pleased to drive her Honda to church while the gearbox is whining like opera singer. So how are motorcycle transmissions different? Well I mentioned the gears already but first off, and most importantly, they are NOT synchromesh transmissions. They are dog cut transmissions. This is means when you shift a motorcycle, the gears on the input and output shaft mesh together with interference, NOT friction. This in itself eliminates the need for a clutch while shifting. The whole point of using a clutch while shifting a synchromesh transmission is allow the input shaft to slow down briefly enough to allow the synchro to match the speed of the input shaft gear to the selected output shaft gear since the ratios are different and thus, the speeds are different. Dog cut transmissions use interference so they are not dependent on friction matching the rotational speed but most importantly, the clutch in motorcycle is NOT USED TO CONTROL TORQUE. Last but not least, a motorcycle transmission is a true sequential transmission. Yes, the same sequential transmission that your favorite F1 racers and rally drivers have in their cars. What does this mean? It means you cannot skip gears. You must shift in sequential order. 1 2 3 4 5. You can’t ever skip a gear and go directly from 2nd to 4th for example. You must shift into 3rd before getting to 4th. This is for the sake of compactness and simplicity. Your typical h-pattern shifter would be a nightmare on a bike, I think we can all agree on that. So let me ask you this: Do F1 drivers or rally drivers push in the clutch to shift? No. What happens when they shift? The engine’s computer momentarily cuts fuel so there is no load on the pistons. No load on the pistons, no load on the crankshaft. No load on the crankshaft, no load on the input shaft. No load on the input shaft, no load on the transmission. Ergo?? NO NEED FOR THE CLUTCH BECAUSE THE CLUTCH DOES NOT NEED TO CONTROL THE TORQUE OF THE ENGINE. NO LOAD ON THE ENGINE, NO TORQUE OUTPUT. Just as you stated, letting off the throttle and shifting does the same exact thing as pulling in the clutch. You are not loading the transmission when you do so! So how are automotive and motorcycle transmissions similar? Well they are both constant mesh actually but that’s where the similarities stop. Remember the double clutching I mentioned earlier? Well when synchros came along, people were still double clutching even though they didn’t need to be. They were just used to it. When people transitioned to manual cars to motorcycles, they were used to using the clutch so it sticks in their head that the use of the clutch is necessary. That’s it! That’s where the whole concept comes from! There is no evidence suggesting that not using the clutch to shift a motorcycle is worse for the bike and that you should always use the clutch. Any wear to the transmission or gears is because they are big bits of metal always rubbing against each other, not because a rider doesn’t use the clutch. Don’t let anyone tell you differently. Engineers designed these transmissions to be shifted without the clutch. Period. If you think you know better than engineers, by all means, tell me why you should use the clutch while shifting and why you think clutchless shifting is bad for a transmission that was designed for it. That wraps up my lecture and I hope enough of you had the patience to read through this and gain some knowledge in the meantime. Now go out there and shift without the clutch! I promise you won’t ever look back.
@MidWestMX
@MidWestMX 5 лет назад
Can we all get a round of applause for this man ☝️ I suggest everyone give this a read. Thanks buddy 🤟
@DaftDucktool
@DaftDucktool 5 лет назад
MidWest MX No problem man! Here to help! And you gained my sub as well 🤟
@kevinsullivan2912
@kevinsullivan2912 5 лет назад
So you're saying that cutting the throttle or ignition completely removes the torque from the transmission when you shift?? You're as oblivious as the rest of em... even if you cut the ignition, you still need to slow the speed of the engine to match the speed of the output shaft and wheel, cutting the ignition does not cause the engine to magically slow down or speed up to match the new gear, the only way to truly reduce the torque on the transmission is to separate the transmission from the engine.....THE CLUTCH!
@101IplayWOW
@101IplayWOW 5 лет назад
@@kevinsullivan2912 think of it as if you're lifting weights. When you lift you're applying force(torque) against the weight, but as you lowered the weight to set it down you no longer apply force. These transmissions use a wet clutch as well, which allows it to slip. So one could argue that the transmissions were built to drop the clutch, so even if the clutch wasn't used it would take a lot of force to damage the trans.
@DaftDucktool
@DaftDucktool 5 лет назад
kevin sullivan Nope. Wrong. Synchros in an automotive transmission do the job of matching the speeds of the input and output shaft. Since there are no synchros in a motorcycle transmission, guess what does that job? Nothing! The dog gears use INTERFERENCE to match the speed, not FRICTION. There is no need to “disconnect” the engine from the transmission for the dog gears because of this. Try this for me. In a car, let off the throttle and try to shift without the clutch. It’s damn near impossible. Now do it in a bike and tell me what happens? Why can’t you shift without the clutch in a car but in a bike? One word. Friction. The clutch is redundant while shifting on a sequential dog box transmission because it doesn’t rely on a clutch to transfer torque to the transmission. I think it’s you who is oblivious man.
