The Ugly Truth About The 2023 NBA MVP Debate 

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Perk criticizing that Jokic should not win a 3rd MVP due to his skin color is an all-time low take.

I think I’m pulling for the Nuggets this year. It would be great karmic justice if they win the title after this circus show Perk and the rest of basketball media pulled.

Jefferson telling Perk to hush up was so satisfying. ☺️

Problem with Jokic is that he can't pick fouls, his team is built around to him to prevent him taking fouls. But if u check 4th quarters, their "clutch" defense was the best in the league, why? Because Jokic in the 4th can step up and don't worry about fouls anymore, he can press on defensively. He is so valuable that benching him when he is in foul trouble can lose them a game, and refs are not a fans of him.

The thing that aggravates me the most online about this whole MVP debate is people who say Jokic shouldn't get the MVP since Giannis didn't get it when he got two and so on - people are acting like the history of the award itself should have a role in who is the most valuable player of the year - for me at least, that makes 0 sense. Voter fatigue is a phenomenon that happens, people act like it should be a rule or like it was already a rule set in place. Incompetent voting in the past shouldn't dictate your vote now. You aren't "getting revenge for LeBron and Kobe" you're just fucking up the system even more. I understand all arguments about Embiid deserving it on his own merit, but points like that give me brain damage.

Jokic is just better then everyone. He should win MVP every year

that Jay Williams take was nothing but pure hate... Bro said he will take kyrie over Jokic lmao

Here’s what all these analysts are missing. It doesn’t matter if his defense is meh or even bad. Net On/Off, BPM, RAPTOR, Real Plus/Minus, Win Shares, all of these take what happens on defense into account. And as we all know, Jokic destroyed everyone in those stats. And all this reaching is purely done (aside from being there to drum up views) to give an excuse to vote for anyone aside from Jokic, when all the advanced stats are unanimous that he deserves it, it’s pathetic.

Jokic should win based on logic, stats, number 1 seed, still winning, and being the fact the team has hard time functioning without him in the court

the fact that embiid has 2 20 point scorers on his team is ridiculous while giannis and jokic had the best records in both conferences

Whoever is going to win this award, I'm just glad this whole debacle is over. The media coverage of this year's MVP race as much as you wanna evade, it felt like they just kept on going with over the top takes one after another.

Here’s the thing yes Jokic should win mvp imo but he won’t because MJ never won 3 straight due to voter fatigue and lebron never won 3 straight mvps because it’s “if mj never won mvp 3 straight then why should lebron” (even though D Dose absolutely deserved it in 2011 and the perception around Lebron when he was winning mvps was different than it was today) keep in mind too Jokic has not won a ring yet and the mindset is “If mj and Lebron never did this then why should this guy with no rings who never even made it past the WCF should”

If the heat doesn’t win the chip, I’ll be happy if Denver do just so Jokic can silent all the haters

Honestly i feel like Joker tanked on purpose because of how ugly the debates got. Either the winner is gonna feel so tainted no matter what.

Perk clips were killing me. Stephan A set me off just staring at the camera 😭

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perk was a terrible player he shouldn’t even be mentioning his time in locker rooms

MVP Jokič

They should just give it to Rudy Gobert to honor the worst trade in the history of the NBA.

Perkins had a Scott Adams moment lol

Embiid the 🤡 is gonna be remembered as THE PITY MVP 😢😢😂😂😂

What is uchiwalli?

best ending possible was him winning his 3rd straight MVP today but it being the Bill Russell MVP

I have a very simple formula that would guarantee the correct player gets MVP every year: Win Shares multiplied by team wins. League leader is MVP. that simple. I won't go over all the past MVPs, but using this formula: Jokic would be the runaway winner the past 3 seasons. Nowitzki would've won both seasons Nash won. Jordan would've won over Magic for 2 of his 3 MVPs (although one was really close). Bird was the deserving winner all 3 years he won. David Thompson would've won instead of Bill Walton (who only played 58 games that year). and Wilt would have at least a couple more MVPs.

