As someone with 3 years real time of ARK breeding this is the first video I've found that actually explains most of how breeding and mutations work. Nice job!!!
Was pretty darn good but not exactly thorough, as she missed the part where max level is 450. Meaning if people aren't careful of which stats are getting bumped up, they will hit level cap super fast. For those that aren't aware if your tame hatches at 450+ it disappears and an empty egg hatches (or for mammals tame is birthed invisible and disappears/dies instantly). Manas and Velos are at the point right now where it's incredibly hard to find perfect stats because of messy lines. Meaning they have lots of levels or points/ mutations in oxygen/food causing them to start at level 400+. It also doesn't allow you to put any further levels into the tame at 450 so even if it's alive at 449 you don't get to add any levels to ur tame Obviously this just applies to official and some dedis (using official settings) but it's a crucial point not to miss as it affects breeding tremendously and is the reason we need to be careful which stats are getting muts and not just continuing the breeding process with stats we don't want
@@tthompson5707 true yeah her vids are on a different level altogether from the majority of content out there. Wasn't rly a knock more of an important detail for us official only players. There may be more dedi players overall but there are still 1k+ official servers out there haha
If you are breeding thylas, you can now clone thylas for the first time since cloners came into existent 3 years ago. There was a bug where you needed 200k+ shards. This applied to a few other dinos, which im not sure of atm.
Started an Argy line, had all my females and everything, even snagged a couple preferred mutations. Played a little longer and ended up taming a wild one with better melee..now on my second line, only now I have all preferred mutations. Breeding is a pain in the butt lol
Fascinating video. I have a large breeding program. Everything that harvests well, starting to tame boss fighting animals for breeding and more. I appreciate that you also use platforms in your breeding. I have runways set up where either the base females sit at ground level with a male on an overhead walkway platform or the females sit on the overhead platform so one male can walk under them. Depending on if they lay eggs or not and how tall they are. It's nice to see someone else use platforms. I don't think I'm beyond 5 mutations in an Stat so far though but I'll get there. Thanks for the vid
Appreciate the video. I messed up my first boss rex line by mixing in the mutated females and got stuck with all the ghost mutations.. Now have started an even better tek rex line, have set up my perfect pair and got 2 clean melee mutations on my male.. Now i understand how to properly stack them these robo rexs are going to be amazing at the end 😁
I am very new to game so I have 2 dumb questions lol 1. How do you know how many points are in each stat 2. For the mutated males do I just breed till I get males mutated in what I want Video helped a lot to understand more of what breeding is but those two questions are what I didn’t really understand thank you
1. I made a video for the first question :) How to find out statpoints without mods. The short answer is - with the incubator + incubator buff. 2. Short, yes. you only keep the mutations you want.
Excellent video, at timestamp 6:50 you display a graphical interface detailing the amount of levels in each particular stat - is that in the vanilla game? I am familiar with inputting the dinos data into a stat calculator to determine level info but what you are showcasing is spectacular
Unfortunately its not in the Vanilla Game and I wish it was to be honest. This is the spyglass mod "Awesome Spyglass" that we are using on our cluster. It makes life much easier. Alternatively if you play on console or on Official servers, try the software "Ark Smart Breeding".
Hey Tiia. Is it possible to start with all level 1 dinos and breed for separate stat lines. Would this result in a much cleaner line? Also with each mutation giving 2 points, how would you go about getting odd numbers this way? Thanks :)
This video was incredible! I have been struggling to understand the new way of breeding but this makes it soo much clearer, thank you! I would just like to ask... As a console player I can't get the mutation reader that shows whether the starter stat is odd or even, so I was wondering how to tell without that? P.S. Sorry if my question sounds dumb I just couldn't see the correlation. I really appreciate the great effort, time and knowledge put into this video. You're amazing!