@plague1313
@plague1313 5 лет назад
I've used method number 3 for the past 15 years on the same bike, no clutch shifting. Still runs like a champ.
@TheJoint90
@TheJoint90 4 года назад
Usually when I want to shift gears I watch this video first
@arrinichols4664
@arrinichols4664 5 лет назад
I rebuild the top end on my bike when I wanna shift, very efficient.
@mxice3174
@mxice3174 5 лет назад
3 stroke gang ✊💨💨✊💨💨
@Jouke02
@Jouke02 5 лет назад
I have a 6 stroke dirt bike
@anonymousranter2583
@anonymousranter2583 5 лет назад
@@Jouke02 so, intake, compression, intake, compression, combustion, exhaust?
@Jouke02
@Jouke02 5 лет назад
@@anonymousranter2583 yup
@nun6996
@nun6996 5 лет назад
nah its all about that 1 stroke... nothing revs higher
@TheBmxracer24
@TheBmxracer24 5 лет назад
My 0 stroke is superior.
@yz2508
@yz2508 5 лет назад
" I dont always use the clutch.... But when I do, I prefer the left hand..."
@ollysfishing4231
@ollysfishing4231 5 лет назад
I prefer to use my cock
@FuZe.
@FuZe. 4 года назад
Olly's Family Adventures that’s not so family friendly
@aarondowers325
@aarondowers325 4 года назад
Thank-you for putting videos like this together. I bought by first dirt bike weeks ago and this is a great help!!! Really appreciate it
@ahmedmoustafa6424
@ahmedmoustafa6424 4 года назад
I really want more videos like, just you riding on a road or on a non-bumpy surface. It's so enjoyable to watch!
@MrHotstepper89
@MrHotstepper89 5 лет назад
Half the time I don’t even use the clutch haha Helpful video for people starting off
@MidWestMX
@MidWestMX 5 лет назад
Ye no need for clutch unless you’re hitting those bad boy hill climbs
@noahp9143
@noahp9143 5 лет назад
I don’t care what you say about using the clutch or not but no clutch is a nice way to fuck up you gearbox
@thibo2107
@thibo2107 5 лет назад
No its not rhey have straigt kut gears
@noahp9143
@noahp9143 5 лет назад
FIB do you understand what I DON’T CARE means???
@thibo2107
@thibo2107 5 лет назад
Yeah but you stupid and fucking up your clutch
@bradenkuehl2033
@bradenkuehl2033 5 лет назад
I like switching it up, I use the clutch sometimes and sometimes I don’t it’s just kinda whatever mood I’m in😂. Your channel is getting pretty popular man good luck with it!!!
@MidWestMX
@MidWestMX 5 лет назад
Yeah a lot of people do it randomly. Whatever works for you buddy. Just letting people know it won’t damage your gearbox when you don’t use the clutch if you do it correctly. Thanks man. Appreciate it
@TheBajanAmerican24
@TheBajanAmerican24 5 лет назад
Braden Kuehl I do all 4 of these for certain applications lol, or when I’m in the mood
@R.C.E.MutationsUK
@R.C.E.MutationsUK 4 года назад
This video is very educational. I’ve been riding 18months and was told to always use my clutch going up in gears but I don’t have to coming down. I will be trying a few of these to see if it improves my lap times. Thanks.
@gordonstewart5210
@gordonstewart5210 4 года назад
Actually shifting techniques 3 and 4 are how I was taught to shift a dump truck! And the guy I bought my bike from actually started to seize the plates from clutch shifting, Fixed it by riding the right way! Thanks for the video, cheers!
@stevebussard
@stevebussard 5 лет назад
LMAO! This comment section is great! The debate will never end. But the information in this video is accurate. 2 stroke or 4 stroke, dirt bike or sport bike, there is no difference in transmission design. Clutchless shifting is how these transmissions were designed to be run. The engine is the key concern between 2 and 4 strokes, as engine breaking is about the worst thing you can do with a 2 stroke. Also, a 2 stroke offers basically no engine breaking during deceleration anyway. So for sure, when decelerating on a 2 stroke, pull the clutch in! I've had sport bikes, dirt bikes (2t and 4t), and shifter karts. Other than taking off from a dead start (which is what the clutch is intended for), I basically never use the clutch. 21,000 miles of clutchless, redline shifting on my R6, I had to replace a shift fork, with no damage to the gears. I've ridden for 28 years, and have only had to replace a $7 shift fork, and that was because I forced it into 2nd, without bliping the throttle. For the guys saying shifting without a clutch is hard on your clutch disks, you need to change your transmission fluid more regularly. It's contaminants that are tearing up your clutch, not the fact that you aren't using it.
