Cool video. The thing about the Dimension D is that it's so subtle. If you play it after playing a 1210 or a Tri is like nothing is happening. I'm a bit of a chorus freak/collector. I have the Fulltone Terc, a 1210 and the Klark BBD-320. Use them for different things. Also in pedals have an old Dimension C and the Waza version, The Inspire, Free the Tone Tri-Avatar, Shiva Lil'Wave and a few others. FYI the Roland RPS-550, the SDX-330 and the SE-70 do Dimension D presets. Thanks for the video.
My friend had a Dimension -D in a pink pedal version back in the 80's. Adjustable rate & width, effect level, 4 knobs all together. Used it on violin. Sounded absolutely amazing !
The Dimension D just sounds... right. Especially when you were playing those single note clean lines ala' Luke and Paul Jackson. The difference is really noticeable with headphones.
@@lukather1 Yep in his 88 rig, he used a cs-5 and a modulation pro during his career. I'd bet there are tracks of him out there using a Dimension D. It's just too common a product especially in that 1979-1982 range. Landau sure did and those rigs were much earlier.
Greetings from Down Under Michael. Great video as always! Nothing sounds as good and lush and wide in my opinion, as the rack unit. Really juicy lol. I've actually wanted one in my home studio for years, after I saw what Chris Lord Alge does with his. And I think your video just sealed the deal lol. And btw.. lovely to hear a bit of Giant slipped in there fella! Love your work. (You probably haven't seen it.. but I'm the dude down in Australia who played the VH 1 album in track order a few years back). Hope all is well with you sir. S 🤘
Killer track and tone, mang. I’ve been using an 80s dimension D on my board and it’s gloriously swirly and warm. That 1210 is pretty tough to beat but I like the subtlety, width and response of the OG dimension the most.
Thanks bud! I think I agree. The D is the widest, but/and the most subtle. I don’t like hearing flange swirling around. I just want the wide shimmer with no beyowowowow sound
Great video and superb chorus. It was used among others by Kate Bush. I would like to see a shootout between the Dimension D, Dyno my Piano tri-chorus and the TC 2290.
I love my Dimension C DC-2W pedal and that thick sound it makes. My personal setting for the pedal is having both 3 and 4 turned on. I guess that's "maxed out"? On my pedal board the sequence of effects is that I'm feeding my Dimension C pedal with a Boss Super Chorus CH-1...with the CH-1 having a slow but wide sweep. Combine those two pedals with those settings and my goodness...the 1980s await.
I'd say the Dimension C is very, very close to my ears. At least on this video. Perhaps the D is a bit wider? The Overloud is pretty damn good too! Quite a large box to do that one (or 4) sounds, but it's a classic, no doubt about it. And as always, killer playing Michael!
I think I’ve read somewhere Steve Stevens used a Rockman stereo chorus along with a Rockman Sustainor for Flesh For Fantasy. Btw very cool video as usual ! Cheers.
Nice review as always and so simple to use! Thank you for sharing the demo! It’s unfortunate that you are posting in that new gear forum for the ‘Ask Me Anything’., I joined a few days ago then left as it seems to be made up of mostly TGP banned rejects 😂.
I love the Dimension D and I think it is so much better than any other chorus because there's no pitchiness. The reason is because it's basically two mono choruses exactly 180 degrees out of phase and panned hard left and hard right. So it gives you space and motion without making you sound annoyingly out of tune all the time.
Omg. That’s more overtime on the cards now 😂 I need a studio elite in my life. I don’t think you can beat the Eventide setup. Tri plus de tune. Dammm you nailed the Huff tone for a moment there maestro. Thoroughly enjoyed this episode Michael. Yes I will join your forum for sure. Good health sir and I think you should do studio invites for Huff Stevens Luke Landau etc. What a show that would be
All you need is the Boss Waza DC-2W, combined with the Eventide Micropitch or Red Seven / Shiva "Little Wave" - I am a Chorus fanatic. This sounded great though. I love that 80's rack chorus sound. Enjoyed it. oNe LovE from NYC
I have both the micropitch pedal and the boss dimension C. Although I love the late 80's Van Halen micropitched tone, I prefer the Dimension C as it has more character. Love the song btw
I bought a Keeley 30ms for this sound before Boss released the Waza Dimension C. It has a dimension setting that I really like. Like other Keeley pedals it has internal dip switches to change the operation of the pedal. I recently switched it to Double Tracking Pro Mode which lets you control the tuning of the two separate voicings independently. Still need to try the Waza DC-2 someday but I love the Keeley pedal.
Thanks for this history lesson. I've been playing with a Waza DC-2w, mainly because it easily nails the Nile Rogers tone. Didn't know about the TC 1210 which sounds great, and have been tempted to buy the Eventide MicroPitch. This video helped me understand what I wanted. IMHO, I don't like heavy reverb in this effect
The most surprised about this I was when the lights just kept staying on and it looked like you didn't have the power cable attached. At best when I see them light up in some unit, the caps empty in a flash. I couldn't tell the waza and original apart. The MD was "too lush" if you can blame a chorus for that, but it was clearly noticeable in my opinion. But I recall this unit is liked because it's subtle. In the original I could perhaps tell apart just barely maybe 3 modes and just barely because I was tuned to differentiate them. I recall there was something wonky about the multiple buttons mode as well, like as long as there was more than one button pressed down, it was the same thing no matter which or how many. It's been possibly a year or more since I bought my last piece of guitar gear but you made me sort of desire the waza dimension.
