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PLEASE watch this video in its entirety if you’re going to chime in. There’s a lot of points that I’m sure will be made in the comments that were addressed throughout this video, as I’m already seeing people ignore what was said like it wasn’t acknowledged.

fanservice is part of the DOA series. breasts swaying is normal, it seems like they've never seen a woman in real life. as if mk9 didn't have almost naked women or old sf. taking the fanservice out of DOA is the same as taking the gore out of mk. ridiculous. the game did not die due to lack of competition because DOA5LR lived for years and had excellent collaborations and even Mai shiranui at the end of his life.

I honestly want DOA to have a 7! Like this game i honestly believe can be the best 3D fighter. Like man...look at TEKKEN it has some DOA people working on it and a lot of the mechnics in TEKKEN were inspiried by DOA. VF is coming back I hope people can get their head out their asses and maybe help DOA comeback like help you help yourselves.

I feel like Koei Tecmo is very cautious about announcing or releasing a DOA 7 game in the current day because they know that Western game journalists are going to write hit piece articles attacking games like DOA for featuring sexy women in it. Just look what's happening with Stellar Blade at the moment.

They really lost it when they ended up saying racist rhetoric. You and ZakkuRye were one of the few content creators that talked about DOA in a way that is open to other people. These people are really in the deep end choking on their body pillows.

5 has better sex appeal than 6. 5 has better gameplay than 6. i'm tired of seeing competitive players complain about sex appeal in doa as that mindset literally always existed. they use it as "the reason why more players don't play" when instead it came down to gameplay and counter holds being a huge focus turning off some players. saying "play the coomer volleyball game instead if you want sex appeal" isn't helping lol. keep in mind there is an agenda to get rid of sex appeal in videogames atm, and a lot of dudes that push for this in the fgc are trans and hate women. even the whole "core values" thing, Mr Wizard was caught tricking underage boys for dick pics. anyone pushing for less sex appeal in the fighting series known for sex appeal is going to cause drama. dude shouldn't even have mentioned it. vf on steam when lol

I skimmed through the stream, and I'll listen to it in full later, but my advice is to STOP POKING THE BEAR. Keep talking about the gameplay, quality of life and monetization issues. STOP vaguely attacking fanservice in your tweets. Because outside of DOA in the overall gaming space, sexy fanservice type things are CONSTANTLY under attack. The latest DOAX wasn't released in the US because of this climate. The fanservice guys can be out of pocket and stupid sometimes, but you got to at least get where they're coming from. They aren't all DOAX players, but the ones that are had to IMPORT the game, and to play the latest gacha you had to use a VPN to access it. The games journalist scene and climate they created has REAL EFFECT on the games they play. So yeah these guys are on edge. They can't even go buy at any store front digital or physical to buy without importing or VPNs. They've been DIRECTLY effected by this. The thing is about the competitive scene guys for some reason yall have to throw in a quick jab to the fanservice aspects of game in every tweet that blows up. The biggest issues to you guys are the gameplay, lobbies, netcode, etc so why are we talking about the fanservice? Why repeatedly invite the ire of these guys? Just say the DLC is expensive and stop vague posting about how "fanservice needs to be toned down", because they from where they're standing it already has been. Because I agree a some of what you guys have to say on the gameplay and content end. The lobbies thing is crazy and DOA5 on PC doesn't have lobbies at all. But the way yall go about it is just bad. The game isn't relevant anymore because its just a bland game content wise. No modes, no interesting unlocks, nothing. The competitive guys have their own issues with the gameplay stuff. And the casual fanservice guys is dealing the content they like being removed, altered, or put behind barriers. No one is really satisfied. In conclusion, if these tweets was just talking about stuff like the gameplay they wouldn't have garnered this reaction. Stop invoking these guys.

You can't have it both ways. Even ESRB agrees with me. Just look at Dead or Alive 6's rating. Why play DOA 7 with no fan service when I can just play Tekken? It's not the only aspect of the game I agree. But it's akin to watching a superhero movie where no one wears a costume or hides their identity. The fan service is a part of the identity.

Doa community needs to step up. We are ghosts rn!

I realized a long time ago the DOA playerbase was split. Heck my roommate is an avid DOAXVV/DOA6 player while i moved on to being a granblue player. But i honestly believe the best answer is to merge the Xtreme stuff with the fighter. All these other fighters are coming back with modes and fun stuff to do outside of fighting, and people would be hype af to play some volleyball with Hayate and Elliot, ONLINE WITH YOUR FRIENDS. And while i would like meter to be gone from DOA, they won't. We can still have it, but the risk reward of using meter was so bad in DOA6, if they could just make it a once per round thing it could work.

One thing that DOA6 doesn't have unlike the previous DOA games, except for DOA Dimensions, is that when you view the command list, the command moves don't have any names to them.

at this point, we need a resurgence of virtua fighter. unfortunately, the stigma of doa isn't going away anytime soon. VF and DOA are very similar, not exact but close enough. if sega could get a new VF to be successful, then TN's DOA would have a chance. yohei left koei as well, now the series really has no direction which sucks. finding a new team to do doa justice will NOT be easy at all. doesn't help at all that doa6 support ended after just 1 year, while xtreme venus is still getting updates. imo doa is one of the best fighting games of all time. #1tekken #2 soul calibur #3 Street fighter #4 Doa

I started with DoA5 in 2012. HoldJunkie is my OG handle. Offline time with DestructionBomb, Sly and Mr: FSD himself, Kwiggs, Excalibur, Fox, a lot of folks don’t know fox is a DoA player originally too. I stopped with 6 after seeing what they did. I kept playing 5 and VF. We always knew these guys were out there. I don’t see why we should even acknowledge them outside of the fact that they kept the game afloat financially but the competitive integrity is important if we ever want to be seen amongst the like of Tekken. Don’t know if you noticed a correlation between particular, “fan art” and the ease of use of the game/characters? Since Namco did what they did with Tekken, let’s say they’re getting more of these coomers.

My original comment was way too long, so I've removed it. I'll just summarize it into pieces. This isn't directed at anyone, it's just a rant / venting that's long overdue and was only reignited after watching this video and seeing how far this community has fallen to be sending death threats to one of the TOP content creators for DOA. Disgusting, and I'm upset about it. No one should get death threats or let alone the severe backlash Zakk recieved just for stating HIS OPINION and thoughts on the game. I think ppl need to get over this "only my opinion matters" mindset (casuals and ranked-only players). The game CAN have sex appeal, skimpy outfits, hot females, AND be a genuinely good fighting game at the same time. It doesn't have to be 1 or the other. Not all "casual players" beat their meat playing doaX or even play it at all, so ppl need to stop confusing the 2. Idk why both sides of the community can't coexist and keep starting up irrelevant bs with eachother. That's all I can really remember from the 2 page essay I typed earlier. Will probably edit if i remember more points, but we just all need to be better as a whole. This community will never be taken seriously if it stays divided. Look at the competition... SF6, Tekken 8, MK1... Great video and points brought up by Emery, Zakk, and some others in general. This video was very refreshing in a weird way and really sheds light on issues no one really talks about.

