THE TRUTH: Gt Goku Vs Super Goku | Who Wins? 

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I wanted to ask you official divine can you please do a vivideo about anime medaka box najimi ajimu please ps super videos you brothers do congratulations 🎊

and one other thing for super goku, don’t mix anime and manga stuff, just use one or the other

Same it made me a remember I’m a hardcore DRAGONBALL FAN again!!!!!

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I got that too bro

Honestly, it was pretty cool Kazi and official divine. Spit some of the hardest bars I ever heard

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would be cuz it would be reliable unlike some other Powe scaling vids for any anime

Yea I agree

Nah, I'd say SsjG infinite SsjB infinite×50 SsjBKk infinite×1,000 Ssj4 infinite×25,000 UIomen infinite×500,000 Ssj4 LB infinite×400M MUI infinite×750M PUI infinite×5B TUI infinite×20B

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Doubl3DoubleBro just put up a bunch of random numbers 😂

He’s not stronger😭these calculations are off asf

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​@@Unyieldingwilli think you mistake me for someone who gives a shit so cry harder

@@Unyieldingwill i don't like gt but gt goku is definitely stronger

@@oskarbartosewicz89 no it’s not gt goku would get washed by base super goku for example he stated these characters are outerversal when we know there not to mention he’s basically saying there stronger than cc and xeno goku who btw cc goku one shotted xeno goku which is gt goku

To be fair, DBZ Goku definitely had the same mindset as GT Goku in that sense. He mastered super saiyan with gohan then achieved ssj2 and 3 after 7 years of training.

@@Nice_Person7379 That is true. Why the writers changed him will never make sense. I honestly think Z should’ve led to GT and Super be its own thing fully and not a recreation.

So you just explained every version of goku even super goku goes and perfect his forms through training 💀

Super Goku: I need to continue unlocking new forms of power to get stronger..! 😠 GT Goku: I'll just train the hell out of my base. 😊 Oh look, SS4!

@@EnnuiPilgrim 💀 the irony

Just watch the sub and skip the filler

That’s what most say about super goku

How would you have written it?

​@@EnnuiPilgrimi prob not write super goku to forget what meditation is, nor have deity characters that can reverse time on the z fighters side.

​@@sugondeez1708 I like Super still, and some of what Goku did in the TOP, was amazing. But, some of the way Goku's character have been written have made him look very dumb at times. He was goofy in Z, not dumb the way he acts in super sometimes. I like Vegeta's character progression in Super more than Goku's.

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@@_KAZI you're welcome man

What do you mean his editing 3:45 and 15:17 minutes were taken out of the RAPS of the m4rkim chanel a brazilian chanel search up Gt goku rap m4rkim Poder dragon ball rap m4rkim Not cool hes taking credits for other guys work

Bruh 15:55 is also from the rap poder from m4rkim not cool to take credits for someone esses work

16:30 also from the rap of goku GT and poder of m4rkim

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@@_KAZI Snm Imma hold you to that

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No

No thanks

ssj4 definitely the coolest one

@@oskarbartosewicz89 not for everyone

No tf it doesn't LMFAOOOOOOOO

@jaylindsey9779 so hakai an ability of complete erasure is different than revenge death ball with the ability of complete erasure

@@jaylindsey9779Watch GT in Japanese

​@@jaylindsey9779you got OBLITERATED

This shows that GT fans are stupid as shit. How can the revenge death ball be the same as Hakai? makes no sense. Goku SSJ4 was hit directly by the revenge death ball and survived without any damage. You can't just take Hakai like you can a Ki attack. The only thing Hakai isn't concerned with is immortals and GT Goku isn't immortal. If you now come to the Toppo vs Vegeta fight I can quickly refute why Vegeta was able to block the Hakai attacks. Toppo was/is not a real God of Destruction YET, which means his Hakai is not even close to being on the level of a God of Destruction. The Hakai attack on Frieza was also not the full Hakai energy of the god, which is why Frieza survived that. Think logically, boy. Super Goku would finish GT in less than 5 episodes and that WITHOUT SSB.

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@@_KAZI I got my money on GT

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I wanted to ask you can you do a video about anime medaka box anime characters kurokami please

I have a question can manga Vegeta separate cosmic Armor Superman with his spirit fussioun technique?

