@@brandonmorales8485 Its understandable being emotional but in reality nowadays Avenge X, Avenger Y, Z .... ... etc don't stand a chance as they're too soft in the market.
James, you have my greatest respect for what you have shared with the airguning community. This last video is from your heart and people will love it or turn it against you. I support you as always. Don't give up on the Avenge-x. We need people like you pointing out the flaws so Air Venturi will correct the problems. In reality you should be on their Pro Staff.
Let's not forget, he's not just an engineer; he's a seasoned professional who truly understands his craft. In fact, he confidently asserts that his expertise surpasses even those who manufacture the rifles. Despite his rugged appearance, resembling someone who could use a shave and a haircut, there's more than meets the eye. His mastery with firearms is evident, and while some may notice a hint of rust on the screws, rest assured, this engineer is well aware that a bit of patina on a PCP air rifle poses no safety concerns
You titled this the truth about air Venturi avenger an avenge X. It should've be more like "The truth about my fragile ego and how people have been secretly hurting my feelings". You don't need to act like a gift to the air gun communing. I've watched a number of your videos and I like them but I watch a ton of videos. Maybe you have some doubt from some people because for instance you asked about a zero stop on a windage knob or you "did it by the book using the avenge X" yet you left the transfer port in the middle of H & L until I asked you about it. I phrased it in the form of a question because I already knew if I pointed it out directly youwere incorrect you wouldn't like it. I'm no engineer butI actually read the book.. nobody's perfect we all make mistakes. I think it's the way you present things that creates conflict. I don't see nearly the arguments in anybody else's comment section. I had to stop watching at 10 minutes and 39 seconds because you patted yourself enough on the back. I'm sure you'll get a decent amount of views due to the clickbait title though so no need for me to watch the rest. I'm sure you're much smarter then me but the self-esteem thing definitely needs work. Even got upset with the gentleman that element optics because he didn't recognize you and your All-Star shooting prowess. Albeit you did present facts that seemed like you couldn't zero the scope with it all the way to the right maxed out maxed out in elevation and then asking about a zero stop on the windage... If someone came to you with that same scenario you would assume it was the first time they picked up an air rifle and scope also. I think your presentation just rubs some people the wrong way. Seems to be a big gap in the market for a perfect air gun under $500 bucks maybe you should grab that market share and put a stranglehold on it with a custom high power PCP. I'd be interested for sure. I'm only 4 months into this PCP world information you feel better I don't trust you fully nor do I trust everything you say just because you put it on RU-vid. I did notice Steve got different results pushing the hammer spring past two and a half turns at higher reg pressure (so he says) but as you say he's in a different climate and maybe elevation. As a watcher of RU-vid you have two guys saying they are telling the truth and getting different results how are we supposed to accurately tell who is actually telling the truth, or maybe you both are with different experiences because you have different rifles and live in different areas. People are bringing up Steve's videos because it is slightly different from yours an comparison was inevitable. I don't make videos so my experience as a viewer had to be typed out and lengthy. Maybe I didn't say anything worth reading so if that's the case I apologize.
Buddy first off there's a big difference between me and you, I've been precision shooting airguns/firearms over 25 years mainly break barrels , 2017 I got into PCPs and kept note of everything I've done since then starting off with Beeman Chief $200 PCP one hole groups 22cal pellets at 50yd on several videos then moved on to UX Gauntlet and so on then I was a fully sponsored shooter and it wasnt working out cause THEY wanted me to sell the gun as MOST of the airgun channels do nowa days and I said I cant do that and not be able to share a truthful honest review and asked to have my Calculations on twist rates and I said no, ...secondly bringing up Element Optics has no revelancy here but I'll explain, I don't hold for windage whether you do or not that's your business....and so what why I asked why it didn't have a stop on it ,so you don't crank it too far getting a black shadow outline?? Stop is a stop no matter where its at, and I didn't shoot it with it cranked fully to one side right or left, then they wanted blame the Avenger, my gun for their mishap of NOT warning buyers before hand about you may need to have an MOA rail/scope tilt, and nowhere in product description on any web page says that UNTIL you read the manual after you bought the scope ...which isn't right but you want to blame me? Yea right dude come on AND forgot the part where I told Shane and Matt Dubber thanks and no feelings ....then you want to bring up my Avenge X ? Didn't I tell you like 2x I left it there out of the box so I can see how it shoots and experience it how a NEW shooter comes to the market , you say now wanted to point that out so bad how wrong I was , dude get out of here...and yes my shooting is on par ? Since you mentioned it, I mean the Avenge X untuned out of the box I shot WAY better than MOST people who like to mess with me so yea I take pride in my shooting....especially when it comes to hunting and taking a life ....so yea you're definitely coming at me all wrong, hope this settles it up for you the cause the airgun industry is a setup and you'd be OK with airgun companies offer the wrong parts to supposedly fix your problem but it brakes your gun ??? Man you're killn me here....I wanna make a blind joke but I'm not going to do that ...I just can't believe how it's not so obvious to you...but of course it's my fault