After that "muh core value" incident. I don't blame the DOA community having a hostility towards the FGC when it comes to fan service in their games.

I still watch doa 5 tournaments till this day ❤

Good stream Emery. I play competitively, and love the sexy bits. I will die on the hill that the sexualization in DOA must stay. Toning DOA down is a bad idea, but people are allowed to have their take.Whether or not the take is good, is subjective. Competitively, the meter and the comeback mechanics killed the freeform flow of DOA. Ground game etc was all lackluster and I think honestly, losing the dynamic gameplay killed the competitive scene. Casually, the outfits sucked. They tried to backtrack but it was too late and people moved on before they reimplemented their jiggle modules (the mandarin dress patch). They also did censor many of the outfits in the revival packs, and Rachel's Demon outfit was the "alt" etc. All of that said, the are a lot of reasons doa6 failed. HOWEVER Zakku didnt deserve that. These people should be ashamed of themselves for behaving that way over an opinion.

STELLAR BLADE isn't even out yet, but it's a great example that you can make sexy characters that are still taken seriously. That's the problem with DOA, I don't even think the developers take their characters seriously anymore. Kasumi, Helena, and the other ninjas have excellent back stories that make sense and are fleshed out. But then you have characters like Hitomi and Lei Fang who are simply there to be accessories to other characters, and not even good ones at that.

If TN reached out to ZakkuRye to test the waters on how a "less sexualized" version of DoA7 would be received, i think they got the message by now. I don't know what qualifies as "less sexualized" considering that DoA6 was already that, but i think that it's not controversial to state that there isn't space in the 3d fighter space for yet another Tekken. Just slap in a toggle for pg13/adult modes which censors the breast jiggle(they're obsessed with the breasts not being rock hard for some reason) in the game and it's probably enough because these days even SF6 has more risque skins than DoA ever had. I mean the stuff you see with Cammy in SF6 you never seen in DoA, ever, but there's little outcry. edit: watched the whole thing. You guys got heat because you were talking like feminists, and not the good kind, that's all. Of course the racism shit is silly and has no place anywhere and especially in DoA, friendly fire is bad, everyone wants DoA to succeed. Now if there's no issue with the T&A then there's no reason to suggest it being toned down. Nobody who played DoA extreme or the main fighting game has any issue with the game getting better mechanically, they were just kneejerk reacting. That said, between DoA5 and 6 is a gap in sexy when you consider the animations, post fight screen animations for win/loss(DoA5 Tina's sexy win animation is gone in 6, just one example), and the costume designs which leaned towards conservative. DoA6 may have done a 180 when they saw that the preorders weren't coming in, but you can still see that the foundation was that of a game that wanted to tone down what DoA5 had in terms of sex appeal. It's inescapable.

After watching the entire video, I've come to the reasons why DOA 6 failed. 1. They removed almost everything what's good about DOA 5. The bound system is non existent since I've played DOA 6 at long last. The meter system needs a lot of work, very little offline content granted is still more than Tekken 7 can offer, customization still needs a lot of tweaks, no online lobby, no tag mode and no team battle. They even removed Cliffhangers from DOA 5 and that shit was a guessing game on how to attack or defend. 2. From the competitive eyes is awful especially when you want to level up your game and from the casual eyes is awful because they stripped everything good about DOA 5 and DOA 4(see point 1). 3. The overpriced DLC contents. I don't remember any fighting game that has ridiculous DLC prices and even sell the exact same thing that the last game had. Tekken 7, Injustice 2, Soul Calibur 6 and Dragon Ball FighterZ had season passes but none of them cost more than the base game itself and DOA 6 has season passes that cost way more than the base game. Not only that their DLC practices are out of hand. Who the fuck pays R18 for a hair colour and? I shit on Tekken 7 but at least we can change hair colour free of charge. 4. Story mode is ass. DOA is always focused on Kasumi trying to return home after defecting from her village to defeat her uncle and yet they tried to push Marie Rose and Honoka as the new face of DOA. Remember Tekken 6 got flack for doing the same thing with Lars when the Mishima conflict was still going. Bringing back Raidou made no sense. Why bring him back only to be killed once again. 5. The marketing killed the game. 6. Fan division. Some fans blamed the lack of fan service and catering to the FGC which is not true. The FGC deems DOA not a serious fighting game number 1 and number 2 no pro players showed up since the competitive aspect of the game is gone. Tecmo has been supporting their fan service version of DOA with new female characters and skimpier swimsuits hence the FGC focused on the wrong game claiming DOA has no interesting fighting mechanics but it's for "coomers". I play DOA because I love playing it and it helps me to improve in Tekken. The hate Zakk gets is stupid. For context he said dial down the fan service, not remove it entirely since fan service is always be a part of DOA. The creator Itagaki wanted DOA to be up there with Tekken and Virtua Fighter and created DOA Xtreme Volleyball dedicated for fans who loves the fan service aspect of DOA. Hell, Tekken 6 onwards was inspired by early DOA games up to DOA 4 and took what's good about it and added to their games. Zakk and Emery are the biggest DOA content creators out there. Are they like Main Man, Arsenalty and King Jae with Tekken or Mike Hollow and True Underdawg Gamer with Mortal Kombat? No but to say they done nothing with DOA is absolutely false. They went to multiple DOA tournaments across the country and even faced Master who is considered the best DOA player ever and even made dedicated RU-vid channels to support and make videos on DOA which is their go to fighting game. I do want DOA 7 to happen so I can compare it to Tekken 8 when I do get the game but it's not that easy after the poor sales and reception DOA 6 got from the casual players, the hardcore players and competitive players. Blaming DOA 6 failures on fan service is stupid since there's many factors on why it failed.

sorry but ZAKKURYE?????? ZAKKURYE??? OFF ALL PEOPLE this man has been so passionate about doa since forever

These people ONLY hear "I think they should turn down the " REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!! and you can't talk to them. I'd say going forward: 1. Make sure its a FUN GAME. 2. Give the people the fanservice. 3. Give USERS the options to edit whatever content USERS want on THEIR consoles. SF6 lets you lock whatever costume you want to whichever character when you face them online. Problem solved.