Write down the stats of your breeders. Then compare these stats to the baby stats to check what mutated. If you wanna use already leveled or imprinted dinos Then breed them and look at the base stats of the baby before you imprint them, but make sure they dont have mutations. I think she explains that at the end of the video maybe listen to that part again :)
Hi Tiia, Thank you for this video, you said some important things that I have not heard of on other videos. I'm just starting to play with this and have a question: I wanting to breed Therizino's and I'm starting with both male and female at 150. the stats are: 1st Male = Health =4524, Stam =720, Melee =371, The 1st Female = H=5046, S=990, M=315. I kept making babies until I got a mutation, it was twins which I didn't know happened. Mutation in the Health stat. 1st Twin Male = H=4872, S=720, M=371. The twin female was the same but I did not keep her. Later I got a 2nd set of twins (no mutation) but the female had all the good stats so I kept her, 2nd Twin Female = H=5046, S=990, M=371. I have been mating the 1st Male Twin with the 2nd Female twin, but I never see another male go past the 1st mutation. Is it good I mate them or should I keep using the original female 1st Female? Also I have been mating the original pair to see if I can get more females and another mutated Male. so far only 3 more females. Am I doing this correct?
Hey Jeff, do I understand it right that, The first twin had a mutation on the low health stat of the mother and the second twin has no mutation but all the good stats? What I would do now if I was you is mating the first unmutated make that has the 5046 health with the twin female that also has the 5046 health. They should be both unmutated. Then keep mutations out of that. Because there is no point in using a lower stat when you have a higher already available. you just clutter your mutation counter. I am working on an in depth video for the mutation stacking at the moment due high request. It will also explain these cases in detail.
What do you mean by quality if it's the the level? Also just to clear things up you suggest dont level ur dinos after theyre tamed cuz the baby wont get the stats trasfered to it.
Is there a reason to breed for mutations on a single stat and combine the maxed stats later? Wouldn't it make more sense to breed up one lineage so you can accept any mutation on any stat? edit: I think I've answered this question for myself already. So, when breeding there's a 50% chance for any stat to be inherited. If you're breeding to max out 6 stats then the chance of transferring all 6 mutated stats onto the baby is like flipping a coin 6 times and having it land on heads every single time. 50% is 1/2, and to get that 6 times in a row would be (1/2)^6 which is 1/64. To put this into a percentage it would be 1/64*100 = 1.56%. Getting one dino with all stats from the male would on average happen once every 64 eggs. Getting a mutation on any egg is also pretty small, so getting all stats from the father AND a mutation is tiny. And if you get it then it's probably on a female xD
@@akiamini4006 Depending on how much or little knowledge you bring with you, you sometimes gotta start at the very basics. This will help you with it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ee54pE2DsRQ.html If you are playing on official, please check this one here after ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L4zd9-vsIxA.html If you then need a deeper look into mutation stacking, check this one ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ocbVClsEdrk.html And if you are lost after still, message me on discord and we will figure it out TiiaAurora#1337
Amazing video, and you speak so clear and slowly so even an idiot can understand. I am not an idiot, so I had to watch your video at 1.5 speed.......lol. But great info and very informative.
Thats really up to you. I know many people love to collect high stats and then breed them together before mutating. I usually start mutating right away.
@@TiiaAurora also not using the tek mutator, its disabled. But do i keep the group as females as is unitill im done mutating? Do do i swop them out later on for higher level ones as im getting more and more mutations?
That pretty good video now i see everything clear for mutations but i have a problem that i don’t know what to do about it for example i breed 1 melee damage mutation and when i get the egg i want to see it stats in the egg incubator sometimes it don’t trigger the mutation
I have a one snow owl male lvl218 with a one single melee damage mutation and i breed it with a lot unmutated females lvl216 and all the babies supposed to be at least lvl 218 with their father mutation but the babies lvl is 216 and they have 1 mutation in their counter but they don’t trigger the mutation
@@theibraksax3339 yes. As long as one parent has the mutation counter the baby will have it too regardless if it got the stat or not. The counter and the stat are not connected to each other.
I play on single player but I'm breeding a pack of raptors that are boss worthy. Some times its like why am I doing this but once I learned how breeding works in Ark it's really fun.