@@ALLABOUTAIRGUNSyou're right we definitely are not the same and I don't think that I said we were. I said we all make mistakes. You asked for zero stop on the element optic scope not a stop to stop it from bringing it too far to the edge. You wanted an exact stop like on the elevation turret. Whether you hold for wind or not I mean cool whatever bro physics doesn't apply to you, awesome. I don't hold for wind at 25 yards. I've never said you were a bad shooter ever so again your ego is getting mixed in with your whole reply. Cool you make some good shots on video although in reality nobody really has proof that you didn't video for 5 hours and cut out 4 hours and 53 minutes of attempts (trust issues on my part, I know ) whether it was your first shot or your 530 I never even cared nor tried to take it away from you. I'm coming at you as a viewer looking from the comfort of my own home. Just an opinion that's all. You stated you did it by the X weather the factory had the settings in the middle of H & L or you did has no bearing on the fact that you shooting it there was wrong. It seems even the simplest of things you have a hard time accepting you did it wrong. It's not a big deal.. if you would have read the book before shooting the rifle you would have known this. I'm sure with your amazing engineering background and 25 years of precision shooting you thought to yourself there's nothing in that book that could teach me anything. Maybe I'm wrong. Again just an opinion from a totally unbiased viewer. Make all the jokes. What's the joke about I'm blind? I overpaid for a plstic piece of 3d printed Barrel band with only three screws? Or who knows maybe one of the other 8 billion mistakes I've made in my life so feel free if it's going to help you sleep tonight or make you feel better. I said nothing mean I am just giving my opinion on how you're coming across to me. Like an Egotistical know-it-all. Where do you have a ton of experience or not whether you're a top-of-the-line shooter or not whether you're an engineer none of it has been denied by me I'm letting you know how your attitude comes across on screen in my opinion. You have a hard time dealing with being wrong about anything ever. I'm not hating at all I wish you all the success. I'm actually looking forward to the day a custom engineered PCP gets released with your name on it I will be in line to purchase it.
None of my comments were about being ahead or winning they were strictly about sharing my opinion. Not every single thing is a competition to be won. I had no interest in winning or "being ahead" of anything. Nor do I have any bias or am I being a fanboy about anything/anyone. Ahead or not I think I will stop because I don't think I've changed a thing except wasted some of my own time. Thanks for your effort in sharing the content though regardless of the quality of the video I know it does take effort and work and also a brass set because people on the internet can be ruthlessly truthful.
Perfect follow up vid... appreciate your expertise and insight. I can only think that Air Venturi went the route they did because of meeting price point. Thanks much... Oh and I just subscribed...
I just ordered the avenger in 25 cal with the pro tune and overnight leak test so all this should be avoided, the tech at pyramid is gonna chronograph my 20 shots with the tune . I’m getting all this done so I won’t have to be sending the gun back for repair.
Im new to the party. My understanding is though that it needs a stronger spring? So why not just spend a couple bucks on a spring? I must be missing something.
$500 airgun I shouldn't have to tell them how to do it, makes no since buying a brand new car off the lot that you have to tune it or fix it before driving
What school of mechanical engineering did you graduate from? Real mechanical engineers use a LOT of math & physics. If your work uniform has your name sewn on it, you're probably not a real mechanical engineer...
@@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS - still waiting to hear about your engineering education. I bet you have a brother who drives a garbage truck and tells everyone he is a sanitation engineer. Oh and just for the record, electricians are NOT electrical engineers. See how this works...?
@stevengoodman3498 Hey Steven how are you ? We are not doing so well here ! We had a tornado roll through here and we've been without internet ' cable ' phone and power foe 3 days now !! I had to Throw everything in the refrigerator out ! Even all the meat in the freezer !
Hey don't let haters get to you, most haven't got a life that is satisfying enough so they try to bring you down to their level. You are who you are and not what anyone says you are. I have seen your videos and I only benefited from doing so, enough said. Keep up the good job.