I want to know how you got those numbers please I loved the vid a banger as al ways 🎉

Facts, that line is cold 🥶

That's speculation, the multiplier for SSJG wasn't confirmed, they only confirmed that SSGSS was 50x SSJG and SSGSSE is 20x SSGSS Im not sure for MUI but I do remember seeing someone say it was 300Mx Base, so it might also be speculation

@RandomSkull69420 well it's the closest thing to the truth we got and I think it was an information shared by v-jump but I'm not sure anyway it's the most cummom one I see people use so meh

the difficulty with super saiyan god is that scalers have to figure out the multiplier to get boo saga goku from galaxy level to universal

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Lol I was like okay why's there a bunch of blank area and then I seen that 🤣

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How is gt goku stronger when nobody have universal feats but omegea shenron and even then ita not specifically atated they said OVER TIME he will deattoy the universe its just d u m ramble

@@Dakingalbert2 if u hav enough energy to destroy the universe jus by existing it means u can 1 shot that same universe if u wanted to or tried to, It's like this jus say I'm trying to melt an ice cube and I jus place it on my hand yh it will melt eventually but if I place both my hands over it and blow into it then it'll melt much faster that's the same concept here

Yes

That’d be sick. Ultra Vegito power level is crazy crazy 😂

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I'd rather they focus on quality content 😂😂😂

To broken

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That’s what I’m saying 🤣

thank you man🙏

Same

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lmk what u think of the end result 🙏

@@_KAZI i enjoyed the vid. i am abit skeptical with gt goku winning but enjoyed it nonetheless

@@okaradragonicsaiyan if u want u can tell me what ur confused about or need more clarification on and i’ll be happy to explain

@@_KAZI well ok. Where does the IT Realm exist? From the scan showed when referring to this, it says "located between dimensions", if its indeed referring to IT realm then the Afterlife Transcending dimensions would be put above it. if not, and its referring to Sugoroku Space, what scan proves this claim of beyond the macrocosm? and finally, wouldnt the timeline contain all of time, space and dimensions below? it contains macrocosms, the multiverse, zenos palace etc etc, which would mean it would contain this realm too? I'm just not sure with what was shown? it would help a bunch 👍 "The worlds shown in fig 1." needs more context idk with that, the scan just shows htc and sugoroku

@@okaradragonicsaiyan you got discord right? i can explain it there. pretty sure u have mine

well to be fair he only used the anime ur until the broly movie, he used manga for moro and granolah arc, so he has gt goku above super goku in general since granolah arc tui goku is his strongest version from super so far

​@@muhanaveed1999Manga Super Goku is weak as hell lol lacking many of the feats and statements from the anime.

@@waffleten9750 and the same thing vice versa,regardless it doesn’t matter, Moro arc dbs manga goku can be scaled above his dbs broly movie counterpart from the anime, and he gets stronger from there, if u wanna say that granola arc goku from the anime in the future is above the one we saw in the manga, then sure, but the latest piece of canon anime content we’ve gotten for goku is the dbs broly movie, manga goku current is definitely above broly movie goku, so it doesn’t change anything until the Moro and granola arcs are adapted into the anime

@@muhanaveed1999 No the fuck we cannot given we have seen Broly in the manga meaning the manga had it's own events try again. "and the same thing vice versa" Dog no shit The super anime isnt the manga.

If you are not having damaged brain then watch first 3 episodes of super. You are most likely gonna get your answer if you are not brain dead

Exactly is literally nit a debate they just slow or in denial ​@@loliconenjoyer9770

First and foremost gt is not Canon Akira toriyama or toyatoro WILL NEVER mention it along side they plans future past or present for the mere fact it's not something he ever seriously worked on and is in fact NON CANON gt is literally heroes before db heroes to put it in simple terms I'm shocked u didn't k now this already but call urself a db fan

@@Dakingalbert2 no. Dont compare gt to heroes "db fan". Heroes is uncanon and was always this way, its just shitty worst written promo anime. GT was canon, isnt, but was. If I have to explain why, then dont call yourself db fan.

@loliconenjoyer9770 you don't call.your self a dragonball fan calling gt Canon is blatant disrespect to Akira toriyama WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO with GT out his own mouth w t f is u on kid just cuase u like the ssj4 design doesn't mean it's Canon only.thing that's CANON is the dragonball Manga consisting of dragonball and dragonball z and dragonball super plus it's movies is the only Canon db material heroes just like GT is a grand side show in the words of Akira the man himself

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that would be unfair tbh😭

I got 100 year time skip goku folding the grand priest

Bro went to the dragon ball realm its not even fair

Ima say one thing that dragon ball super lacks is power consistency. One moment goku use ssb kamehameha against berserk kale, then later taking her on again in ssj2. And for god ki, goku has a tendency to go ssb to match someone’s power level. Many times goku goes blue in anime because of the anime staff being lazy with other forms.

