THE UNDERRATED ALICE 

Her popularity had died out ever since her nerf or at least that's what Iremember. Maybe she may stand out much but I believe she can do much better once this mage META arrives. Especially with the new adjustment in mid lane where there's 4 minions now. She could stack faster and reach max potential faster right? Maybe a slight buff for her but may not become popular again that easily though.

Well, her damage is too low and she's not that tanky either. They should buff her Passive from 10 hp to 20 hp per orb and raise her damage scaling on her skills. (150% on first skill, make her second skill 1.2 secomd stun and make her damage on second skill 100% and make her damage on ult 60% and her healing to 30%.) Her mana consumption is not the problem since you can manage that easily. Such a shame she's one of the strongest characters on ML lore.

The answer is easy, she's not a mid laner, she's a DPS not a burst, even in DPS every mage outclasses her in range, damage. Enemies can easily escape her damage skills with every new hero having some sort of CC or escape So she goes to exp lane, even then she's outclassed by all the god damn tanky fighters and tank laners who can kill her She's not a bad hero, other heroes just do better, that's what Meta has become sadly Look at Julian, CC, escape, regen, poke, everything Alice can but just way better

Honestly, Alice really shines in a Teamfight, with her *ALLIES*. Since she can't one combo to death, she's best at dealing damage by time against enemy heroes

I’ve been playing Alice these days, she’s amazing with winter truncheon and petrify with ult. In addition, using execute is also a good addition because it can help finish enemies!

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Tactics using Alice: Use your 1st skill often to give your team vision of the enemy team, to poke and to avoid being ganked. Always be on the lookout to start teamfights and communicate with your team on when you intend to go in with your blink. When laning, you can cast you 1st skill again as soon as it hits all three minions to use the skill again faster since the cooldown will begin sooner if you reactivate it sooner. Use 1st skill to last hit minions. On the laning phase, Alice is weak against most matchups, and so is prone to being delayed. Last hitting minions with your 1st skill allows you to get the experience and gold granted by the minions. Do not be too greedy to pick up blood orbs. Try to kite melee heroes with your 2nd skill. You can also use this in combination with your 1st skill to chase down enemies or to run away. Take note of how much Mana you have at all times and how quickly it drains when you use your ultimate. Try to toggle your ultimate off when there is less than 3 or 2 minions in range. Use your early game damage and and mobility to your advantage. Try to play with heroes that can keep up with her mobility and her unpredictable initiations like Hayabusa, Ling or heroes that can make it easier for her to follow up with her AoE damage like Khufra, Atlas or Tigreal Try to position yourself near as many enemies as possible in teamfights. She becomes more tanky the more enemies there are around her and is susceptible to being kited if crowd controlled. Make sure you always have at least enough Mana to cast your 1st skill. When your Mana is low and you need to escape, it is more worth it to blink out than to try and regen. You can use your ultimate to clear stacked minion waves very fast and efficiently, so make use of this in combination with your mobility to roam around the map quickly and clear minion waves in multiple lanes. Try to practice aiming your 1st skill as this is a fundamental part of her kit. Practice aiming it over different walls around the map to greatly increase your overall mobility. Do not dive recklessly. Alice is a Mage/Tank but her DPS /regen cannot save her from being kited under the enemy turret or being focused on by the enemy team if your tank does not follow you. Communion and caution is key. When running away, try to use your 2nd skill before blinking for a better chance of survival. This also gives you a longer time to reposition after the blink and plan for your next course of action. Do not be afraid to build tank items on her like Antique Cuirass, Dominance Ice or Cursed Helmet on her if you feel like you need them to survive someone on the enemy team or if it's favorable for you to build them. Think of Alice as a Mage/Tank and not exclusively as a Mage. Immortality can restore your Mana to full so try to make use of that in clutch moments.

Alice have the best Mobility skill for me, ngl.

Problem is. Her life stealing ability which I believe should be her unique skill/passive was given to other heroes. Moonton has this habit of releasing new heroes with insane amount of lifesteal.

Her nerf and the recent buffs on defense items might be the contributing factor on her low usage rate. She's quite handy on team fights though, especially if partnered with a perfect tank set.

She's underrated because she either ults to die, or dies while trying to kill someone, but She doesn't do any damage resulting in her hilarious demise. It's HIGHLY depressing that one of the games main Antagonists is so pitiful.

She is a powerful villain in almost other stories of other heroes but weak when comes to the game

I think it would be nice if her passive Orb also give her 10 Mana per stack. That would make her a better hero at late game by a lot.

