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The Ultimate Showdown: Local vs. Worldwide Flood Theories 

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7 месяцев назад
You kicked a nasty beehive with this video, but I think you did a fantastic job with the info. Looking forward to more content.
@breweryministries
@breweryministries 7 месяцев назад
Thank you I really appreciate that!
@davidingels1256
@davidingels1256 7 месяцев назад
Love your channel but there are some serious problems with the local flood theory. 1. Why would God send Noah and the animals on the ark to “save” them if there would clearly be other people and animals outside the flood area? 2. The mountains today around the world have sea creature fossils on them? 3. There is great evidence of mountains being formed after the flood as well as catastrophic worldwide formation evidence of things like the Grand Canyon and huge dinosaur graveyards etc. 4. If the flood was local then every time there is a rainbow, it’s a lie because God promised, yet local floods are still happening! No, a world wide flood fits the evidence and the Bible much better.
@michaelmeyer7455
@michaelmeyer7455 7 месяцев назад
Thank you, you made my point. Now I don’t have to really explain anything about the flood! Good job my man. You all have done really good job explaining to the ones that take a little longer to understand!
@breweryministries
@breweryministries 7 месяцев назад
Thank you! That is good food for thought. The fossils on mountaintops is something I'm curious about. I still need to dive into the evidence for that, just haven't gotten around to it yet. I think there could be some possible solutions to some of the other questions. I'll take some guesses here for fun but I'm only speculating. Maybe Mesopotamia had become corrupt and God knew that if it weren't contained, they would be a threat to people outside of the flood zone. Saving Noah would then represent saving the people and culture of that area. It could still be the largest flood of all time and the only one sent by God to destroy mankind, others could simply be the forces of nature playing out. The fossils are certainly something to investigate more.
@umbrashadowgaming4974
@umbrashadowgaming4974 2 месяца назад
@@breweryministries It goes beyond that if the flood was a local event, and the rainbow represented God promise to never flood the earth again, and we still have local floods. That would mean God is a liar, and if God is a liar he is flawed. Christianity crumbles and we should all just live it up.
@paulwillis9380
@paulwillis9380 6 месяцев назад
All the land mass was joined together before the flood the Pangea effect look that up online that is how the water covered all land
@jakerich7779
@jakerich7779 2 месяца назад
Pangea was millions of years ago. The flood thousands of years.
@HereTemporarily
@HereTemporarily 4 месяца назад
Interesting thoughts, but ultimately incomplete. Just take a look at 2 Pet 2:5, and then 2 Pet 3:5-7. The context there, as referring to the flood, is global. The WORLD is set to be destroyed by fire, not “a fire”. Similarly the flood it refers to cannot be “a” flood because that would void what Peter is saying about the whole world being destroyed a second time. Plus, if it was a local flood, why go thru 120 years of building an ark in the first place? That’s plenty of time to simply move to where the flood is not going to be. And if God can make the animals come to the ark to save them from a global flood, he could just as easily have made them leave the region before a local flood, but he didn’t; he saved them in the ark because there would be nowhere for them to be safe. And like others have pointed already, fossils found throughout the world (not merely in the Mesopotamia area) point to all kinds of creatures and plants (including trees) fossilized in their fully-formed state. A local flood would not have caused that all over the world.
@markoaks8694
@markoaks8694 6 месяцев назад
Context, context, context. Context determines meaning. The context of Genesis seven indicates the entire globe.
@ProfessorJM1
@ProfessorJM1 6 месяцев назад
1) I believe every word Jesus said...I mean, HE IS THE WORD. 2) When using superlatives as, "all" "whole" "highest" even the word "no", there's an strong, consistent, purposeful usage to communicate the most extreme degree...I think these words "in conjugation" with the noun/object are meant to convey just that (I understand there's a large disparity between the languages' sentence structures). 3) The physical evidence is all over the world...and there are clams, seashells (all kinds of phylum Mollusca) on the top of Mount Everest. God Bless You All In Jesus Name.
@RatdogDRB
@RatdogDRB 6 месяцев назад
I lean towards the flood being global. Secular science can report of their findings of shells/fossils at varied elevations, lines of demarcation for sediments, some petrifying. Secular science which is true/honest confirms what the scriptures tell us. If it was more local in nature, I'll wait for Jesus to answer that question when I can be with Him. I think it's important to keep your heart and mind open to new discoveries, but to measure them up to what the Bible states.
@breweryministries
@breweryministries 6 месяцев назад
I agree. Those are good thoughts. I'm very curious as well read about the fossil evidence. It's on my list of things to read up on soon. What I've seen mentioned here is intriguing
@douglasjimenez2839
@douglasjimenez2839 7 месяцев назад
The geographical/scientific evidence of a worldwide flood about 4400 years ago is overwhelming. It is not part of our school or university curriculum but it is overwhelming. While I continue to study the bible, for now, I'll continue to teach a worldwide flood. I invite you to continue doing research.
