The Twelve Gods of FFXIV vs Bald American | Thaleia Alliance Raid Xeno's First Clear 

The literal Navigator: The party: I think it’s trash. 😅

that DRK only spamming Souleater because he uses a plugin for pvp combos is probably the funniest shit this entire raid

These bosses definitely need to have more health and do a little more damage, mechanics are getting skipped day 1....

BiS raiders: this was too easy Me in random DF group for my first run as healer: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Its just the raid doesnt put responsibility mechanic thats engaging to each alliance raid. It's way easier, its like fighting a trial but with 24 people.

We had Neverreap in 3.0 Now we have Neverwipe in 6.5

This shit was too easy lmao. I at least died a couple of times first time in Aglaia and Eurosphyne. I never died once in this one

The new Alliance Raid: + Visually Stunning + Interesting Mechanics +/- Story conclusion obvious but still touching - Too Easy, you can even skip mechanics - Last Boss kinda disappointing

I love the mechanics and flare in these raids. It's just a shame that if you aren't heavily under geared failing is just a slap on the wrist and meme sticker (at least from tank's perspective). I'd settle for role related effects, ie. tank fails gets 1 half of insta doom, another fail kills them; healer fails gets 3 second removable doom and stun (someone else gotta cleanse it); DPS fails mechanic is good as is just double debuff potency.

Xenos plays with muted voiced lines was the most surprising thing in this entire patch. Unironically.

Every water themed boss has a knockback mechanic. Just remember that lol

I consider myself somewhere between casual and midcore, but in my first three runs I managed to get through without deaths or even vulns on myself, somehow. It's a really cool raid, but they could've at least thrown a few more curveballs throughout. At the very least it's a wonderful spectacle as usual.

My first run was more crazier than this. Only had 3 people alive on the 2nd and last boss and took a long time for us to recover. I'll admit I got clipped by random things and died too, but I played a healer so I am 10 times more squishy. Had a lot of fun though. The story aspect of the alliance raid is very nice.

Day 1 and you can already skip Llymlaens "interesting/fun" mechanic

Xenos, I did it first thing in the morning with just a random duty finder group, and people were dying left and right. It is definitely harder for the current crop of casual players, but not hard to us more seasoned players.

They had a lot of potential to make this a LOT harder, making that culmination of the 12 gods attack requiring tank lb would of been really cool, or even going the extra mile of adding an enrage if you were to see it the 2nd time, but all of that is wishful thinking. Although one thing is that the quality of groups can vary *dramatically*. I did my first run yesterday and we pretty much saw every mechanic twice. For the average quality of players, this fight is fine, but if you even step up a slight bit that’s where the difficulty drop off becomes staggering, as I didn’t even think people were skipping *that* many mechs.

they really just recycled all old mechanics and called it the final boss of the alliance series.

Lymlean was like the only boss that actually felt like a boss of the first 3. Final boss could've stomped Ultima and Cid in terms of difficulty. Like you're pooling mechanics from the twelve. They could've literally had plenty of overlapping mechanics, throw a trio in or a quadro in, light party shenanigans, last boss has 100000% potential to be dope instead the only new mechanic which isn't new is Ravensflight mini. Final boss music is Epic but the fight isn't lol

The final boss should have been a trial.

Lets go!!

This raid is going to get outclassed so quickly. Each boss will die in like less than a minute, I really wish they would make these fights last longer. It's so boring skipping entire phases.

Just came to the comments to read about how mostly BiS players are complaining that an alliance raid tuned for 625 ilvl is too easy. Blame people complaining the Ivalice raids were too difficult pre-nerf for why you'll never see that as the standard ever again in alliance.

Bald American is the true gigachad

The worst part about this raid is the final boss is giving you tutorials on mechanics of the new bosses you saw tutorials on in the raid while only having one unique mechanic. It really felt like a safe alliance raid that you could do once and you've done it a thousand times.

i yelled ARK! when it happened lmao. that would be me too trying to keep my GCDs rolling

I’m glad I’m not the only one disappointed in this raid

Only call out you need.. "Here."

2:40 is an expression; in the EU, we like to poke fun at NA for any bad decisions someone makes in a game ( CSGO "NA Smoke" , In FF14 "NA Healing" , intelligence "NA education" etc. )

The disrespect to LLymlaen :(

Aesthetically this raid was pretty awesome, the music for the first couple bosses did feel a bit underwhelming compared to Euphrosyne, the bosses were pretty awesome, the last boss I felt like, it could've had some differences of the mechanics it was recycled from, put a twist there sort of thing.