I’m still interested in the Avenger X Bullpup 25cal…was hoping you gave more info on how to fix the issue. Is it simply replacing that spring? If so where can I get one? Thx
Alien Airguns has a HD spring on ebay. It really needs supporting mods to be able to use it though. Only issue i had with the stock spring i broke 2 of them. Other than that there’s nothing wrong with it. Adding washers like he did is the same as adjusting it. Both preload the spring when cocked. I wanted to be wrong but i tried it out myself. I was setup with the 22, HS 3, had the JTS 21’s at about 880. Backed it all the way out and installed a 1/8 thick washer. Was now getting about 870 with the washer, 0 on the HS. So whether i had the washer at 0 or no washer +3 = similar outcome. The AVx has about 8.5 turns on the HS. A washer would let you compress it more than the 8.5. If thats what you wanted to do. Fwiw i had mine at 7.5 and it shattered after about 2 mags haha.
Imo the 25 is fine. The 22 lacks power. PA claims 49 Fpe with 25 grain pellets. Most i could muster up was 40 FPE. Up and down the reg and HS settings. I even installed a HD spring, i did get it up to about 43 but the spring was too much for the valve and it wasted air. I can shoot the 25 cal 25 grain pellets at 2200 reg and 4.5 on HS at 43 fpe. 29 grain about the same. Haven’t even tried going up because tuned almost perfectly and still get about 40 shots with the tube. Only difference besides the caliber obviously.. the barrel port is larger in the 25. Going to open the 22 port to match the 25’s and see if that makes a difference. Eventually i want to use the HD spring, switch to the bottle and add the extended plenum. Ive seen close to 100 FPE out the avenger/X with these mods.
Some people can walk out into the wind blowing hard, and say the wind isn't blowing. Stay true to yourself. True fans know your straight up as they come. God bless 🙏
good new yar , dont worry be happy , tell me which pcp gun is without trouble , they are all sensitive o rings , hammerssprings ,needs al lot off tuning , but they shoot the best.if all is in order . springers are more trusty , but need seals springs and mores scopes if jyou shoot a lott.
Greetings, I do understand where you are coming from relating to the Avenger X and I am glad that you took the time to put out the truth about the .25 cal. There is nothing bad about telling the truth..only just for those who do not want to listen and keep ignoring the truth. I will keep watching your videos. Thank you very much for taking the time to produce your educational videos. May God bless you.
Hay thanks for the video you did BTW you mentioned the that the spring was different in the new Air Venturi Avenger that they were silver I think you were saying the black spring was a better spring well I can't say mine has a black spring in the gun I haven't had it apart yet but the spare rebuild kit I purchased has a black spring and I just got the gun and kit last September 2023 maybe I'm just lucky I don't know but I'm defiantly going to be looking to see if the spring in the gun is black thanks again for great content
Hey buddy you can’t let what others say bother you or frustrate you. Don’t matter what you say there will always be someone that will have negativity towards whatever you say or do. You know one plus one is two, we all know that but unfortunately some idiot will argue that is not two. I watch your video and learn from them. And you are doing a good thing anytime you are putting accurate information and sharing your knowledge so don’t let words bother just brush them off and block them.
I have a .25 AV Bullpup.... I hate the stock... it sucks so bad...for me at least. Do you know if I can get like the synthetic stock...regular stock... that I can put the Bull pup to fit? AND what pcp air rifle would you recommend today... with all that you know about the guns....and about the X having lots of problems. Maybe AirForce???? or umerex? I don't wanna spend a lot of money... but I just don't wanna waste any of my money.... I want something with a little quality and quality build. Good Video I agree with your attitude... about how you know what's up... and you can see how the industry screws us... For myself, I don't know shit about most things.. I'm a pool player...and I do quite well at it... because I know cue ball control and how to move around the table with english & spin... most people that play don't have any idea about the finer points of the game. Anyways.... ROCK ON...
James I know your a smart guy buddy but why do you stick with the Avenger, not saying there not good because I know they are but you should treat yourself to a nice high end gun for instance, the TAIPAN TACTICAL or the EDGUN MATADOR or the TACTICAL CRICKET. I just know you would be so much happier with a high end gun you can still keep your avenger buddy.
@@blindj I remember but if you noticed I didn't mention FX at all because I know that people have lots of problams with them. I mentioned 3 airguns that are excellant and hardly ever hear of anybody having problams with and I own one of the 3 I mentioned and it always worked perfect except maybe a o ring after 3 years.
