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@@shashanksam a language filter, where David Tennant and Matt Smith's doctors would occasionally dumb things down or tell people they'd be okay when they wouldn't, capaldi was brutal and honest, which was a great characteristic and made sense for him, he doesn't have anything filtering the bad things he says
Thing is, Capaldi was blatantly lying about Clara's age and appearance. The truth field had nothing to do with it, that was simply Capaldi being an asshole just because he could.
there’s a quote by Moffat talking about it’s fun to see the early days of series 8 where the 12th doctor is trying to pretend he doesn’t fancy Clara ‘Oh you’re ugly! Disgusting! stop looking so good!’
"Do you really think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?" That line killed me. Capaldi absolutely killed it as the Doctor and Clara is by far the best companion. The fact that she's also the most beautiful woman in the world doesn't hurt either.
I loved Capaldi as The Doctor. The combination of his awkwardness at behaving like a human, and Clara having absolutely no filter just killed me. Oh…and the defence broom 🤣🤣🤣
Capaldi and Coleman were so good because they portrayed unconditional love for eachother without the whole physical stuff.. the whimsical tv-trope nonsense.. it was the first time the show really grew "beyond"
@@Nonaggressi assume meant like couples must like give kisses, sleep and embrace a lot. The trope being if they re really close it will open with a scene of them two on a bed naked.
"I've missed you Clara Oswald" You know, there's a theory 11 went back in time for one last adventure with the Ponds after he lost them. I wonder if 12 did the same with Clara.
@@beetlegraves8966 The entirety of Series 7A is in reverse because specific things are mentioned In A Town Called Mercy they mention Rory leaving his Charger in King Henry the VIII home then an episode later, they show them in King Henry the VIII's bedroom
@@bleh_itsezz3556 it couldn't cos when he saw her in twice upon a time he says his memories of her are back and then he regenerates so the only time the doctor could have gone back to see a younger version of her is when he is the 13th doctor
@@gamercore7833 which would hav been so adorable omg cus we know clara is bi (or at least likes girls as well cus the jane austen kissin stuff hehe) so im just imagining 13 going back to meet clara soon after she regenerates and meets yaz/ryan/graham and shes all sad and mournful for losing clara (but doesnt tell her ofc) AND regenerating but clara figures out its her doctor immediately and is so happy and in luv and smiley cus shes a WOMAN now and it makes 13 all awkward and blushy cus omg she still likes her (unlike when she first regen'd to 12) ..... bruh we were robbed of this in the show or at least an extra clip :((((
Clara with 11th Doctor: She's okay. A bit too "perfect" and a little bland because of it. Clara with the 12 Doctor: The façade fades and you see just how faulty of a person she is, which I think makes her much more interesting. And the constant bickering and back-and-forth insulting in Series 8 was a real highlight for me. I loved their rocky relationship! Thank you for this beautiful compilation!
Whoever wrote “do you think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference” They deserve all of the money in the world I believe they must’ve summoned every god of writing and love and literature to every exist cause my GOD what a banger
Steven Moffat :) that was his. he has more spectacular quotes about this, explaining to DWM that it's like 'he was obsessed with two phone calls in Dark Water/Death in Heaven' where Clara and Danny each have this struggle to communicate and say 'i love you' but in the middle, between the two, 'the cracked old Caledonian' 'he says 'i love you' perfectly'. ANYWAY THIS IS BRINGING BACK MEMORIES
I know I'm probably gonna get mocked for saying this, but it means a lot to me so I'm gonna say it anyway. That quote basically sums up the whole building blocks of Christianity, and hearing that in the middle of a mini crisis in my faith was exactly what I needed. I come back to this episode every so often just because of how powerful that line is, especially with the added meaning it has for me :)
She’s literally the companion that saved all the doctors, that doesn’t make her more important then the doctor but it does make her very important to him
I always thought Clara was a big step down from Amy and Rory but I still enjoyed her with the 11th Doctor. But then he regenerated and suddenly I was absolutely in love with her as a companion. Her dynamic with 12th is so much more fun and heartfelt than it was before and was probably a big part in making 12 my favorite Doctor!
@@peedfarded The way I have felt is that the 11th Doctor was the Doctor that was the focus of Clara's affection, while the 12th was the one that shared it. Not to say that 11 didn't love Clara as well, but it was different. It definitely was more of a romantic love than with the Ponds, who I have always gotten the impression he always loved as family, never in a romantic way.
The whole ‘Clara’ arc is absolutely incredible. She died a thousand times to find him, and he did everything he could to save her. She was on matriarch, she know he needed to let him forget.