They’re great. Probably my favorite as well. 1210 is the least modulate-y, and least chorus-y of the big chorus boxes. It’s a rich wide sparkle fat tone. My 1210 needs some work, but I can’t find anyone to look at it
I use another way to setup the stereo chorus : the Radial JX44 V2 has a stereo insert in front of the amps. Perfect with 2 heads, in case you don't use the preamp/poweramp combo.
They all sound great. I had a DD since the 80s and it is great. I think the move today is to use whatever combo of those affects you like but do it in parallel and dial it down a bit. That is, the 80s chorus/Micro pitch perfect is great, just needs to be mixed with a little more dry to sound modern and more clear
So micro pitch and chorus in parallel and then direct dry mix ? I’m on a wdw system but usually pitch into 1210 or tri ? Mixing dry witb combined pitch and chorus Which is right for 80s sound ?
Just get the Eventide micropitch delay pedal.. I can’t live without mine especially in a w/d/w setup combined with an OG MIJ Arion Stereo Chorus pedal. Killer tones.🤘🎸
I agree, the DM-500 let me down on the dimension settings, it’s very bright and thin, harsh even, but some of the other algorithms like the CE and Prime are amazing! The overtone with detune and the flanger work really well too. Can you tell us what your dual chorus setting was on that MD500? Because that was one of the best sounds!
Where does the signal go after the chorus unit? Straight to your converters? Or are you using a mic on a cab? Do you come out of your attenuator at line level (active load) ?
Nice playing and sounds. Would like a comparison to the Keeley 30 ms double tracker I see that you don't have a UA OX. Is that out of favor? Arturia also has a Dimension D plugin - Chorus Dimension-D
MXR micro chorus is one seriously underrated pedal. I'd like to hear you test that one, too. It adds volume when engaged, which is a bummer, since it sounds especially good in front of an amp slightly breaking up.
Michael, how does the Waza pedal compare to the Eventide H9 H3000 with the setting at +9/-9 ? I am wondering if it is redundant to buy the waza if I already have the H9.
Awesome tones, loving the Tylers! It was, a let down that all the buttons sounded the same, definitely not like that, on the Dim C or the Behringer CC300, don't laugh the Behringer sounds awesome.
The sound of the Dimension D circuit in bypass, seems to be part of the overall sound. Have you tried feeding your other emulators through the Dimension D in bypass (or that setting through the emulators), just to get that eq profile over their sounds?
today I found out I never need a tc1210. I had always seen this lauded as the end-all-be-all of spatial expanders, but the DC-2/Dim D just straight up sound better.
Why not get TC's SCF+ Gold for your subtle analog pitch chorus pleasure? I thought the Dimension and the Waza held up great; DD500 lost focus, got mushy-the opposite of what you'd expect from a digital box, or maybe they just overshot the mark of sounding "analog"?
Epic shootout! I definitely concur with ditching the 500 in favor of the newish MicroPitch Delay. The Overloud sounded just about dead on. Makes me regret buying the KT 3rd Dimension unit, as it's a bit lacking by comparison.
For me, it was the detune setting on the md500 for a long time. Now that I’m using my fractal for time based effects I use that. The tc electronic brainwaves might be cool too but I’ve never tried it
The TC 1210 had the biggest and most 80’s sound for me. Dimension D was a bit of a let down in terms of all 4 buttons sounded the same?! For a simple to use and great sounding pedal chorus, I have the Boss Waza CE-2, which sounds great in either that mode or the CE-1 mode. Well worth checking out.
I have one, it's pretty rad. It also has a swirl setting that gets kind of flanger-y sounding. But even without that, it sounds like Hagar era Van Halen tones to me.
Hi RJ, both were on loan from my friend Flint. He has the dopest LA guitars collection. I’ve got a Tyler in build process, and was feeling them out for how to spec mine.
The AMA question I want to know is about fuzz, but I can't be effed signing up for a forum just yet sorry. I want to know how much Jimmy Page had his fuzz switched on. I suspect he used it a lot kind of like Eric Johnson does. Fuzz on a lot of the time and using the guitar volume to get the nice, rich cleaner tones. Most 'how to get Page tone' advice says to just use a crunchy Plexi tone and does not really mention the fuzz. The film It Might Get Loud made me question that though. He kicked the fuzz on and there was that sound. It was not super thick and sludgy like fuzz can get. I suppose I just have to choose a MKII and try it (same gear rarely equates to same tone for me though). P.S. I recently found out Jimmy Page is my cousin in law. I have never actually met my cousin overseas who married his cousin though, so I can not cheekily leverage the family connection to AMA Jimmy himself. Would be cool if I could though. Turn up at his place and say "hey cuz, can I play your Les Paul?" and then ask a million guitar and music questions and try to get him to teach me everything he knows (she contacted me when my Dad recently passed. I said "cool surname" and she said she married Jimmy's cousin and he is in her husband's family photo albums etc).
Always thought the Dimension D was a light chorus, but here I can't hear any chorus at all; something wrong with this unit maybe? Anyway, the Md500 with pitch shifting was the best tone overall: lush and complex texture...the 1210 in comparison is too weird and undefined.
