Dragon Ball GT vs Dragon Ball Super | The Anatomy of Anime (Review) 

When you realize Super 17’s hair got more care and attention than Pan’s character development.

You missed a very important comparison: Vegeta with moustache in GT vs Vegeta with beard in Super

I find your favourite villains of each series kinda funny. It almost felt like it boiled down to, which one is better? The Vegeta body snatcher or the Goku body snatcher?

I will never not think SSJ4 should have been canon. Besides the cool design, it was a real creative addition onto the concept of a Super Saiyan. Reincorporating the tail and Ozaru (*the actual main unique trait of Saiyans pre-SSJ*) into the Super Saiyan mythos is just such a cool direction, and really seems to tie their lore together. The Super Saiyan God stuff just feels tacked on to give them new hair color transformations. Here's this random ritual that unlocks GOD POWER! I don't even hate them, it just feels so creatively inferior to SSJ4.

GT vs Super Some people just want to watch the world burn.

Best line in both series? "DON'T SHOOT HE'S NOT *BLACK"* Edit: This did not age well...

I think a missed opportunity in GT during the ending is Goku not visiting/spending time with ChiChi. She would obviously not want to let him go and cook him loads, and eventually Goku could ask for his twelfth portion, only for Chichi to find the table empty by the time she's back. It would show that Goku cares for his wife a bit and say something about him since he chose to have her cooking as his last meal. Just a thought

Personally, Gt's ending feels like a "Goodbye" but Super's ending feels like a "see you later" kind of ending. By this I mean that one ending is more definitive that the other

Goku in GT: Gets turned into a child by black balls Goku in Super: Gets turned into a child by the writers (Disclaimer: This is a joke don't take it too seriously)

When he brought up Super’s humor all I could think of was “aaaahhhh Iforgotmytractorbye aaaaaaaahhhhh”

Honestly.. I just want ssj4 or a form of it to be canon in the super. Thank you.

GT wins for me. At least Goku felt consistent with how he was in Z as opposed to the Man-Child claiming to be Goku in Super. And one other thing to note, the End of Z is still canon, so all the stakes and Drama in Super feel hollow seeing as how we know how it’s all gonna play out in the end.

Baby: wants revenge on Saiyans, steals a saiyans body Black: Hates mortals and especially saiyans, steals a saiyans body

Baby: "I use the saiyans to destroy the saiyans"

I always thought Baby’s final look was interesting as he’s embraced the beastial side of the aliens that killed his world. A side even the remaining Saiyans neglect until this point in the story. It kind of was the ultimate slap in the face of the Saiyans in visuals alone. Idk I liked it, but Super Baby 2 is my fav of his styles.

I really hope they can make a canon version of GT like how they did Broly

Dang, I didn't know Mark liked starting World War 3 in the comment section

Whether you hate GT or not, you got to admit that the theme song as well as the instrumental alone is beautiful.

The problem in my opinion with both of them is that neither of them are focussing on the next generation. Like focus on Goten, Trunks and Gohan a bit more than just bringing them for humour or when you feel like it. I feel like Gohan could be made such a good and strong character especially since he defeated cell. Vegeta and Goku are awesome but they are getting old literally (since their like in their late 40's) and they should train their younger sons like Goku trained Gohan. I feel like Goku paid A Lot of attention to Gohan in terms of bonding and training together in comparison to Goten who just feels like his Gohan's younger brother and not Goku's son. They're meant to be 12 but look like they're 8 lol.

Dude baby is carrying the entirety of the GT rankings so hard

17 was the realist with that hair, let’s be honest long hair should always be getting in peoples way

One issue not touched on is that GT didn't actively damage any of dragonballs lore, where as dbs...gives me tingles in my back...

Dragon Ball Super was executed better and had more polish, but GT was creative and that ending is just something else

Literally the most rational argument I ever heard for GT vs. DBS. Most of the time the argument's either that DBS fans aren't true DB fans or that GT fans can't prefer the series because it's "not canon". Great vid!

"Stupid Super Goku" music always gets me I need an hour version of it

Gild: literally exists. Pan: “So you have chosen, abuse”

Its also good to note that GT was pretty much a fan made love letter to both dbz and the original dragon ball series. And they didnt have anything near the budget or clout super does, not to mention toriyama actually being involved. The fact that they can even be compared despite all that makes a massive argument for GT and makes me wonder how great it could've been if it did have those things

Don't forget Krillin and Roshi moments in Super, their episodes were great

GT Shin: *Saves everyone* Super Shin: *Carried on Goku's shoulder like a child*

I can't believe the serious Goku in the Buu Saga telling Goten and Trunks to stop fighting is the same Goku in Super...