@MidWestMX
@MidWestMX 5 лет назад
So nice to see someone on here talking sense! Although checking these crazy comments daily is a favourite thing of mine to do :)
@jonelleman7150
@jonelleman7150 5 лет назад
People already know everything so it's hard to teach someone that already knows everything anything lol
@jukas8085
@jukas8085 5 лет назад
Sorry your wrong a two stroke has enginebreaking i mean Not Bad enginbraking but ive never ridden a Four stroke
@stevebussard
@stevebussard 5 лет назад
@@jukas8085 if you've never ridden a 4 stroke, then you have no idea what you're talking about. Comparatively, a 2 stroke has almost no engine brakeing capability. But again, the reason you don't want to engine brake a 2 stroke, has nothing to do with its ability to slow you down. It's because when you're not on the throttle, the oil getting to the engine is greatly reduced, and you risk blowing your engine. Before you tell people they're wrong, you should educate yourself on all sides of the topic, or you end up looking like a fool.
@Martin-ij9md
@Martin-ij9md 5 лет назад
Can i change gears on 2 stroke moped without cluch? (Tomos apn6)
@joshclements4869
@joshclements4869 5 лет назад
You must be a pro ? At ordering ring sets and gaskets 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Ryan-fy3ww
@Ryan-fy3ww 4 года назад
I paraphrased your comment
@Bertoo723
@Bertoo723 4 года назад
Fr
@r.i.petika9109
@r.i.petika9109 4 года назад
Underrated comment
@MF-yw7vl
@MF-yw7vl 3 года назад
Finally I find a video that agrees with my method of riding my motorcycle everyone always told me that it was going to mess up my bike here I run into your video and you're confirming what I've been doing all the time thank you very much sir 😎👍🏁🏍️
@lordofthesuperchargedgiraffes
@lordofthesuperchargedgiraffes 5 лет назад
I never use my clutch to shift up but have always used it to shift down. Now i will give it a try downshifting without it. Never ever broke a gearbox in doing so either! Cheers buddy
@MidWestMX
@MidWestMX 5 лет назад
Neil Ellis I forgot to mention back then that you should blip the throttle when downshifting to take the pressure off. Rev matching is what it’s called. Watch part 2 I explain it better
@DonGH97
@DonGH97 3 года назад
Thanks for the informative video mate. I think i'm gonna do clutchless up shifts when it's hard to use the clutch..for example on a very bumpy section... I want to use the clutch with downshifts for sure just to be safe. Can't wait to get back to Mx after 13 years!
@DonGH97
@DonGH97 Год назад
@Judge Greg Mathis All good here man, and still riding. Shifting is going way better now. How about you, do you ride?
@Thesaint2k13
@Thesaint2k13 5 лет назад
i use the 3rd method also , only use the clutch when setting off in 1st then just release throttle and change gear. thats how i was taught , good video :) never knew about 4th method
@jeremycandoit9400
@jeremycandoit9400 3 года назад
I was just riding today and realized you dont need the clutch to shift gears but i didnt know if it was bad for the bike. Thanks for the clear-up!!👍
@jbleezy-lx3fr
@jbleezy-lx3fr 2 года назад
It is terrible for the bike
@Iceaxehikes
@Iceaxehikes 5 лет назад
England has such tiny roads. It is very cool. I expect to see hobbits farming the fields.
@DevinJuularValentine
@DevinJuularValentine 5 лет назад
Not fun at night with locals going 60 in their 4x4s! These roads you have to think "tractor or bus could be around the corner" the amount of times I've been a bit cautious and exactly what I expected was around the corner. They're fun roads but you keep your wits about you or it's over
@Iceaxehikes
@Iceaxehikes 5 лет назад
@@DevinJuularValentine seeing your roads is inteteresting. Over here in Wyoming, our ATV trails are the same size. It is just a completely different approach. But even the smallest country road for street vehicle traffic is 2 lanes. It is scary as shit watching your videos barreling down those tiny single lane roads where something could pull out of a gap in the hedgerow at any second. Nerves of steel.
@bandit3030
@bandit3030 5 лет назад
You will get stabbed by chavs while looking for them
@ieuank87
@ieuank87 5 лет назад
That's Wales mate. Where I'm from 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@Iceaxehikes
@Iceaxehikes 5 лет назад
@@ieuank87 your Welch then. Y'all make great grape juice! Thanks!
