Thanks! You got me hooked on insane SFF builds (and RU-vid) so you're partly responsible for all this. The cubic infill side panels could work really well on a dual radiator custom loop build, no turbulence to worry about 👀.
@@diegocervantes4977 I haven't personally tested it, but the consensus has always been that top exhaust is the better configuration in the T1, no matter if air cooling or liquid cooling.
@@diegocervantes4977 there should always be a balance of intake and exhaust. the GPU cooler and CPU cooler both act as intake because of how they're oriented, so the few case fans you can fit in there should be oriented to exhaust. air can find its way into a compact system but it's kinda hard to get it out without some encouragement
This is EXACTLY what I have been looking for. Sitting on a 7800X3D and a 3080 TUF on the ASUS B650I and was just waiting for the right sign to start my T1 build. Just ordered the case and 3d prints, thank you so much for your hard work.
I really hope he does a detailed build guide video on this. So many people would love to build an air cooled T1 exactly like this to avoid the complexities and maintenance problems of going with a custom loop.
I LOVE the efficiency and simplicity in this build. Not needing any pumps, radiators or tubing that could all fail. Just having two really solid exhaust fans that carry the whole build. The airflow path is very satisfying. It looks classy af. Now imagine this with a 5090 and 9800x3d. That's what I want to build in 2025!
This is amazing, not idea how you don't have a larger following. Very impressive. I've got my full build waiting patiently for me to be able to snag a titanium T1. Very similar build to yours, can't wait.
This is awesome. I have a 5900X and 7900xt in my T1 v2.5, with basic AIO, and everything works well and is dead quiet (to my old ears anyway). I have these components, because they were just what was in my old ITX build, but it's nice to know if I upgrade in the future, and want to go air cooled, that someone has put in the hard work to prove what is possible. Thanks so much!
Wow this is really unexpected plot twist haha. A year ago I have the same specs as you but only 7900X (bought it a couple months before the 7800X3D came out) and I dreamed of making the same custom loops as you, but it required a lot more time money and effort, so I built air cooling version exactly the same as you in this video except for the custom stuff and I'm happy. But still there are two important changes. 1. I installed a 120mm Noctua on the CPU through the adapter, it's a little quieter and gives a little better temperature, including cooling the RAM as well. 2. At first I had a regular APX90-X47 Full Copper like yours, but it annoyed me with its color and I found a rare Full Copper Graphene Coated version on T-Mall, it's gray, thank god now I can sleep well. Thanks for the video! Now I won't have to worry and dream about a custom loop like yours. And thanks for the 3d exhaust, that's an interesting idea. I also didn't know about the travel kit and it annoyed me that the 4090 tilts a bit.
Awesome video - the turbulence noise for the cuboid is mainly from the shape I've found, smaller holes and round holes specifically seem to help a lot more. A good example is the Fractal Terra which has horrid turbulence noise compared to the T1 if you stick either side panel directly on top of a fan
Can't beat that Corsair sf750. I also have one that's in its third build. It's currently running a 5600x/3080 system in an Ncase M1 without breaking a sweat.
Hey man, a quick question. In the video, you said cpu fan is NF-A9, which is 25mm, while in the recommended parts list, you linked NF-A9x14, which is 15mm. Which one did you use in this build? P.S. I don't think T1 on 3/3.25 slot has enough clearance to fit x47+NF-A9 (58mm in total).
Just a note here: The Full Black should perform equal to Full Copper, but I've seen reports that it's usually just the Black model mislabeled, and that one is aluminium instead of copper. Where did you order it from?
@@EIGAtechOrdered from Ali Express. searched for over and hour but i found a seller with one for sale. I really dislike the copper aesthetic. The seller is Dial Factory Store Store
The freaking pcie extension is so delicate, I had problems for a week trying to turn on the pc, thought it was the ram, than the motherboard, than the power supply and at last it was the pcie extension. I reassemble everything back together and try and put the pcie extension as best and delicate as I could and it finally turned on. Happy with my build, im rocking the 13600kf, 32 gbs 7200mhz ram, rtx 4070ti super, and cooler master 850w sfx power supply, with the same cpu cooler you are using. Also the phanteks at the top. But i needed to undervolt a lot on the cpu because it gets vey hot and I like to keep it lower than 70. My gpu is always at less than 55. I use it on my room as a gaming console on my tv.
