Even if I could only "activate" one book at a time, just being able to hold more than one at a time would have made the book step that much smoother. Heck, I'd take only having one book per weapon at the same time. Having one book period was such a pain.
I did the BLM and PLD Zodiacs back in Heavensward. Then I did WAR in Stormblood, prefarming the rest and sitting on them. Quit when Eureka Pyros burned me out. Came back in 6.1, and did the rest. The friggin' books took me two days per weapon because the FATEs just took sevenever to spawn. I have five alts. _NONE_ of them are touching the Zodiac, even though the SMN book looks nice before it starts getting glowy. No thank you. I gave the game enough masochism doing all 10 Zodiacs, all 13 Anima, and all 15 Physeos on main (Haven't touched Bozja yet in any real depth, not looking forward to it) and I have the materials for all 19 Mandervilles up to Majestic. I think I'm good.
This is an issue with ARR quests in general. I decided recently to do every side quest in the game, and the amount of quests that are a chain is so fucking annoying. QUIT GIVING ME A NEW QUEST AFTER I JUST TURNED IN THE ONE YOU GAVE ME
Zodiac relics are incomparably faster now with data travel, I remember taking like a week to finish one book because fate was never spawning in my playtime window
Another thing that helps now is the rise of BLU mage. With a high level BLU mage with ram's voice and ultravibration, you can two-shot almost any boss fate and, with the flashy DPS BLU spells, you can still clear mob fates pretty fast. And if you keep speed clearing the fates this way, it will force the needed fate to spawn much faster (which can also be cleared insanely fast with BLU compared to literally any other level-syned job).
not to mention increased drop rates of the needed items(atma went from something like a 1%-5% to around a 20% and the dungeons were not a garunteed completion per run, something like 50%, so that 27 dungeon runs was easily more, and not to forget about the second dungeon step later that also was a 50/50 on wether you got the item needed at the end of the dungeon), light, decreased cost of poetic items as well as being able to solo all of the content required.
Comparing making a relic weapon now to how it was in Arr aint possible. You have some basic things like: - Drop rates in arr (were back in arr as low as 0.5-1%) - Not being able to fly - There was a limit on how many tomes you could get a week for the relic. The books also cost like 500 each - The anima books used to have 10 of each mob, while it only spawned 3 at a time, so you would have the whole server camping the same 3 dudes... - The respawn timers of some of the fates had up to a 72 hours of respawn time... - Light grind was hell since it was complelty random which fight was on bonus. And you got so little light from each thing. - Zeta atmas was.. special since it was a small chance to get your atma drop from your dungeon, and you didnt get it until the end of the dungeon, so each dungeon taking about 20 mins to do... - Materia grind, you would break your alexandriets as well if you failed, and it was a reallyy frustrating since you only got 1 map for free each day (from the expert roulette.) and you only got 1 per map. The list goes on.
@BrunoLopes-ou1gy I agree that Eureka and Bozja grinds are longer. But I do think that the ARR grind is worse because there's next to no new content for it, unlike Bozja and Eureka with unique zones, bosses, and raids.
@BrunoLopes-ou1gy Plus, Almost all of the ARR relics look bad except for the final versions imo, so it's less rewarding to recieve the earlier versions.
@@Bruiser7985 when it's a current content I agree, it could be very fun to do, at least once. But after that it's very frustrating to do because you rely on other people who probably already did that for you to finish what you want. I hope eureka become popular again with the free trial up to stormblood than I'll be able to finish it.
@@BrunoLopes-ou1gy To be fair I started Eureka this month and it's been extremely populated at when I've played. I had no issues finding prep groups and NM farm groups
The trick is to start at 7 am (or 9 hours before reset) and have the reset occur right between all the dungeon runs. There is some leeway, but timing is key.
The daily instance cap is exactly 100, I saw this from Blue Mage gil farming videos. The instance caps will block you out from doing solo quest duties and Gold Saucer Gates such as Leap of Faith and Airforce one as well (The stage ones and the chocobo hatchling are still fine since they are not instanced). I think I once reached the cap through Chocobo Racing.