26:10 Tank privileges

I'm pretty terrible at the game (compared to my veteran friends) but even I thought the raid was incredibly easy. Kinda bummed about it.

Xeno running the mathematically longest direction of the aoe triangle: ah man if i was on NA i would have dodged that My man needs Pythagoras

Imagine they announce Extreme or Savage difficulty in Dawntrail for ALL the 24 raids. That would be epic.

the alpha legend reaper was kinda bad

These bosses needed 20% more health so people could see all the fun mechanics

Llymlaen disrespect 😞

xeno missed a lot of cool mechs doing dps too fast.

This was disappointing, only really liked the second boss

did it with 23 randoms, barely anyone died, some collected 6 vuln debuffs before they died. i died once.. because i looked away. music and visuals werent bad, but also nothing too special (except the city in the beginning i liked that one) disappointed, hoped for a worthy third raid, but it felt easier than even aglaia on day one.

After like 3 expansions? We can use interrupt again...

Cant play because I paid for crysta to renew my subscription and they took the money out of my account without giving me the crysta. Now I gotta wait to hear back from them before we can even start working on the issue. Might not be able to play until next week, I hate that raggedy ass website.

I liked the raid. Cleared with my FC. So there is was additional mechanic called "Tanks trying to kill the whole raid with tankbusters". Thats was fun.

it was too ez

the bosses are dying too quickly, and mechanics are braindead for the most part, almost everything was trash except the visuals which are beautiful as always. they really fumbled this one lmao.

Just like arthars says, it could've been helped a bit if the last boss music like the other 2 but nah, usual chorus leitmotif

WHERE THE FUCK IS SOFT DAD SmadgeW

We need savage alliance raids

Engaging but easy probably because you have to do all three raids for 660 tokens. If every 24 were a slog it would get tiresome easily. I fall asleep a lot during Menphina in Euphrosyne meanwhile Halone keeps me engaged.

I don't really agree with those saying it's a cheap re-hash of the same mechanics, they either don't know the lore, always want to be stimulated with new shit, or whatever. Lore-wise, I think this was awesome and bittersweet to see the 12 go. Music and visuals absolutely stunning. Oschon's mechanics in particular with the rotating cleaves were pretty sick. What I DO agree with that could make the final fight even better/more difficult by adding twists to their prior counterparts. For example, they kind of did that by adding a knockback with Thal's balls, and also doing a half cycle of Menphina's moons. I think the fight would've been more excellent by adding a twist for each of the god/goddess. Can't please everyone, yea, but eotd I really enjoyed this alliance raid series~

I've seen people say this raid is easy, but I thought this raid was labeled under Fun? I can't see why they would make it difficult. Plus I myself giving up about this game showing difficulty for casual play. What I REALLY wish this game did was make healers heal... but I'm guessing all games do this now when you take a healing role and turn it into a healer challenged.

Easy for a hardcore raider...for a casual like me...😢 I'll be dead the whole run.

I had fun with the last boss the first time I did this, because we ended up having 1 1/2 of the alliance raids die, and it was fun trying to pick everyone back up with the moons, knock back, and everything else going off. I assume that'll be the only time this is particularly exciting though, because I'm not sure how any of this stuff will kill people once they've seen it.

Day 1 you should expect people to watch cutscenes

It hasent even been not even 6 hours dear god

or 655

Im not sure if this analogy works, but ff14 now kinda suffers as like marvel after endgame, post endwalker felt like the marvel movies nowadays after endgame :(

I think the mechanics were great. Just enough to require you to pay attention and have some situational awareness without requiring like 100% concentration (which is good, this IS casual content after all). My gripe lies with the complete lack of punishment if you DO fail. All damage is like a pin prick, the mechanics are spaced out far enough that vuln+ stacks fall off before they could even matter, and so on. Like, please. I just want some friggin' consequences, that's really not asking for much =_= I know we are coddling healers to death in this game, but what's the point of even HAVING the healer role if you make the healing requirements so ridiculously low that a party can survive just fine without even having a healer?? That's what set Orbonne apart - the mechanics weren't more difficult either, but when you made a mistake it usually took like 80% of your health bar which was then followed directly with a raidwide. Yeah sure, a quick heal would save you just fine, but there was at least a RISK of death. Here you can stand in 5 mechanics in a row and each hits for like 10% of your max HP. That's just wrong.

