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How to Get the Air Venturi Avenger to Shoot Slugs - Tight groups!!! 

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@redgum1340
@redgum1340 2 года назад
Very interesting. However I don't understand the part about having the barrel angled up or down in relation to accuracy. A do understand the barrel being 'free floating' and that's where I believe you are getting the better accuracy. This is a well known fact. Moving the barrel up or down is simply related to the weight of the projectile, the power pushing the projectile and the distance the projectile needs to travel. If you truly think otherwise, please explain in a more specific detail. Much appreciated
@wamikerand
@wamikerand Год назад
Not sure in subsonic speed if it matters the same as in a rifle, but I would guess it’s a barrel harmonica thing more than anything else.
@josemoreno5758
@josemoreno5758 2 года назад
Regardless if you dropped barrel you would have to compensate bty tilting gun up to make up slight drop, the accuracy changed due to harmonics not the fact that you lowered barrel unless you also change velocity
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
When the barrel is pointing too far up using slugs the downrange impact velocity is less then when the barrel is level or not pointing high...did it with pellets and shows up to a ~30fps difference per shot @ 50yd ...when you take it out to 100yd its even more...
@mspiredm3
@mspiredm3 2 года назад
I agree with Jose, you solved the issue with something else, has nothing to do with the angle of the barrel. The angle being changed might have may solved harmonic or other issues. Your comment about shooting at a higher arc and gravity having more of an effect is incorrect as well.
@mauricenations7511
@mauricenations7511 2 года назад
Thanks for some more great info. Enjoyed the video.
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@tommanfs6843
@tommanfs6843 2 года назад
thank you james ........ more great content ...... please keep the videos coming
@gmanneod8085
@gmanneod8085 2 года назад
James you put out some of the best Avenger content. Always stretching the envelope! Thanks
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
Thanks!
@numizaairguns1373
@numizaairguns1373 2 года назад
Nice shooting. I have been test free floating barrel on my Avenger.22 to shoots slugs and I have good results...
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
Right on thanks Nuno
@allanmingee9870
@allanmingee9870 2 года назад
Good you found that improvement on that particular rifle,as with many standard firearms,freefloated barrels are the ticket to accuracy.It’s all about Harmonic vibrations 👍🏻
@johnnybbgunner2136
@johnnybbgunner2136 Год назад
I am using the .217 slugs in my NOTOS with great success so far short range and really need to go and pay $20 for a range day.
@heathhalfhill6401
@heathhalfhill6401 11 месяцев назад
Air Velocity Sport slugs size .216 & .2165 shoot incredible out of these Nova Vista barrels as do the same size in NSA and mine prefer slugs between 17-22 grains. Right now I’m using NSA 20.2 grain .2165s and they are extremely accurate at 100 yards. Hopes this helps.
@johnnybbgunner2136
@johnnybbgunner2136 Год назад
I just started shooting slugs short range and already like them.
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 Год назад
Every bullet, pellet and slug, heavy or lightweight, drops downward at the same speed, for some reason. To know that speed, hold one of those in the hand and let go. From the barrel it drops at exactly that speed, regardless of forward velocity. The greater the distance to the target, the more time the pellet is in the air, so the more time the pellet has to drop. A sniper has to maintain a very big holdover, because his bullet has to cover so much time and distance. A high curved trajectory effects bullet/pellet/slug accuracy zero. Some of the most accurate pellet guns shoot quite slowly by design, so must be aimed higher than a fast shooting gun. Yet they're very accurate. The artillery given by the western countries to Ukraine are exceptionally accurate, yet some rounds are sent at a very high trajectory. Again, high trajectory, per se, effects round accuracy Zero. You made 1 change to the rifle, James. The environment didn't change. Your noteworthy abilities likely didn't suddenly improve. So removing the set screws may have caused the increase in accuracy, by effecting the barrel harmonics. Maybe not if the barrel is held by the shroud anywhere along the shroud length. But you didn't demonstrate the gun/slug accuracy to us before removing the screws.
@mikephelan5940
@mikephelan5940 Год назад
Gravity = 9.8 meters/second/second
@trollhunter7764
@trollhunter7764 Год назад
One-hundred-percent inaccurate information slugs do not lose more energy than pellets the heavier they are the more energy they carry to the target.
@rickrazz7136
@rickrazz7136 Год назад
James, how is pellet accuracy affected after this change?
@johnnybbgunner2136
@johnnybbgunner2136 Год назад
Great shooting.🤠
@airenthusiast1071
@airenthusiast1071 2 года назад
Slugs absolutely do not burn energy as fast as pellets.