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I think Embiid 100% had a case for MVP before Perk opened his giant cake hole and said aome dumb shit. Now it just looks like a pity vote to give it to Embiid because everybody feels bad for him. If Perk wouldve kept his mouth shut, Embiid still had a huge chance to win it regardless of dumb ass narratives.

Ppl need to leave big Perk alone. He’s been called an Uncle Tom for sticking up for Rachael Nichols and her remarks and now they call him racist for a take, it was just a bad take, i think he just had chip on shoulder from being called Uncle Tom and Draymond called him that on his podcast and everyone lets it go. Just like all the rest of Draymond’s BS.

That white privelege is really helping Joker win MVP this year. Wait..

I dont understand why Embiid isn't hated on or criticized or slandered more than he is atp in his career. Dude basically whined cried and flopped and sulked and pitied his way into an MVP 70% of all league fans knew he didnt deserve this year....AND shat the bed AGAIN in the playoffs......still not making it out the 2nd round for his career. Could you imagine the fucking NUCLEAR heat that lebron wouldve gotten if his career had played out like this up this point. But Embiid gets minimal actual slander, hate, or criticism especially in the national media cuz he has that whole loveable foreigner thing going for him and is a walking meme for the internet crowd. Its time to start speaking truthfully about him. Hes not even the best player in his division, and may not even really be 2nd best at that by the end of next season.

Andrew B 4 hours ago (edited) Anyone with the most rudimentary mathematical aptitude understands that Jokić was factually the most valuable player of the regular season. Jokić outperformed Embiid in nearly every major statistical category (see below). While Embiid did have more PPG, Jokić shot less frequently and more efficiently than Embiid by a wide margin (FG: 63.2% > 52.8%). Moreover, Jokić averaged more than twice as many assists as Embiid during the regular season (9.8 > 4.2). Jokić scored fewer PPG only because he, unlike Embiid, passes the ball. He is not merely a scorer, but a playmaker. Jokić outperformed Embiid in all other major statistical categories, except blks. Jokić wins above replacement (WAR) = 23.2 (first in the league). Embiid WAR = 14.3. WAR probably captures MVP status better than any other single statistical metric. Math is not "subjective." It's clear that the voters selected the MVP on some criteria other than actual merit. "MVP" Embiid's stats per game for the series PTS: 25.5 FG: 42% Reb: 9 Ast: 2 Blk: 3 Stl: 0.5 Team eliminated. Jokić's stats per game vs The Suns PTS: 34.5 FG: 59.5% Reb: 11.2 Ast: 10.33 Blk: 1 Stl: .83 Surpasses Wilt Chamberlin for most triple-doubles by a center in playoff history. Team advances to Western Conference Final. These numbers only further reinforce what we already know: Jokić is the real MVP.

I feel like people will always downplay Embiid’s MVP this season unless he can manage to win it again next season or the season after that. Similar to how people downplay lebron’s 2020 championship.

If not jokic, giannis. Vice versa

Jokic deserves an apology

You bet

perkins mentioned time period of 1990 onwards to point out 3 white players, 2 previous years mvp was magic johnson who was also not top 10 scoring player. after this take it's pretty obvious - the guy has hate inside him and goes on mass media platform to purposefully sow division and spread hate. he should be taken off air

I don’t think jokic cares about winning another mvp now.

once a fair competition based on exact statistics turns into semi-political frustration and the opinions of people who put the affective far above the intellectual, you have permanently tarnished and destroyed this type of competition. sad NBA

Jokic def deserved it. By far the best #s in the league

I thought it meant Most “Valuable” Player. Aka the best player in the league that make your teammates & your team better. Everyone know the Nuggets are terrible when Jokic isn’t on the floor. That stat alone make him the “Valuable”. Idk this years Vite definitely felt like a pity me vote for Embiid because he complains about it publicly. But hey Who’s in the Finals this year & Broke Wilt record?

Kendrick Perkins is the real MVP 🫡

And who's the champion 2023😂Hole playoff run was amazing(never done before) =Nicola Jokić🤗

well, the media said Will Levis could be #1

Jokic and Giannis had stronger cases than Embiid, But what do I know

Definitely, "white guilt" played a factor in this year's MVP vote because of Perkins' comments.