@mxrider2strokebraaap54
@mxrider2strokebraaap54 5 лет назад
Great video! 🤙I’m glad you know that it’s not bad for the transmission to shift without a clutch(without load), because it’s so annoying when people say it’s bad when they don’t know where they’re talking about. I still like to used the clutch on the pit bike, just because I’m used to that I guess😆
@MidWestMX
@MidWestMX 5 лет назад
Yeah people have been arguing about it for years but its a fact that it does not damage your gearbox. These transmissions were specially created for that reason.
@liamdanard4393
@liamdanard4393 5 лет назад
@@MidWestMX 75% of the time its does
@seanperks2702
@seanperks2702 5 лет назад
It does wear the dogs in the gearbox faster. It's a simple fact. Ever taken a gearbox apart from a road bike with thousands of miles on? A mate of mine had a gearbox fail after 5,000 miles because he used to clutch less shift all the time...
@AlexSEnduroItalia
@AlexSEnduroItalia 5 лет назад
Like bro ! I use almost always use the clutch to change gears 💪✊️😃
@dirtbikedude-cb6ji
@dirtbikedude-cb6ji 3 года назад
Its weird looking back on this old video when i was trying to get an idea of how to ride a bike i am now the proud owner of a ktm 200xcw dont stop pumping out videos they really do influence people in amazing ways just like it did me 🙌
@carloswhitehead9678
@carloswhitehead9678 4 года назад
Front wheel is faster than the rear wheel also I take my wheels off when I ride makes it more aerodynamic
@MrDob2009
@MrDob2009 5 лет назад
I stay in neutral so i don't have to use my clutch !!!
@konnerobe3112
@konnerobe3112 3 года назад
This whole ass comments section is funny asf 😂
@BosleyBeats
@BosleyBeats 3 года назад
Solid video. Absolutely brilliant. Thank you
@godboa3340
@godboa3340 3 года назад
I Been riding dirt bikes my hole life and I sometime don’t use the clutch when I change down a gear but now that I know all of this it helped me learn more thank u man
@ethanpeele1621
@ethanpeele1621 3 года назад
Wow you sound like a dumbass
@bruhbruh3829
@bruhbruh3829 3 года назад
@@ethanpeele1621 wow you sound like an asshole
@116fletch
@116fletch 5 лет назад
I keep trying the clutch on my sick powerbanded PW50 but it just skids
@jonthelamb4549
@jonthelamb4549 5 лет назад
116fletch it took to long for me to get this one lol
@jakubczelusniak1494
@jakubczelusniak1494 5 лет назад
Got it in the end. Good one😂
@ryansydedoran5842
@ryansydedoran5842 5 лет назад
Best coment I seen in a bloody long time nice one hahaha
@116fletch
@116fletch 5 лет назад
Your welcome fellow clutch jockeys 🤟🏻🤟🏻
@outlaw3440
@outlaw3440 5 лет назад
😭😂👌
@hybridamericandude3575
@hybridamericandude3575 5 лет назад
Been shifting without a clutch for many many years without any problems on several types of bikes and ATV's. I can tell you that when milliseconds count, when properly done the clutch is not necessary. Once that bike is rolling all you need to do is manipulate the transmission load with the throttle and shift. The clutch is not useless. It is especially useful for specific needs that are too many to list. Shifting is a very basic principle and if someone doesn't get it, then you need more riding experience. Great explanations of the various techniques in this video! There is way too much controversy around this subject because of the various riding styles. Pick the techniques that work for you and your style and shut up already.
@connor3288
@connor3288 2 года назад
I have a sport quad and clutchless upshift. Have tried clutchless downshifts but i find with a thumb throttle its hard to blip when braking and when on bumpy terrain, so i will pull in clutch when braking or downshifting. Planning on getting a twist throttle. Thoughts on clutch vs clutchless downshift on atv? How about atv twist throttle? Desert guys run em. Its a predator 500 TLD. For controls already changed front and rear masters for better ergos and power, front trx450r and rear 300ex.
@kennyhallmark4171
@kennyhallmark4171 2 года назад
I always chang it up depending on what I'm doing but it's nice to know that I'm doing it right every way you showed how too. Thank you.
@motomedic546
@motomedic546 4 года назад
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! This is the greatest video ever! People think I am crazy because I use number 4 when shifting. Like you said in the video I to have never had any transmission problems! People don’t realize it’s not like a car transmission. Man I’m just happy I found this video. Thanks again!
@epavakaa
@epavakaa 3 года назад
How To shift a dirtbike the right way? : *use clutch*
@frankw8315
@frankw8315 2 года назад
Correct !