@clintsummers9728
@clintsummers9728 6 месяцев назад
This dude makes me lol. While he may have a great understanding of pneumatics, his understanding of ballistics is comical.
@airgunsofidaho4886
@airgunsofidaho4886 2 года назад
7:01 😆 nice group though
@Backin_Theday
@Backin_Theday 2 года назад
My Armada is deadly at distance with pellets but all goes to crap with anything that resembles a slug. I may play with shroud removal or removal of the front support, to see if I can get the barrel to resonate properly.
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
Right on!
@Indictedheart
@Indictedheart Год назад
I am trying to decide between the air ventur avenger or benjamin armada, but tbh i want a semi-Automatic, but can't find a quality one for under $800
@NorthFloridaAirGunner
@NorthFloridaAirGunner 2 года назад
I don't think the origin has that issue. The barrel sits slightly loose In the barrel band already. Seems to shoot .25cal slugs pretty good.
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
Awesome!
@corycampbell1013
@corycampbell1013 2 года назад
Well done, new information again,thank you so much for your time and effort and all you do for the airgun world ,you are appreciated
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
Thanks!
@anthonypfalzgraf1264
@anthonypfalzgraf1264 2 года назад
Does your POI change from one day shooting until the next shooting?
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
If there is a significant weather change I don't have poi shift just my groups open up
@tnsharpshooter8517
@tnsharpshooter8517 2 месяца назад
So how would I shoot an elevated shot using slugs and get performance? Hmm I can do with my 22 lr. And my 17 hm2. How does the slug know it’s pointed upwards? Must be a smart slug. Hmmm The slug is also pointed upwards above line of sight. Why? Cause it drops too just like a pellet and bullet out of a centerfire.
@vamonosdecaceria5005
@vamonosdecaceria5005 2 года назад
Ola amigo Mi avenger tiene 4 vueltas del martillo en total para 1800 psi cuantas vueltas me recomienda darle al resorte
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
four to 5 turns is probably good for that...if you're shooting slugs , pellets you can turn it back
@vamonosdecaceria5005
@vamonosdecaceria5005 2 года назад
@@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS para diablos 14 gr tengo el regulador a 1800 y dos vueltas de afuera asia dentro qué tal está
@ADAM-qr7bi
@ADAM-qr7bi 9 месяцев назад
8:00 TO FIND OUT WHAT HE DID
@wes1spence
@wes1spence Год назад
I am having trouble understanding your technic. The barrel does not touch the shroud. If anything I use grommets to stiffen my bull pup barrel to the shroud to stiffen the barrel. Shoots great. I have the 25 cal. I use the terminador Air guns kit. Have had point of impact shift with stock chassis flex. Now gun is ridged. But whatever works for you have at it. Good hunting.
@shadowpuppet8007
@shadowpuppet8007 Год назад
do i need to point out that is the barrel shroud not the barrel? or that in your newest video you are selling a barrel band which will defeat everything you just said in this video.
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS Год назад
Lol ...
@seansmith5082
@seansmith5082 Год назад
Nothing you said made sense. The barrel is still not free floating. The arce of the shot doesn't affect the bullet proformance at all. It's not the slugs flight is nose up.
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS Год назад
ok that's funny cause what I can do with slugs and pellets is unheard of...especially in budget guns, and I have valid of proof of my methods
@Viking_X
@Viking_X 2 года назад
Does this relate to the .177 also?
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
Not sure, I havent checked just seen most people have problems with slugs in 22
@sonnyhelms2962
@sonnyhelms2962 Год назад
So even the newer Avengers you just take those screws out ?
@francovoges3645
@francovoges3645 2 года назад
You removed the two white balls in font of the screws that push the shroud up onto the barrel band ?
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
I removed the screws all the way out on mine
@gannetpontjowinoto6733
@gannetpontjowinoto6733 2 года назад
The newer version has two plastic/silicon balls at the tip of the screw to protect the tube .. the older version doesnt have those balls.
@heithwatkins
@heithwatkins 2 года назад
Thanks brother. Mine in 177cal loves Nielsen 12.5 slugs. 🎯 This is extremely interesting. This is the engineering at its finest. You just presented something I haven't seen before. This is exactly why I watch your videos. ❤💯
@mspiredm3
@mspiredm3 2 года назад
Mine too
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
Thanks!
@topdragster365w
@topdragster365w Год назад
The bullpup shoot slugs diff than the rifle ?
