The Tunguska is Painfully BALANCED! - 2S6 - War Thunder

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As stated, the 2S6 Tunguska is finally "Balanced", or was it nerfed for.. specific reasons?
And yes, the missiles may see a buff soon (So I've ben told), bringing this back up to spec!
00:00 - How was it Balanced?
04:21 - The Balancing sorta begins..
17:59 - Yep, its balanced..
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@A1Ange69 11 месяцев назад

It's in my current 11.00 lineup and I got it prior to the pantsir being added, it was quite insane how agile that missle was. On top of that the radar was snappy, quick, and responsive. Once the pantsir it felt like a whole different vehicle.

@snakeisekans 11 месяцев назад

I agree... When I went to play it again after taking a break I kept wondering why it just felt so bad.

@razgrizz5996 11 месяцев назад

I rushed down the tech tree to get the 2s6 because it was good and fun to play, now. I dont even want to bring it out. like ever. I am all for balancing, but gaijin doesnt know how to balance things properly, they just nerf hammer things.

@juunda2523 Месяц назад

What makes it bad now?. Im currently using strela and researching 2S6.

@arleysebas742 11 месяцев назад

Gaijin definitely nerfed the Tunguska like hell to make us think we needed the Pantsir

@ZackBadCompany1234 11 месяцев назад

Dumb ass the pantsir got the same nerf ☠️ only pilots that get shot down from the pantsir are dumb pilots that fly straight... litterally if the pilot wiggles his mouse the pantsir missle Flys off screen unable to

@tooshmart6669 11 месяцев назад

xm975 also, id rather take ir spaa out now.

@evo3s75 11 месяцев назад

@@tooshmart6669FlaRakPz 1 too..

@randomguyingasmask 11 месяцев назад

SAMs got nerfed in general, especially with the missiles. And yeah, Rolands were nerfed especially. They have 20G overload limit compared to Tunguska's missile, but they manouver terribly, by far the worst guided SAMs in the game right now.

@revolutionarygaming4562 11 месяцев назад

Top tier SPAA used to be one of my favorite things to play, but with the nerfs to stuff like the rolands and the ADATS Its painful now :(

@TheDominiqueG 11 месяцев назад

So much same, here! :P

@jonathonspears7736 11 месяцев назад

They hard nerfed the Tunguska. I used to love playing it but in a classic Gaijin move when the players were like "Russia doesn't need a new AA the Tunguska is really strong" they doubled down and said "are you sure about that?"

@minhducnguyen9276 4 месяца назад

I just want them to randomly buff other vehicles like that. Imagine making the ADAT both SPAAs and TDs, meaning you can spawn it twice in a match (one with SPAA cost and one with TD cost of course).

@masteryoda7900 11 месяцев назад

went from one of the best spaa to one of the worst

@petr8976 11 месяцев назад

WTF i think its better than otomatic machbet or type 93

@PAUL-ESNEED 11 месяцев назад

@@petr8976Are you retarded? The Machbet and Type 93 are leagues below it in BR and the OTOMATIC can be considered comparable despite the entire Italian top tier knowingly being uptiered by 1.0 BR.

@buffka5023 11 месяцев назад

“Went from one of the best to one of the worst”. ITO/ADATS/Type93/OTO etc would like to have a word.

@Kwisss 11 месяцев назад

@@buffka5023 ADATS still is very usable even with the changes. Actually pretty responsible besides all the latency issues. Those you mentioned and the 2S6 are nearly unplayable.

@ianm7192 11 месяцев назад

@@buffka5023Dont forget FlaRakRad

@jonyvole 11 месяцев назад

The fact that the radar cant go down is on every AA, gaijin really loves breaking things

@frankiegutierrez3847 11 месяцев назад

All praise to the giant “shoot me” signal

@wolfifly5944 11 месяцев назад

I was wondering why they didn't go down, this explains it, thx!

@_Davepocalypse 10 месяцев назад

They certainly used to! Sad now.