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Screw death battle

I agree

Death battle sucks they wanked superman

frrr death battle just makes trash statements gotten from their Death cast which is full of haters from each sides that dont know how to powerscale And then they use math and act like their smart while also disregarding the statements that they said Like SCREW DEATH BATTLE

all is crazy. ion like my first few but thank you so much😭🤝

Dnc, GT better Goku, better story, and better Vilians

Bro u living L.GT all plays after super means GT goku has mui and tui technically

Yes but Gt goku fought people who can shake outerversal realms which that feat you just show'd is hardly anything compared to gts

The one version of GT goku I think could win is 100 year time skip, or even the universal spirit bomb version. It's kinda my head canon ig, but another video I saw illustrated how he became a higher being somewhat during the end of omega shenron fight. He became completely invulnerable to his attacks, and the writers stated that they were trying to make it seem like that. Ig I just like thinking that GT goku is that strong at the end, the show has It's downsides but it's still very nostalgic for me

​@@Lea-nw3by wrong?

gotta agree w that

GT would genuinely rival super in terms of hype if the show didn’t keep goku as a kid forever and pan wasn’t a second mc

​@@_KAZIofc my g we all agree our monke is the goat!@

Super is better in both

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​@_KAZI I always felt that regardless of the complaints, it was always the best conclusion to goku's story thank you for showing my heart was not misplaced with gt I hope you have a wonderful day I will be subbing for more vids tfn ta ta for now ❤

Thank you so much

He has a stronger base with a better transformation and more experience

@@ShonenGoon how does he have a stronger base while dbs goku's base is literally ssg, same with experience dbs goku faced more trials and foes than gt goku if memory serves me right it has been a while since i watched gt

@TheKnight-nc7qn the guy in the video explains that the movie feats transfer to gt goku as well but beyond that there are a few reasons. 1 characters like lord luud are stated to be universal yet goku is able to fight him as a super saiyan then the sigma force are stated stronger than that but goku beats them in base.. same thing with rildo and he even absorbs the sigma force power iirc but that may have been just baby since he actually fed their power while in his test tube too. Suguroku space is actually stated to be an endless void of nothing and time doesn't even actually exist there. So its pretty similar to what ui goku shook with ui in dbs yet base gt goku one shotted the entire dimension. After the baby saga when super 17 is born it is stated to be the strongest machine mutant which the tuffle baby also was a machine mutant created by muu. So 17 at the start was stronger than golden great ape baby yet goku is somehow strong enough to actually fight and over power super 17 until 17 absorbs his energy and ends up surpassing even ss4 goku. Goku somehow closed the gap essentially from ss4 to base form during the 3 year timeskip and the ss4 multiplier is higher than god and blue both btw so goku doing this negates the entire premise of super goku being stronger from absorbing god into base. Goku then meets rage shenron who he states is stronger than anybody he has ever met and performs well initially although he won with luck. Rage also tanked a 10x Kamehameha which means he is massively stronger than goku at the time yet a few dragons later goku admits that nova pre transformation was easily the strongest shadow dragon and goku goes on to fight him in base and actually force nova to transform where goku does the same and eventually beats eis who is stronger than nova to the point where nova is afraid of eis killing him. To wrap it up goku also arguably surpassed ss4 gogeta in base when he entered the changed state during the spirit bomb because he was seen tanking minus energy balls from omega. So basically goku was already multiversal in base but basically gets like 4 massive amps in the show where his base form just surpassed his max power with ss4 from the previous arc or fight randomly. And the last he does it vs omega when all hope was lost is arguably one of the most disgusting jumps in power ever seen in dragonball history. Ultra full power ss4 goku was helpless vs omega yet after goku enters changed state he is tanking moves that required gogeta to deal with and this is just his new BASE power. End of baby arc or maybe the super 17 arc is where it would be a more fair fight but shadow dragon arc or last episode gt goku is literally just busted.

This first argument does not work Statements have to be enough Otherwise I could argue Technically Beerus and Goku's clash wasn't macrocosm level either Because nothing actually happened , the waves only managed to reach the kais realm, only destroyed a few planets, and despite whis and elder kai believing they would be destroyed in the next punch or so It failed to do so So nothing actually happened Vegeta in the z filler finger banged a planet out of existence And in z Kai and the manga he stated he would destroy the earth when Goku was beating him Yet his ape form couldn't barely harm the planet despite both of these Vegeta's being far more powerful than piccolo who one shot the moon in which case any blast stronger would do devestating damage to the earth yet they only make small craters We see Frieza destroy planet Vegeta in 1st form with one finger Yet in final form he failed to oneshot a planet and the planet exploded itself afterwards The only person who managed to destroy earth on screen was kid Buu so I guess Kid Buu is only planet level and everyone else was just bluffing