I get the anxiety of high CPU temps, but the reality is that the design philosophy as of late is to let them run hot, and a target of 70C may be too unrealistic depending on load scenario.
Thanks to your vid, I think I'm comfortable going this route for my move from full tower to a FormD T1 case. I wanted to use the phanteks evolv shift xt initially, but this would be slimmer and more modular. Spending on a 240mm AIO, and routing tubes, seems too compromising and expensive. The only difference is that I have a 3090 FE, which has me unsure(wishing) the travel kit would work, along with the phantesk 850sfx. I'll be looking into getting a 14600k(getting different ram of course) and learning to undervolt both.
great vid thanks, i plan on jumping into a new build this gpu release and fell in love with this case from you and optimum's videos on it. very excited to build. ill definitely use your links to parts
Oh yeah, that would be insanely expensive, but there's other materials or composites I may try in the future to see if I can get them to be more rigid.
I did the same build but with an AIO. The CPU temp was fine but the 4090 FE temp crossed 85C. I gave up and moved to a larger case AP201. GPU temp dropped to 60C on 100% load. I loved the T1 but best with 4080 and below GPUs
Hey, mind sharing the custom cable lengths your using from DreambigbyRayMOD? or would he be already familiar with formd t1 lengths for sf750 -> something like asus am5 itx motherboards?
I recommend watching this video from L91: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xiYoYa7c_uU.htmlsi=ZdXkAzljG1sJX7j6 The tl;dr is that the AXP90-x47 Full Copper is superior. The Black Ridge has some advantages, with the underside fan mounting style you could have the case in 3.25 slots and not worry about fan turbulence. But from my understanding the Black Ridge also has fitment issues with certain motherboards, including the ASUS B650E-I shown in the video.
Hey amazing video, I have a E-White T1 and 4080 Super FE waiting to be built and the travel kit will be the perfect addition. I love the hex screws that you have replaced the originals with, so much more durable than philips heads do you know where you can get some? They look like good quality stainless steel ones.
Thanks! I bought them a long time ago from Aliexpress for my T1 v1.1, nothing fancy but they have served me well and I reused them a bunch of times, the philips head ones that came with the case are already pretty gnarly.
I have a very similar setup but is it just me or does the 4080 FE blower fan make a recognisable noise? Honestly I don't find it that silent like many people say. I love the looks of the FE but that's a reason I thought about trying the Asus ProArt 4080 for more silence...
I wanted to do a build in the C4 but by the time I decided to buy one it was gone (for good). We will see what the future brings... but no promises on the A4 H2O.
what are your thoughts on just watercooling the gpu and aircooling the cpu? or is there just not enough space for a small pump? that way the hottest tdp generating thing is exhausting at the top, and not heating up the ambiet temp of the case as much.
Hi I’m currently in progress of getting parts for this build, my gpu is 65mm thick (Asus tuf 4070ti) which is 4mm thicker than your 4090fe. Do think there would be enough clearance to still fit it in 3.00 config? Really like the fan duct idea so I don’t want to have to move to the 3.25 config.
I basically copied the entire setup so thank you EIGA! It was both painful and fun to build for sure. I’m curious whether adding foam spacer between the t30s and upper panel will lower the temps even further (like a 12cm version NA-FD1).
I don’t think that would be necessary, with the shroud the exhaust part is pretty well isolated from the rest of the build, I doubt there’s any hot air being recirculated.
hi Eiga, thank you so much for your video, your work is amazing. I was wondering if you can help me with a question of the anti sag bracket. I am hoping to print this myself using a local 3d printing service but I am not very technical. When you say I need 1x M3x5x4 threaded brass insert from the aliexpress link, can you please let me know what x5x4 mean? Does it mean OD 5MM size and 4MM length?
I ordered a not to expensive 3d printer for the side panels I hope it works the Bambu I have can not print that big of a are for the side pannels or the fan shroud
Thanks! No need really, but the price difference between the newly launched 750 and 1000 SFX power supplies from Corsair is small enough that just getting the higher rating seems worth it, you get slightly beefed up internals and a higher threshold for passive operation. Efficiency at very low loads could be a factor, but from the testing I’ve seen they are practically identical.