I damn near spit my food out when I saw my Retainers name in a random Video on RU-vid! You bought my Vampire's Knives! I guess the premelded ones I was selling were already gone... Little did I know what adventures those knives would see. Congrats on the -Zodiac- Zeta Weapon!
The biggest thing I like about the ARR relics is that they can be used in the Heavensward relics. The idea that they are the culmination of your time in ARR, travel with you through Heavensward, and in some form they continue to grow in power is such a neat concept.
honestly i just wish they kept that in for each new relic, giving you a chance to have a set of truly personal weapons that continued to grow with you, something you really crafted yourself from the ground up. plus then youd only need to make one set of weapons, and each time you turn it in you can keep access to the replicas without hogging inventory space
I remember back in the day I got all the ATMA in one day and my friends still talk about it to this day. I can't even complain about rng in this game because they bring up the atma incident everytime and are just like "girl shut up, eff you"😂 xD
i just did this the other day. although after doing the books i doubt ill ever use the other atma. lol but at least i have them all just in case i guess.
I find it silly that SE hasn't just axed the gil drops from ARR/HW dungeons instead of imposing that silly duty limit because they don't exist in SB onwards, but have historically been one of the most heavily farmed sources of gil for bots. The drops are too small to be meaningful to normal players so I kind of doubt anyone would actually miss them.
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I completed all Zodiac relics. I hadn't realized the toll it took on me until watching this video made me feel physically ill. But congrats on your relic!
Getting a Zodiac is essentially saying after every step, "Well that wasn't so bad how bad could it be from here?" and it just gets progressively more mentally draining than the next.
I'm gonna feel bad saying this... but apparently the most efficient way to get light is to see which one has the bonus out of the three dungeons. Tam-tara, Stone Vigil, and Aurum Vale. You unsync all three of them and you spam the one that gives you the "blinding" bonus that shifts every two hours that's better than the brilliant light that you were getting spamming Aurum Vale. ...man I can't believe you actually hit the duty cap.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I also did this in one day, but never actually hit the dungeon limit thanks to the bonus light which is actually the most hidden, trash mechanic in the entire game. Actually, maybe the game tells you there is a bonus for light, but its so easily missable.
I dont think so, is the ban only for doing dungeons? Even if it isnt, ex trials, garuda and moogle to be specific, are for what i have seen by far the best way to farm light at lvl cap.
@@blkhailink5963I calculated the time required to do a few of them at the time. It's definitely been a while so I lost those numbers. Anything that required duty finder will lock you out unfortunately.
@@blkhailink5963 Assuming you don't have a fast dungeon with bonus (which would most likely be the fastest regardless), then yeah, an EX that you can clear in 2/3 the time (or same time, if the EX has a bonus) of a dungeon would break even on time, and you should be able to make even better. Another option to consider: Ifrit Normal (4-man version, not "Hard") gives 1/4 the light of non-bonus EX or 1/6 the light of EX w/ bonus, and can be killed the second the intro circle drops. At least with fast load times, this becomes very competitive with EX. But either way, since these are trials, they do not count towards the ~100 dungeons/day limit.
As someone who's done half the weapons available and only got 2 book grinds left, they're fun to do in downtime when you dunno what you wanna do on any game, but to do it in 1 day you've actually lost the plot 😂 Amazing stuff though still, congrats 👏
Some of your tips helped me in my free trial zodiac journey, and after completing the first I decided I had not felt enough pain and began gathering the materials to make the other 9 relics
The *best* way I've found to farm these is to do it with 2 other people. Every book has 3 FATEs, so you just have one person sit in each zone. None of the FATEs up? Queue for a dungeon. FATE up? Everyone goes to do it and then goes back to their designated zone. Rinse and repeat. It's great.