@curtisslasserre921
@curtisslasserre921 5 лет назад
Newer rider with about 2 months experience. Yamaha r6 and some dirt bikes my little bro and I recently bought. We use the clutch every time when shifting up and down. Going to try out method 3 soon! Also, beautiful scenery! Keep the vlogs coming 👍🏼
@oscar_bru8455
@oscar_bru8455 Год назад
a tip. ik its late now, but apply a little pressure on the gearlever when the transmission is loaded and it should automatically pop into gear when it gets unloaded.
@itsshalevfromtaxidashcamer9390
@itsshalevfromtaxidashcamer9390 4 года назад
That's really helpful! Thanks man! 👍👍👍
@boom-kanick3775
@boom-kanick3775 4 года назад
This helped clear up SO much for me. Thank you!
@jonikyro1168
@jonikyro1168 4 года назад
My dad once put the throttle to the rear brake so when he pressed down on his leg it would accelerate
@emerykosin9845
@emerykosin9845 4 года назад
MINI_GAMES YT what?
@jonikyro1168
@jonikyro1168 4 года назад
Emery Kosin throttle on the rear brake
@emerykosin9845
@emerykosin9845 4 года назад
MINI_GAMES YT that’s crazy how did he do it?
@jonikyro1168
@jonikyro1168 4 года назад
Emery Kosin not sure how but his bike was so old that brake had a wire
@chrissavage9349
@chrissavage9349 4 года назад
What lmfao that's like the smartest dumbest thing I have heard ima try it
@a.dudeman7715
@a.dudeman7715 5 лет назад
Cool way to describe everything, my friend! But, for your information, you *can* shift a manual car without using the clutch, so long as your synchros are good and you know what you're doing. I've owned two manual vehicles (a 1999 Chevrolet S10, and a 1993 Honda Accord, both 4-cylinder engines), and the idea is the same as it is on the bike, basically: Get up to the speed where you'd shift, let off the throttle to take load off of the transmission, and (at least in the case of my Accord) pull the gear stick from whatever gear you're in, and pull it to the gear you're going to, but don't try to force it in. Put a little pressure on it, and it'll be like the transmission grabs and pulls it in on it's own. Of course, it takes a load of practice, but the thing to note is with a passenger car, you really wanna do it as your revs start to fall. If you do it too soon or too late, you'll grind the gears. With anything involving motor vehicles, be careful, be smart.
@jaimewright7653
@jaimewright7653 4 года назад
Love the light trance in the background. And throughourly enjoyed the video, good advice. Thanks
@badgamer7310
@badgamer7310 3 года назад
you help me so so much thank u bro And Hi from Bulgaria
@TicoTimeCR
@TicoTimeCR 5 лет назад
"These bikes, they're made to take abuse." Five seconds later: "You don't want to be fully loaded, because it's not good for the transmission." @4:30 Seriously though it seems like you're implying that shifting this way is abuse.
@chancemarquez7524
@chancemarquez7524 4 года назад
It's really hard to shift when you are putting power on. The shift lever will not shift when under power it is locked in unless the clutch is pulled in...
@trentpiersall.668
@trentpiersall.668 4 года назад
He's saying there's a small window to shift without the clutch at a high RPM safely, I do it all the time. But he's also saying that if you try to shift to early without the clutch while giving it gas it's not the best thing to do...
@lenny0347
@lenny0347 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣
@tyson5037
@tyson5037 4 года назад
I was riding a race when suddenly my clutch broke, So i just improvised and rode the race out with just letting the gas go and shift. And since then I’m using this techniek.
@JohnSmith.1
@JohnSmith.1 3 года назад
Cheers im buying a bike tomorrow for this coming summer and i wouldnt even of known about the way you do it i only watched videos where they showed the first method by the sounds of it i prefer ur method and thats what im going to be trying thanks for the video
@paodepota8373
@paodepota8373 3 года назад
Hey congrats on your new 300
@JustAnOrdinarySimmer
@JustAnOrdinarySimmer 5 лет назад
Been doing MX for 14 years and I always use the clutch just because it's a habit. It doesn't exactly take a million seconds longer to flick the clutch during a gear change whether it's up or down. To be honest there are people I know that are throwned upon in disgust because they don't use the clutch and from my experience, those that don't use the clutch do go through more transmissions than those that do. Believe me or call me a liar it's up to you but 14 years mx experience with an extra 5 years riding on road experience not one credible person has advised me to not use the clutch.
@wyattbozarth54
@wyattbozarth54 5 лет назад
Exactlyyy, I feel like only the experienced people know how to short shift with the clutch properly. I do it out of habit as well. I’ve been riding for 16 years myself...
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 5 лет назад
Why do shifter karts (they use CR125 engines) NOT use the clutch? Nobody does. None, zero, nada.......