@MrRono19
@MrRono19 7 месяцев назад
You know a video is trying to push an agenda when: A. It only covers a few of the verses on the topic B. Refers to ONE specific scholars interpretation. Hills vs Mountains is a irrelevant point as preflood they didn’t have mountains. So anything covering the hills would be enough to cover the world. The whole bit about the dove (which ironically the imagine shown had a seagull) and the waters, you don’t take tides into account. Water can raise and fall. Also check the New Testament
@philosophyforum4668
@philosophyforum4668 4 месяца назад
If you don't think the Scripture is clear on he extent of the flood, you might be assisted just by doing a little thinking and giving God some credit. Noah, and whoever helped him, labored building the ark for hundreds of years. When it was ready, God sent the animals, that he wanted to save, to the ark. If the flood was going to be a local, why didn't God just tell Noah to take a month or so and move? And why save a limited number of animals when the rest of the world would still have had most of the animals?
@Fuad-Elijah
@Fuad-Elijah 3 месяца назад
It was local - in multiple locations- ( some may say local in multiple geographical places make the description of being global accurate too ) it was where the nephillem lived and corrupted the humans around them which was the reason for the flood Noah didn't take all animals of the earth with him because not all earth was affected by the flood but mostly the mestopotenian area and may be the levant. Noah took with him some of the animals he needed like sheep cows chickens and may be horses birds and camels.. they were needed as a food during the flood time also were needed as a food after the flood was ended .. yes not all sheeps and and such animals died everywhere but noah would have died from hunger if he was going to distant places where the flood didn't reach .. the same things can be said about horses and camels as a way of transport
@adrinilinjunky
@adrinilinjunky 7 месяцев назад
(Jubilees 5:25) “And the flood-gates began to pour down water from the heaven forty days and forty nights, and the fountains of the deep also sent up waters, until the (WHOLE WORLD) was full of water”
@breweryministries
@breweryministries 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for putting that verse on my radar. I'm looking at it in Hebrew on Sefaria. It looks like that word is translated as "world" once in Ecclesiastes, but it can also mean community, mankind, humanity and a few other things. The possible definition of "community" could still point to the possibility of a local flood, but there are global options too. Interesting for sure.
@adrinilinjunky
@adrinilinjunky 7 месяцев назад
@yministries You got to remember the angels children the Nephilim Giants roamed the "WHOLE EARTH" (GENISIS 6:4). This is the very reason God sent the flood in the first place. Bones of the Nephilim giants have been found in "EVERY CONTINENT OF THE WORLD"... The flood could not have been only local if God's whole plan was to rid the "WHOLE WORLD" of them...
@Jaco3688
@Jaco3688 7 месяцев назад
If it were a local flood, I think I would have used my 120 years to walk to a new region than painstakingly build a boat. SMH
@endlessnameless7004
@endlessnameless7004 7 месяцев назад
It's about the typological significance, not pragmatism.
@BenAtTheTube
@BenAtTheTube 4 месяца назад
Creatures on Land, excludes those that live in the water and survived the flood without Noah's help.
@leftofcenter4
@leftofcenter4 Месяц назад
Wild interesting stuff, requires further investigation.
@frankcraig3734
@frankcraig3734 2 месяца назад
Does not mater God is God and all that is what is around you. lets not pick on words.
@larry7781
@larry7781 6 месяцев назад
The flood was worldwide anyone saying otherwise is saying that God didn't know what he was doing
@breweryministries
@breweryministries 6 месяцев назад
Unfortunately that is a common misconception about local flood theorists, but I know quite a few local flood theorists who would not say that.
@endlessnameless7004
@endlessnameless7004 7 месяцев назад
Great video! Now consider the implications this has for the discipleship of the nations. The gospel went out for 40 years before Jerusalem was destroyed. It rained 40 days and nights during the flood, and the Israelites roamed in the desert for 40 years. All three narratives tie to a new creation event; new earth, new nation, New Covenant. Consider what Paul wrote in Romans 10:18. That's not the only time he wrote as if the discipleship was coming to a close within his generation. [Rom 10:18 NASB95] 18 But I say, surely they have never heard, have they? Indeed they have; "THEIR VOICE HAS GONE OUT INTO ALL THE EARTH, AND THEIR WORDS TO THE ENDS OF THE WORLD."
@breweryministries
@breweryministries 7 месяцев назад
Thank you! Those are very interesting parallels with the number 40! There's almost certainly a connection there.
@CraigHaden-ux9ei
@CraigHaden-ux9ei 7 месяцев назад
I found the case for the local flood more compelling! There was information in the video I never knew about. I may have to watch it again. May YHVH bless your ministry through his son Yeshua. Thank you so much!
@breweryministries
@breweryministries 7 месяцев назад
Thank you! Same here, I was not aware of how much info there was to support the local flood view until I researched for this video. So it was new to me too! Fun to research
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