@@7white7wolf7 150 for all of them. I started with bout 50 or close to that then weeded down to 4. They were the originals. Now the final product is stupid, 10k health well over 1100 melee, after some leveling.
@@squiddad1528 thank you so much! Last question, how did you find that many decent lvl 150's?! I got the super spyglass mod (I'm playing on my own server/solo) and I set the difficulty to max so that they appear, but jaunts around the center (the map I play) yield medium level Raptors. :( is there a secret?
@@7white7wolf7 go to Val or Abberation and find a Featherlight or other light creature, when their light is on it will tell you if a max level creature is near, I found so many, it took a long time but with the light creature it makes it way easier.
12:29 so wait are we leveling the stats we want on the dinos we tamed without imprint?? Im so lost…. 7:50 how did we get 254 in a stat to begin with?… 11:40 what the heck are the mutators that’s not official or in my engrams…. 15:00 I’m beyond lost on this video I’ve tried to understand it now for 7months don’t think I’m going to understand anything explained so far
I got a Question and need help, its about breeding. I completely understand the breeding System and how to do it but.. I always use like x50 multiplier for breeding on the Female Dinos for Rexes etc. so it doesn't take to much time. Am i really forced to boost these stats? Because on normal settings it would take weeks/months to get good Dinos. And from my experience on the Bosses like the Broodmother, you really need Dinos with mutations on meele/health. So is there a way to beat the game on complete legit Settings? I dont get it and i'm desperate
So if I tame a dino and it has odd number of points in the stats I want then its no good, tame another one and hope for even? Not sure if I understand this correctly.
What happens if the random mutation ends up on the female side, but on a male baby? I was breeding Rock Drakes, and got a male egg with the mutated stat I wanted. But, the mutated stat came from the female (even though the female has no mutations). Should I keep this baby or keep breeding until that stat comes from the male?
So basically you breed mutated males with unmutated females to stack mutations, then breed the dino at the end of the health and melee lines (for example) together to combine them? or am i wrong?
@@MartinMartinez-vx8qw When I see the comment I usually try to answer, but sometimes RU-vid will hide comments and I don't even see them in the first place.
Multiple things that still don't clear up in my head after all the guides:1. Why exactly do you have to keep the females at 0/20 - 0/20? As long as they don't reach the 20/20, it should be fine, right? 2. Do the 0/20 on the maternal and on the paternal side add to the 20/20 number that stops them from mutating their stat on the baby? 3. So to get stacks above the 20/20 the clean female has to mutate the father's stat so the baby only carries the paternal mutations? Or doesn't it matter after a while if the alpha male breeder has both mutations from the paternal and maternal side, as long as the clean females stay clean?
1. At least, in the beginning, you only want to have real mutations on your offspring. After the male has its first 20 mutations it doesn't matter too much anymore. But 20 on the male is the cap when the mutation chance halves with noncapped females. so if your female had 10 mutations and your male had 10, any offspring even without mutating would have 20 mutations, to begin with, because 10+10=20. 2. Yes, it does. Both sides combined need to be below 20. 3. Yes, the baby has to inherit the father's stat and the uncapped mother has to mutate it (the mother is basically just an additional chance on causing a mutation, nothing else). Females do not provide their own stats to the breeding. They are pretty much only the "vessels" for birthing the father's stats mutated, that's why I don't care too much about their stats, to begin with. If you female births a new Alpha Male with a mutated stat, it will be 1/20 on the babies mothers side, but as soon as that male is used for breeding, his mutations on both sides will be put together and shown on his babies fathers side. I explained that on my other channel a while ago. Let's say your grandmother - your father's mother has blond hair and so has your father. While blond hair for your father is on his mother's side, for you it would be on your father's side. So if you get blond hair, which has its origin in your grandmothers family, then it's still your dad's side but not your mothers. I hope that helps a bit.
@@TiiaAurora it really did help, thanks :D prolly helps to see the last bit "in action", though that's mostly clear to me now. Also, with point 1, because the mutations can overlap but the babies will take over the mutation numbers from both the mother and father?