Okay first, the thing people need to understand is that when someone buys a game: IT’S THEIR GAME. They are free to enjoy it as they please. If they want to play casually they can they wanna be hardcore or pro they can. Neither one of these is incorrect or the only way to play the game. Isolating the community through elitism is no solution nor is solely pandering to casuals. There has to be a balance. DOA6 in honesty threw away a lot of DOA’s identity in terms to sexiness and fighting mechanics. Asking for them to continue in anyway to do so is really not helping and is counter intuitive. DOA had always had solid fighting for beginners and pros alike with a fast, fun pace. DOA had plenty of options for sexy outfits as well as less skimpy attire too. DOA6 went too far in the wrong directions in both categories. I do agree that 5LR needs to be used for the mechanics of any potential DOA7 and DOA6’s mechanics and story need discarded (nothing really important happened that can’t be covered in 2 chapters or left out honestly). Seeing the devolution and state of animosity of the pros to casuals and vice versa is saddening and really founded on something that’s completely subjective. We were a small community already, why do we need to fight each other over something so subjective? It’s a series we love and people should play it the way they want and be accepted into the community.

@0:03 Its unfortunate, but DoA is niche and only the most dedicated travelled for tournaments. That same group hated DoA6 lol. I know I'm the odd one out, but I liked the core of DoA6. Not to say I liked the game as a whole because meters/side step mechanic/ground game were all awful, but the stun system felt closer to the older DoA games. DoA5 is absolutely the better competitive game, but it also had DoA4's stun system which just made me hate DoA5. The racist stuff towards ZakkuRye is wild though, but also doesn't surprise me. The DoA community outside of the FSD crew is....not great. I spent time on reddit/gamefaqs back in the day and that section of the DoA community is disturbing lol.

Easiest way for a DOA comeback is a DOA Dimensions remaster with DOA5 gameplay AND graphics (yes 5 is prettier than 6). Its the less work intensive and safer way of develping it

Even as someone who disagreed with the tweet at first, the lengths people went to to voice their disagreements were ridiculous. Like at that point, a stigma over skimpy costumes is the least of our concerns if "fans" are sending death threats and bigoted comments over something like this... Also yeah, people calling him a "nobody" or a "fake fan" is INSANE considering Zakku was one of the first content creators I found when I first got into DOA

People need to stop saying DOA6 was toned down. It wasn't! But it was MARKETED as a toned down game, that marketing is what killed initial reception for casuals, people tuned out after the headlines claimed the game was toned down. I know because I was evangalizing for the game ever since TGS showed off the classic costumes and physics were all intact. But it didn't matter, it was too late, the casual crowd tuned OUT and ignored the game after the initial press tour boasting about toning down the sexualization.

You guys on the FGC side really REALLY need to understand that your end is completely irrelevant to the actual success and sales of the franchise. DOA6 failed BECAUSE it dropped it's sex appeal and focused nearly exclusively on the E-sports/EVO end. The lead up to the release and all the marketing focused quite literally on how they were trying to be "Taken seriously". The problem is that you guys for some reason think that you "creating content" for DOA, or going to tournaments to win prize money or trophies helps the game at all. "supporting the scene" does nothing for Team Ninja. It's barely a blip in marketing. You competing in tournaments does not sell more copies of the game. No one outside of you guys could care any less about EVO or a tournament. You belittling anyone dunking on Zakkurye or yourself for a fundamentally bad take, as just cranking the handle or being racist is absurd. Further, them not going to some tournament means nothing, because if they bought a copy of the game and maybe some of the dlc, that's what matters. They supported the game just as much as you did in an actual legitimate manner that Koei Tecmo sees on paper. If you start counting DOAX, collectors editions, and other merchandise I'd put infinite money that they are further down the road of supporting the game than you guys. Based on KT/TN putting money in prize pools the FGC side might actually be a net loss for the company at this point. The side that wants DOA to be sexy and fun is in the millions. They aren't just necessary, they are THE AUDIENCE. The side that needs the game to be at EVO for some weird reason is MAYBE in the hundreds? You buying plane tickets to a tournament in a different state means nothing for the game, nor the 99.99% of the actual paying audience. DOAX is great and fun, but fans like me want the fighting game to be what it was up until 6. Never forget that When DoA6 came out you guys dropped the game within weeks because you didn't like the way it played. Why didn't you guys support it? Why did you move on to other fighters? Why didn't you make the best of what you had and push on TN to make patches and fixes? You guys were wrong, the FGC has been a net negative for the franchise. It has been years of this cope and delusion from the competitive side non stop. Just admit it and try to adjust so that you won't be a negative if we somehow manage to get DOA7.

I don’t think that dialing the sexuality back is a good idea. Much like mortal kombat’s violence, it’s part of the franchises identity. The sexuality gets people into the door and the gameplay keeps em there. I think that he worded his tweet badly. I think what he meant to say was to focus on the core game and dial back the focus on dlc costumes. Jiggle physics are a necessity but so is great gameplay. Doa5 LR was perfect in almost every way. The responses were crazy off base tho.

I'm glad I'm not on Twitter no more cause comments like this is baffling. I've been playing DoA since DoA3 was out and playing DoA6 Core Fighters, it immediately felt off gameplay wise. WHO ASKED FOR A POWER BAR?! Those talking about it's wrong to tone down the sexuality, in this case, we do not deserve Ayane and Momiji booty right now until we get the core fundementals of the game straighten out. DoAX does has its place as a spin off title, despite me wanting that series to focus on Volleyball with sex appeal to compliment that, people need to understand that is not the main series and I think that why its also harming the reputation as a franchise a whole. So if we want at least one more Dead or Alive game, we got to start putting our money where our mouth is and show up with both critique and support for the franchise. I don't want Team Ninja to leave this series behind and just focus on Nioh-like projects.

Doa5 was just a better game all around. Just give me the DOA 5 roster but add NiCo and Diego.

P.S. I apologies for the long post but even I can see what made DOA 6 the most hated game of the series. Hell, Tekken 7 while sold the most copies than all other Tekken games, the majority of Tekken fans prefer Tekken 5 and Dark Resurrection over Tekken 7. Tekken 7 was at its best with the online lobby, tournaments and rankings while having the worst offline content than any other Tekken games. The story mode is garbage, Treasure Battle become boring very quickly and Arcade mode on harder difficulty is a joke. Plus there's no team battle, survival mode and time attack. I've digress, the point is DOA 6 failed miserably due to multiple reasons and not fan service. I want DOA 7 to happen so that games like Tekken, Soul Calibur and Injustice to up their game.

Its still pissed me off they saying Zakku does nothing to the community. Bet they type the tweets with the semen still in their hands.