I remember doing my light grind last year for my first weapon, optimising it, reporting to friends on my fastest times, declinging sanity. They at least pulled me out every now and then for raids and roulette, would have gone truly mad otherwise
I did PLD's Zodiac relic before I even got to HW, during EW. At level 60. On the free trial. It was awful. Keep in mind that "it's easier now" does NOT mean "it's easy". Also, for those giving it a try, Garuda Extreme is better than Aurum Vale for the first light farm. Faster by two thirds, for only slightly less light. If you have two level 90 dps, you can get it done in *9* seconds. Recently helped a friend through theirs and that's how we did that step. Just spamming the quest and trying to beat the time each run. I think our lowest was 6 seconds if we got every hit off just right.
Garuda is faster, but if you're ever worried about hitting the duty limit (if you want to do duty roulettes or cap tomes the same day) then Aurum is better.
you dont need to comeplete a leve, you can just pick one up and abandon it and it still refreshes the list, picking up a level changes the list not completing them
Great video, Rinon. I did the NIN weap myself and a BLM one and can tell you your chat definitely did you a favor. Maybe unintentionally because they wanted you to suffer but optimized you can finish Aurumn Vale with NIN in like 1:09 or even faster. And the weapon looks the best imo from all ARR ones. Even better than the Ultimate daggers of any Ultimates. With BLM it would've been major pain to farm fates AND run Aurumn AND do books. I thought you're on Light not Chaos. Thanks for the p12s guide it's pretty standard here.
I didn't do my ARR Relic in 1 day, but I did do it on the Free Trial. No market board access - I had to get all of the materia and crafted items manually! I worked on it slowly in the background and it took like 3 months - mostly because of the materia and a couple of craft materials that can only drop from certain treasure maps. The 300k gil cap was also a bit of an issue with regards to getting the desynth items since they only come from overpriced vendor items.
light farming can be done in half an hour ish with spamming ifrit, 3 seconds per run its longer to load in and out than do the fight. works for both light farms
This only works on JP, in NA you have to alternate between King Moogle EX and Ifrit EX otherwise you will get RP locked every other Ifrit run. Still a lot faster than Aurum vale farming, though. Difference between ~128 Light/min vs. ~48 Light/min.
I've done like 4-5 Zetas and the last 2 were a breeze because of World travel. It makes Books so much faster it's a night and day difference. I think my last weapon I finished in 2 days.
im on my 6th ARR weapon, you can get the crafted step open as you're doing books (after the first weapon) so the dungeons you do for books also work for the crafted step
the tip about picking up the levequests in advance for future books is an absolute godsend as i'm literally on the books step of a zodiac weapon grind right now.... my second one, that is. wish i'd thought of doing that on the first one! but at least i can do it on this second time around.
I enjoyed the pain so much, I did all 10 of them For the levepart, if u hold the ones u dont want, the leves will be forced to pick the ones u want to fill the pool, making that part pretty much not RNG at all, especially handy if u do multiple relics
What amazing accomplishment, ARR RELIC in 1 day!, i remember getting a PLD relic weapon right after i beat ARR when i was like lvl 62 and broke, the whole ARR relic took me like an month to complete
I have personally hit the instance cap before. I had enough supplies to grind out two HW relic weapons, and I was also working on getting a mount in an extreme trial the same day. I did a bunch of unsynced runs of the old Xtreme trial, then did a whole bunch more instanced runs as part of The relic grind, and I hit the 100 limit.
fun fact. You don't ahve to turn the leve in to trigger a new one showing up. You just have to complete it. this works 95% of the time, so you can actually forcably get the entire leve list from a single levemete into your quest log at once. It doenst' fix everyting but it takes a big bite out of the RNG aspect of it
I remember doing the bow together with a friend because it was such a pain, we could only handle one book a day because after that we were already exhausted. Luckily he was also a rich crafter so getting some of the items was easier. But that didn't stop me from going "Are we done yet?" after every step. Having the stamina and motivation to do this in one day baffles me (and I learned of the duty limit I never heard anything about) so congrats. Also I really like the Zeta weapon designs, feel like they totally hold up to modern relics
I got my Yoichi Bow Zeta before Heavensward released. It took quite a bit of effort, but having that sweet glowy boy going into the next bit of content was fantastic.