@chrisd7803 2 месяца назад

the radar can go down

@jonyvole 2 месяца назад

@@chrisd7803 it can now, but when the vid released they were bugged and couldnt

@blank141 11 месяцев назад

Gaijin really need to dial down the SACLOS guidance delay, I get that its for realism but now its hard to hit manuevering aircraft unlike before which in turn increases the CAS presence and ruinung the GRB even more

@dopedood11 11 месяцев назад

Realism is good until it hurts gameplay it is a balance thing that needs to be fixed. All aa has suffered because of this change, and it's not cool

@domantassinkunas5213 4 месяца назад

Hi coul you tell how lock target on keyboard whit tungusta and pansir and how aim whit out mouse

@cammarlow3951 11 месяцев назад

Video on the Stormer HVM perhaps? Damage is still questionable but it is probably one of the easiest to control missiles now and is the bane of all helicopters lmao

@TheDominiqueG 11 месяцев назад

So true, the Stormer is absolutely lovely at 10.3 :) I absolutely hate how all the other SPAA were nerfed. :(

@crazyadam9281 11 месяцев назад

@@TheDominiqueG I can taste the sarcasm in the first part of your comment.

@crazyadam9281 11 месяцев назад

@@darugdawg2453 Flares don't work against the stormers starstreak missiles because the starstreak missiles don't use heatseeking warhead, you always being killed by them is just bad luck.

@Niko_rj 11 месяцев назад

Best against helicopters, unlike the Pantsir, his missiles does not swing, the radar and IRIST are not captured on missiles, flares, chaffs. the radar lock does not twitch and does not go into the ground. although sometimes they destroy me with 3 hits on the Mi 28, because of the armor.

@jakeschwindt7616 11 месяцев назад

I love my stormer honestly the only fun topish tier vehicle the British has. If you can find the spot I’ve slapped planes out

@supersarge24 11 месяцев назад

I had some much fun a few years ago exclusively playing the Tunguska and shutting down the skies. Old IRST with range measurements plus the old missiles meant I could kill consistently at 10km, almost every time. It was ine of my favorite vehicles :(

@pipecuu 11 месяцев назад

I think the Strela just comes in more handy. It never fails to take out jets that dare come too close, mainly because the missile can pull 20 Gs and most jets don't flare when too close because they are focused on their target or just avoiding the ground. You are still lacking against helicopters and +5 km aircraft + the guns but you can't have everything I guess.

@Drie3 11 месяцев назад

7:33, they broke like every SPAA damage model. gg gaijin

@Drie3 11 месяцев назад

@@darugdawg2453 most of the time its stupid overpressure

@shikikanaz4624 11 месяцев назад

@@darugdawg2453it's meant to be a spaa yet it's a light tank and gets apfsds that it never got (from what I read) which is one of those Russia gets too much shit especially if it's not accurate

@linussyren9221 11 месяцев назад

7:35 They disabled that on all radar SPAA JustinPlays

@Worst_Aim0 11 месяцев назад

Its just sad how bad top tier spaas became, in the german tech tree, the gepard 1A2 is the best spaa now...

@GravityTrash. 10 месяцев назад

*Cries in Japan AA*

@blacksky121_ 11 месяцев назад

I love how this has better therms than most of the abrams

@CruelSun69 4 месяца назад

The main reason i love the german missile bus so much is the irst is SUPERB. you should do a up to date vid for german battle bus its a blast

@ToastRepublic 11 месяцев назад

yeah the jitter of the all SAM missiles is really only felt in real matches, if you try it in test drive that goes away almost entirely.

@user-is3ku4tg9onahnotgonna 11 месяцев назад

noticed the same for all missiles even ATGM's

@bryanjohnson7810 11 месяцев назад

Keep up the good work

@MrTurkeytoe 11 месяцев назад

2:32 Guarantee whether they made it's stats match irl or not they nerfed it to stretch that stick the carrot is on that much further down the tree to the pantsir to motivate people to keep grinding or even use GE to CRP the pantsir.