"DoA6 failed because there was not enough TnA" is such a weird take because... does the sex appeal not wear off after a while? I'm 20 years old, I've been playing DoA5 since I was 11, and while sex appeal definitely was what got me into the game, after the first year or so it became an afterthought because I was so captivated by the game part of DoA. It became less about "oh man, Hitomi has such a sexy bikini 🤤" and more about "oh man, Hitomi has some awesome combos, can't wait to destroy people online 😎" And personally, I think DoA6's failure had little to do with not enough TnA, because the truth is, all things considered, DoA6 still had a lot of TnA lol 😂. While I can't say for certain *what* killed DoA6 because I don't have the perspective you and other oldheads in the community have, I can say that the reasons I didn't like DoA6 was because of the confusing PR sending mixed messages, the stages were lame, there were no cool game modes, the meter was DUMB, tying sidesteps to meter was even DUMBER, not being able to spectate fights when you enter a lobby sucks, and my mains Leifang and Bayman were awful 😅. I think those complaints are a lot more valid and, most importantly, reflective of what casual audiences actually wanted of DoA6, rather than "oh no, my barely legal sexy woman is all covered up now 😡". Came for the boobs, stayed for the game is the story of a lot of players after all

lmao the "WHERE WERE YOU GUYS WHEN WE NEEDED YOU" encapsulates how you guys still don't understand what's going on. The reason you are even asking that and then defend the tweet your friend made is comical. This proves common sense flew straight over your head..

Stuff like this is why social media is just an awful place to have dialogue with regard to any game or anything. And anyone that's issuing death threats or being racist over a game should really consider finding a new hobby. I was Conditioner15 or DJTJVolume1 during my days with DOA. I'll own up to the fact that I had my critiques about DOA & I could've been better with certain things, especially when I look back at my past performances and interactions w/ people. But I hope that while I was learning DOA competitively, I gave my critiques with respect to anyone who has competed &/or excelled at a high level in DOA. Especially if they have a valid point, which I saw no issues with Zakkurye's tweet. In retrospect, I think DOA 5 was a solid game. I think it was the most engaging DOA that I've played (besides 3 but that was more casually, skipped 4 and then got into 5 & 6). Solid offline modes. Story was intruiging. The balancing was solid (didn't think so at first but looking back now it was solid). I know stagger escapes a mixed bag, but I personally enjoyed it. Playing Rig & exploring everyone was fun, especially Akira in my last sessions playing DOA 5. The competitive scene was a joy to experience, even if I only experienced it for a select few tournaments (really only TFC and casually at FR once). My only critiques with DOA 5 (some I still hold, some I don't), I didn't like the sidestep (mainly because I compared it to Tekken which I probably shouldn't have done as the games operate differently besides being 3d fighters), the lack of throw breaks (again because I compared it to tekken), the i9, i10, i11 (because I compared it to tekken), & the online (but in defense of DOA, I didn't know much about the online network aspects as much + playing on PC was solid online vs PS4). So personally, I hope the next DOA if it goes by DOA 5's system, that it would address those things. Given I haven't played DOA, Tekken, or any game in a while, let alone a tournament. But since I've seen fighting games have this positive uptrend, especially with Tekken 8 (outside the cheaters & mods issue), I really hope DOA can get some action on this too & VF as well, and I think they will. But seeing that kind of animosity's sad, especially since there was nothing wrong with Zakkurye's tweet. Much love to y'all and I hope maybe one day, I'll get back on the sticks with everyone again.

Finally, some spirits and developped thoughts about this question. People are way over-reacting. I remember being insulted on Twitter by a random for just saying to give DOA6 a chance before the launch. Such behaviour doesn't help the cause to fight against censorship and toned-down sex appeal in games. I want both sexy and unsexy games. Is that too much to ask for? I want a remaster of DOA5LR so bad, with good rollback, lobbies on PC and more colorful stages. It looks so grim for DOA and yet it's the best game in the series imo. But if it comes back with a new game, i hope it will be more badass, goofier and still sexy af. All together, BECAUSE THAT'S DOA. Put the accent on the martial arts, on beautiful modern and traditional environnements, on the explosive walls, on ninjas, wrestlers and on TIDDIES. Like that DOA2 intro. Seriously, I start to hope that a good trailer would change everyone's mind. One man can dream! I also think that hitsparks would be a good addition. What do you think?

I’ve been playing DOA since 2000 with DOA2 Hardcore. For me DOA was never the same when Itagaki left. As much as the fighting mechanics of DOA5LR was a step in the right direction, the games aesthetics, stages, atmosphere, mood and music was waaaaaay worse than DOA2U, 3 and 4. The stair mechanics gone, the character music gone, the stages had no levels, the stage transition animations were horrible. The characters did not look correct either . If DOA wants to be successful they need to look at the atmosphere of DOA2U, 3 and 4! DOA5LR gameplay wise yes I agree 100%, but I want more beauty in the game and not the violence and gritty bullshit they tried to add to the game. As a gay man, I do not care about TNA, but I cared about the women being the protagonist of a fighting game! I play female characters and that’s why DOA is so great! The tournament thing you say that if you don’t attend events and have to show up to show your commitment to the game. How can you expect people from all over the world to attend events and have money for it? I’m from Denmark, I was 13 when DOA4 was released. Started playing DOA2U online when I was 12! I was the admin for the website DOA Kunoichi forum back in the day. I Competed in online tournaments . I went to Eurogamer Expo when DOA5 was releasing to support the game and competed in online tournaments as much as I could. But showing up to tournaments does not equate a persons commitment to the game ! I’ve always been passionate about DOA and always will! DOA5 and 6 was ruined by bad management decisions, terrible DLC strategies, micro transaction bullshit, no content, no customisation, and lack of commitment to DOA’s core design-DNA/aesthetics and lack of funds for producing the games and short production time for both DOA5 and 6! DOA5 Ultimate was released, because of big errors in the DOA5 coding that couldn’t be fixed by patches, so they had to rerelease the game to fix their mistakes. The team after Itagaki left is just not talented enough and Koei is a shit company making terrible games in their past. Tecmo should have merged with Square Enix back in the day when they had the chance. Your video and content is great. I don’t agree 100% of your statements and I do think many of the pro players forget what made DOA unique and that was its beauty . You do not deserve death threats and neither do Zakkurye . Keep up the great work

I think Emery summed it up best, "Can we have a great game and sex appeal?" There is this cultural movement to take sexualization out of games. (look at the Stellar Blade situation) I think the solution for EVO/competitive problem is implementing a "tournament mode" when you load up the game, you have the option to load a "tournament" friendly version of the game for competitions with minimal sex appeal (no more than Tekken I guess) and an option to load a "traditional" DOA with all the fanservices we as players have always loved. We have DOA Extreme but, it was best when we can both beat the hell out of people AND do it with sex appeal. I think a majority of players of previous DOA's feel this way as well.