I do not have a CNC yet thinking of trying to fine one that can cut metal that is not to expensive that would solve the issue of strength and bending on the pannels
Maybe a basic question but how do you clip the noctua fan to the thermalright CPU? The clips that come with the CPU are too short for the longer fan. What kinds of clips/connection can be used instead?
@EIGA, When you say CO tuned for your 7950X3D, do you mean that you only put a negative offset on your curve, or did you also mean that you modified PPT/ EDC / TDC limits as well? Thanks!!
Hey I am a little curious if you tried specific intake points for the custom panels? For example only having open air areas at the cpu, psu and gpu? Or is that not recommended due to the overall cooling (mobo, ssds)
I don't think I will be getting back in the T1 custom loop game for the foreseeable future. I will say though, the upcoming Modultra 4090 FE block is something that I'd love to try.
Thanks! Best source for cable lengths is the SFFHub Discord server (link in description) and check the pins in the #formdt1 channel. Directly taken from there: 24 pin - 140-160mm EPS - 250-260mm (in front of the mobo) EPS - 300mm (routed behind mobo) 12vhpwr - 325-350mm PCIe 8 pin - 200-220mm
I am currently planning a new PC Build and I am undecided between the FormD T1 and the Ncase M1 Evo. Most important to me is the noise while gaming. I know i can fit a 280mm AIO into the M1 while the T1 only fits some 240mm but, my Question is. Is an AIO really needed for an 7800x3d? The GPU whould be an three Slot 4070ti Super
I noticed that you link to the Corsair CMK32GX5M2B6000C30 SKU (XMP only) instead of CMK32GX5M2B6000Z30 (EXPO). I don't know if that matters or not. For what it's worth, Gigabyte doesn't list either as verified compatible with the B650I AORUS Ultra. Have you run into any issues using the XMP profile with that memory?
The link opens correctly for me (CMK32GX5M2B6000Z30), I think Amazon adjusts the links based on region and it may mix things up. I actually have the 64GB kit but I think it's overkill. Absolutely no issues with them and I use tighter secondary timings, for which I recommend Buildzoid's video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dlYxmRcdLVw.htmlsi=mZr-iqHQkSHCezre
Hey, I just built my formd t1 just a couple of days ago and I'm still trying to figure out my FanControls and adjustments to make both the temps and noise decrease. Would you mind telling me more information you have done aside from the custom 3d printed parts? My build is almost a exact replica but with a 4080 Super FE. Thanks!
Congrats! I go into a bit more detail on how I set up FanControl in my older video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6WZs8s2RZVY.htmlsi=iZQ4audIgpalGwI-&t=643 You can use that as inspiration as the principles are the same. The trick is to find fan RPM ranges that offer a good balance between noise and thermals, and then make Graph curves that set the fan speeds based on that.
Hi, loved the video but I have a question as I am going to be building in this case with a 4080 super FE with the same components. Is the Foam required as part of the complete build and if so what benefit does including the foam give? Thanks!
Thanks! The foam duct offers a significant improvement in CPU thermals, so I see no reason to skip it, you can even find a 3D printable alternative: www.printables.com/model/742782-axp90-x47-cooler-duct-for-formd-t1-3-slot-mode-noc
Hey, awesome build video really helped me out. The stock riser apparently often has quality problems, its length is 18.5cm your linked cable is 23cm is there no problem with fitting the extra cm. And is the anti sack bracket for the 4090 recommended or am I fine without it ?
I haven't used my stock riser at all so far, not because I don't think it's good, just that for the builds I wanted to do the Linkup was better. The extra length is not an issue, but thickness is a bit of a downside (stock one is thinner). Anti-sag bracket or travel kit is definitely optional, but I recommend it for OCD 👀.
@@EIGAtech Alright ty for the fast response, just a bit insecure because this will be my first pc build ever. I have another question, do you think it would be a problem to use the back ssd slot on the motherboard temperature wise. Dunno if I want to split the storage in 2x2tb or 1x4tb.
Oh wow, didn't know about this one. The dimensions almost certainly do not match, but a travel kit variant may be worth doing depending on the popularity of this card.