It's the fact that his first two MVPs should have went to Embiid or Giannis (according to alot of fans) that have people upset. If this was his first or scond MVP people wouldn't be so pissed.

Just seen this video I’m not gone give you that Angel Reese take or that take about cp3 not being in the mvp race when joker was 6th last year cuz you actually just flat out wrong that Angel Reese thing was just flat out racism and we all know that cut it out. And even if you do give Steve mash that mvp over Kobe (which I definitely don’t ) the fact that you not sayuthe same thing about cp3 and how he should at least be talked about in the mvp run and he wasn’t they did move the “Goal post” and that shit is closet racism if you don’t at least mention that it’s weird cp wasn’t talked about at all because why wasn’t he and his team had the best record in the league under the exact same stipulations that Steve mash won his second mvp. Aside from that I agree with everything else you said but that other shit you talking about you dead wrong

Bottom line Jokic shouldn't have won the award last year. Jokic had another great year, but the Nuggets were the 6 seed and Booker, Giannis, and Embiid were more deserving based on a combo of stats and team success, the usual criteria. The NBA messed up. Jokic actually had his best season this year and the Nuggets are atop the West so he has a great argument to win it. But I think the NBA is going to give Embiid a sympathy MVP. Giannis should get it this year imo.

Embiid deserves mvp this year imo

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Steve Nash def didn't deserve either of those MVPs. That situation is weird af tbh

Cool video I loved it but you kinda just sound like an upset nuggets fan and essentially was saying he only didn’t win 3 because the league couldn’t give him 3 because he’s that great of a player stats don’t tell the entire story every season is different that’s why Nash won over Shaq and that’s why drose won over Kobe and Lebron just cuz he averaged almost a triple double doesn’t mean he should just win cuz of that Joel had just as good as a season even better in my opinion. Then pulling only negative comments as if that’s the larger narrative that the media is taking when it is just the opposite. Mass media is in love with jokic I can find more positive takes of jokic play than negative takes “but the Perk take was just a bad take” and stats about Jokic that the media put out but your not being honest about Jokic yourself. Because all the offense goes through him he plays half ass defense and to add to that he kinda sucks on defense period not compared to the nba but compared to his mvp counterparts he ranks dead last in my opinion one part it’s to keep his energy other part he just isn’t at an mvp level on defense that’s a fact for you to act like he doesn’t play poor defense your lying to your self. For you to say his defense is a perceived weakness is a terrible take his defense is so bad that the coach takes him out in clutch moments. Stop acting as if he is perfect he didn’t win mvp because of his lack of defense and Joel Embiid stellar defense this season that’s a big reason why. Joel and Jokic offense this year is about equal at mvp levels with Joel scoring more and Jokic assisting more the difference just being a matter of styles and preference of course but Joel does get the nod he was scoring leader 1-0 or 1-1 but where Joel wins this year really is his hustle and defense hard to put into stats but he far surpasses Jokic this year in that category 2-0 or 2-1. That’s the only reason why he didn’t win MVP if you can’t acknowledge that you are just a super nuggets fan or an Embiid hater simple. He lost because he lost not because he couldn’t win 3 straight stop that narrative. Let’s keep it simple The MVP has to Lead, Win, hustle and play both sides in my opinion. Joel has either tied or done better in all categories this year. Also impressive performances adds to an MVP just like when missing games hurts your MVP odds doesn’t matter if it happened the first game of the season or the last it’s not biased because when Embiid didn’t play against jokic at the end of the season jokic had better odds at winning the MVP. Embiid got 73% of first place votes for a reason they didn’t get it wrong.

Jokic shouldn’t have won it last year. Dumb narrative reason for that win.

EVERYBODY KNOWS IT EMBID THEN AKEMOTOPA AND NOKALA IS THIRD PLACE IN REGULAR SEASON MVP RACE!!! BUT SOME PEOPLE WERE POSTING THAT NOKIC WON AND THEY CAME IN AND SAID NO EMBIB WON!!!!! ITS EMBIB THE ANTOPIA, AND THEN NIKOLA!!!