The Truth About Hitboxes In Rocket League 

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The biggest problem is the paywall (and even unavailability for purchase) to access these "new" hitboxes. In the beginning everything was unique but also free (or very cheap in case of the early DLCs). The hitbox consolidation was only good because you never *had* to buy any newly released car to access its hitbox.

0:50 that car body transition was disgustingly clean

I'm 50/50 on this. I've always wanted unique hotboxes to come back. I was very disappointed with the change back then. But at least it completely removed the chance of a pay to win car. If they continue to stick to just hotbox relocations, I think we should be okay. All the relocations so far have been to match the car model. The worry is if they decide to make a completely new hotboxes for a new car that's just bigger in all directions. I would hate hate to see Octane dethroned because of a DLC car that's designed to be better then it. Being owned by Epic doesn't give me confidence..

Still waiting for the hitbox that makes my tm8 rotate back post.

There's one thing you forgot to mention tho. While most of the very recent car bodies have shifted/adjusted hitboxes, cars like the Diesel and Scorpion remained with the usual standartised hitboxes

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You’re definitely onto something with the “pros need to use the car” idea. I remember the Ford Mustang gained a bit of popularity after Joyo first used it. Good stuff as always Wayton

I think it would be interesting if Psyonix held an RL Esport event where the players have to play with a car outside the meta (octane, fennec, dominus, batmobile). Maybe something could catch on and shake the meta some more? Maybe players will specialize in random cars because an event like that would exist? Just something I thought about during the video.

THE EDITING, dam that was well edited. props to the guys who did that. a work of art.

Good video. I've been pretty disconnected for rl recently and didn't realize they shifted the position of more hitboxes after the initial changes to the f1. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out

so cool they make the pay2win cars special. the f1 car is pretty expensive

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I think the adjustment should be made to many cars. The physics principles in rocket league make it so there's a real trade off of benefits and drawbacks to those adjustments. And like many things in the real world, a hitbox that is a generalist will often be better overall because it's not terrible at any one thing. But mainly, I'm all for the hitboxes matching their appearance more closely. They should make a hitbox specifically for the scarab, that thing is awful.

I see this going three directions depending on how psyonix handles this going forward: either they release a "broken" hitbox like you suggested that breaks out on the pro scene or things stay more or less as they are with players sticking to what they prefer and not spending the money to test every single new hitbox that gets released or, the most interesting option, psyonix updates every single hitbox to bemore accurate (while retaining some kind of standardization) so that each car has at least some unique potential which would open up a lot of possibilities for players of all skill. Specializing in a specific hitbox will be more important than ever.

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I get what your saying. But I feel that the fennec and octane looks wise look cleaner. Which as you talked about the placebo affect b4 understand where I’m going. I feel that the harbinger for example doesn’t have those clean lines to follow on car designs.

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Played Octane starting out but now I really only just use the Paladin for each match. Something about that car just feels so gooooooood.

I’m happy abt this bcz i’ve always wanted every car to have it’s one hitbox that matches up perfectly with the car

Your RL videos are the best my dude. Smart as always. Looking forward to 2024.

Thanks for sharing this information. I'm glad they're taking it more serious and implementing more accurate "car tools" in the game. Certainly other pros have commented on this. Like JZR documenting miss touches and touches that shouldn't have happened. That's also the reason for toppers not sitting on the car correctly.

The editing skills on this video are insanely good. Well done!

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Thank you, this is really informative and much appreciated!

I USE THE DINGO! am always hyped when I see another player using it… doesn’t happen often 😅

I would love to have every car match its hitbox perfectly, even if that means going back to 100+ hitboxes in the game. The only change that needs to preceed this is that all cars are available for free. And it would still be a big win for Epic, as people would rush to buy skins for their new personal favorite.

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His videos are just getting higher and higher quality! Love the intros and videos!

I used the primo for a little while and it felt really good. I ultimately went back to fennec, but that may change while I play around at a mid rank and cycle through dominus boxes as well. I assumed primo was breakout and had no clue it was a modified hybrid. Personally I'm a fan of unique hitboxes rolling back in. I'm nowhere near breaking through to higher ranks, and experimenting with different cars is a fun learning experience. Great video, great editing, and very informative. Thanks Wayton

I remember linkuru hyping up the fast 4wd and metsanauris playing with it in rlcs. The car is almost entirely forgotten now. I'm scared to see the day rocket league becomes a pay to win game...

I love your analytic videos. 💯

Also something is that It has only happened to DLC cars which if the shift octane hitbox but only on a DLC car It would make It kind of pay to win right?

Finally, I have been asking about this but being ignored in the comments or told. Look at the video bro even though their video didn't talk about the CG point. The fact that the CG point remains in the same spot but the hit box moves is huge and can completely change how the care plays. For the Octane, one of the things that has uniquely about its CG. It has the lowest CG relative to the hitbox. Which creates a sweeping motion as the hit box rotates around the CG during spins and dodges. Creating a artificially larger hitbox.