@@JohnVentarino-ey5ln I just wasn't sure if you happen to know about that FX video. I have heard good things about the rifles you mentioned. And honestly I was looking for a high-end rifle myself and was very skeptical of FX. I'm not rough on my equipment and I wanted something with a ton of power so I actually purchased another n FX Maverick very recently. So far it's working excellent other than an idiot user error/confusion on my part. Got my fingers crossed this almost 2K gun keeps doing well.
OK, so what spring is correct for the .25 AvengeX? Length? Wire diameter? Number of coils? I have two Avengers, a .177 and a .22. My .22 had issues and Air Venturi exchanged it right away. My .177 has a problem that I didn't notice right away. It's regulator refills slowly, very slowly. You and others have referred to it as creep, but I believe it is an unusually slow refill rate. I don't know why it's doing this. Is there a partially obstructed passageway? Is the air breathe hole in the regulator too small? Steve Shalley and others are able to tune their Avengers to 1800psi and less. Mine refills slowly at those pressures. It refills properly up around 2600psi. That is noisy and wastes air. (Am I doing something wrong?) The people at PyramydAir and Air Venturi have been very good, very helpful. I didn't notice this problem early on and I've been ill. I hope you say hello, James. I'm one of the people who have tried to earn from your videos. Thank you. R, Steve
@@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS Your description of an airgun being a pneumatic system is a different perspective. I'm going to watch your videos again with that concept in mind. Right now this conversation has been about PCP guns. So, with springers you'd have to make adjustments to the pneumatic system by changing the pellet weight? ...the resistance in the barrel to the air impulse? ..or change the spring? With a multi pump like a Crosman 760, Daisy 880, Benjamin 392, adjust the number of pumps to get the best pressure for the specific pellet being used (resistance being created)? That means that just because a multi pump can achieve a maximum velocity of X doesn't mean that it will perform, be accurate, at that max pressure, right? We certainly expect them to be accurate at all the different velocities possible throughout the range. I'm learning. Thank you, James. R, Steve.
@@steveinla8963 Tuning is to get the most consistent pellet placement, at a set distance, for a specific pellet. The highest velocity setting is rarely accurate for any airgun. [or firearm]. Most very high accuracy rifles are set - limited to lower velocities, so each shot can be as identical as possible. If adjustable for regulated pressure & valve spring (longer or shorter valve open time = volume of propellant air through valve ea. shot). Each pellet style & weight will have a "sweet spot", where the pellet consistently exits the barrel @ same velocity + Flys the same arc -> without wobbling, so each pellet hits very close to the same spot - at the same distance from the point of aim. Too high pressure-velocity-acceleration-air volume ... & pellet deforms, exits barrel, spins/wobbles - inconsistently. Too low & barrel vibration, flight path is likely inconsistent. PCP can be tuned (generally) to use specific desired pellets (hunt or paper). Always best to hit exact point of aim every shot = well tuned. How close you're able to match each trigger pull & point of aim is typically a significantly larger factor in the spread of pellets than a decent airgun should produce. For a pump, spring, or gas piston; different pellets (shape, weight) will produce more or less spread around the point of aim from different airguns. Tuning is testing & selecting a good pellet shape & weight to match the propulsion & barrel characteristics. Barrels do change over time too = clean?, lube?, wear? + seal leakage, spring fatigue, ... For me, 1/16th inch of spread is slightly smaller than my point of aim consistency, so using a good pellet for each purpose is more important than micro-tuning. But that's just me. For competitive shooting, rather than plinking or hunting - being finely tuned puts all the variation on the shooter!
Sounds like a dirty / wet air issue. Regulated air chamber refill time and consistency should be essentially instant & identical within a range of fill cylinder pressures sufficiently higher than the regulated pressure. Could be other factors creating a large loss of regulated air with each shot - but that should be fairly obvious ( OH Chit! the rifle hates me reaction). Depending on skills & knowledge = degass - back blow - cleaning -> & FILTERED DRY air recharge might do wonders ...
I had the same issue with the first reg. Replaced with a new one and its fine. Also can get the new one down to 1500.. original 1900. Imo the AVx like to be run around 2200, 2400 max. Higher just wastes air and is loud.
I bought an avenge x 177, wasn't impressed at all. Hs in 6.5 turns, still had pellet drop at 50 yds. From 8.4 to 10.5 grn. Moved regulator up to approximately 2100. No difference. Returned gun and got a refund. I have a hatsan flash qe in 177. 7 turns in on hs,any weight pellet is a straight shot at 50 yards. No drop whatsoever. With refund money i bought a gauntlet 2 30 caliber for 350.00 better gun for 150.00 less. Will never buy air venturi again
All this from a guy who claims there are different kinds of air that causes POI shift. POI shift is a function of PSI, not "Different types of air.". You are so full of it, and full of yourself.