Yea the babies mutation counter is always the mother's and father's mutation counter together. The counter doesn't really show how many mutations an animal has, only how high the counter of the parents was. Therefore you really don't want to push it higher artificially by mating mutated with mutated but try to only collect 'real' mutations.
Thanks for trying, but this is still going over my head. You'd think ARK could make this process more simplified and, above all else, explained in game.
When trying to get the correct even / odd number combination - even after trying mutagen - is the only way to just keep breeding until you're "lucky" that the correct stats transfer from parents to egg?
I am restarting my breeding lines after losing my single player on PS4 and this video is very helpful. I would appreciate a little clarification on the philosophy behind the 254/255 stats. Could it be said that most dinos will need 254 on melee, at the expense of all the other stats? I think this may be a min/max strategy and looking for some confirmation on this. Also, when I breed my Theris for the dragon boss on the Island, would it be more effective to go for 255 max on all stats, except melee (aim for 254)? Or would I be able to have 254 for health and melee, with remaining stats at 255? As I am at the start of the breeding again, I want to be more efficient from the start this time around.
You go 254 on all important stats you want to level. Thats the only reasoning behind it. With theris, don't go to high health cause fire damage is percentage damage.
I feel like most videos miss something. So basically, for official servers you tame a lot to find the stats you need. Then bam! The video jumps to a pair of dinos of the same level with the stats you need for breeding. How is that possible? I feel like that part is missing right there. I found two pteras of different levels and one had good hp other had good stamina. Been breeding both and I can't seem to get the perfect pair of an unmutated female and mutated male with the stat I need at the level I need them to be.
What eggs should be hatched or avoided? Mutated females don't hatch. Only males and Only males with higher state than previous male should be used then to breed . Right?
Depends. If you have really low breeding settings it would be worth hatching the females, and breeding them back to an unmutated male and hoping the stat transferred to a male offspring.
I am breeding sinks and recently got one with an increase of stam and hp non mutated I’m very new and wondering if the odd and even numbers are their base stat without leveling or the amount of lvl up points you put into that stat
if the parents were tamed at a low taming efficiency but not enough to lose a whole level, the offspring will be reverted back to a higher taming efficiency-value. Maybe thats what you saw
So to determine which baby is useful and which is slaughtered must before fully imprinted. I understand this, my question is how do you discern which stat got mutated if a baby did get a mutation that is not a color? Thank you
@@TiiaAurora Damn I see. It is now coming together as to how breeding in such a pain in the prick when it comes to defeating Ark. And your ass is a breeding fiend. Your level of patience is astounding
What I don't understand is the odd and even numbers thing. How do I make sure a number is odd or even in the first place? Wouldn't they all be even since levels only go up in increments of 2 at a time?
Only the mutations go up in 2 level steps. The levels animals get into the different stats are completely random. Let's say you have 31 points in health. It's an odd number. A mutation will turn it into 33, which is still an odd number. Nothing at this point can change it into an even number. So you may have to tame animals over and over again until you get an odd or even number, depending on what you are looking for.
I think I understand this correctly. Does the odd/even rule mean that you have to start with wild males that tamed out with an even number of points in your specific stat? And how long does it take to actually get a mutated male with the mutated stat you want to replace your current breeding males? I've been trying to get some rexes up for doing the bosses and I haven't replaced the males yet after about 6 batches of babies. Unfortunately no S+ mutator because the rexes are for bosses and I don't have the tekgram.
How many females do you have? On average they say it's every 40th baby that gets a mutation (not the right mutation but a mutation at all). But I think those numbers are a little low. Even without mutator I often get 2-3 mutated babies in 20-30 babies being born. I would either higher the number you have or if you can use the hatchery, leave them on mating over night and mass hatch them afterwards.
@9:39 so glad to see someone else note that stats don't matter on the females when breeding for mutations. I keep seeing all this advice everywhere about 'get a matching pair and breed from that' and I'm just like... why?
Maybe you don't want to get a male baby with desired mutations, but with stats coming from low stat female? I guess it doesn't matter much if you are still in a middle of process, since you will get that stat back later, but might be a valid concern on last stage.