@carpetkraken3418 11 месяцев назад

That radar thing, where it doesn't go down, seems to apply to all radar SPAA right now. I've heard it happening with the Gepard, and more painfully, with my ZA-35. That thing is like 20ft tall and you can't see anything with it up!

@eithanhelms8026 7 месяцев назад

I remeber fighting this thing a while back and it being unbeatable, and now that i unlocked literally yesterday i realised how bad the missiles are now

@shikikanaz4624 11 месяцев назад

you should play the gepard justin Also the 2s6 isn't the only vehicle effected by the radar bug, from what I've seen the pgz04 and pgz09 also has it. Yet to know if other vehicles are effected

@JasonZicker06 11 месяцев назад

hope your doing well! Keep up the geat work!

@Tzhz 11 месяцев назад

The lines on the radar are 5/10/15/20km so the irst missing range doesn't matter. Also they broke the Gepard radar dish too.

@pedrocazes5072 11 месяцев назад

Hey Justin plays i feel your pain too , getting bad team

@airmanfpv964 11 месяцев назад

half the players in top tier dont even bring out a lineup.

@jonathans.955 11 месяцев назад

I got this thing yesterday and I get destroyed by most things because either the missle goes miles off target or I do 0 dmg. I mean I played it only a couple of times and lost agains uav's because I hit them and only dmg their landing gear. It is so frustrating especially with only 8km at the beginning

@GravityTrash. 10 месяцев назад

The missile also starts to wobble like hell over 6 km

@Antiub 11 месяцев назад

The one thing i can say is the missiles for it used to be way faster before the nerf

@bradwilliamson8832 11 месяцев назад

The teams folding hardcore in 30 seconds at high/top tier is a serious problem rn they need to punish people who just one and done because it's making top tier grinding nearly impossible anymore

@Boris_The_Turtle 11 месяцев назад

Or motivate people to stay for more than one spawn, while increasing accessibility for backups.

@cpthrki5852 11 месяцев назад

No, they need to make maps made for fucking top tier, all this garbage we're playing on was made before anything with stabilizers and lasers came out.

@BBRAIN1977 11 месяцев назад

That is the trouble with premiums at that br. I still do not get they put in Premiums at 10.3. And most cc tank playing muppets leave with 1 death

@LarryPigeon1 11 месяцев назад

Well tbh i make my 3/4 kills take my 566 out and when k get pantsir clapped even behind tree lines and shit i jusg leave why tf would i take the flakrad just to suffer from more SL loss🤷‍♂️

@samulivainionpaa9338 8 месяцев назад

Guaranteed extra spawn without backup would solve it.. Or not selling high tier premiums would be another, but that ship has sailed

@dopedood11 11 месяцев назад

When it was first nerfed i tested it out in costom matches and its rader fet finicky. Had my friend do a barrel roll and i lost lock somehow, he was five kilometers out in open air with no obstacles coming straight at me. Second thing i noticed was locking on to guide the missile was worse off. Especially when the plane is flying across your firing line. The proxi fuse seems to be worse now and either this was a bug or bad proxi but it would look like the missile would go right through the plane. I even had a hard time with lower br planes. Without rader or irst lock its better but it just feels so bad to use now which makes me sad because i really like this vehicle

@DracoSen21 11 месяцев назад

When the pantsir came out the 2S6 had a almost 2sec delay from when you fired a missile to follow your cursor, it became less responsive and delayed in following your cursor. I couldn’t even kill a heli from 1km out. It’s better now but not what it used to be.

@DracoSen21 11 месяцев назад

I’ll miss the games where I would just spawn the 2S6 and get 6+ aircraft kills (before panstir came out)

@julianturberfield7101 11 месяцев назад

Type 87's radar stow animation is also broken. A shame as it was nice to get a bit less profile.