Tips when playing alice: 1.try to engage the enemy when theres minions nearby, she rlly benefits from minions(giving her hp and mana) 2. alice is rlly fast at clearing minion waves, try to gather as much passive stacks as possible cuz it will rlly benefit on the late game 3.when your team is lacking defense u can build alice as half tank, combined with his passive and ultimate, alice is just immortal(until u run out of mana) 4.she is very good at starting a clash with her aoe skills so try to wait for an opportunity to dive the enemy team when they're close together 5.lastly her 1st skill is rlly good both in escaping and chasing so try to use it on hunting them down or running away from them i hope this helps alice users out there:)

She's good for team fights and can directly go to the enemy behind but she's weak in lane especially in the early game. Now that dyroth, esme and thamuz are top exp laners, she's having a hard time collecting her passive

What if Alice's ULT gets the same treatment they did for Balmond? Increase the damage dealt the longer an enemy stays in her ULT duration. I mean, it is her Ultimate as compared to a Balmond with a Bloodlust Axe whirling around with a basic skill. Stat buffs on her passive could also help her get back into the meta. Considering we're seeing a Mage-centric meta next season, this might give her the push to compete again.

I like how Elgin always say "stay safe" at the end of every video he make, since i start watch his video at 2020

She's Very Underrated for Real.

Reason why she’s not seen alot in ranked is because she’s been way too busy messing with other heroes lore

I remember it when Alice was a gold laner. She was so popular back then, even Blacklist Oheb always use her as a gold lane.

Alice was one of the ban list heros few seasons back and i was under 100 global and a supreme alice player but she left far behind as other heros got continuous buff. She needs a little adjust to get back into the front line. So i wish moonton to do something so that my money on alice can be put in some use.

Imagine purchasing 3 to 4 items to become sustainable yet be countered by only one item 🙄 That's the downside of Alice.

The only problem is her damage output and the fast animation of 1st skill. And at the same time, the range

I think this is the perfect skill udjustments on Alice that will put her on the meta Skill 1 damage is increase by 10 points in the late game but lower damage in Early Skill:2 udjustments will be 1.2 stun but cd increase by 1 second Skill 3 will be Much higher heal on her ultimate base on her passive stacks have 20% damage reduction while in ultimate form Passive: much higher movement speed when reaching 50 stacks

Now that you revealed how she is underrated, people will start using again.

(1) It's tank meta. She loves to hug enemies so she'll most likely soak all of their CCs for a really long time, and her build doesn't offer her that strength. (2) Radiant Armor was made. Add it with DomIce and she's pretty wacked. (3) Literally a high stack-scaling hero, but towards tankiness. Above average players will rather pick Cecilion more than her. (4) Because of the above, she dwells between dmg dealer and sustain but doesn't do well at both currently. If you're the team's dmg dealer, you don't want a frontliner who just tickles enemy tanks w/counter items, doesn't burst the backline quickly, and can't peel for you properly.

I don't think that she's weak ,it is because she is just too hard when you're choosing equipment. If you go damage ,she will be too squishy. If you go defensive, she will be lacking at damage. And plus ,due that many heroes has insane burst and at least 2 to 3 heroes are always have a anti heal item to stop her.

A good tweak to her would be giving her skill dmg also scale with Max HP that way you are rewarded with collecting the blood orbs and can mix in there some tank items making her more versatile. Her passive instead of giving 10% cd red which is not that useful should increase the HP per blood orb from 10 -> 20 in his first evolution.

as an alice senior shes actually just slightly balance. Just a little bit buff on late game and make her stack through creeps so I can use her as a jungler because shes very strong as jungler specially unlimited ult at lvl4 lol.

Its also better to cast ultimate after using skill 1 to have no delay.

i believe the reason for Alice being underpicked is the tank meta which means a constant use of radiant armor and dominance ice killing her damage and sustainability and she is not able to have a good build flexibility to be able to counter those itens most Alice builds are stone locked in the same itens

She just got a minor buff from latest update in original server…her ult mana from 50 - 90 to 40 - 80

Using damage items on her is really effective. She's strong most of the time especially on late game, the problem is that she consumes a lot of mana and her regen isn't really high. She's classed as Charge/Regen but the regen is really weak compared to Silvanna. She's the Queen of the Abyss but Dyrroth and Thamuz are stronger than her 🙄 she needs to be buffed.