I use the Artemis GXT for some reason,it has strong flicks decent challenges and good airplay but I really like the groundplay

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great vid, keep it up big boy

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Saw Leth talk about this I kind of understood till now. Wow that's a big change

always a good day when wayton uploads

You're getting so manny shout outs from leths channel that i had to come check you out😂

Always a good day when Wayton uploads.

Been using the bronco as my main. Love it

I forgot about the dingo. I have a tw one and some nice decals. I'm gonna use it more because I already mostly play fennec.

nice cut and thks for the infor

Cudos to the FX editor, this video is sick

I'm most worried about this game becoming p2w. Imagine epic releases a car with some OP hitbox in the item shop for 20€.

Honestly they could probably just get right down to it and have a popular pro/content creator sign a contract to play with a car for a certain amount of time as an advertisement. It really seemed like Leth was driving up Dingo usage back when that came out.

I LOVE switching cars, every season I run with the featured car(s). Also always sicken of Octanes since I picked up the game. 😂❤ GGs

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mainly the reason i use old cars like octane or fennec, are mainly because they feel better, and i been using then for so long so it just feels more nostolgic.

I think this is a good change tbh. I think it’s nice to add a little bit more actual different content to the game

finally, an in depth explanation on the f1 situation

Very interesting video, new cars are too expensive I don’t spent a dime anymore on this game anymore and haven’t for awhile. I’ve always just found Dom and fennec most comfortable for me personally. I still like to mix up cars once in awhile.

for the octane in the beginning, its not weak flicks, you just gotta go at it differently, and they can be as high as an dominus

I use the dingo, and I love it. I feel like it is easier to handle and control

Nice vid man

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Imagine all cars have the hitbox more matched to its looks now. I would be grinding different cars to find my own type.

I think that this is the way it should be, it will make skill ceiling even higher and it will be way more fun to watch the pro play too as players will start using different cars rather than the 3 main ones. The only problem would be the paywall behind hitboxes, but for a free to play game epic is falling behind on money made as new things dont interest the dedicated players

11:32 I think it's important to remember, this is a game. Nearly all competitive games manually shake up their META to draw attention and keep people coming back. Compared to actual sports where nothing is changed except maybe a new shoe that has 0.2% better spring to it. Rocket League NEEDS these changes and interesting updates. Sucks they're still so subliminal and silent about them.

How does shifting the hitbox forward increase the length of the "lever"? Wouldn't the center of mass also shift?

Maybe its just me but I prefer when cars have 2 thrusters at the back instead of one in the centre. A lot of the cars they release that i considered using have a single thruster

I want to select my car dlc different from the hit box. So I can have my favorite car with the best hitbox. Thoughts?

This is so interesting 🤔

extremely well edited

“2024 is gonna be a great year” yes, for other games 😂

Dont the different models have different ball launch angles too? Or is that due to the pivot point you mentioned? Ive used the X-Devil since the beginning, and since i only play once a week i wont be switching because it will take me too long to get used to the physics differences for dribbling etc. I have to imagine pro players are the same in that they want to perfect their techniques, not have to learn new physics, hence they just stick with the octane.

Great vid❤

Its pretty cool that you can kinda have "builds" in Rocket League. Want to focus on Flicks? use a flat car. Want better 50s? use merc

It was GarretG who inspired me to use Fennec, long before Zen came on the stage.

Wait the car that u showed at the end while talking about the octane hitbox change did it really happened?

That my truck, harbinger for life yo!!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉 0:36

I have friends who play league and valorant and other competative games and there are constant developer notes, characters getting buffed and nerfed and balance issues being resolved. There is a constant cycle of finding exploits, winning a bunch of games and then having the devs patch it. (this inevitably destroys the traditional gameplay and some regular players have to shift). And then they go looking for a new exploit. Following the meta pays big in these games. I think that phyonix's approach to just standardize everything and to have at least 1 free car in each category was brillant. It might not make as much money tomorrow, but it solidified rocket league as a game that will continue to be competative into the future. If it's all standardized, there is consisency; you can count on it being the same for years. Those who work on core skills will consistently pass those who look for loop holes and exploits. The pro scene will always have the most competative players. This is one of the reasons I've always felt that rocket league is more similar to real sports (soccer or basketball) than any other eSport. While this update isn't a garunteed bad thing, it does leave our beloved game vulnerable to accidental exploits. As wayton was showing, the F1 (an in game purchase) has a lot more power. If your opponent isn't aware of this update they might get surprised at the power coming out of flicks. It's a small thing, but this may be just the beginning. Could it get worse? could we get circle or triangle hit boxes? or maybe wheels that extend past the nose of the car? who know what is now possible....or maybe it will be fine and nobody will care.

I like how the fennec says weak flicks when mawkzy exists

funny thing is I thought fennec was more popular car when I first found the car in a reddit clip, I was like: "what is that car I love the looks of it" I was hesitant to switch from octane for muscle memory but when I found out it's octane hitbox I switched immediately even now I love this car if memory serves correct this one of the few that not not only has two exhaust but also it's boost comes from it's tail lights instead of separated space in the midle that is created for every car I saw these two are one of the reasons why I love this car and main reason being ofc octance hitbox, I really wanted DINGO to gain popularity but sadly it did not get that much attention I also the civic type car normal variant specially TW PAINT it's like underglow

Bro, where and how can we get the F1 Car though? I've been playing like 2 years and i haven't seen it in the items shop like at all.