I think the main issue that I had with Super was that it never really felt serious to me. I only watched got as a kid, so my memory might be wrong, but I had the highest meltdown when they were transferring everyone to another planet, and piccolo stayed.

You forgot the best Arc in DBS Purple Vegeta

I feel like dragon ball gt ending was the entire series coming full circle. "Until we meet again!" Childhoods ended that day

I actually really liked that GT was about the freaking DRAGON BALLS. Ever since Z started the Dragon Balls have been just a background item.

I always found the Goku black arc was more compelling. It was often a mystery to think what would you find out next.

This is like like discussing whether Zelda is about free exploration or about becoming the hero of legend

GT doesn’t have the president of China as a villain. So Super wins.

Trunks doing a genki dama with 30 people alive on earth and putting into his sword is the funniest shit ever

It's crazy how if you add the moro saga it blows gt out of the water in some of these categories

I like certain shit from GT and I like certain shit from Super, but neither are perfect

It’s so scary to me DBS started airing in 2015 like I felt like it was airing yesterday

I remembered one thing from GT in terms of character growth albeit minor, Vegeta was the first to suggest fusing into Gogeta, normally it took Goku bugging him into fusing.

Gt songs are masterpiece... And Nostalgic

Baby (the tuffles revenge against the saiyans) and the Shadow Dragons (the group getting a comeuppance for the over-reliance on the dragons balls, which was teased by elder kai in the buu arc) are such amazing ideas for villains. I find anything to do with saiyan lore so enthralling over all the god stuff. a lot of super felt like there were zero stakes and all the new multi-colored gods powers were so uninteresting. I hope eventually the series gets back to saiyan lore and we see more of broly, maybe a new iteration/retelling of baby, and a final satisfying tussle with frieza

GTs ending is like getting the math anwser right while doing non of the procedure

When vegeta moustache gets more character development than pan

OG dragon Ball and dragon Ball GT are the only ones that have ever made me cry and made me emotionally invested

I loved this review journey of last year. This is my second time watching all of them!

Opinions aside, I gotta say I really appreciate that GT had mostly consistent on model art. In most of the GT clips shown in this video the characters look good while on the Super clips half of them look really off and weird.

Mark: "GT Trunks is lit" Trunks GT: President of Capsule Corp. LMAO

You almost got me, but saying that Super's "Ending" was a better ending than GT's was the nail in the coffin man. Like, sure, you might be a GT hater and stuff, but I can't even try to believe that Super's "ending" was more impactful than GT's. Call it nostalgia or not, Super's "ending" doesn't excite me as much, nor it makes me tear up. GT's on the other hand felt like a proper ending. Sure, Super's "ending" isn't actually an ending, because they WILL milk the series further more FOR SURE, but like I said, I didn't felt remotely excited to see the future. I just "pray" that it is better than it was until now. If it gets the same treatment, I'll still be like "Cool.", and nothing more than that. GT's ending makes me think of the whole series in a single episode, seeing Goku kinda "retracing" his steps and his journey, while giving us a proper feeling of "Wow, this was the ending. I'm glad for this series as a whole, even despite some GT arcs being pretty mid or bad". Super's "ending" makes me think "Wow, Goku sure is strong huh haha. Back to my usual stuff now". The ending doesn't have much "character" as the GT one did. Therefore I HARDLY disagree with half (If not most) of the video's arguments. But everyone have their opinion on stuff like that, and honestly, no one here is particularly "right or wrong", since they both have a different approach and stuff like that. But I do think that GT feels way less of a "hype train" or a "cash grab" than Super, in most instances. Sure, GT completely tried to "surf" on DBZ's hype and stuff, because it was HUGE back then, but you can feel the passion in some instances throughout the anime, especially the most "common knowledge" thing here, which is the ending, that makes people tear until this day. Super in the other hand, sometimes feel jarring to watch, because you KNOW Goku will win, or IF he gets close to "dying", he will transform in Super Sayian fucking orange or SUPER MEGA ULTRA INSTINCT and beat the shit out of the antagonist. Super FEELS like it is just something you watch to unlock your neurons to some good old punch and magic spamming, other than watching for the story and stuff. My point is, Super is just a "hype driven anime", making you go "Cool." more than "Omg, what will happen after this?", which isn't a bad thing, but completely throws the development the characters had prior to Super. GT is more of an adventure anime, with some good fights here and there, but makes you feel pressed against a wall more times than Super ever did. It has it's "Deus Ex-Machina" moments, like the Super Saiyan 4 stuff and such, but I personally prefer getting 1 "overpowered form" (Or 2, if you also count Gogeta SSJ4) over about 3 overpowered forms (Discounting fusions, which add to the stupidity of the power level numbers), one getting more overpowered than the last one (And we all know that they won't stop making more forms as the show goes on). It honestly feels just like I said, you get "hyped" to see what ridiculous different form they will create for characters next time (Look at the new DBS Super Hero movie XD). It's not particularly a bad thing if you just want the action, but if you want ANYTHING OTHER than the action, you won't get much quality and development as it once had, in DB, DBZ and heck, even DBGT. I hope I didn't look like I wanted to offend anyone or anything, but just like Mark shared his opinions, I wanted to share mine. We're both probably "wrong", but there's no actual "right or wrong" in opinions, like I said, when it is a personal preference thing. And I also hope that I was able pass my thoughts and opinions straight, not making it redundant nor confusing to understand. I also grew up with this series being a huge part of my life, not just my childhood, so of course there is a bit of nostalgia trip still in me, but I honestly tried to throw most of the nostalgia out of the way as I wrote this comment, and try to not make it extremely biased, but also making sure that I got my points and arguments as I honestly feel like they are.