Yeah this is wild, i mean there is a whole lot to cover in this topic, but attacking ZakkuRye is not it when he made valid points we shouldn't be treating the competitive players like that especially when they are the vanguards for the fighting side against other fighting games.

I gotta catch these streams. I’ve been a bit interested in the DOA community since I started exploring the 3d fighter genre with Tekken. I would love to see a comeback for this series cuz I’m a “beyond the titties” guy and from a mechanical perspective the game is very unique and I like that. Gonna cop 6 for what it’s worth and setting up parasec from the Step Dodge discord with a next dude in due time. Honestly the FGC becomes weirder with each day but when we add a case of extreme horniness with it it’s legit scary. Epic video and breakdown.

I want a Dead Or Alive netfixe seres. my mind DOA is a lot like the pervy Martal Arts animes from the 2000s. Yeah but ikki tousen, Kenichi, Tenjou Tenge. there really cool shows. I want a sere to tell the story of DOA 1-5 but have a background story to give the non-ninja charchers stuff to do. maybe the background story has the more pervy humors and the main ninja story is serious

Didn’t always play competitively but that was because a lack of exposure personally. I’ve been playing DOA since DOA2U…. DOA can revive the series while simultaneously keeping the formula for success up until DOA6. Like Emery said most of these people don’t even play the game. About 50 people have kept this game alive over the years and we’ll continue to support each other because we love DOA for what it is. The best 3D fighting game with bad bitches.

They should have started this fight for DOA during DOA5. Too late now, just fake outrage for a hypothetical sequel.

Having customizations for making on Character for Doa 7 will be crazy

"Where were yall with DOA6?" Bro, they told you. DOA6 took away it's core casual appeal, which is TnA, and they didn't buy the game. Simple.

ya know, Capcom and SNK both hella enable the horny sector of their fanbase and still manage to make a good fighting game. i don't know what Team Ninja's deal is.

Who's coming for my boy zak🫥

I do agree with your statement about DOA in general. The game always had fanservice and while I do like it exists, I hate the fact how people literally just see DOA as this "big bewb fighting game". What kept me playing DOA was the combat system, not the fanservice. Imo the triangle system is one of the greatest and most revolutionary systems ever made. That said I hate the fact that companies are pushing bs agendas and political views into our games and if this keeps up I will just refuse to support these types of games entirely. KT and TN will have to accept that DOA is just not a game made for EVO or the mainstream and it's best to settle with a smaller and rather active community than trying to push retarded agendas into this series and piss off the entire community like it happened with DOA6.

I agreed with most of the stuff until they mentioned the fan service. That was DOA's marketing for a long time and taking that out or minimizing it to the point where it barely exists will kill the game already

Last time I played DOA5LR online, I ran into this weirdo who sent me feet pics on PSN messenger and wanted me to send some back. I’m not surprised Zak got attacked. Yeah we love the female physique, but I’d also like for DOA to be taken more seriously too because I enjoy the combat and how it pays homage to Virtua Figher. I bought DOA5 initially because of the Virtua Fighter characters first; then I looked into the DOA cast and Lisa stole my heart. 💯 Hopefully DOA comes back with a vengeance, WITH TAG TEAM because me and the family was goin crazy in Tag Team mode from DOA5LR.

I do hope that the next DOA game needs to be balance between pleasing the fans and pleasing the pro players by making the next game with good mechanics, connectivity, while making the characters to look attractive and keeping the fanservice elements. It's just from what I've seen, most people are mad at Zakkurye because that post implies that next DOA needs to remove the fanservice since fanservice IS a part of DOA series identity. Also sorry if said this, but I do hope that Koei needs to tone down monetization bc most of those are too expensive and yes it is a wishful thinking on my part.

I’m a dead or alive fan, and I’ve been playing dead or alive from the beginning just like you Mr @Emery, and I would have done my part to participate in tournaments but Everytime I wanted to I couldn’t make it because I’m poor, witch is no excuse but sadly that’s my life at the moment. 9:48 17:36 , 21:04 I agree with everything you said 29:07 , smh 🤦‍♀️ I’m sincerely sorry that ZakkuRye had to deal with that 31:01 , no that’s not why DoA6 died that’s stupid 32:41 , yeah that’s far from true I agree with all of this 36:37 , Exactly, up they did exactly, Right 38:02 , Factz 💯 38:30 it’s BS , 39:19 Yup 40:21 Period 💯 Exactly I Agree with you 42:02 💯, Yup I would have the same reaction too 43:19 I was missing that too 💯🔥 43:43 , Exactly and Tag Team is gone too it would have been cool, to go and play Tag team online again 45:10 Smh 🤦‍♀️ Wow 45:34 Yes We Did get shit 💩 on horrifically I may add. 46:25 💯🔥 DOA5,was the goat 🐐 yes it was 47:01 , Smh 🤦‍♀️ wow I’m so sorry to hear that mr Emery 48:20 , yeah we need it sell well, 49:15 What Incompetence that’s a Stupid Statement 49:56 😭💯, 50:38 So Out of Pocket, Period 51:57 , I Know you will Flame they Asses 😂❤ 52:32 Facts 💯 52:52 Yep 53:48 it definitely Doesn’t Make any sense at all, that part especially 54:20 , SMH Right they shot themselves in the foot trying to Charge more money for hair color 57:44 , Exactly 58:12 Factz 59:02 Yesss Exactly 1:00:53

Its sad what happened with 6 they got some stuff right the visuals were great some of the characters were actually given great new moves and felt more fun then they've ever been but unfortunately got way more wrong meters trash side step is annoyingly good and requires zero skill break blow and break holds are dumb no ground game terrible at balancing the game etc

The racism like I said in stream is still ew asf and how dare they genuinely stand there and insult Zak like he isn’t one of the biggest pioneers for this franchise and years as a content creator keeping doa in everyone’s minds and highlighting the best of it all. Tbh the sexualisation has gone too far if it has those who genuinely will defend it to its death over having a balanced, fun and finished game. If they truly hold their prioritises so out of whack to the general community (competitive AND casual surprisingly) then clearly the damage is already done by it and there needs to be some kind of compromised or outright shift in doa’s presentation from here.