@usernameisuckatusernames7130 11 месяцев назад

Damn, the 2S6 is what brought me to warthunder

@logannicholson1850 11 месяцев назад

The Tunguska was one of my favourite tanks to play, I would use it like a falcon and hunt tanks since the AAMs were basically giant HE shells

@logannicholson1850 11 месяцев назад

@number7red619 this was before the missile changes

@logannicholson1850 11 месяцев назад

@number7red619 the SAMs use to be very easy to use, they flew really accurately meaning u could aim them with pinpoint accuracy at the roofs or below the tracks of MBTs to 1 shot them cause of over pressure Now they can’t do that

@unlockingsnow8571 11 месяцев назад

This one hurts...loved my 2S6 but now its just pain to play. The real issue was that gaijin nerfed all SPAA to make the new shiny 4th gen jets more appealing to grind for.

@MrRazgriez666 11 месяцев назад

I love how my 9.7 no thermal 1.98mi missile using heli is constantly up against this thing, they really need to change how brs are set up.

@austonrowe1226 11 месяцев назад

That snap shot at 1:50 was nasty

@stggcsubcommanderseb4384 11 месяцев назад

Justin I gotta challenge for you: Play top tier battles without a stabilizer

@SergeyTaboritsky1 5 месяцев назад

Fun fact by the 30mm Guns that are not 4 Guns that are 2 Guns with 2 Barrels and that is copied from a German System called Gast System from Karl Gast who devolped this System during WW1.

@tooshmart6669 11 месяцев назад

China has the best anti-air lineup in my opinion, from 8.3-12.0 I can easily jump into a vehicle and kill the CAS that just killed me. PGZ's, TY-90 heli's from 9.7, Tor M1, J8f, F-16MLU. If im playing China anti-cas is fun. That is why imo there is a big gap between 9.3 and 11.7 for China AA because the TY-90 fills the gap.

@shikikanaz4624 11 месяцев назад

Although we need to fill that gap, rn helis are too hard to grind and I don't want to buy a z-19 just to grind it out. Hopefully they add the thing where you can grind helis with tanks

@shikikanaz4624 11 месяцев назад

Also pgz09 extremely underrated, good guns and thermals and speed only downside being the -2 depression. And pgz04 and pgz09 should switch places, give missiles to pgz09 and call it that, insane that pgz09 is literally better in everyway yet sits lower

@tooshmart6669 11 месяцев назад

@@shikikanaz4624 Most top tier heli's maybe carry 4 aa missiles the z-10 can carry 16 lol. I never bought the z-19 premium but the tech tree version has the search radar and 8 of the best missiles in the game makes it a great spaa.

@shikikanaz4624 11 месяцев назад

@@tooshmart6669 the problem is the grind, you can get the z9w which has 4 ty90s but it's like 380,000 rp and sits at 9.7 so grinding modules can either be hard or play pve and boring

@croskerk 11 месяцев назад

Justin, a man who'll have a keybind to turn off stabilizer for some odd reason

@philipschmit534 11 месяцев назад

A video about the CM11 or ZLT11 as I am soon reaching china 9.3

@deliriousgaming9432 11 месяцев назад

I'd like to see a top tier gamemode where smart weapons for aircraft and mouse guided missile SPAA are banned but not the aircraft themselves, that'll give the players that enjoy CAS to keep CASing and tanks on the ground don't have to worry about guided munitions coming from space. And yes, one could just play at a lower BR, but I love the top tier vehicles and that could be a good middle ground for top tier.

@cherrypoptart2001 4 месяца назад

Once upon a time this was the most feared SPAA at top tier

@yomz0r 5 месяцев назад

I tend to use radar against A-10s and the likes and put my crosshairs squarely on top of them. Shot down every time at 12k if they are heading for me and up to like 6km if peripendicular. Is this something that has been improved since this video was made or is it just a different way of playing it?

@APPLECAKEPIE3477 11 месяцев назад

Amazing video as usual hehe and the thing i hate the most about the whole SPAA situation right now is the fact that they self nerf the tunguska, because it was the first SPAA to have the wonky missiles, then they make the excuse that russia 'need it'' the Pantsir, and now EVERYONE is useless BUT of course the Soviets like the TOR and the pantsir being at the top and the flakrad being the worst with the VT 1s, the best anti air method right now is to get your fighter jet and go hunting planes :), thx gaijin.