You can read any other different form from air gun manufacturers hot versus cold air is definitely a factor and POI shift even if it's just shifting from up and down colder temperature will definitely slow down your pellet. Therefore changing its impact spot AKA POI shift
Yes, the PSI will change with the temperature , not arguing that, but that was not my point. James claimed (in another video) that mixing different air sources or air of different temperatures together would cause POI shift. It all mixes in the air chamber within seconds and becomes one temperature, one PSI, which is indicated on the gauge. Again, hot or cold, hand pump or compressor, PSI is the bottom line, not where the air comes from. James claims to be an engineer, but if he were he would know this.@@ansonia2006
a pcp gun depend on the air temp in the tank and the atmosfer , cold air is thicker dont flow as fast or has lesser pressure in the gun , high air pressure(outside) is slowing the projectile also down. and all that gives POI changes
Again! I'm not arguing that temp changes the PSI in any vessel. This is a known fact. James tried to make the argument that air from different sources (compressor, hand pump, air bottle) would cause a shift in POI because there are different air sources. Any air in any vessel will mix immediately and become one temp and the PSI will stabilize. Changes in PSI is what causes POI to shift, NOT where the air came from. James has some good info most of the time, but sometimes he is way off and tries to push some BS on us. I'm calling out the BS.@@peteralexben
@@dr.frankenphoon6254 if he ment that your right .but i think he ment if you are at sea level or 2000 meter above . That will not effect the pressure in the vessel .but the flight of the bullet will change .and also the power of a springer or pumpgun
I was excited with all the buzz about the Avenge-X. Was, past tense... I am glad I waited for stories like yours. Not everything is lollipops and puppies to us non-influencers. Keep up the good fight brother!
If you ask me all of them are ripping Us Off. Especially the compressor manufacturers. Every airgun that I have purchased came broken or not to specs. In amajor way.
I hear ya!!!! And people are ok with fixing something they have no clue about or claim that you have to fix it out of the box, ain't that some BS.....you don't go buy a brand new car just to work on it before you drive it off the dealership lot, but that's how majority of the airgun community is....and when people are not reporting the problems to the manufacturer, the issue will never be fixed
I've had people make agreements with me that they would work with me so they could learn a certain skill. They failed to keep their part of the agreement every time. After me making the effort over and over for a while I just withdrew from showing up at all. Looks like something similar is happening to you. It's a little different because you seem to be dealing with frustrating keyboard warriors. Just drop them from your view. On youtube you have the option to block those who are pests. When those are blocked you're left with the people who take your information and use it for their benefit. I made a bad (no name calling) pellet gun purchase and I'm now trying to get headed in the right direction. My requirements are not very stringent. I just need good enough accuracy with a .22 pellet rifle to hit a dime diameter dot consistently at about 60 yards. I've now learned I need a 1st focal plane scope and maybe need a MIL dot reticle. If I can achieve that without buying a PCP that's my preference. If I must get a PCP that's what I'll do. Thanks
I find myself with the same problem. People just don't know who I am! Yall don't realize I built the rocket Elon Musk used. I designed the Hadron Collider for CERN in Switzerland. I actually sold the design for Hybrid cars to Toyota. But yall don't know me! Fredrik Axelsson calls me everyday to get new ideas. I designed the FX IMPACT. But yall don't know me! So all you HATERS be quiet. YALL DON'T KNOW ME!!!!!!!