Also yes the kais wanted to run away immediately in super and didn't in GT But number 1 these were written by different people and therefore how the kais would react would be different but number 2 In both stories I believe it's elder kai who says there's no point to try There is no where to go in either case The Kai realm is really the farthest "known" in the macrocosm In both cases they acknowledge running would be pointless It also could once again simply be writing as in Super they also seemingly have plenty of time while the 2 are clashing making multiple shockwaves They do not try to leave at all

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Nah it's not after it's just a completely different continuity altogether, gt ain't even cannon to DB, DBZ or DBS

@@supersaiyansean9679 DBS is not canon to DBZ. DBS is its own universe. In the anime, the predecessor of DBS is Dragon Ball Kai and not DBZ. DBGT is the direct sequel to DBZ in the anime. In the manga, DBS also doesn't take place in the same universe as the OG manga. There is no canon in Dragon Ball, it doesn't make sense when there have been 2 bardocks since DBS and 2 different stories of Son Goku as a baby.

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Nah he wasn't

it was 23 mins and i was so tired of editing😭 but i can explain the multipliers if u want

@@_KAZI Hey man I totally understand that, but yeah I would love to hear your multiplier scaling so I can understand that point more.

@@grimmhuntersaiyan9365 gotchu. if you have no contentions with the original super Saiyan four multiplier of 1.6 billion. Then we can start from there. if you remember back in Dragon Ball, Z when Goku fight raditz. raditz gets an initial rid of Goku’s power when he arrives and proclaims, it’s 416. However, later, when Goku fires a Kamehameha it jumps to 924. This means that Goku gets a 2.2 times boost when he shoots a ki blast of that magnitude. Later Goku, fight against Vegeta and Vegeta and Goku were able to clash with their beams. But Vegeta goes from being weaker than KaioKen times three Goku to being even with a 2.2 times stronger Goku with a kamehameha. This means that the galick gun is at least 2.5 times stronger than the user. now this is important because in the fight with baby. goku was able to tank a galick gun point blank BEFORE getting full power. meaning goku is at least 1.2 times stronger than the galick gun (since in db u need to be bare minimum 1.2 times stronger to dominate ur opponent ex. vegeta and cui cui) this means goku is 3x stronger than baby. now when he reaches his full power he’s able to completely tank and absorb the flaming revenge dragonball into his body. which would be at least twice as strong as the galick gun. it’s even mentioned to be a negative spirit bomb. anyway this would make FULL POWER SSJ4 goku 9.6 billion times stronger than base. later, when Goku fights syn shenron. syn tanks goku x10 kamehameha which as we already established would be the x2.2 multiplied by 10 so x22. making syn 211 billion times stronger than base goku. now when goku goes ultra full power ssj4 he dominates syn blinded. so goku would be at least twice as strong as syn. making goku 422 billion times stronger than base goku. sorry for the essay. and i can go over super goku too😭

@@_KAZI That’s only for ssj4?! And you’re good with the essay man (I’m not people on twitter that lose their ability to read when they see something longer than a paragraph lol) I would love to hear the Super Goku scale too for the multiplier for UI

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***EDIT*** : Ok did more research and honestly, idk who is stronger. Change State Goku (Universal Spirit Bomb) already existed in a different plane as he transcended reality thus taking no damage from the outerversal Omega Shenron. Then he transcended AGAIN by absorbing the Dragonballs. This Goku might lose to CC or Zeno Goku before the time skip but its hard to quantify what his strength should be after training for 100years. Seeing how strong Goku got in just his last few years, its hard to imagine him not being stronger by orders of magnitude **ORIGINAL** "Yeah the only true outerversal Goku is Dragon God Goku (after he absorbs the dragonballs) since hes the only one who needs an avatar to exist within the macrocosms. Xeno from Super isnt even outerversal by definition and having outerversal feats doesnt make them outerversal by extension"

Xeno Goku or CC Goku are the strongest versions of goku lmao. Xeno Goku has better feats and CC Goku too then GT End Goku@@jdrmanmusiqking

@@lionsinofpridelordescanor2602 This comes from a lack of understanding about the nature of "Outerversal" characters. People like to throw "Outerversal" around like its candy but 100 Year Time Skip aka Dragon God Goku is the only version who requires an avatar to exist within the macrocosm. As far as i know, Xeno and CC Goku are themselves so they arent avatars. The entirety of their being fits into reality where thats not the case for the Dragon God The problem with powerscalers is that they slap on a multiplier to multiversal characters then call then "Outerversal" which is not how it works.. The concept of strength

@@jdrmanmusiqking I mean there is outerversal existence and then there is outerversal attack potency.

Not entirely true. Super makes subtle callbacks to even OG DBZ not just kai. Of course in the manga's case, it just follows the DB manga.

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Whatchu think?👀

@@_KAZI still watching

pretty fire vid tho

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