The primos adjusted hybrid hitbox is insane

5:24 Its kinda hilarious that this whole vid is about people/pros only using a few cars but there’s a merc right here

the fennec also looks like the iconic vw golf mk 2 gti

Ive mained the f1 since it came out, i love it

"Don't fix what ain't broke." the community told Epic. "But... but money. I want the money!" Epic replied without making eye contact, shivering and gleaming from cold sweat.

wow i was a freestyler in diamond with about 2.5k hours and i had to stop playing cause my controller broke and its been like 10 months now and i really miss the game

I’m a fennec main but my reasoning for switching to it from octane was because it was the same hitbox and it felt better and more consistent.

I kinda wanna see an octane hitbox that gets shifted 👀 wonder how that would feel

>new car releases* >CC make videos "WOW THIS IS SO GOOD OMG BEST CAR???!?!???!?!?" > no one uses it ever after the first week* Everytime a new good BP car comes out LMAO

I want to see unique hitboxes for each car to make a return and maybe even the option to choose your hitbox and turn radius preset

The problem is that shifting the hitbox without moving the center of mass causes HUGE problems - especially for muscle memory. Lightning McQueen has absolutely abysmal flicks and power because the center of mass was too far forward after the hitbox shift. It feels nothing like a Dominus at all, and that’s the main reason that I can’t use it even though I bought the car. If they’re going to shift the hitboxes, the cars still need to feel similar to their original hitbox.

5:50 ok but fennec just looks good, unlike a lot of other cars introduced. It's a clean design... gotta give that some credit, along with the "hitbox-accuracy" ofc

Now i wish i got the fast 4wd cuz now its probably gonna be a bit overpowered

Finally a new rocket league video finally

for the f1 hitbox is it changed for both 2021 and 2022 or just 2021

idk if its just me but i like the fennec bc its boxy shape looks good, maybe they should just make another box car (and they better put two boost holes, looks way better)

i legitimately think the Ace is one of the best cars in the game. the breakout hitbox in general has some unique qualities like its fastest turn radius to it that make it extremely speedy and effective both on and off the ball, but always seemed a little too awkward to actually want to use. with it being shifted backward it fixes a bit of its floppiness and awkwardness. this puts your nose closer in line with the octane's positioning, while still keeping the extra length of the car behind you, which can be surprisingly useful in a lot of situations. and with it being shifted UPWARDS (!!!!) it makes it compete a lot more with the octane on 50/50 situations and can get more controlled touches for ground dribbles in a way that is perfectly in line with what you normally want for high level gameplay. in fact, theres many situations for both 50/50s and dribbles that are simply an improvement over the octane hitbox. ive always liked the flat cars, but there was always something too awkward and unsafe about their ground game and 50/50s. the Ace completely fixes that imo while still having all the qualities you normally want from a flat car. it is now my go-to flat car option for sure. as a bonus, the way it plays is somehow surprisingly close to the octane hitbox so switching between them is pretty easy. ive been able to maintain my octane hitbox playstyle (fennec) while having all the extra advantages of the flat cars, and because of its highest turn radius and other nice qualities for landing smoother, easier zapdashing and walldashing in most cases, theres a noticeable increase in my boost efficiency and positioning as well. this makes it my favorite car for handling neutral situations in the game where neither team really has an advantage. it also makes it very good for some defensive situations and off-the-ball offense as well) theres really only 2 downsides to this car. its still not quite as capable at shooting as large of a variety of effective shots as you can with the octane. its slightly more awkward to use in the air especially, which makes some ideas less effective than you can do with the octane. in effect, you have a bit less freedom to do whatever you want like you can in octane and instead are forced to play towards the Ace's strengths and use ONLY that particular playstyle if you want to be effective. you still absolutely can be effective... you can be extremely effective, its just that you have a reduced amount of options sometimes. and the other downside is that being a long car (and with your length pushed behind you more than normal), you become a bit easier of a demo target. this is still preventable in a large amount of cases without having to do anything crazy like flipping all the way out of your preferred position, but it is definitely something you have to be more careful of, especially for defending air dribble bumps (but it also has some nice ways to use the length to reach around the outside of a bump as well, so it about evens out) also, as a workshop map speedrunner, its the perfect car for a lot of speedruns. again, fastest car type (and a very capable car type for some specific skills like pinches and flicks), but without the awkwardness and floppiness of its extra long nose or being too flat on the ground to perfectly control your touches.

I really hope this does bring something new to the meta. Would love to see some people using the Primo. But also... I think what would really change things is if they do what they have been doing with hitboxes to a car... That everyone can get their hands on for free. Like by giving away a car body with an adjusted hitbox in an event similar to the way they gave away the Redline car body for free in that event they had a ways back. if it's good... And Everyone can get it... Maybe some pros will try it out and Boom! The meta might actually get shaken up a bit. Ha ha.

As a beginner that started playing 3 days ago what hitbox do u think I should use the most