3:01 I just LOVE how funny Vegeta's face and expression is while he's explaining when both Battle of Gods films were made, implying how messed up it was, making Vegeta's expression here soo hilarious!! XDD

I like how the villains you discussed could be boiled down to Evil Vegeta vs Evil Goku

Super Mario Bros Z is the best sequel for DBZ.

I like how he didn't talk about Vegeta's characterization in GT

super did more entertainment for me than gt ever did for me even though gt had some interesting ideas it never fleshed out or really did anything for there narrative while super did and gave dragon ball a new future but one thing both series fail at is the fantastic world of dragon ball no longer feels lived in what I mean is what once was lands filled with thousands of stories to tell are now ignored and forgotten even though super has shown new worlds for adventure I don't see it ever going past goku or vegeta for adventures

Baby: "I will stop Saiyans from becoming rampaging apes and destroying planets! -- I will stop them by becoming a rampaging ape and destroying planets!!"

I like GT because it felt like Dragon Ball at the beginning, before Z. I grew up in Mexico and we had the original Dragon Ball air before Z, so GT had a more nostalgic feeling.

7:48 this goten edit will forever live rent-free inside my head

I know I’m late but I just found you channel and it’s great so i subbed love what your doing

I liked GT as a kid. They were back to adventures, but now in space. Everyone grew up and it was interesting how they changed. Goku running through villains in space made sense, they weren't a universal threat like Buu.

"Dragon Ball GT vs Dragon Ball Super" Also known as "Super Saiyan 4 vs Ultra Instinct"

Just finished super yesterday and i think its far better. The characters alone make it a better show. Beerus and whis are great. And goku and frieza teaming up in the last episode...are you fucking kidding me? Amazing.

I unironically want to find whatever that kazoo music is for the Stupid Super Goku segments.

I honestly came to tears when I heard the GT theme idk why

I think dragonball GT’s ending was a better ending to dragonball as a whole where dragonball super’s was a closing to dragonball super

Super hands down is better. GT is pretty much fan fiction

That dragonball lofi in the background is so 🔥

Watching gt: why are people dancing. Watching super: what happen to his face.

I feel like GT was a nod to the original Dragon Ball in terms of themes

W opinion on Super

I agree with you. GT in my opinion is just too forced. Super while kiddish is more tolerable than at times given credit for despite it being wacky and at times random. Like you said GT just lives off everything Z had built Super develops into its own thing better.

Man I wish that Pan turned into a Super Saiyan during the baby arc. It would've been perfect if it happened when she had to fight Goten and Gohan!

One thing GT did better than Super. GT stories tried to deal with changes and consequences all the time and actually making them stick. Goku being weakened. Having to deal with every big bad going forward. Baby being karma of past sins of the Saiyan race. Dragon Balls becoming the enemy after all this time of aiding our heroes due to the characters over reliance on them. Piccolo sacrificing his existence at the end.