I had this same question. Nearly everyone else recommends starting with a matching pair and only breeding with a set of matched unmutated females. Without a cloner this is very time consuming
@@andrisorinskis yeah, that last stage is when I'd worry about finding a matching set. And given how long it can take to get Perfect Stats (depending on rates) I might even do that in the middle of the process - to get a pack of my Current Best Stats to use for the moment while I continue trying to further improve the breeding lines on the side. But doing it right at the start just feels like an extra step that isn't really necessary. Unless what I want is a starter pack of my best (unmutated) stats to use while I'm working on the mutations.
My assumption is that one person heard it from another tutorial and then never questioned why and kept repeating it. I found it being a waste of time on unofficial and useless on official since you need to downbreed stats here anyway.
Good video. You explained it slowly and very well and I like your setup. I imagine everyone uses a setup like it because it's clearly most likely the only way to get them close enough to as many females as possible. I watched another video where someone explained it on paper 😂 which led to so many questions. But this helped a lot with no questions. Thank you!
Old video, sorry for replying on it several years later. Currently doing my unofficial run through of all bosses on a cluster. Currently breeding tek rexes and I can’t figure out why you would want to cap off leveling for some stats? Like the griffin in the video had several 255 stats, which as I understand are now unlevelable. Why would you make stats 255? Isn’t it better to get all the stats at 254, so leveling all stats remains an option? What’s the advantage of having some stats mutated to 255 instead of 254?
@@TiiaAurora You're amazing! Thanks for the reply :D I thought that would be the answer, but I didn't want to make an assumption. Thanks again, best breeding & mutation video's around!
I did a poll about that before I made the video actually and people said music - no matter what is super distracting. or people said they listen to their own music anyway. So I left it out.
Our admin made a mod that will give unbreedable animals a buff so they can breed. they are normally breedable here. We also dont have a level cap. so breeders can breed as much as they want.
I have a question, so when mutating let's say I have a 20/20 mutated dino on both sides, and it was like 345, but then I want to breed in the colors that the other dino has and it is a totally different level, would that by any chance mess the process up because this is my first time actually mutating (sorry if this makes no sense)
See it as a big color + stat combination project. The same way you can combine the best stats on dinos, you can also combine colors and stats. I usually have an animal with the right colors already prepared and then breed them and keep the ones with the most stat + right colors and then combine further from that. It's a little chaotic but worth it. Btw you can have more than 20/20 on a dino.
It's a technical restriction inside the game, so you won't be able to go past that. But the higher the difficulty of your game is to get higher levels - the higher and harder the bosses are because they get more damage reduction.
I am new to breeding and have no idea if you will answer, but when you talked about unmutated females can they still be the offspring or do they need to be caught originally and not bread into existence? Also do mutations on stats - like one is the highest but the counter doesn’t show matter?
@@TiiaAurora do you mean 0 on the counter? As I believe I have a stat mutation, but it hasn’t shown on the counter that’s why I am confused. It seems to be a higher stats than both parents, but could it also be I have miscounted? Thanks for messaging back I really appreciate it and love your videos also, so thanks on both parts
@@oliverwrench9109 yes if both sides of the counter are 0 then its mutation free. Check out the breeding for absolute beginners video on my channel. it explains the different levels on babies.
I have a general question hopefully... we use the spyglass mod on our server with wild dinos max lvl 150, what is the highest wild base stat(I feel like I've seen 31-32 range?) and after taming it gets boosted to stats(like 44ish) with taming bonus but I guess I don't know the "Max stats"? Am I in the range of a good breeding with those stats?
Here you can see the level spread for a non-flyer. It shows how common/uncommon they are. 31-32 is actually a really good guess. cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/620991766514106388/994385423730229278/unknown.png
My deinonychus mutations are being confusing. When i breed them, they will rarely have every stat of the dad. For example: My 3 hp one would have babies with 0, 1, 2, or 3 mutations active instead of just 3 making it hard to mutate
Regarding the odd and even stat points, is it always going to be random depending on the wild dinos stats? I.e. the wild dino has 37 points in melee and is this not possible to fix through breeding? And if it is not possible could you breed the stats to 253 points instead of the max of 255 and still be able to level afterwards?