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS Год назад
when using the barrel band, the position is different per instructions in the manual than the rifle
@heathhalfhill6401
@heathhalfhill6401 11 месяцев назад
On my Avenger .22 cal bullpup I use a barrel band and NSA .2165 dia 20.2 grain slugs reg set at 2300 psi and the hammer spring about 3 turns in and it holds MOA at 100 yards. It also has the adapter/moderator combo from Buck Rail that cost like 38-40$ shipped to me. For the money these Avenger series long and bullpup are very hard to beat.
@albertopapi4445
@albertopapi4445 2 года назад
Greetings, Great information and thank you for taking your time. Q: Can you make a video showing step by step on how to adjust the trigger? I want to take the long play of the trigger so it would be short instead of a long pull to reach the 2nd stage. So, far nobody has explained step be step. We all owners of the Avenger will appreciated your expertise. Thank you.
@jeansandmyshirt
@jeansandmyshirt 8 месяцев назад
Get the avenge x. It'd be better at shooting slugs
@jimihendrix5576
@jimihendrix5576 Год назад
Moving the shroud does not move the barrel since the shroud is attached to a spacer at the rear of the barrel that can pivot a little on the barrel itself. No barrel on anything ever made is "free floating" if it touches anything but the receiver. 10 minutes worth of gibberish because you changed the barrel harmonics without understanding what you're doing. Everything you said was nonsense.
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS Год назад
Lol ok ...my shooting speaks for itself
@jimihendrix5576
@jimihendrix5576 Год назад
@@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS I agree, you can shoot well without understanding.
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS Год назад
@@jimihendrix5576 oh I definitely understand...see the newest uploads after this video just to prove my point with the barrel being angled higher or lower with a bore sighter with or without the barrel band set screws "moving your scope pt2"....also shooting completely free floating barrel no shroud getting 1/2moa at 50yd because I can...
@ryanschoening6657
@ryanschoening6657 Год назад
Your wrong bro you doing that didn't change the barrel angel that's just thr shroud the barrel is not attached to the chroud in anyway inside that gun sorry boss your barrel sits like 4 inches inside the end of the shroud. So you doing thar to the shroud isn't adding any down angle to you barrel
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS Год назад
Hmmm...the following videos I did after this proved it changed, I know the Avenger very very well
@ernestm3513
@ernestm3513 2 года назад
😂🤣😂🤣
@barney8567
@barney8567 Год назад
Took too long to get to the point... It was like watching an addict scour the ground because he dropped his pocket. Or some click bait... "You wouldn't believe what removing this one thing can do... And 5000 clicks later it's still the same story. You might be right you might be wrong... I'll never know. Later bro.
@coryb6722
@coryb6722 Год назад
the funny thing about youtube is you can fast forward the video
@barney8567
@barney8567 Год назад
@@coryb6722 True but fast forwarding through such click bait for the hope of finding the point without the help of Timeline markers is tedious at best... And a complete waste of time if you either can't find it or the author never gets there... I understand build up to help with algorithms but that tactic is a bit outdated since the arrival of TikTok. Now you're expected to get to the point a little sooner. And yes that includes me and my tendency to write books for txt, etc. Of course I'm old (44) and going senile lol. But I bet the longer I write the less interested you are in listening to what I have to say... Which is my only point. Particularly when I'm not really saying much of anything... And only try to lead to a point of saying that at some point I may say something. And as you use your brain to fast forward these words to see if I have yet to of said. Anything in the midst of my saying things. What if I already said the thing I was supposed to say... Should you rewind to try and find what was said. And how long would you say, that you would care to stay.. and spend your hard earned day... Caring to listen to anything I have to say. If I clearly don't care enough to say it. Or maybe I just don't have any attention span. So yeah I was rude my apologies but it felt like wasted time I will never get back... Just like it is for anyone who reads this 😜
@garythompson8867
@garythompson8867 Год назад
​@@barney8567 lol
@johnnybbgunner2136
@johnnybbgunner2136 Год назад
Slugs being much heavier will drop faster.
@customcutter100
@customcutter100 2 года назад
So why didn't you call the first shot as a "sighter"? Try it again with your action cam mounted. Call the shot/group before you start shooting and show all 3 camera angles. Awful quick walk for 100yds, and no pic of a laser yardage. Hmmmmmm.....
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS
@ALLABOUTAIRGUNS 2 года назад
Count the steps...I dont lie about my range and shoot at 100yd in several other videos at same spot
@jasonc3308
@jasonc3308 Год назад
My avenger loves slugs shoots them perfect I didn’t have to do that.
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