Woah. GT could have had a pretty crazy tournament arc. They get to a planet looking for a Black Star Dragon Ball and find out it's a prize for a galaxy wide martial arts tournament. It could have a massive bracket with multiple rule sets, one on one, 2 on 2, whole teams fighting each other. Trunks and Pan could have their own stand out fights as Goku is put out of commission during his first, only to come back for the final (as usual). And they could introduce a new alien villain who is also after the Black Star Dragon Ball for their own nefarious reasons.

Baby doesn't asspull himself back-to-life as an omnipotent cloud, and killing him for good doesn't require a method which instantly negates multiple whole arcs. That alone makes GT better for me.

Ah yes I remember Sasuke in dragon ball super kicking everyone’s ass in TOP

An interesting Baby v. Goku Black note is that the encounter with Baby directly shapes the final narrative arc of GT and the overall theme, the over use of the dragon balls. Whereas Goku black as an arc does little for the overall narrative of Dragon Ball Super or the character's development.

Honestly, your claims about the ending of GT are extremely unfair and biased. It is simply incorrect to say that GT's ending is only good because of Z. The majority of the iconic and memorable scenes that made GT's ending so epic only work because of GT itself. Two of its best moments are Pan finding Goku's clothes and Pan chasing Goku's ghost at the tournament 100 years later, both scenes only existing because GT introduced Pan and developed her relationship with Goku from scratch, without taking anything from Z. Besides those two, my next favourite scene from the GT ending is Goku shaking hands with Piccolo in Hell. Again this only works because of GT, since otherwise Piccolo would not be in Hell to begin with. The setting made the scene a lot more powerful than it could otherwise have been. It was GT that killed Piccolo. In fact, there is very little from Z in this ending except for the scene with Kuririn and the flashbacks.

Reason why super is better than GT : Jiren thicc ass

i really love the part when SSJ4 Goku gets really serious when Pan gets absorbed. Goku makes a speech that life is nothing without freedom, and builds up rage because one of the shadow dragons took away Pan’s freedom. It really moved me when Pan screams to Goku to kill her off with the dragon, And that to me shows that Pan is not just a kid but a true Z-Warrior that is willing to die for her planet and friends. (Also I really love SSJ4 and Dragon Fist)

So basically for the ending segment: Better Series Ending: Super Better Franchise Send-off: GT

It was weird how weak Trunks seemed in GT

Love all the dragon ball videos ! Keep it up mark!!

I recently bought the DVD set for GT and did a rewatch, while showing it to my girlfriend as she never watched GT (She did watch DBZ and Super). While the first part was indeed painful to watch, and the action scenes felt plain, she acknowledged the writers put some good effort into the series. The whole Baby arc was great since it feels it derived from Z, and totally believable. The dark dragon saga was also great (in paper of course) because it pays off what the Elder Kai was being speaking since Z regarding the misuse of the dragon balls. And the ending made her cry, because it felt the ending the entire dragon ball franchise deserved.

DBZ even suffered from not being able to part with certain characters for too long. They loved keeping these characters on the sidelines to cheerlead, take bearings and ooh and awe at Vegeta and Goku. I can appreciate greatly GTs mentality of "if you aren't going to use these characters get them out of here."

For me Goku Black takes it over Bebi in terms of being a character who ultimately succumbs to the thing they hate. My big issue with Bebi is that in the context of the story, him becoming more and more like a Saiyan as time goes on doesn't feel intentional. That's partially due to him being fairly generic in terms of how he interacts with other characters and how he's just kind of an Evil McBadguy in terms of his overall demeanor, but his Saiyan tendencies are never brought up in-universe. You can see it happening. You can see how he becomes more arrogant like a Saiyan when he calls off the infected Saiyans when fighting Oob. You can see it in how he toys around with Goku before attempting to finish him both times. And you can really see it in how he just starts destroying things with reckless abandon when he becomes a Great Ape, even though he's killing the race he's supposedly trying to revive. But no one ever once calls this behavior out. Compared to Goku Black, where at every turn Black is called out for his hypocrisy, especially by Vegetto after he fuses with Zamasu. It feels more intentional and baked into the story. And I have no doubt that the writers of GT intended to make Bebi fit that role, but it feels less utilized and less like a concrete part of the world than Goku Black does because the characters never acknowledge it.