So, if u have a health,stam, and melee mutation male and want to stack more. U have to get lucky with all 3 stats carrying over, a mutation in one of the stats, and for it to be male?
Very helpful video! One thing I don’t get... on Xbox how do I not imprint? I have to get in their inventory and feed them and I can’t do that if I don’t imprint. Thanks in advance!
Claiming is fine. I know it's called imprinting aswell so it might be confusing. But you can skip the part where they ask for cuddles, walking or special food.
@@TiiaAurora Thanks for the reply! So, when born naming them is ok, but don’t cuddle, walk, etc... What’s the advantage of not imprinting? (Also imprinting doesn’t seem to change anything. Maybe I’m just missing something here. lol) Thanks again!
Imprinting will higher certain stats and when fully imprinted they do 30% more damage and take 30%less when ridden by the imprinter. Not imprinting your breeders has 2 advantages. You see what their base stats are by checking their inventory and you save time and resources. Since those dinos will never be used other than breeding, there is no point spending time on it
So I have been watching all kinds of breding videos trying to find this answer, but have yet to actually find it. How do you get 20/20 if you only swap out males AND if the counter is always combined mutations?
Check out my video about mutation stacking. I did explain it in detail there and did all the math through one mutation line. That will probably help you ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ocbVClsEdrk.html&ab_channel=Tiia
SUPER helpful video! Although, I do have a question that I'm not sure if I just misunderstood in the video or what, but: I bred for a health mutation on my Shadowmane. I got to about 2 health mutations out of 20 on my male when the baby that got one was a female but the mutation for health somehow came from the mother's side? Did I do something wrong? The mother was a unmutated Shadowmane that was the exact same as all the others. Is this normal, or did I mess something up? I do have S+ and a spyglass mod on my server so I can see where stats are, but I'm just super confused if I messed something up, shouldn't all of the mutations show up on the father's side?
@@TiiaAurora Thank you I appreciate the answer!! I actually watched the second part to this video you made and got the answer there but forgot to update my comment LOL
Okay I do actually have one question because some other people are making me doubt myself lol. As long as you are only replacing your males, it shouldn't matter if one of them has a mutation on the maternal side right? Because technically you want all mutations stacked on one side, but sometimes I get a yuti that has a maternal mutation. So is it okay to use those or do I have to wait until it gets a mutation on the paternal side only?
it doesn't matter where you get the mutation, no. Because when you switch out the male that has a mutation left, they all will stack on the right for his son. it's impossible to accidentally stack mutations on the left because you would need to switch out to mutated females for it. which we dont. maybe check my mutation stacking video. it explains it in detail
@@TiiaAurora right, I totally forgot that as long as your females are unmutated ur fine cuz its based on which *parents are below 20 mutations, not parental lineage. My bad haha
1. Why don't the females' stats matter? Is this only for if you want to max mutate every stat? Can I just breed the highest stat I've found for the stats I'm not mutating? 2. How do you get past the mutation limit? I'm unsure how you able to get so many mutations without going past the limit. I know breeding dinos with different individually mutated stats together (Ex: 20/20 stam + 20/20 dmg + 20/20 health = 40/20 father and 20/20 mother) will allow you to go past but this is mutating an individual stat past the limit not breeding together and combining stats. 3. Must I find a high leveled individual stat for this to work in the long run? It's wordy but I just wanted to be detailed and make it easier for you to understand and comprehend
1. For the Mutation itself they don't matter. If you need to use the Inbetween products, let your females have all good stats combined before mutating. 2. That's the part where I explain the mutation stacking. Every Baby has 2 chances to mutate, one chance from the mother's side, one from the father's side. If dad is capped, the always uncapped mother's can and will cause mutations. These will stack on the dad's side of the pedigree cause the dad is the only mutated animal. 3. Like in the video mentioned. It depends on your server setting. If they are quick, medium stats will do, if they are slow, hunt the best stats possible.
