The one thing John never understood was that he didn't just take away their lies, he took away their imagination. The ability to imagine a world better then the one their in is what keeps the world moving and keeps humanity alive. It's what pushes people to be better versions of themselves and want more out of life. Take away that and we're no better than animals willing to tear each other apart.
Of course he could never understand. How could he? His whole life has been defined by lies and secrets. He thought the world would be better off without the lies.
This also shows that John is kind of hypocritical. He dreams of a world without lies, but as Dream shows him, John perceives dreams as no better than lies, so John's dream is itself a lie as well.
Not to mention, all that talk about truth and what people actually want to do, he trapped those people in the diner and then made them commit suicide when they tried to gang up on him.
This scene shows exactly the role of Morpheus in the universe. In the first episode, Roderick gets quite disappointed to know he captured the Lord of Dreams, because he didn't understand his purpose. In episode 4, Lucifer questions the power of dreams, to which Morpheus answers clearly. But in this scene, in this entire episode, it shows how much chaos can be caused if there are no dreams, only acceptance of a world that is rotten with no perspective for another future, a world of immediate action, following only what you want right now without caring how you achieve it.
dreams are neither the truth or a lie. that's the point of this scene dreams make us want to be better to give them to others because you give dreams to others
This whole show shows why Morpehus is one of the top Endless because without him and dreams, chaos will rule because all that's left is rotten truth and no one having the ability to dream of a better world or future and therefor the world loses its light.
i really love this scene more than any other in the series so far. the raw emotion that this episode leaves you with and ending it on morpheus showing that despite all his perils and pessimism about the world, he truly understands and leads humanity is just...
This scene is a scathing critique of cynicism. Cynical people always talk big about how others are sheep and they are better than them. In reality, it is cynics that harbor a disdainful attitude towards others and build walls around themselves which stifle genuine connection and disable them from experiencing the true joy of life.
I think this episode is a good representation of how our own mindsets can oftentimes cloud our judgement of the mindsets of others. We tend to assume others think the same way we do and want the same things, which may or may not be true. John wanted a world "without lies", but "without lies" from HIS perspective, which was not the whole truth.
Dream is the satan who coddles you in the safety of your imaginations. John is the harsh father-figure who tells it to you as it is (yes - sometimes if you take your 'dreams' to the logical conclusion, all you will see is death and despair).
Dream isn't Satan or God, it is inspiration and/or possible truths and hope itself, by your saying/words Jesus is Satan as he gives peaplo hope and love to be better then they are bu following his tennets
Their "dreams" inspire them to lie and deceive. John was ultimately right, period. Sandman ultimately agrees with him in the end. I don't agree with unleashing complete truth if lies keep the peace but truth always prevails. This is what the bible is ultimately about and it talks about how all hidden things will be revealed.
I think you missed the point of the scene, or maybe I did, but to me it seems like the message is : your dreams are keeping you alive. If you strip humans of their dreams and what they aspire to be compared to what they are at the moment, they die, because they are without hope, and humans can't live without hope.
@@kendallroyclips No, I completely understood that point. I'm focusing on whether or not this is the truth of humanity. The Bible speaks of a people who thrive in a world of truth and justice so it will only "kill" those who hate the truth. Just sayin.
@@kendallroyclips I might not say the message is that dreams keep us alive, per se, but definitely agreed that Dream’s refutation is essentially a much more serious phrasing of “yes, congratulations, you have found the truth of humankind… provided that you first brutally extract massive portions of the foundational elements that make them human in the first place, you broken child. Well done.”
@@jupitersjunkie5619 Sounds absolutely dreadful, to be honest. "Truth and justice". I find it funny how people tend to naively think a world of perfect order and light would be oh so good... It's also why the typical descriptions of heaven sound awful.