@wyattbozarth54
@wyattbozarth54 5 лет назад
@@TOMVUTHEPIMP I’ve rode/raced motocross for 16 years. I race 450B and 250B at 265lbs. I 90% of the time use the clutch and never have had an issue. I short shift so I don’t let off and I’ll quickly grab the clutch and shift up but I ALWAYS use the clutch to downshift. If you want to see me ride, I have a video posted on my channel (just skip to 0:50 if you watch it) or you can see my IG @wyattbozarth17 It’s the way I’ve rode my entire life and I have never once had a tranny issue or had to replace my clutch plates. And for the record, I would rather take the risk of burning my clutch plates than destroying my tranny.
@talvinderjit1
@talvinderjit1 5 лет назад
Hot Pockets maybe different transmission 🤷🏽‍♂️
@TOMVUTHEPIMP
@TOMVUTHEPIMP 5 лет назад
@@talvinderjit1 Nope. They use 1999 and 2001 Honda CR125 engines. All the internals are standard Honda CR125 parts. Only thing different is the power valve ports on the cylinder are plugged and the engine has no power valve assembly.
@Luke-sw5gz
@Luke-sw5gz 5 лет назад
I find it depends on the type of riding your doing as well. I've never road street bikes but I have rode mx and trail bikes. Both Yamaha 450s. I find on the mx track I never use clutch. But in the woods it's a little different. Either way to each their own and whatever works best for the rider is what they should go with. All that being said I agree, you will not hurt the trans shifting without clutch.
@Jo6andz
@Jo6andz 3 года назад
Thank you man I’m new sub and I liked video ! Thanks for the lessons
@mountainbearoutdoors
@mountainbearoutdoors 5 лет назад
be interesting doing a gearbox teardown of a clutchless shifted box vs one that's been treated nicely with clutch use
@kinglouis6974
@kinglouis6974 5 лет назад
Mountain Bear outdoors Lol your definitely a yank using the word....tear down, even though you guys speak English you talk American 😂
@mountainbearoutdoors
@mountainbearoutdoors 5 лет назад
@@kinglouis6974 guess again mate I'm british
@frankw8315
@frankw8315 2 года назад
@@mountainbearoutdoors u told him so he don’t need to “geuss again”
@nick3718
@nick3718 5 лет назад
Am I the only one who’s always been taught to pull the clutch when shifting down?
@bradpaterson193
@bradpaterson193 3 года назад
yeah when shifting down you should let off throttle and use clutch
@angelodias2877
@angelodias2877 3 года назад
Fantastic explanation and video. Tank you very much.
@RealCrouchen
@RealCrouchen 4 года назад
all i needed to know. good video!
@adriantompson
@adriantompson 5 лет назад
just bought a enduro bike never use clutch changing up gears on the road do use it changing down. mt10 got a flat shifter on it but not a down blipper. it a wonder the mx and enduro bikes dont have these. i ride up the road where you ride on the road bike. love it up there ive taken the name off my vids try to stop two many going there.
@MidWestMX
@MidWestMX 5 лет назад
adrian tompson hello fellow local 👋🏻 yeah I know what you mean. That’s why I don’t put the names in my videos. Best to keep it private and enjoy our backyard. Might see you on the journey sometime 🤟
@bxckwoodsonly2816
@bxckwoodsonly2816 5 лет назад
U do it so backwards lol ur not rlly supposed to use the clutch when downshifting bc the engine slows u down as well as ur brakes
@justingattone5157
@justingattone5157 4 года назад
I once changed gears without letting off the throttle and no clutch somehow I was just riding around and I thought I pulled in the clutch but I didn’t and then it just changed gears and I’m like htf
@Isaiahstetson
@Isaiahstetson 2 года назад
Mate your not wasting 5 minutes and 58 seconds on my day. You are actually making more exciting because I like to here what you have to say and how to properly do something.
@masonisfishingrn1394
@masonisfishingrn1394 2 года назад
I'm thinking about getting a yz125x and I feel like this helped me out because there's really not much to do and you really said it in a simple way so this will help me later on if I get the dirt bike. Thank you
@6.7heaven92
@6.7heaven92 5 лет назад
The way I learned to not use the clutch is the first time I rode I forgot to use the clutch put my foot up and went right in lol I hardly ever use the clutch. Except starting off(ofcourse)
@hmstriggered1143
@hmstriggered1143 5 лет назад
I’m 13 and I’ve had my Honda CRF110 since I was 6 and it has an automatic clutch with 4 gears. I just let the throttle of and shift.