I think the fact that doctor does not see claras age is really cute. The line where doctor says that Clara batraying him doesn't change the fackt that he cares about her is maybe my favorite line in the show
This is honestly my favourite doctor - he seems so wholesome as a character, or maybe it's just the actor's own personality shining through his performance
"Do you think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference" Aside from being really emotional, that scene did a great job of summing their relationship up. They have their faults, but the things they've been through have brought them closer than ever.
the Doctor always needs someone, and Clara is absolutely perfect for 12. They balance each other out so perfectly! God I love them together so much, more than her and 11
Clara is my favorite companion of New Who. Might be wrong, but I have the impression that a lot of fans who hate her, share Missy's impression that companions should not be more than pets to the Doctor. When Clara became the only human that could go toe to toe with the Doctor, they started bickering about Clara taking the spot away from the Doctor.
@KVAcedo27 The Doctor isn't the main character, at least not consistently throughout modern Doctor Who. Barring Tennant in series 3 and 4, the main character(s) are the companions- they have the capacity for growth, they are who the stories revolve around... the Doctor is the titular character, but they're more of a through-line supporting character to the companions. And it's always been this way- all the promotional material for series 1 focused on Rose, not 9. I think the real issue with Clara (who is one of my favorite companions) is that she stuck around just a bit too long. Until Yas, she had the longest tenure of a singular companion in the new series at 2.5 series (considering Amy and Rory were kind of a pair of companions). I honestly think that was the real issue- she stuck around too long with no one else to take the spotlight.
I love the terribly sorry part of that sentence so much. He knows what he is and the kind of life he leads and danger he ends up in. Despite his own knowledge that anyone who connects with him is likely to be doomed he still can’t stand the idea of being alone
@@Tri_monster They know that, what they're saying is even then, River didn't seem like much of a wife to 11 in comparison. Truthfully I did always see her as sort of forced
@@Tri_monster eh, he's poly almost by design, anyway. But yeah, I didn't buy River as the Doctor's wife until The Husbands of River Song. Clara fit the bill perfectly.
I think the struggle comes from most of River & the Doctor's relationship happened off-screen. Which I love because it leaves so much unsaid, but it can be difficult to follow.
the more I rewatch Capaldi, the more I realize he instantly was better than any other doctor to me, even more than 4 or 10, which I didn't think would be possible
Vastra tried to make Clara be ashamed for judging the Twelfth Doctor by his appearance and Clara shot back with "You think I like _younger_ men? How dare you!"
ok this is very weird for me, but the way 12 said "i'm sorry, but i'm exactly what you deserve" was hot. so hot that it caught me off guard and i ended up shooting coffee out of my nose
"Robbing a whoooiole bank. Beat that for a date!" The way he says to her on the first episode that he is not her boyfriend but the entire time he competes with her boyfriend and robin hood and anyone she lays eyes on😂😂😂😂😂
The Doctor has literally been so head over heels in love w/ her since he met her as Eleven in The Snowmen. Turning into 12th just turned the relationship into old married vibes
Yeah i love 12 and Clara because they already have a deep compassionate mutually loving relationship, not in a romantic or lustful way like 11 and her kept talking like in a very cringey sort of teenager way. But 12 and Clara are meant for each other in heart and spirit, they supplement each other (more popular phrase would be they complete each other), and honestly like many long married couple this can sometimes be to an unhealthy toxic degree, and for them it ultimately becomes that, where they do anything for each other even if it means compromising their morals. But what I love is that this platonic love, something few shows are ever willing to show between man and woman.
This is why Clara's my favorite companion. Nobody could do things like this with the Doctor. Not Rose, not Donna, not even Sarah Jane could do scenes like this with the Doctor. Yes, part of it's the writing, but one of the absolute best pairings in over 60 years of DW is #12 and Clara.
My favorite couple in history with the possible exception of John Steed and Emma Peel. Clara was attracted to 11 but she loved 12. She's the only companion who really enjoyed the ride even if it killed her.
I actually have a book that goes into detail on what coffee Doctor got Clara. Spoiler alert: He got the strongest coffee in the universe on an intergalactic cafe, and accidentally got roped into a murder mystery.
The Doctor: *has a time machine that can anywhere and anywhen in time and space and has defeated literal God's and accomplished an endless amount of impossible tasks* Clara: You couldn't afford me Know your worth everyone
I've found myself regularly revisiting this video so I think I should leave a comment which I rarely do (if I ever did). Love the fact you didn't include anything from Face the Raven onwards leaving only the wholesome bits because they're the only two characters that break me on an emotional level. (I want what these two have) It's difficult to wrap into words what I like about them. That may be because their relationship comes off as very natural and sincere. The "I can believe that" aspect is here. It feels alive. That's very hard to nail - write a relationship as natural as this. Props to the writers and the actors as well - their work is a success.