Hi there at 39:50 conversation they did had the first doa extreme beach volley ball game on TV as a commercial because my girlfriend at that time tease me n said you n your brother going to buy that game🤣I said no we just play the fighting game version😎

Been a huge Team Ninja fan ever since DOA2 Hardcore and have been there day one on most games they've made until DOA6. It was a huge disappointment when compared to the last four actual games comin' from a person that is fairly casual, only likes playin' Hayate or Ein 'competitively', and thinks that this is the only good Fighting game franchise ever created other than the OG Fatal Fury games, but who also passionately hates the volleyball spinoffs (a bit handwave-y to suggest fans play completely different genres/spinoffs for wanting aspects of a game series 'unchanged'). Here's what DOA6 failed for me from what I can remember after droppin' it after the Kula and Mai DLC: 1. The meter and everything that derived from it was completely unnecessary, especially the 'auto-combo virus' that other fighting games were tryin' to get in on at the time. 2. Because of the 1st problem, the 'competitive' aspect was almost nonexistent and even as a casual I got extremely bored of the Online play real quick. 3. Had an almost anti-single player mentality where a lot of the fun extra modes were cut to seemingly bolster their mundane effort at a "cinematic" story mode. Why not just go back to singular character story modes like from 2 to 4. 4. I can't really put my finger on it exactly, but the overall creative design/modeling and tone looked and felt worse than 5's. 5. The DLC aspects were the worst I've seen, especially the "Season Passes" and "Premium Tickets" at first, as well as selling back returning characters and the same costumes were creatively bankrupt. Comin' from someone who enjoyed most of DOA5's DLC practices. 6. Though I've had zero thoughts on the overall 'sexual' aspects of the franchise, since, to me at least, it was never my reason for playin' the greatest FIGHTING game franchise, I do have to concede that without it, it's not DOA. 6 still had that aspect but it was clear to me that they felt extremely ashamed to include it at all and it showed which was definitely ONE of the main contributors to why it failed to move copies to the less informed casual fans. I agree that this particular tweet was overly hated for mostly no reason at all and definitely did not warrant this kind of vitriol in terms of 'threats'. I do however EXTREMELY disagree with the opinion on, "Where were all these people that showed up to hate on this tweet when the game needed this amount of support" (paraphrased from 52:37 ). No hate, but I do not believe that, especially in the case of DOA6, fans of particular series have to buy/support/play the entries that they don't like or want to for any reason in order to have some kind of input, at least in terms of the casual aspects. Of course there are many disingenuous fake fans that never even played one game in the franchise, but let's not forget that DOA5 outsold and is fondly remembered than DOA6 for various reasons, and expecting those same people that have opinions on the franchise goin' forward to go back and support the entries they don't want to is an opinion I can never get behind.

11:59 'Nuff said. 😂

The saddest part of DOA is that tons of people will ignore it purely because of the fact that the game has a certain presentation. The combat is so in depth and so deep dude. Its crazy. I just got my gf into it and she thinks the sex appeal is fine because the game itself is so much fun. Doa will always have an uphill battle because of its base foundation. But its too good of a franchise to just write off. And with regards to the drama, its just porn addicts being mad youre talking ill of their video game mommies. These are the same people who go crazy over nude mods and subscribe to youtube channels that only post footage of games with titles like "RESIDENT EVIL JIGGLY CLAIRE OUTFITS". theyre porn addicts pure and simple. Theyre the types of people that dont get out much and are insanely addicted to porn and its rotted their brains

Getting mad at " less over sexualization " is mad weird. The people that went ham on him need mental therapy fr.

1:35 hardest emery quote

I saw what happened on button check and knew immediately i had to come Emerys channel to see what was up. Only thing im shocked to hear is that emery didnt know that this divide in the fan base existed, this topic has always been a hot button issue ever sense when doa6 was confirmed a flop, its always made some people heated but this is the first time ive seen people really go at each other over this.

These weebs really ruin everything. We can't have a nice, competitive scene because they only want fanservice and maybe tag-battles, and they are constantly ranting about guys like Emery and Zak, because? For shining light on issues or providing criticisms and ideas that go beyond the colour of the newest costun's g-string? Why are they even caring, they have their gacha bikini show and turned the fighting game DoA into a spinoff that is now on Hiatus. Still sad about it. The DoA and VF communities have the nicest people out of all the scenes, yet Twitter simply can't have any nice things

I remember watching the DOA6 World Cup finals and I couldn't believe how few people there were on the stream. At the time I thought it was because of the time difference, how innocent and uninformed I was haha.

29:13 LMMAO PERFECT

Played doa 5 from late 2012 into 2015, my high school years,, I didn't think about to much because I was a huge tekken and looking at doa 5 i just though of it being M rated tekken but I didn't even know their was tournament side to it or a place to support it.. honestly I burnt myself out of doa 5 so when doa 6 came out and I saw it was toned down and everything I just passed on it, because now out of high school and working at a job i just didn't see myself back into the game again. Didn't think this game was going to fall off this bad.. but glad I ran into you guys and I enjoyed the convo 👌 hoping a miracle happans for this franchise

Punishere? That yellow fever mofo? I only remember him from some LTG clip, other than that lmao. And Rikkudo clips of doa3 exist on YT!! Insane how these “fans” all come out the wood work to defend some gacha

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I get what Zakkurye's statement since he's a DOA Competitive player, but the racism part is getting out of hand

I understand what both you and Zak saying.i was young when DOA 5 and 4 came out . I never got to play because my brothers and my mom said it's not for my age. So I got older finally played the game and fell in love with the real martial arts feel gameplay combo system ect. Now I have no one to play with and when I bring it up people slam me calling it the perv game . In conclusion DOA 7 would have to find a way to do fan service but a great game ❤

The way you was reading the tweets 😂

Agree with practically everything said here, which is rare but ig it shows the points you guys brought up actually makes sense. So why all the f#cking hate? Poor Zakku, man didnt deserve this. Also, im not an online player, never have been. Just always needed 2 controllers and DOA everytime a new one launched and I was more than happy. For me this franchise just clicks with me if it makes sense, the fighting is fluid and feels alive and actually fun offline which is great. But 6 was and is still missing tons of things and going forward I feel like competitive play has to be catered towards as well for continued success like other franchises keep getting great marketing thanks to competitive play and offline players like me only market the game to friends and folk around me which is a nothing compared to what you guys do for the game. The content being made lets people and randoms like me know whats going on with our game and keep us hooked. DOA has been kept alive in those scenes by you guys. With regards to the fan service, I feel like 6 (as you mentioned) handled it well. Its there but not in your face. And the added details to legacy costumes are insane tbh. The default costumes were beautiful enough as they should be along with the few else we got. I got no issue with fan service BUT in 5 and 6 you could just avoid it or any dlc if you wanted or even switch off certain physics xD - show me another franchise that allows you to do that. The experience legit depends on what you prefer. DOA can be whatever the hell a player wants it to be. It just depends on you. (Btw that racist comments and how you guys handled them made my respect for you all so much higher)