@espc8414 11 месяцев назад

The missile nerf hits hard on the flakradpaz 1

@juli.bikelife 11 месяцев назад

All cool and all, but how do i get GE for WT on Ios?

@giimesomecrackerz2036 11 месяцев назад

Would love to try this app but it’s not available on iPhone

@MozzaBurger88 6 месяцев назад

Fast-forward 4 month... You should probably review it again, they changed quite a bit of stuff for SPAAs in general. Not sure how this was affected but for instance the missile has 32G overload IIRC. Also I could spot none of the missile wonkiness at higher ranges.

@majo3488 11 месяцев назад

Their reasoning for new SACLOS physics and Pantsir was that TOR M1 was too bad with its maneuvering capabilities. Guess what now have twice the G load?

@crad5476 11 месяцев назад

11:04 Stalin himself guided that missile.

@whoslistening 11 месяцев назад

I'd rather take the Strela over this thing now.

@pipecuu 11 месяцев назад

yep

@just4funs71 10 месяцев назад

1 stupid move by Gaijin. They unleashed Pantsir and reduced Tunguska's power thinking "for balance". And now the Russian air defense BR

@alikhreshy7924 11 месяцев назад

it is so bad with the rider jamming and when turn off the rider it doesn't go down at lest i was able to play it like a light tank now i can't even do anything with it , it's so sad that we lost a good one

@AxlePlaysGames 11 месяцев назад

Ahh finally, some SPAA gameplay

@rubennouta2406 7 месяцев назад

When that A-10 came flying in upside down, the first thing I thought was: "When did they add the Su-57? And why is it fighting the Russians?"

@lukewhitehouse4103 11 месяцев назад

They always do, go and compare an Aim9J with how it was when it was the premier missile

@raizencore 11 месяцев назад

Used to love this, it was fun playing but now it's unstable more than balanced in my opinion. How the mighty have fallen.

@blank141 11 месяцев назад

9:47 not punishing one death leavplayers is definitely fine and doesn't affect players gameplay at all

@Firewordien 11 месяцев назад

Well if you spend 1 sec looking at the vehicles you would see that it's all premiums. which almost certainly means that these players have no other vehicles to bring out.

@Tranny_Exterminator_9000 11 месяцев назад

A lot of times too tier games are decided on the first 5 minutes, after that it's either your team is stomping, or the enemy has taken all of the points overlooking your spawn exits.

@Sparacs 11 месяцев назад

Finally i found someone who has the same radar problem 7:29

@burnmoto2939 11 месяцев назад

Ive been playing the type-90 and i can say t-80 bvms are horrifying

@thatonelocalauthority2809 11 месяцев назад

Wait till you get the type 10. The round + 4 second reload tears fools apart.

@zenhayase 11 месяцев назад

the FlakRakRad is so painful to use now

@falarius123 11 месяцев назад

can you make a review of the flakrakpz or the american xm975? they are unplayable against jets and sometimes helis

@spif9881 11 месяцев назад

If it’s unplayable then why would he make a video on it?

@Shooter10m 11 месяцев назад

@@spif9881 Because if its unplayable then its not balanced. Meaning it needs to be rebalanced to be useful.

@spif9881 11 месяцев назад

@@Shooter10m you know gaijin does not care about balancing American tanks 😭 he just covered an SPAA i don’t think he’d cover another one even (even though it’s an air-tank destroyer)

@Shooter10m 11 месяцев назад

@@spif9881 content is content lol

@spif9881 11 месяцев назад

@@Shooter10m content is not content when he probably wouldn’t cover it, ei you said it being unbalanced and it being an aa

@gameboosted007 10 месяцев назад

Ge for warthunder app doesn´t work on my phone

@Kyoshi. 11 месяцев назад

Cries in overcreeped ADATS

@EB-Ghost6 11 месяцев назад

i hit a heli with my abrams, it was hella far, but it was repairing just sitting there so no skill cuz laser range finder but still i made bro mad and it was fun