She's also immortal until she goes back to face the Raven. Thanks to the echoes, Jenna Coleman could come back when she's 90 years old if she wanted to since we can assume that the echoes lived for varying lengths of time, with some dying young like Oswin and Victorian Clara and others living full lives. The real Clara won't age at all, similar to Ashildr and Jack Harkness (although Jack technically does age but EXTREMELY slowly). My biggest problem with Clara's echoes is how could the Doctor have not noticed them for 10 out of 13 lifetimes? At least John Hurt was Time Locked inside the Time War, which Clara's echoes couldn't access. None of the other Doctors have any excuse for being so blind.
@@tomnorton4277 I think the idea is she saves the doctor from the great intelligence, so her foiling their plans in any small way is enough and she doesn't even need to interact with the doctor
While Capaldi's Doctor had problems in his first season with some bad scripts (kill the moon, we never talk about kill the moon), Clara levels it out masterfully. She's the best possible companion for Twelfth, and he knows it.
@@yunantheobserver6841 Kill The Moon is a great episode. It's popular to hate it but nobody ever gives a good reason. The worst thing about Kill The Moon is Peter Capaldi. However, Peter Capaldi should never have been cast as the 13th Doctor anyway (yes, he's 13, not 12), so this is a problem with Season 8 as a whole, not Kill The Moon on its own. They should have swapped him with John Hurt, who was a better Doctor in 1 episode than Peter Capaldi was in 1 and a half seasons. John Hurt had enough range to be either the 9th/War Doctor or the 13th Doctor but Peter Capaldi could only manage the War Doctor and we're in a universe where Steven Moffat chose him for the wrong incarnation.
@@tomnorton4277 I don't think I've ever seen an opinion so monumentally incorrect yet so simply and factually stated I had to do a double take and check that it was still in the same universe I remember. So congratulations on that, I suppose.
@@illuminati955 Surprise, surprise, you gave absolutely no evidence for why my assertion was wrong. Kill The Moon presented a situation where there's no definitively right or wrong answer. That shows respect for the audiences intelligence, which is something you almost never see these days. Complaining about the moon dragon being too big for the egg, which is something a lot of people have said, is no different from complaining that a police box is bigger on the inside. As for the abortion allegory, it's forcing people to confront the fact that abortion is no different from murdering children. An unborn child is still a child and as soon as it starts kicking, it's undeniably alive. The only reason killing it isn't completely morally abhorrent in this case is because it's one alien being weighed against the entire human race. The problem with Kill The Moon is that Peter Capaldi's supposed to be the same man who planned to destroy Gallifrey at the end of the Time War. Despite that, he looked CONFUSED about why Clara was angry when he forced her into a situation where the wrong choice could, as far as Clara knew, result in her destroying Earth. Not only did Peter Capaldi seem to forget that the Doctor knows better than anybody how it feels to destroy your home planet, but he acted like he expected Clara to be totally fine with him abandoning her for the second time. On paper, the Doctor's betraying Clara because he thinks it will help her get stronger. This is supposed to be a cruel to be kind situation. Great concept and John Hurt could have made it work by being understanding and delivering "That was me respecting you" without the shaky, confused and insincere tone that Peter Capaldi used. Capaldi said that line as though he had no idea that he had betrayed Clara in the first place and couldn't wrap his mind around the very simple concept that abandoning your friends is a bad thing. He made the Doctor look like an idiot at best and a sociopath at worst.
@@tomnorton4277Peter Capaldi is the 12th Doctor, and no, it doesn’t matter what you think, you don’t get to disagree, it is a FACT that his character is the 12th Doctor. You can have your opinions on whether or not he should’ve been cast (although I’d question why you came to a 12th doctor video just to whine about him) but you don’t get to claim you know better than the show and tell everyone else they’re wrong for considering him to be 12.
I really can't express how much joy I felt watching this video. I never realized the first time around that Twelve flirts with her just as much as Eleven did just in a different way. I just finished Series 9 btw, I have not fully recovered
7:16 god their acting & chemistry was so on point, way underrated companion-doctor relationship, the way they completely sell their platonic love for each other is so great. No more cheesy romance or love interests. Just the deepest friendship, its very unique to see for a tv series tbf, I mean the age-difference does not even faze an audience member either when you think about it.
Clara Oswald. Unorinically the best companion for the 11th and the 13th Doctors. As good as her chemistry was with Smith, its actually better with Capaldi.
To anyone who denies the fact that Clara is The Doctor's soulmate, for no one else did The Doctor go to the lengths he did to save someone in Heaven Sent and Hell Bent.