The problem with Zak's tweet is that he mentioned toning down sex appeal *in the first place.* You guys can agree that the fanservice is a part of DoA's idenity, right? That the amount of it in the series has been acceptable, yeah? *Then why fuck with it.* You said that we're all in this together, that we all need each other. Why are you attacking what we like from the game then? Because we want y'all to have a competitively viable system. (Hell, I'm a fighting game nut, I want that shit personally) Most DoA fans got into the franchise because things like the Hold System _felt fun._ And kicking people through walls, off buildings, all of that - felt _visceral._ It might not be frame data but there's a good chunk of the casual audience that STILL likes DoA for the fighting as simple as they view said fighting. We want y'all to have that. But as soon as you mention toning down sex appeal, it's just as bad as if someone said to the competive scene *Hey, can we make this game a little less competitively viable and more of a broken silly game? Thanks.* I understand that people on the Fanservice side have made death threats over this. I understand that they've said 'Fuck Competitive Players'. Let me assure you _we don't claim these dumbasses._ But we're _still catching strays_ when you act like the competitive side needs to be favored over the charm and sex appeal of the franchise; THAT'S why that tweet got outratio'd. *That's* why people were largely showing up and chiming in. Because they don't agree with the people who take this shit to the extreme but they still know that they don't want this game to be neutered because dumb people will argue that 'A sexy game, can't be an actual fighting game, so you need to change that.' Like I know people even actually attack the competitive DoA community for this and y'all don't deserve it. The DoA FGC has some of the _best_ reactions and skill I've seen in tournaments. But if you start saying things like 'tone down the sex appeal a little bit' when you've ALWAYS played in these conditions? You _come off_ as the very same people who attack y'all for daring to specialize in a 'booby game.' That line of thinking is not going to bring us together. Actively accept people who want *both.* Not people who want one over the other - *both.* We _do exist._

Millions of fans? MILLIONS OF FANS?? Do you know how hard it was for me to get people to play doa5lr? 6? 4?? I had better luck playing dimensions before getting my friends to play doa seriously

At least DoA 6 brought in a bunch of male fanservice stuff. This series and game is so fuckin cool tho. I love VF more, but DoA is just undeniably fun. Some of the VF guys online including me have been picking up DoA2 as it’s on Fightcade :D.

⭐Remember when the gamesites/magazines defended games and pushed for them to not be censored? Gamefan would show tutorials, step by steps, to bypass censoring in games. They were gamers like the rest if us and they were on our side. Now IGN/Kotaku etc are on the other side. No longer on the side of gamers. They are now on the side of Gov't control over games. I miss Gamefan⭐

Nah it’s sad cause doa6 is literally fun to play sometimes they just need to make some good stages new original characters with actual complex movesets and make the story serious again. As far as the fan service, i dont think Ive played a fighting game without fan service so they should just keep it. And the costumes too i know thats too much to ask for these days but doa2u had a great selection of costumes so did doa5 so they should do that again, FOR FREE

Facts on what you and Zakkurye stayed, both the Competitive and Casual side are important to our Community, but sending death threats and or insulting individuals who wants DOA to be a "good fighting" game is pretty childish. And facts again, DOA4 has aged really well! Also, I honestly think DOA should just get a Remake. Start from scratch and follow the DOA5 formula. 🙏🏽

I would have played a lot more DOA if their dlc was not so predatory. Multiple $100 dlc packages is just blatantly disrespectful to the people buying/playing this game.

Fanservice community vs Woke Core Values.. And I balance gameplay, lore and fanservice. But I stills hate Evo, I still which they make they own Team Ninja tournament, because they capable doing that. Heck, they game equal to potential Smash call All Stars but in musou format. Hayabusa also in warriors orochi musou 4 . Plus people hate dlc method is crazy delusional one. But it reality result is doa5 dlc method bring money,Zakkurye actually tell the truth. Lot money .Technology patching make it work for both side, company and community. And I say again, EVO has woke insider before word woke spreading, core values word is what fanservice community called. So yes Emery kind is minority side, So you being pulled, unrealized war between Fanservice community vs Woke community . Casual side love dlc method even they denied it. Problem with Competition side is they behavior like Woke community when they have problem with game and who being easy target? The fanservice one. Plus act like HAH GAXY.! Doa 6 failed lot of thing ,it lack everything Doa5 LR. Also combined because lot false claims by woke journalists spreading, Evo treatment, culture wars. Meanwhile Tekken 8 is What Doa5 reborn look like.

You right !!! Where is their HQ because I be wondering if they’re real fighters online.

It’s crazy seeing how ppl reacted to a normal statement. Then again I have always viewed doa as a fighter first and a tna game second

For me it's kinda like MK1. Biggest reason people don't like MK1 not including games like SF6 and T8 existing is because if you compare it to MK11 it's simply not as good or fun overall. Yea MK1 still did solid sales wise but that's cause it's already a big IP it would of done way better if everything was more flushed out. DOA6 is simply worse DOA5 almost across the board outside graphics. Azz and tiddies was the least of our concerns.

This is why I don't have Twitter.

My first DOA was Demensions on 3DS and that was T teen. i got DOA 5 and was confused on the M mature. there nothing worse than Tekken and Soul Calibur. this game is M over nearly naked swim suits. i think we could go back to a Teen rating if we just stopped with the more skimpy swim suits

835 views on your oldest video back in August 2009

I still play doa to this day i make doa videos and everything id love a new doa game

Sounds like folks are hate farming.

The bottom line is, you can cater to both. That was what I took from Zakkurye's post. Didn't DOA5 also have an option to increase or decrease the jiggle physics too? So it's not like KT and TN don't know this. It's not unreasonable to ask for this. What I hated most about DOA6 was that it seemed they had the gall to ask me to spend more than the game itself for DLC of DOA5 costumes when I didn't even get a lobby for the first month?? Now I'm not the most active in the community, but DOA5? I used to play that every day, and it had nothing to do with the titties. I played *Hayabusa.* I wanted to compete competitively with him. But eventually, the game just pissed me off too much, and it wasn't worth that over college. Now if they make a DOA7, or y'all are still doing tournaments for fun or whatever, I'll jump back in. But DOA6 hasn't done a service to anyone, and the attacks on Zakkurye are unwarranted, to say the least.