Just watching JustRuss' reaction to this and when you talked about Alexandrite and the tome requirements of those one thing I suddenly remembered was there is another way to collect Alexandrite if you are insane enough to do it. If you farm FATEs in ARR with the Animus weapon equipped they sometimes can drop 1 Alexandrite at about the same rate as the atma with the Zenith weapon.
definitely make sure you hang onto that weapon because unlike every other relic weapon, you have to actually bring the completed zodiak weapon with you to the replica vendor to buy versions of any of the steps for glam
Last year I decided I wanted to get all of the ARR relics done. So I've been slowly working on doing the steps for all of them one by one. I only have three relics to get past the books.
For the book step if your fate isn’t popping up I’m 99 percent sure you can just start doing the other fates in the area to get your desired fate to spawn when I’ve done this before assuming my fate hasn’t spawned yet it takes me 5-10 minutes to spawn in my experience
When I did the Atma stage at release, I was able to get the second set in less than an hour(basically two weapons done). That pissed a lot of people off that were still hunting for 1 in the same zone when I returned.
FYI just did my ARR relic yesterday (took me 3 days) but at the last step where you need to farm light 12 times me and a friend ran the trial ultima's Bane. 6 second clear time and only takes 5 runs per step. It works on the light farming in the earlier step as well and is SO MUCH FASTER than running dungeons. Finished that step in less than 1 hour.
Why did you do Aurum Vale? Tam-Tara Deepcroft is so much easier unsynced and gives the same amount of light. ;) Also, I did not realize that there is a 100 duty limit cap which bans you from Duty Finder until the reset. I guess it's because I didn't do 100 dungeons in a single day.
Tam tara has object interactions and delayed mob spawning. For av, no need to kill the mobs except bosses and the morbols so av may be easier for dps unsync I guess
it took me 1 year to do all the ARR relics and about 25-50million Gil and 1 ARR relic requires about 1.4million gil in total to complete each Arr Relic requires close to that much gil to do
i do remember these caps were added for safety of players health. it seems odd but i do recall an interview where they explained why this exists. its not to deal with bots though but thats most i recall other than what i mentioned as possible recalled factoids.
you can also get a lot of alexandrite pretty quick by doing the treasure maps for them, which is a looooot faster than any of the other methods. (but still not quite as fast as already having them im a retainer I guess lol)
I just finished my second zodiac and for the final light farm and there's two things that really struck me. (books are books, nothing special here) This go around, for my final step, I bribed a friend with the inferno horns we'd find and did ifrit ex. At 30 seconds each run and 2-3 runs per mahatma, this step did not take that long. The backbreaker here is the books, and the gil step if you dont have that much. I only had 1.5 mil going into this and now I hover at about 50k. Still, congrats on your weapon! the Zodiacs are one of the best looking weapons in the game
I'll fully admit, my trick for doing teh Atma step was to keep grinding FATEs until I had enough duplicates of every Atma so I could just immediately skip straight to the book step of FATEs. I'm working at getting every Relic Weapon in FF XIV for every job, so I've got a fair bit of overall work, but it'll be a great flex, since it' smostly just time consuming, and it's a great time-sink in between major patches.
Unsynced didn't exist in ARR, dungeons were a lot harder then they are now, drop rates are improved from what they were.. In short everything is a lot easier now then they used to be.
Good job. For the next challenge/Zodiac, try doing it old-school. No server/DC hopping, no pre-farming Alexandrites and start the run with 0 poetics :D
making the calculations it's like... 6 duties on the first step + 27 on the books step, +42 on the light step (dunno how many had bonuses) + 18 on the mahatma step, it's a total of 93 duties per day you can do in this game before the restriction activates xD
It took me a month or two to grind out my Zodiac weapon. I had the bright idea to go out of my way to level up all my crafters to 50, gear them up (and collect all of the Supra/Lucis tools) so that I could do the craft parts on my own.