Really loved your take on the GT ending. It isn't great because of GT, it's greate despite of it. You can skip the entire series, and it will work just as well. And that is kind of sad.

The argument basically boils down to, “Was the Baby arc better than all of super?” I love Baby, but his arc just wasn’t enough to carry the rest of the show.

Dear Editors GIVE US THE MUSIC ALREADY BEFORE WE RIOT

I don't fear many things. But that thing... That haunting image at 2:34 depicting Son Goku as a junior high schooler's drawing. That keeps me up at night.

One thing i will *ALWAYS* give GT more over Super will be the designs of the characters. In Super, you literally only had 4 and technically 6 *GREAT* designs. Fused Zamasu, Mastered Ultra Instinct, Kefla, Hit, Beerus and Whis. Whilst GT had almost countless *GREAT* designs. Goku‘s new clothes, Majin Uub, Baby, Baby Vegeta, Pan („great“ more in the sense that it fitted perfectly to her character), whilst controversal, Vegeta‘s look too because it helped establish that Vegeta gre more and more accustomed to accept that he is an Earthling now, Omega Shenlong and most of all, the Super Saiyan 4 transformations. All of these designs that i would *always* pick over anything Super has to offer.

Spoiler alert: The show with villains that steal other people's bodies and have crazy strong entities fight Goku and Vegeta in the final arc is the best show of the two.

If the Saiyans are from Planet Vegeta, why aren't they called Vegetarians?

I agree but gt ssj4 Goku and Vegeta still look amazing better then ui to me

Things I like about GT - Actually new concepts, designs, music, better villains, and that ending. Things I like about Super - better fights, better hype moments, better comedy(not GOKU), better character moments(even though I think Vegeta's "arc" is just a repeat and somewhat of a parody) It is just that GT didn't feel to lazy to me. Super always did. The power scaling is just annoying. New colours, powering up and matching opponents who were kicking your ass just through determination and anger, is boring. It simply is. Super never had great antagonists. Black just feels lazy, and tacked on. His existence being illogical aside. Even though I admit that SSPink looks better than blue any day of the week.

Dragon ball GT's ending was the ending that Z should have had.

I did like vegeta in gt especially when he said something along the lines of "im an earthling with saiyan pride"

My only issue with Super and where I'd give GT the upper hand is the villains and the power dynamics and how they work. Starting with Villains, GT was undoubtedly better to me. Specifically Baby and the Shadow Dragons. Yes, Super had some okay villains but none were really inspired. Beerus was like Z Broly, a powerful force that could destroy like half the universe and couldn't be stopped by the Saiyan duo alone. Goku Black is a color swapped Goku that just hates mortals. They literally just brought Frieza back for like no reason. Purple Vegeta was just weird. And then some characters only had the perks of being cool like Hit and Jiren. Hit was a walking JoJo reference, English VA included, and Jiren was Space Kenshiro. Whereas GT had Baby and the Dragons. Baby was basically the culmination of the sins of the Saiyan race. Even coming back to bite it's royal bloodline. The shadow dragons were created by the use of the Dragon Balls in Z, which is a nice way of coming full circle. Also GT just had cooler designs. And now we get to power dynamics, or transformations... this is probably where people are gonna hate me. The God Ki stuff was stupid. I don't understand why they went that route and it never really made sense to me. Like, 5 Saiyans can make a God Saiyan somehow and Goku is magically a god now. SSGSS or Super Saiyan Blue was also really weird to me and also never really made sense to me either. Why did they stop at just SSJ? SSB was about Ki Control... so if Goku or Vegeta perfected SSJ3, then added God Ki to get SSB3... wouldn't that just solve most of their problems? Goku could probably train and stack Kaio-ken on it too. I guess what I'm getting at is they introduced a new powerful, albeit odd, energy and did nothing with it. SSJ4 was introduced as a Saiyan's pinnacle, and that was it. Now we have UI and Royal Blue or whatever... it begs the question: Where do they go from here? SSJ4 was meant to be a Saiyans full power but it was still grounded and open to expansion. With enough training they could probably break their own limits and get an even more powerful form. UI and Royal Blue put Goku and Vegeta miles further than anyone else and makes things really sureal in terms of scaling. UI makes Goku stupid levels past all of the Z fighters and Vegeta wanted to surpass Goku but in reality kinda didn't even get close because of UI's ability. It just don't work.

I think it’s cool that as fan we can pick which Squeal is are personal Canon