I live Clara and the doctor’s relationship. It’s a true friendship. I like that they took a step back from the romantic relationships with companions cause that has felt kind of overused in new who. But I love the perfect amount of flirtatious tension between them still 😂 Clara is my favorite modern companion by far
It’s the way literally 2/3 of this is all S8 because S9 was so emotionally damaging there was no room for their iconic banter that has me in tears😭😭 (half joking for an affect but seriously just thinking about their happy moments made me think about their sad and endearing moments) Side note: the handholding in Sleep No More (one of the last clips) is such an underrated moment. And I get because of the unique (for Doctor Who) perspective it’s not used a lot in edits but damn it’s such a good moment and I loved seeing it be in this. Should be used more in edits to compliment the handholding in Dark Water (Missy’s intro to them). First Clara needing the Doctor’s comfort at the end of S8 then the reverse near the end of S9.
It really is. Makes me tear up a bit. Her and 12s relationship is one of the best In doctor who. Between this and the I love you scene from mummy on the Orient express. My view of it is that she liked 11 maybe had a crush on him. But loved 12
10:38 i so don't know what to do with this moment lol. they're so special to me. they're so special to me also this moment is precious asf edit: i do also badly wish this was the rockstar-style concert venue that Steven Moffat so obviously had in mind, with Clara and Missy appearing in the stands, lol. this is literally the rockstar AU come alive, and set in the medieval times. BUT LOOK THE IDEA IS THERE AND CLEAR AND FOR THAT I OWE MOFFAT AND THE DW TEAM FOR MY JOY
These two had a hilarious friendship and really "got" one another. Plus, they often ended up completing the same one liners. "I'm his Carer"-Clara. "That's right! She cares, so I don't have too!"-The Doctor.
"You're not a young girl anymore" It may seem like he's teasing or mocking her (which is partly true) but later on you understand that he's incapable of perceiving Clara's age because he truly sees her as an equal and his moral consciousness. And that's beautiful.
Watching these scenes back proves what an amazing actor Jenna Coleman is. She is so good at her job plus i’ll never know how she manages to have chemistry with all of her partners
I have always loved Clara ever since she showed up after Amy and Rory were permanently snatched away. I loved the way she and 11 interacted with each other, and I highly disagree that 11 and Clara were in a toxic relationship. I believe they truly loved each other and made each other better in many ways. Clara was even seen as the Doctor's equal, and had a relationship with the TARDIS that other companions didn't have. Before the Raven kills her, she tells the Doctor not to tell her what he wants to tell her because it would be another moment of bad timing... The knew they loved each other and showed it in their actions. Maybe they didn't portray it in a sexual way because people can still be quite sensitive about a May-December relationship in both fiction and real life... And they weren't sexual or romantic in a conventional way. But you can tell there was a love, respect, willingness to do right by each other, forgiveness even after betrayal. It's just that the timing was wrong for the Doctor and Clara to truly indulge every facet of love that they could have. Whatever love they were able to give to each other, they gave everything they could.
Your comment is beautiful and so well written. Perfectly describes their relationship. I wish they had more episodes together. The seasons go by so quickly that its like there's only two episodes. 12 and clara may have had two seasons but they're only lile 12-14 episodes each and she's not in every one. They could've had more development in their relationship. Tbh i think the doctors and companions need a minimum of 3 seasons each. Having the doctor and companions change so often makes it hard to get attached to them cuz when u finally grow to love them, theyre taken out of the show and replaced. Its ofren abrupt and hard to process without taking a break to welcome the idea of a new doctor/companion. At least for me.
@@ashm003I agree. One of the best things Chibnall did was keeping mostly the same companions from beginning to end. Switching companions so often worked in classic because there were more episodes.
I always interpreted the Doctor as constantly making fun of Clara's looks because he actually really fancied her. Well, we know he did, but 12 was in a rough position because 11 was a handsome, young guy, and then he regenerates into a much older man, so he knew that Clara wouldn't fancy him anymore, if she ever did. She wanted to be his friend, his carer, not his girlfriend, which is why at the very start he had to tell himself that "Clara, I'm not your boyfriend." He was talking to himself there, telling himself that his love for her had to be abandoned. In order to do that he just had to insult her all the time lol
I just watched the christmas special with these two and it made my 12clara heart extremely happy. You have no idea how many times I watch this video it’s literally my favorite
1:01 Ach 🤣 Also, while the Eleventh Doctor may have been more cheerful. I can tell that Clara had way more fun with the Twelfth Doctor. Actually, things became more funny when he came around. And the idea of Robbing a Bank. I can literally imagine any Doctor and any of their companions doing that.