Hi James. I love your Videos. You are a good man. You are the reason why I getting in Pcp Airguns World. saw your Videos and buy my First pcp Avenger .25 and love it. Than the kral Jumbo, Big Horn and last the AEA Challenger pro. I Order from you the Oring kit for the Avenger also to Austria. I wish you the best. Exuce me for my Englisch. I Hope you unterstand me. 👍👍👍👍👍
so i keep listening to your videos. i do not know why. you piss me off when you say the things you say. and yeah i understand you are an engineer that works with the things airguns are made of. i am a structural engineer. so the eff what. thpeople that build these avengers and avenge-x are doing it for money.if you really do not like it then build a better one that cost the same and really prove that air venturi is ripping people off. do it for the same price and make it better. smiles doubt you have the ability friend. but you are so smart, . well it is like this, i have been completely blind for the last dozen years, and i tune my avenger by sound and feel alone. and i can tell you , on the avenger the hammerspring has a spot on every turn where it works a bit better than the whole rest of the turn. and on my avenger it is 1/8th of a turn so at 1and 1/8th it is quieter which means it is working less so thus working better, at 2 and an 8th it does the same and so on and so on. but it depends on what you are trying to acomplish as to which turn you go to and where on that turn you leave the hammerspring. personally i like a regulator setting of about 2680-2685 psi it is optimum for me using a compresser. but not so easy to use a hand pump. and this means i have to put the hammerspring at turn 5 but not 5 . 5 and 1/8th gives me quieter response than 5 and 3/4ths which is what steve says to do , but i get the same energy 58fpe with 5 and 1/8th turn as with 5 and 34ths turn but the avenger is quieter because my avenger has some imperfection at that 8th of every turn where it just works better there. so instead of just using the manual try knowing your avenger because i am sure they are all different. find that place on each turn where the hammerspring works better because that is probably where the coil of the spring begins so that would be where the tension should begin from is that not correct mr engineer? these things all matter and i am blind and know this. of course i try to be humble also, even though my I Q averages 163. with a block theory of 219 and a mathmatics of 179 with the rest being lower the average is 163. so i am not shabby myself. i build bridges blind stabilizing structural loads at speed with multiple vehicles use . so yeah i get it, an engineer is some one to listen to. but take tim e to notice the small stuff too. now i have not bought an avenge x at all because i was listening to the avengex videos and something seemed off to me. i like .25cal and not .22 cal in the avenger platform. in .22 i choose the AEA challenger longstock platform . it gives 63fpe with a 40gr hollowpoint slug (it dont like pellets) and you do not need to adjust the power wheel at all. just shoot it and at a 3600psi fill it gives 24-30 shots at that energy. if you want to get different results it does not come with a reg but you can get a reg kit for it, but it is an internal reg and it is not needed, just change the lead weight and or the fill pressure cause it can take 4500psi but it likes 3600psi so changing the pressure will net different results. thus different accuracy. and using a heavier weight slug will give you better accuracy. the 40 gr hnn hollowpoints i use bring the velocity to between 912 and 921 usually. which is alot for such a heavy slug out of a .22cal(.217 dia... well i wont gripe anymore, just please find some humility in yourself because god does not like a pompus azz of a man he tends to make people like that fall on their faces. so at least try to be humble please. and thank you. cannot wait to listen to your future videos without the pride. smiles, and yeah we know you are intelligent, SO, smiles giggles and wink. take care and be blessed. the last word @airgunz_militia you tube
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS There seems to be some sort of catch 22 on a lot of these rifles . I got quite a few now. Each one has had its own little issue or two & 1 even turned out to be junk . But I did keep it for a couple parts ....that do work on another rifle .... I'm hearing ya .....
So the original air venturi avenger doesn't have an issue in 25 caliber right? I might just grab one of them and the tactical rail kit compared to the tactical avenge x... Thank you
steve said in his vid that the tunes are a just a base line but you will hav to shoot urs to see what urs likes. also as much as you hav talked up the avenger it doesnt make sence that you would bash the x for no reason. thanx for being honest
I have reasoning and evidence for Avenge x, but people always give out Steve tunes as its set in stone and thats not how it is...they forget other half what he said
hey buddy, i trust you and your opinions. i have both the avenger and aveng-x in .25. my avenger is heavily modified, love that gun . i just purchased an avenge-x. have hardly shot to date. have the terminator stock and accessories on it. my question to you is where do i get an updated hammer spring for it? also should mention that i have an fx m3 , also in .25( and a AEA challenger bull pup-in .25). that avenger will shoot as well as the m3 out to 75 yards!
Ooh no I'm not saying fx is not good they just always seem to have little problams but I know there powerful and very accurate but there's alot of people I see in the comments that have problams alot with them even right out of the box. But the ones that work good with no problams are excellant guns but there very complicated and hard to work on and that's why I never bought one or I would have. I've owned 3 EDGUNS and sold 2 of them because I don't feel the purpose of owning to many because you really only use one and that's why I kept the one because it's better to get use to one and know everything about it. And the Taipan airguns and the Cricket airguns are the same way very reliable and dependable and easy to work on if a o ring or something goes bad in them. FX guns are so many parts and o rings in them that you have to be mechanically handy or you have to send it to FX to get fixed and I wouldn't want to box up a 2 thousand dollar gun and ship it back.