@defiantone3019
@defiantone3019 3 года назад
I’m #1 and #2. I’m going to try #3. Informative video. Thanks
@alanburczyk5399
@alanburczyk5399 3 года назад
Thanks so much you taught me a lot
@jordanheft61
@jordanheft61 5 лет назад
Dirt bike transmission s are pretty tough no doubt but on the gear shaft there are things called dogs that will fit into holes called dog houses on the next gear when you shift. Over time clutchless shifting can mash down the dogs and dog houses and mess up the transmission. Never happened to me but have seen it on a lot of Harleys and a VFR and a yz80. I don't clutchless shift but did it you do just thought I'd give my 2 cents.
@DaftDucktool
@DaftDucktool 5 лет назад
jordan heft What you said is true, yes, but even when you use the clutch to shift, you are still engaging the dog gears. They will wear the same whether or not you use the clutch while shifting. Since dog gears are not reliant on friction but interference, it makes no difference whether the clutch is used as they will always mesh together in the same fashion. You’ve gotta keep in mind that these things are always rubbing against each other. Even if you are religious about maintenance, it’s still a bunch of metal spinning really fast, rubbing against each other. Anything has the potential to fail in those conditions.
@jannik7715
@jannik7715 5 лет назад
All 2 Stroke riders be like:😲
@RelentlessCo
@RelentlessCo 4 года назад
Jannik ikr
@evancantrell8652
@evancantrell8652 4 года назад
Fr
@gocowboys51411
@gocowboys51411 4 года назад
Well we're good when our bikes blow up we pay 450$ when theirs does they're screwed.
@EarthWasHere
@EarthWasHere 3 года назад
Gooo Cowboys!!! Tell me about it...i had to pay $1600 just to get it fixed😓
@jaseball4387
@jaseball4387 3 года назад
Facts
@fullyrc8555
@fullyrc8555 3 года назад
Awesome thanks for the info! I normally change gears by putting my finger in the end of the exhaust and swerl it around while at full revs.
@Tgilbert03
@Tgilbert03 2 года назад
Never had a clue that you didn't need to clutch to shift.....Always thought it was required. Great video
@cheetahgaming3642
@cheetahgaming3642 4 года назад
I swear so many people know literally nothing about transmissions... it is a SEQUENTIAL TRANSMISSION if you don't know what that is, look it up its the same style of transmission used in racecars, not using the clutch will not damage any components at all as long as theres no load on the transmission (by letting of the accelerator) it is completely down to personal preference, i use the clutch on 4 strokes and I rev match downshift but on 2 strokes i just click up and click down. Too hard with there powerband it is what the transmission is DESIGNED to do, it will not hurt the engines, gaskets, rings, clutch, zip, nope, nada, nothing at all even powershifting will not hurt a bike 99% of the time like a car, in race conditions on a dirt bike it will almost all the time wheelspin with a powershift, not causing any harm to the clutch, using the built in limiter will bring the revs down perfectly if you time it correctly, and most the time with as quick a shift you should be shifting the revs will not even go up too much as to where it should be with such short gearing thats on bikes Motorbikes are in no way similar to cars especially the transmissions. please just stop talking about stuff you have no clue about, maybe you belong in the quadbike community instead??
@mondobananas1832
@mondobananas1832 4 года назад
Well make a video about it then if you’re so dedicated to your knowledge of shifting and transmissions. Already subscribed so I’m waiting.
@sodastunts2820
@sodastunts2820 4 года назад
To be fair, the 2011 KX250f does NOT have a sequential gearbox, similar to some other bikes that are made.
@TiboSG
@TiboSG 4 года назад
First time i heard about this was from JaketheGardenSnake... years n years ago he made a vid on it, on his 450... i know what sequential box is n that so it made sense to me... these ppl laughin at the guy i think theyre dumb really.... theyre about savin the ting when all they do is swap a new engine every month or so... all them probably get every single bike, part, gear, anythin from their parents bruv.... peak
@tylerhubbell6410
@tylerhubbell6410 4 года назад
If you have the money like those racers do of course it doesn't matter if you use the clutch or not they replace everything quite often to keep up with the competition.Imagine driving or riding the bike with the most wear and tear while everyone else has new stuff every race do you think you will have the most odds of winning.....no most likely not.I guarantee every 10 to 20 year old bike that gets raced and still has everything from the past 5 races you can find alot of shavings in crankcase fluid.
@Jope1899
@Jope1899 4 года назад
Wait, quadbike community? Isn't it the same but with 2 wheels more and the possibility to navigate through 2 feet of mud? Quads can also shift without clutch bro, maybe you belong to kart community
@jessesights9528
@jessesights9528 4 года назад
I do this all the time when I race I press the front brake all the way when going full throttle and shift up but I usually win these races
@waxmanvids5015
@waxmanvids5015 2 года назад
awesome video thx!!!!