Alice is really a late game hero, since her passive takes very long stack up like Aldous

For me she's harder than before probably because of radiant armor and dominance ice

The funny thing is that Elgin take samples only from 1 video and for the record, that rank game is on an advanced server 👏

I really thought her skin would be in the next first purchase 😭 I was really looking forward to it.

8:26 Nice timing on using Winter Truncheon

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I suddenly miss Oheb’s insane Alice gameplays during the MPL.

Alice is a pretty good pick until radiance armor was added. Radiant + anti heal would literally counter her easily in late game.

elgin, before you use your skill 1 activate your ult first. the common combo i use for alice is s1-ult-s1-s2

I just missed the old Alice. Alice was my main hero that I always used before this until moonton revamped her, the damage become so low compare to last time.

Can you do a video on Kimmy? I'm really interested to know your thoughts on her new adjustment

the combo of her skills urks me so much lmao

well she's pretty balance.. in my opinion.. and she would make a great core/mage/tank.. if you want to carry.. I'll try it later.. Hope you try it too elgin!!

I mean yeah I'd like a few changes with her but still if used properly Alice can really be a pain in the ass for the enemies

Alice should get orbs from jungle too. When other heroes get it why not her.

Im Alice main, and there's actually many ways to play Alice u can build her as a CC Totem like Hero(icequeen with truncheon),the tank Burner build(best build with lvl1 ult),a bursty build, and more. Alice is fun to play especially when there's no Bruiser fighter like thamuz,barats,and marksman like Melissa.

Wasn't she buffed recently, I think it was a mana consumption buff on her ult allowing her to use her ult around 30% longer in early game and 15% in late game compared to the previous version

1:22 Silvanna taking revange on Alice for kidnapping her brother 😂

Is it only me who's amazed on Elgin's Alice gameplay? He played it so well!

Great gameplay Alice is overlooked and has much potential for a team fighter. Just a tip, try ulting before you blink in with your first skill that way your already set before you go in.

Alice, Hylos and Carmila together with Chang'e was massively affected when they introduce the radiant armor and baxia

Elgin not using ult before entering using 1st skill??? HERESY!!!!

I've actually kept trying her normal build/mage and she is kinda hard to use with it since she can easily die after entering the crowd of enemies because she can also be squishy with the mage build, So when I experimented her Semi tank build that I made it made her very hard to kill using that build I made made me realize that my only goal is to sustain and support for my teammates, But the problem is if I don't have good teammates or at least decent, I would be having a hard time especially when it reaches really late.

Personally, it's not clear on what build you should use on Alice. If you use a magic damage build on her, she's just gonna die right after you use winter truncheon. If you use a tanky build on her, she's not gonna deal any damage. If you use a semi-tank build, you will have a hero that has mediocre dps and defense/sustainability. or maybe my gameplay style with her is not the best lol

Maybe they should make it so that the longer her ult stays the higher the lifesteal or damage gets like a stacking effect

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Seeing Odette being one of the least picked heroes in higher ranks really says a lot about how her revamp was pretty much just a surface level overhaul. And yeah, I'm still salty about it.

The funny thing is that clown Elgin only takes samples based on 1 video and for the record, the game is that rank game on an advanced server 👏

Bro i remember when Granger was meta, I would play 5 man rank and have my teammate play alice Because Granger cant beat an alice once they’re both at level 15 and full build it’s scary as hell she can wipe ur team if she gets a set

i started using alice last days and i am really impressed how tanky and strong she actually is and after mid lane minion adjustments she would be very strong on mid lane because of numbers of minions

at 50 stacks, immune to anti-heal effect. my life as alice main couldn't be better than this. ☕

I'm an Alice user even she's not revamp yet I already like her skill set specially her first skill, her first skill is one of the trickiest blink skill on MLBB. Maybe one of the reason why she's not popular is her skill set where you need to close to the enemy first before you can damage a lot to the enemy, maybe moonton need to increase the range of her ult that's all and also lower it's mana consumption specially during early game. That's all overall Alice is a pretty good hero, I still remember my gameplays with when she's not revamp yet

Alice is a bit difficult to use. As a mage user, I use Alice a little more often recently as i get a decent win rate from her. She's squishy in early game but is very good at late game, especially when the jungler is generous enough to give the purple buff (junglers that don't really need the purple buff like Balmond), I can get very aggressive..

The old Alice is really good. The one doesn't have the unli ulti. Hope they will bring her back.