I had a big comment typed up as a reply before, but the parent comment was deleted, so here's my 2 cents: (also the racism is absolutely awful, terrible that actual community figures are being harrassed the way Zakku was for what was honestly a very reasonable take) * Koei Tecmo tying Dead or Alive's brand and marketing to its oversexualization is an albatross around the series' neck that may've helped it become popular in the early 2000s, but ultimately torpedoed the series' reputation both among casual gamers and budding fighting game players to such a degree it's never been able to rehab or shed that image. It had a unique niche as an odd kind of taboo in the early to mid-2000s since not many games pushed the envelope with risque content the way DOA did back then, and internet use was far less ubiquitous and developed, so the idea of buying a full price game just for sexual content was much more palatable. In 2024, there is such a comically humongous surplus of "sexy nearly-naked anime girl" games, and even outright pornographic games, that offer as much if not more for *that* kind of audience than DOA does for a fraction of the cost - stuff like Blue Archive, Nikke, Azur Lane, and countless other gacha games are free to play, Steam and the eShop are littered with blatant softcore porn games, even AAA games like Baldur's Gate 3 have full frontal nudity and sex scenes in them, and I won't even go into how easy it is to see women with little to no clothes on on the internet nowadays without even looking directly for it. * Dead or Alive isn't close to unique or even pushing sexual boundaries in this way anymore as it doesn't have the novelty factor it had 20 years ago, and trying to pander towards the "coomer" market when your games are already full price isn't a sustainable or reliable business model in the same way it was in 2004 anymore. That kind of content is MUCH easier to find and consume (?) now without spending money. The fighting games have a niche for the people who can get past (or even love) the omnipresent sexual content, but at this point being known as "the *sexy* fighting game for coomers" puts a firm ceiling over the series, that only gets lower and lower as time goes on and less people are willing to put up with the sexual content or the "fans" it brings with it, and makes it much harder to grow or extend outside that niche without pissing off the rather unpleasant gatekeepy horny part of the fanbase KT created since the 90s. See what happened with DOA6, where KT burned the candle at both ends and turned everyone against the game. The horny fans got feral about even the mere suggestion of sexual content being toned down, while the incredibly embarrassing EVO Japan showcase, desperately done to keep said horny fans on their side, killed any chance the game had of being taken even slightly seriously by the wider FGC, who already saw DOA as a punchline for a "titty fighter" joke for years. * For people who might be interested in playing DOA for gameplay, everything they'll see if they search the series or see news articles about the games are tied to the sexualization in some way, instead of stuff like tournament results, locals in their area, or gameplay/character guides to help new players like you'd see with other fighting games. Be it DOA6's awful microtransactions, DOA5's unbelievably excessive superfluous costume DLC, or anything from the XTreme spinoffs, they all completely overshadow the actual fighting games and how they play, and those are not the ways you want to see your fighting game be promoted to people who might be interested. Xtreme hurt the image of the series a LOT, since many people associate DOA with the gross pandering fanservice stuff in Xtreme more than the core fighting games they started out as, and are understandably very put off by that, since they'd see the series in a similar way to something like Rumble Roses or Girl Fight, instead of an actually serious attempt at a fighting game. * Koei Tecmo barely got involved with organizing or promoting events at all - instead of contributing to things actually tied to playing the game, such as having a wide scale tourney circuit, helping fund tourney organization, prize pots, making a content roadmap with regular new characters, updated mechanics and balance changes to keep their game alive and interesting for years after release, KT just leaned even further into the "sexy girl" branding and released a shitload of DLC cosmetics, and in DOA6 the monetization got so bad even the core fans were pissed off at KT. This does the game and its playerbase a disservice, as it meant a lot of people who might be interested in going to events to socialize, meet like minded people, and play the game together wouldn't have ever known they were on, as KT never promoted them over the DLC fluff, and the actual entrant counts for DOA tournaments are incredibly small because of this - the largest event I could find, the DOA EVO Showdown in 2018, had only 159 players, which is less than what you'd see at *regionals* for many other fighting games, and this was at EVO! DOA6 at EVO Japan last year had a mere 58 players, not even hitting a 64 cap! * There's a conversation to be had about how a lot of people who buy DOA aren't willing to go to socials or tournaments to play it outside the home, but these numbers would absolutely be higher if KT put even a fraction of the attention they put into superflouous fetish DLC outfits towards organizing and promoting community events, building on the game's content and mechanics, and letting it have more of an identity beyond just "the "sexy" fighting game". I absolutely think that DOA's association with oversexualization above all else is holding the series back from future growth, and that toning it down (NOT removing it outright) and allowing its other qualities to shine could help attract more new players and build the franchise back up again. Whether the "core fans" would let that happen is another story, we already saw how they lost their shit at the idea of eSports friendly default costumes with DOA6, I dread to think how they'd handle a less overtly sexualized DOA sequel or reboot.

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Evo japan kills the game not that is not a good game

Normally I don’t put my input in shit like this but this just shows everyone has an opinion and very few are gonna understand the different perspectives that are put out. ZakkuRye didn’t deserve the absolute hate he got and it just puts out how ignorant people can be when they don’t understand a point of view or don’t inquire about it.

The issue is that too many ppl are attached to the fan service. This is same community that roasted DOA6 trailers because the boobs weren't jiggling despite that being a toggle feature since DOA2. This the same community that got Team Ninja to change Break Blows on Marie Rose (and a few others) because they didn't like seeing her getting a close-up punch to the face This is the same community that outcries that Ayane's boobs shrunk in DOA6, only to have a guy measure her model frame, compare it to DOA5 and say they are the same size. I agree with Zakkurye here, I'm fine with DOA5 and don't mind going back, but these coomers are too attached. They look at DOA6 like it's a Christian game lol

I need to go to a tournament for the game.

Twitter is a crazy place

I can't BELIEVE how badly this blew up! I'm by no means the best person to ask about this, because I would be fine if all the fanservice went away. But I loved DOA IMMEDIATELY when I played it in 2011 on DOA4. The mechanics were amazing, and it remains the only fighter that is largely grounded in real martial arts. None of this random fireball, or electrics, or whatever else. Just punch each other. I've always wanted to get into the competitive side of the game. But I was a poor college kid when majors were going on, and even if I won every one I went to (which would NOT have happened) I would have ended up on the street from travel costs as well as missing school and work. But I've always held massive respect for you guys that did do that when I couldn't. I watched every major I could I still even try to support you guys on Twitter or YT or whatever else. I just cannot IMAGINE what made this community that used to be one of the most welcoming in the fgc due to its diminutive size, into now being one of the most toxic over 6 bikinis.........

Given the way this dude was treated I hope for DOA7 they give all the women pant suits then in DOAX4 they put all the women in burkinis. I like TNA but you're gonna send death threats and call him not a true gamer when he has played the game more than you while you only have LR installed for DOAHDM? And for the cherry on top I pray DOA7 comes out kicking 3d fighters in the balls and waking them up with wonderful true 8 way movement with interactive stage mechanics and creates a Tomb Raider 2013 moment for the franchise that leaves these people behind and finds a new audience.

I really Enjoy DOA5. DOA5 is when I was introduced to da Game & it felt like I've known it for years.. Not only it's competitive but it's the sexiest fighting game I've played too. A Remastered version of that Game W/ Less bright stages would be dope!

props to ya'll for being as open as you guys are on this topic. you know theres a place for any kind of fan of the franchise and dont knock or trash on them. Cause at the end of the day guess what? no matter why you play we are ALL FANS OF DOA