The content was alright but it lasted literally less than 24 hours xdd

The more I think about this raid, the less I really like it. The thought of doing it each week for my Coin reaaaalllyy bores me. It's just so boring. Even if you give the bosses more HP and Damage, they just have really uninteresting mechanics with not enough going on when compared to Ivalice or even the NieR raids. I see a lot of people saying shit like "Oh man, their all BiS of course they're skipping mechanics and taking no damage", but that's not the problem. The problem is the raids are boring and brain dead. There are no interesting mechanics or layered mechanics (layered mechanics being just multiple mechanics for the boss going on at once, perhaps targeting different Alliances or Roles or something along those lines). That's not to say ilvl isn't a problem, as all lvl 90 stuff (all content really) ilvl scaling is a problem, but the biggest issue this raid has is that it really has nothing going on. There doesn't seem to really be any Alliance specific mechanics either. No Alliance Stacks, no Red Triangles, no Adds for each tank to split, nothing as far as I can remember. I know those are very done to death, but given how simple these fights are, I think they'd at least spice them up a bit? Also it's level 90, amp things up just a bit please. I feel like we should get difficulty on par with DR or Orbonne. This almost feels like Crystal Tower levels of difficulty, The Brain Sludge Raids, just with lvl 90 slapped on it. I guess I like Llymlaen a bit, she's probably the best part of the raid with variety of mechanics and that little knockback into the safezone bit. Kind of like taking the Hallway Beam Spam from Puppet Bunker and putting it into a boss fight in a sense. I do enjoy that she summons up her serpents to spice things up a little too, like "you've seen my mechanics, now here's some more stuff on top of that for fun!" But still, I wish there was more. Eulogia has the whole hand thing going on which is fine, but that's the only new mechanic it does right? I feel like they missed a huge opportunity to have more of the Twelve's mechanics layered on top of one another in the fight like how High Seraph Ultima throws some stuff from prior bosses at the players. It's just so sad. So much potential but we get such an on rails "one mechanic at a time" experience that it makes things feel underwhelming. I've been feeling this for a while, but the narrative really doesn't match the gameplay in terms of difficulty and power scaling. Oh you're fighting this powerful universe destroying entity, but it hits like tissue paper and has what feel like lvl 50 player's first mechanics. Godly beings should not be such pushovers. Again, I'm not asking for EX or Savage difficulty, not at all, but please... use Ivalice and Bozja's CEs and Raids for inspiration. That's what difficulty should be at this point in the game. TL;DR: Thaleia and the EW raids in general feel like too much of an unengaging cakewalk. I dislike the thought of doing this thing once a week for a coin if I am going to be bored out of my mind. This feels like it belongs in Sycrus tier difficulty. Why don't they use Ivalice or Bozja for a blueprint on what difficulty should be this late into the game? It's really depressing imagining EW being what the game could potentially be going forward in terms of non EX/Savage difficulty. I agree that Orbonne, or Dun Scaith, or Wheeping City or Lighthouse are still the best in terms of Alliance Raid offerings. Back to lurking I go :v Pardon my unwarranted rambling. Just wanted to shit on this Raid for a bit because of how it and a lot of EW's offerings made me feel about casual content in the game lol. Also P.S. SMN sucks, make it a caster again, bye bye.

Buhh

Come to video to check the cutscene since I missed it, RU-vidr excessively praises their own character then skips the cutscene. Yeah okay, great. :\

Stuff is always easier if you are BIS and premade.

What's with the mario kart-esque music!? xD

This raid was hard for my first group, the only bosses half my raid didn't die to were the first 2 bit on Oschon and the last boss half my raid died including myself. Lol Healers were going nuts! Both died in my alliance twice and it made the last boss feel SO EPIC! I understand for Xenos this isnt hard but i dont do savage content and i found this raid pretty difficult. I think this is just perfect for me as far difficulty goes and i enjoyed the new mechanics that, at least I've never seen before such as Oschons arrows and how he jumps to a new position changing the AoE locations. Great raid!

This was definitely one of the 24 mans of all time

Content made to be casual catch up is easy *shocked pikachu face*

The average hardcore player won't find it too challenging or even call it easy (Hell I face tanked every mechanic), but for the average casual player this is definitely a step-up in difficulty.

Aglaia was way better than this raid, this was boringgf

Alliance Raids are not meant to be challenging to people that do Savage. I went in with a duty finder group yesterday and it was super fun. People dying left and right, bosses taking forever. This is "hard" casual content. Savage and Ultimates are for more experienced raiders.

Love the raid. Difficulty is perfect for a 24 man. Leave all that crazy stuff for ultimates and get rid of constant body checks during savages.