@calebmoore3456
@calebmoore3456 5 лет назад
I ride a 1999 KDX200 and my personal preference is number 2.✊🏻✊🏻👍🏻 Works great
@HyperRidemx
@HyperRidemx 5 лет назад
My Kawasaki Transmission got killed, but it was not from my shifting patterns or methods, it was from all that water that kept getting in! Slow speed I just reduce throttle and change gears, when I am up riding it a bit harder, I use the traditional method, of throttle off, clutch in, change gears, back on throttle! Good tips!
@MidWestMX
@MidWestMX 5 лет назад
Yeah I never use the clutch for gears. I use the clutch for hill climbs and some enduro hard bits but never for gears. Riders preference really but it amazes me that people think it damages the gearbox
@keithpruett7971
@keithpruett7971 5 лет назад
Thats the way i like to shift, im quick and used to it
@richb.4374
@richb.4374 5 лет назад
It's your bike, ride it as you wish. Bang shifting is hard on the transmission no matter how you try to convince yourself it's okay. The clutch is there for a reason, not just decoration.
@kylelamont8827
@kylelamont8827 5 лет назад
Rich B. Yeah it’s there for a reason, it’s to start and stop you don’t have to change gear with ur clutch
@tassiedingo
@tassiedingo 5 лет назад
starting, stopping, wheelies, and revving at people. thats about it lol
@etaunknown4024
@etaunknown4024 5 лет назад
@@tassiedingo yeah, it would definitely be hard to rev bomb ppl without a clutch. Buuuut, that's about it.
@scooterp7060
@scooterp7060 3 года назад
Thank you all the way from the NYC ride 🙏🙌 safe
@mikew.inversegravitycraft
@mikew.inversegravitycraft 3 года назад
Great video I never knew I could change gears without using clutch
@soundterrorist256
@soundterrorist256 5 лет назад
I use the clutch to up shift but never to down shift I rev match instead
@nikkokas9028
@nikkokas9028 4 года назад
Same
@treysongz3495
@treysongz3495 5 лет назад
clutches are for wheelies only 😂
@FlamingRadar
@FlamingRadar 5 лет назад
What about revving at chicks???
@mirror9762
@mirror9762 5 лет назад
True
@brodycaruso5394
@brodycaruso5394 5 лет назад
And launching
@kylejohnson9510
@kylejohnson9510 5 лет назад
I dont even use a clutch doing wheelies
@treysongz3495
@treysongz3495 5 лет назад
i ride a stock 600 i prefer clutch for more control over the wheelie. a dirtbike it really isn't needed but a sportbike it's best to use clutch
@johnt.saylor5280
@johnt.saylor5280 4 года назад
I use all those methods depending on the circumstances. You left out that you should preload pressure on the shifter before reducing power to the transmission. This makes the actual shift much faster and reduces the possibility of a missed shot or false neutral.
@gavinbutler6786
@gavinbutler6786 4 года назад
A great video, and the first one ive seen that actually makes sense and is easy to understand.
@MidWestMX
@MidWestMX 4 года назад
Gavin Butler thanks buddy. That’s actually the first reasonable, nice response I’ve received 😂😂✌️
@gavinbutler6786
@gavinbutler6786 4 года назад
MidWest MX most people are just keyboard warriors and haven’t got a clue. Guess it’s the old saying of ‘its easier to be negative than positive’ 👍
@lhmotorsports4032
@lhmotorsports4032 5 лет назад
I use my starter for high performance shift
@ScottCarterTN615
@ScottCarterTN615 5 лет назад
Ok to start I've been riding dirt bikes, motorcycles and atvs since I was 8 years old. I'm now 41. That's 33 years for what it's worth! I have always SLAM shifted (example 4)! Never broke ANYTHING! (Except a toe, but that had nothing to do with shifting! That was the stumps fault, it refused to move...) Also, never replaced a clutch, because I'm not ABUSING IT! Even after 20,000 miles on a klx 250. There are only three times to use your clutch: 1. The obvious starting into motion and stopping. 2. Pulling the front end up (WHEELIES) 3. THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE! To reduce engine breaking when your ass is sliding down hill on a wet surface or in loose terrain like gravel or leaves. Just my opinion... but if you use the clutch for any other purposes you still have some learning to do.
@Kickstart500
@Kickstart500 5 лет назад
Scott Carter having ridden over 50 years, the clutch is also very handy in mountainous terrain.. at times when 2nd is to low and 3rd too high for the moment, slipping the clutch is the way to go
@Shortz232
@Shortz232 4 года назад
Ive just switch to clutch and you have helped me heaps thanks mate
@abbievaughan8444
@abbievaughan8444 4 года назад
Thank you, needed to hear this. Mental debate.
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