She's not META anymore because it is generally hard to play her in both gold & the exp lane (basing from the META back in MPL S7 & S8) in today's META. ++ with what you said that her most recent adjustments were NERFS to her rather than BUFFS. EXP Lane Problem with Alice: Her damage, mana, and sustain is not bearable to at the first turtle take (or the entire early game) compared to other META Exp Laners right now (like Esme, Dyr, and Masha) Gold Lane Problem with Alice: Back in M3, we saw the shift of the Gold Lane META from mages (Alice, Lunox, and Harith) to what we have now: the marksman gold lane meta (Bea, Brody, and Wanwan). Alice, within those three mages, have the hardest time in even reaching Level 2 & Level 4 in the early game against those marksmens due to her lack of ranged attacks (said by multiple MPL PH gold laners back in January 2022).

Franco's godly hook at 8:25😂

As a Mage/Tank, players need the option to build her SEMI or FULL TANK BUILD. Alice needs hp regen bonus from extra hp percentage or something......

They should add an effect wherein alice's ult can stack bonus magic damage if the enemies remains inside her ultimate

Maybe A movement speed boost when she used her ultimate would be a good idea.

Used to be my fav hero to play when i started the game an year ago. now i only play meta heroes damn after watchign this i am missing her so much!

She use mana but can't regain mana, she's a item dependant which make her not so versatile.

4:36 very well said Alice

Trust me at higher rank with good support this hero is scary

I think the reason why Alice is not getting picked in M3 above is because of her: 1. Trash chasing capability 2. Power spike is at level 4 but if an enemy Yu Zhong delays you then you would be pretty much useless 3. Can't zone jungler or mages in objective takes unless you have winter truncheon unlike Yu Zhong, Esmeralda, and Masha where you can just go straight into the mage and jungler. 4. Shitty franco meta (Ye I know there is an enemy franco in the video but the enemy's team comp is bad tbh) 5. You are a walking soft pillow to marksmen since you can't really adjust your build like for example add blade armor or dominance or antique cus then your damage and sustainability will fall off unlike yu Zhong and Esme that can still build those items while having their core items still in the build like for yu Zhong the war axe and hunter strike then for esme the enchanted talisman.

If there were to be adjustments on Alice is: Make her 1st skill faster and Ult skill should be instantly set upon press

How about Argus?...plz make video about him

what did they do to alice for the past few years? she looked so much better at 0:14 as compared to 0:18

Makes her passive easier to stack. Whenever she gets an kill/assists, her passive will stacked by 20 points. Also add some 50% magic power increase when she reached 100 stacks, 50% less mana usage when she reached 150 stacks, and 50% damage reduction when she reached 200 stacks

I totally agree with the travel time of the first skill because when you want to ambush someone but it's little far when you cast you're first skill it's slow and they can flicker, dash or dodge it.

elgin if your using alice and if you have enchanted talisman and you kill the blue buff your mana doesnt drops

My though on alice adjustment is just to add stack when you kill hero or jungle creep, maybe 2 stack for a kill, that's enough to make her good again

I think its safe to blame the meta, Jungler bruisers like Akai, Balmond, And Aldous are a big pain to Alice, She can only tank too much until her squishy-ness catches up

Just give Carmilla's passive to Alice then pair her up with Estes the boom. But I think it's really the meta that made her less of a pick.

Faster healing interval from her ultimate and give her passive Physical def and magic def

That pharsa amazes me with her ult effects its fire

Her Epic skin also need a rework. It's a limited Epic skin but I don't get the feeling of playing an Epic skin. Her special is more better I guess.

One thing i find annoying about her, is stacking orbs. She can't really hold her ground let alone her role without reaching at least 40 orbs. And it take quite a while to stack that much

She's Very Underrated. And What I feel like she's not used that much Is because People don't know how Alice works >~

Old Alice was still so good I don't know why they revamp her

Elgin have you noticed the change in advance server the talent system went back to normal just to let you know

She needs magic def reduction in her ult, the more time enemies are in her ult the more damage they get.

I think it has something to do with her stacks...

I love when Alice just stands there in team fight using her ult and winter truncheon

She was great before the revamp. With only 1 or 2 def item and she's tanky yet still carry damage. Idk why people were complaining about her ult having a long cd. Ever heard of fleeting time?

Im a pro alice player and heres a tip, use ur ult before clicking the first skill again to teleport so u get more dmg :D

Releasing Radiant armor was already a pretty hard nerf for her.

Many things can stand out why shes not so popular however ive heard from others that her skills are to basic,not flashy and boring,sure theres other things needing attention to her kit but those are what ive heard