I bought a 4090 FE and have a Corsair SF750 PSU. Some people (and NVIDIA) say 850W is needed, but I've seen others using the 750W. What's your experience with power delivery using the 4090 and 750W PSU during intensive tasks or gaming? Is there anything that should be done or avoided to ensure a stable system?
The SF750 is a legendary PSU that can handle a 4090FE with no issues. Corsair has released its new SFX lineup this month, and I would still recommend either the SF750 (2024) or the SF1000 if price is no concern. The SF850 is also an option but it's weirdly priced IMO. All of these PSUs can handle a 4090.
I have been running my T1 with one panel off as I have an IS-55 cooler, I was thinking about getting a bulge pressed into the side panel but I'm going to replace with the smaller cooler. The links though take you to wrong products both the cooler and CPU fan links are bad. When the travel kits comes back in stock i will buy it for sure. I have placed a fan above the CPU to try and help with SSD temps (Gen 5) and i turned the system over also to help. What size fan would fit below the NVME ??
Phanteks T30's all seem to be out of stock in my area. Could you recommend a suitable alternative for this case please? Also, what's the impact of removing the fan grill from the Corsair PSU? The best SFX PSU I can source doesn't have a removable fan grill. Thanks!
Hi! There is no reason to remove the PSU fan grill, it's something I did for a previous build. As for T30s alternatives, the Noctua NF-A12x25 is the way to go.
how is the sound levels compared to an AiO. Im using an Atmos now and my T1 is on my desk. If the performance is better with air and sound levels are similar, then Im going to switch and not worry about leaking.
My old CPU only custom loop with pneumatic tubing is very close to an AiO in terms of performance and noise levels, so you can use that as a comparison point. That said, I would not worry about leaking with an AiO.
If you want to avoid deformation then PETG or ABS/ASA but given their small size and the fact that the duct will be held in place by the panel once mounted, I'm sure PLA can work as well, even if it deforms slightly.
It does, you need to replace one of the standoffs with a female to female one and you also need a longer screw to thread through the riser bar into the new standoff.
I would suggest finding someone local to keep costs down, especially if you have a different motherboard or taller RAM that are currently untested with the shroud.
do you think it's possible to shorten the lenght of the Linkup Gen4 Riser or 23cm was the best? Thx for your video, planning to build one very soon, my itx mobo is the aorus so im planning to change the PCIe riser right away
I'd first check if the stock riser is fine, if not, then the 23cm Linkup is the way to go or the Loque Cobalt Gen4+ riser which is outstanding: louqe.com/products/cobalt-rc260-twinax-gen4-pci-e-4-0-riser-cable
@@EIGAtech thx you so much really! How do I see that I'm affected beyond light annoyance level? I'm kind of use to these things not working properly for me :D
I've added it as a recommended part due to availability and price/performance. The ProArt 4080 Super is the card I would go for today if I didn't already have a 4090 FE.
They are a significant improvement, but I don't have any numbers on hand. Considering the total cost of the build it is a no brainer getting them or a similar 3D printed duct like this one: www.printables.com/model/742782-axp90-x47-cooler-duct-for-formd-t1-3-slot-mode-noc
Just a mild negative Curve Optimizer tuning (per core) but it really wouldn't perform any different even stock. I don't apply any other limits other than the default PBO settings.
@@EIGAtech thx very much. so curve optimizer os the only sstting in bios. so set to for example -20 or -30 just try? only this setting without any undervolting or things like this? some.people say something about ppt tdc edc so this is meant by PBO SETTINGS? because i want to run same as you on 50% cpu fan speed. any temperature limits? or just let the cpu slow itself down if stock temp limit reached? thx very much
@@shusui9665 I don't find it necessary to touch any of the limits. The 7950X3D can usually only do between 0 and -15 on a per core basis (not global) and requires a LOT of stability testing. If you are new I'd just get a 7800x3D, set it to -30 and test for stability in day to day tasks, and then just call it a day! There's no point to the 7950X3D unless you like to tinker around.
Those are custom 4pin extension cables from DreambigbyRay on Etsy. Entirely optional as the Noctua and Phanteks fans come with their own (sleeved) extension cables.