Why has no one in the comments mentioned the fact that there was (and still is) a 0.02% chance that when Jahlzahn melds your zodiac weapon into a Zeta, the meld can FAIL OUTRIGHT, destroying the weapon and all components completely?
you can also grind all the atma crystals early if you plan on getting all ARR relic weapons. I have like 2 and a half ARR relics and it's the worst grind in the game because of the SHEER amount of dungeons you have to run as well as the atma grinding (if you grind for all 12 weapons at once)
I have done Zodiac weapons (when able to no-life them) in about 3 days each on average entirely solo. I genuinely recommend using Bozja for grinding poetics and just AFK for FATEs to spawn at specific locations rather than seever hopping so you retain your sanity.
I did only a Zodiac weapon and was for the Warrior Axe and tbh, the light farm was the thing that traumatized me and made me never want to step into Sastasha again. I chose to spam Sastasha because I could 1 shot most things with the relic still so I wouldn't accidentally forget to swap weapons before exiting dungeon/equipping it before the final boss.
The big problem with the books is that they dont allow you to get into the flow of the grind. Usually, if you have a big task of killing billions of mobs you eventually just enter a zen state of mind where time flies by and you dont even notice the grind anymore. Not so much here, with the book giving you tasks all over the world, where you must constantly travel back and fro zone after zone after zone. This more then killing tons of mobs grinds my gears so much it becomes unthinkable to continue.
I started a zodiac weapon years ago, and I quit partway through my first book. It's still there in my quest inventory, using space, next to the obsolete Aether Compass I don't want to discard.
I have done this relic twice and and i think what kills me to with this relic is that for the 2nd half of it there is no quest what so ever, you have to go into your COMPLETED quests to keep track of what you were asked to do and for certain parts of the relic it's SUPER vague just reading what's in the quest log to try and figure out what to do. it's is not a "hard" relic to get but it is stupid grindy all that said i would do this over bozja and eureka any day of the week.
I remember doing the atma grind when it first came out on my old ps4 account, it was miserable, took me weeks of grinding FATEs and i never did get all 12.. think i made it to 8 and just stopped playing from general burnout but im sure grinding for atma every day accelerated the progress. Years later i got a pc and made a new account so that relic will forever be unfinished, glad to hear they've drastically increased the drop rate of atma though, cuz that shit sucked.
Im not sure if Aurum Vale is truly the most time efficient way of doing the Nexus Light farm. I did it doing King Moggle Mog Extreme over and over again, and since you can kill him with some coordination within 30 seconds or less, especially with friends, even factoring in loadingscreens you make much more light per minute/hour even though you dont get as much light per kill
Part of me wants to make this relic on the free trial, but that is pretty intimidating. In particular, the zodiac stage looks intimidating since it requires eight high quality crafted items. Apparently the only way to get some materials on the free trial is through desynthesis? Oh man.
as someone that has near all the relics and is working on completing my last 3 manderville relics, i just hope dawntrail has hand/land relics, i liked doing those~
I've done two Zodiac relics so far and I still don't understand why each one needs nine animus books. We're only updating four skills by a tiny amount in the end, so surely it would make more sense to just have one book per skill for a totof four. It would still be grindy but you'd cut that step down by more than half.
Completing relics is a drug that I recommend to anyone. It feels so wonderful to put a lot of effort into something and have it completed. Go do your relics! It's amazing!
Lol I did mine with monk. It took a week for mine. There is nothing on the net about this but the fates with axe icons have the highest drop rate for atma. This was discovered after multiple are relic weps. The odds always greatly increased on those fates compared to others.
I decided a while back to get all my ARR relics. I got ALL to book stage and got some finished...but that was where the grind got too tedious and my brain stopped giving me the rewarding dopamine hit and I stopped. Maybe I'll ho back to it after i catch up on the more current content i've been putting off like....the MSQ
i've been doing the dragoon relic for like a year (with time taken off the game though now and then) and every time i look at the stupid books i wanna plunge the gae bolg through my abdomen, it's so monotonous especially by yourself, plus the tomestones, plus alexandrite.. thinking about just doing the eureka ones at this rate lol