@eileenscarlet5493 6 месяцев назад

tunguska getting balanced again

@stylishniggachannel4763 11 месяцев назад

The part when the entire died in the first 3 minutes is so relatable

@-Kameron- 11 месяцев назад

They broke the radar damage model on every as

@andrewd.5583 11 месяцев назад

If that is considered jittery and going crazy then checkout the adats and roland

@darthsnizreb6350 10 месяцев назад

The roland now is totally unplayable, a sea vixen evaded a roland 3 with a slight turn and the smoke generator in the back doesn't help too, i've suggested realistic auto-lead mechanics for all vehicles that have it (ito, adats, tunguska, roland2/3, stormer, flarakrad) it could be a researchable modification. The auto-lead could require radar lock or laser designator range. It would encourage pilots to fly more carefully 10.0 and up, more widespread auto-lead mechanics could also create a great reason to add ARM's. What do you think?

@yourcomrade4803 11 месяцев назад

They updated it just a day before I got it too 😭

@crazyadam9281 11 месяцев назад

It's not as strong as it was before the pansir was introduced but I'd still say it is the best spaa in it's BR 10.0-10.7 BR area

@sanmiguel4774 11 месяцев назад

@MrAcuta73 11 месяцев назад

"It's just a drone, don't worry about it" I dunno, Justin...it seems you've found a cure for cancer there! That's certainly a good thing!

@Lenesousa_WT 6 дней назад

Best SPAA before top-tier. I just fucking love it ❤

@triparadox.c 11 месяцев назад

XM1069 is also very bad, especially the SP. Killing tank has never been so much more frustrating. You cant really aim for the first 100 meters or so.

@montu9614 10 месяцев назад

A Germany, Russian, Swedish combo = premium galore 😂 games go too quick

@farmcat9873 11 месяцев назад

@JustinPlays You feel the SAME EXACT way I feel cause I get top of the team and CONSTANT losses and nothing more than that just pisses me off getting a loss after loss after loss and its just BULLSHIT

@diggywiggy 11 месяцев назад

hooray!!!

@wonderland3801 11 месяцев назад

I play top tier russian but still use the the Strela just because it is much better than the 2s6

@miguelgarrote6300 11 месяцев назад

Based strela user

@GxldStXrDxst 11 месяцев назад

What w. Udssr? 🤯🛡️

@MidnightSilv 11 месяцев назад

Ngl. Playing SPAA purely is like playing horror game in WT 😂

@RenanSAbreu 11 месяцев назад

Looking at your russian line, i can see that you have lots of tanks from different BRs. 10.0 tabks lined up with 10.7 tanks. At top tier, this differences doesn't make differece? At lower tiers, this 0.7 BR difference makes a hell of a difference, so that's why i'm asking. Obs: this "free GE" really works?

@RenanSAbreu 11 месяцев назад

@@darugdawg2453 so... Turms with its 450mm pen can withstand higher BR matches?

@M0LOCK 11 месяцев назад

@@RenanSAbreuyep easily,used it alot on GSB line up

@FaberOSK 11 месяцев назад

used to be one of my favorite things to play,not anymore

@GxldStXrDxst 11 месяцев назад

Im sorry and i thank u just for ur awesome contents 🔭⚜️

@chickenslapper4058 11 месяцев назад

Good

@yourfavoritelawnguy2722 10 месяцев назад

planes keep getting better, while SPAA gets nerf after nerf

@ununpentium2255 8 месяцев назад

Type 93 when?

@user-dv5qx5kv2o 5 месяцев назад

5:30 the drone your shooting at is almost 20km away look at the Radar Also the 2S6 is balanced now the 2S6 wasnt a super good anti Jet tank like it was in warthunder 2 and a half years ago This is how the 2S6 performs IRL

@lk_ludikruc8358 11 месяцев назад

Gaijin deffo did it dirty... at this point its no better than 10.3 SAMs Problem is to nerf the pantsir they nered tungi too. Which was not neccessary. All of these missile changes was to nerf mainly 2 vehicles, that did the job but they still are powerfull. Ka52 and Pantsir are still powerhouse machines, just not as easy to use anymore.